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May 29, 2017 at 7:24 am #151054BradleyParticipant
So the last three months I have been seeing this lady who I felt we were very close. She has been through a lot in terms of abuse, illness and has a 2 year old child to look after. We would spend at least 2-3 days together where I would take her out for meals and cook. She has always told me about her emotions, trust issues and even cried to me.
A month and a half ago she told me she was not sure if were suited as friends or romance. Even though she told me she cares about me and wanted me part of her life. I vowed to be friends for ever. This confused me as I had true feelings for her.
During this time I told her about my feelings. She would ignore them and not accept my feelings or listened to my point of view and was unsure if we were friends or something more. A week or two with no physical chemistry we actually shared a kiss.
A week after the kiss she was distant and explained we were just friends but found out a week later she was seeing a guy. I went to hers to try and patch things up after this and she over-reacted told me she was scared of me. So in the hurt I betrayed her said and done things I’ve shouldn’t.
The last week I have been feeling very guilty and tried to apologies she is kind of confused now what she wants. Blamed me for the further trust issues and even told me she ended it with the guy cos of me. We are still speaking as I am truly confused how I feel and she is acting very cold. I do have mild autism which makes her lack of understanding worse. I did make a pact with her to stay friends regardless
Any advice what I should do.
May 29, 2017 at 8:45 am #151092AnonymousGuestDear Bradley:
You wrote: “So in the hurt I betrayed her said and done things I’ve shouldn’t.”- so that I understand your situation better, I ask: what did you say and do at that time?
anita
May 29, 2017 at 10:26 am #151104BradleyParticipantThanks Anita
Well I told her she deserved the abuse she got in the past, said some other nasty stuff in front of her 2 year old like calling (she doesn’t want me near her son now) and as she threatened to call the police on me I tried grabbing her phone out her hands and apparently hurt her. Although from the pictures there did not look like there is anything there.
I am not proud of that but we are still speaking but just and I care about her. But it has affected me and my emotions. She told me that she cannot trust a guy again.
Regards,
Bradley
May 29, 2017 at 10:50 am #151114AnonymousGuestDear Bradley:
My advice: make sure you see her when her son is not present. You may have scared him and it is not good for him to see you again, not for a long time.
Control the expressions of your anger so that you don’t try to hurt her (or anyone) but purposefully saying things designed to create pain, like saying she deserved the abuse she experienced. Once you say things like that, you can not un-say them. You hurt her, but you also hurt yourself if your aim is to have a friendship (or more) with her.
Respect her assertions: if she doesn’t want to speak with you at any one time- don’t pressure her. If she doesn’t want to see you again, respect that.
Don’t make assumptions about what she feels or intends. Ask, don’t assume.
anita
May 29, 2017 at 11:37 am #151124BradleyParticipantAnita
Thanks! However the hurt has not stemmed from that one incident. She use to be such a kind, warm-hearted person. Then over night she decided to confuse me, manipulate me and refused to listen to my point of view and acted out on my insecurities. That also hurt and she has never apologized and been very critical of me. I have my own issues that have been through since childhood and has cut me.
Bradley
May 29, 2017 at 12:40 pm #151130SmileParticipantDear Bradley
You seem and sound like a guy with a strong conscience which is why you are feeling this way… it is a good attribute by the way.
I will advice you to try and apologize to her, send a mail, a letter or an sms. Just apologize and give her some space to cool off. Dont pressurize her, just give her some space.
May 29, 2017 at 1:10 pm #151138BradleyParticipantI think people have failed to see the point of how she has treated me.
May 29, 2017 at 1:25 pm #151140SusannahParticipantDear Bradley,
There is not much point in a relationship, if both parties “compete” about how much the other has hurt him or her. A relationship is supposed to be about love, not negativity.
May 30, 2017 at 5:01 am #151194InkyParticipantHi Bradley,
What struck me was that she said she was afraid of you.
What I would do is leave her alone, and do not initiate contact. Let her take the lead. If she contacts you on her own, wait a few days to respond. Then call her and take it from there. The distance and time is to get you two out of a reactive mode.
Good Luck!
Inky
May 30, 2017 at 7:18 am #151206AnonymousGuestDear Bradley:
You wrote: “over night she decided to confuse me, manipulate me and refused to listen to my point of view..” and in your last post, you wrote: “I think people have failed to see the point of how she has treated me.”
So I went back and carefully read all that you posted so far. This is my understanding of what possibly happened: from the beginning of your three months relationship she enjoyed your company, your attention, your involvement in her life. She was not interested in you as a boyfriend from early on, but she didn’t want to lose the benefits she enjoyed from your involvement in her life, so she didn’t tell you the truth. She told you that she was unsure whether the two of you were suited as boyfriend/girlfriend even though she felt quite sure that you were not suited.
When you shared with her that you did have feelings for her congruent with a boyfriend/ girlfriend relationship, she ignored your sharing because she didn’t want to tell you her truth (for fear of losing the benefits she enjoyed).
And so, you are correct: she did manipulate you. She was dishonest with you. Unfortunately this is a common type manipulation women use: not wanting to lose the benefits of a man’s involvement in their lives, they hide the truth of their romantic disinterest in vague language (“unsure”) and such.
You mentioned having had a tough childhood and suffering from mild autism. You feel that you, maybe more than other people, need simple and clear communication from others, am I correct?
Let me know your thoughts and feelings about what I posted here and we can go on from there (I have ideas)
anita
June 1, 2017 at 11:13 am #151564BradleyParticipantI agree I have very strong feeling for this girl and she literately messages me every day. There is some things I miss with us like the sex. However she keeps talking about this guy she has been seeing and how she finds the relationship distant but loving (this has made me uncomfortable). Yesterday she was upset and I felt bad I couldn’t do much as she doesn’t want me to come to hers at the moment after the big argument. Today I messaged her saying I could not cope with having a friendship when I have strong feelings for her and she called me to try and calm me down.
I agree what you were saying she was not sure at the beginning and she is trying to avoid loosing the benefits between us as a friend. I do feel for her that I cannot move on as it is probably annoying her and I value those benefits we shared and she said its gonna take time to rebuild a friendship. But I cannot keep holding her back like this. Please tell me your ideas and tell me which one is the most constructive.
Bradley
June 2, 2017 at 5:30 am #151636AnonymousGuestDear Bradley:
Prior to your last post I didn’t know the two of you had sex. I thought there was just that one kiss. So the way it was, I now understand, is that there was sex, then she told you she is unsure about continuing sex or being just friends. Following that there was no sex and eventually, that kiss. And after the kiss there hasn’t been more sex. Am I correct?
Before I go on: it is very important to me that the young child that she has is protected from perceived danger so that he is not injured, not hurt emotionally. Her child already got hurt witnessing that aggressive incident between his mother and you. Please, do not place yourself in the presence of that child (as she insists, and continues to insist, I hope), because that will scare him.
When she talks to you about a loving relationship with another man, that is cruel because you told her about your feelings for her. (You wrote earlier that she told you she broke it off with him because of you, this is not so?) This is wrong on her part, evident of lack of empathy for you, caring about your feelings.
I can’t go on unless I have the answer to: how can you possibly have a relationship with a woman who disregards your feelings this way, telling you about a loving relationship with another man knowing you care about her that way?
anita
June 4, 2017 at 10:52 am #151854BradleyParticipantI realize now there is no point of having a relationship. Is there anyway we can make a friendship out of this which she wants and I do want it as well. We had some strong values like making dinner and when she was upset she would cry in my arms. We were pretty strong at one point and I know she is looking the best guy she can take as what has happened to her in the past.
After going on about her current date (they ended apparently the other day as he travels a lot) I have asked for space for at least a week. It caused my mind to be all over the place and actually break down into tears in front of her best mate.
Even with the space. I bumped into her and her kid today. I thought I would be civil and ask her how she is and she was civil with me and even though you have mentioned it was wrong she let me hug her kid.
This situation is a mess.
Bradley
June 4, 2017 at 10:58 am #151856BradleyParticipantAnd yes there was no sex after the kiss. The last time we had sex was end of March. The kiss was the beginning of May which was me taking the lead
June 5, 2017 at 11:36 am #152010AnonymousGuestDear Bradley:
Because of the past incident with her child present and because of your strong feelings for her… and because she disregarded your feelings by sharing with you, knowing how you feel about her (!), about her interest in another man, I think it is better to not pursue a friendship with her either. Because you live close enough to each other (you bumped into her yesterday, you wrote), be civil to her, that is all.
The fact that she shared with you a lot about her life and cried does not mean there was friendship worth keeping or re-starting because, again, she disregarded your feelings repeatedly- and that is not what friendship is about.
I hope you post again with your thoughts and feelings.
anita
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