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April 14, 2021 at 8:29 am #377690AnonymousGuest
Dear IkO9:
Your sister may have been right about this man, but even a broken clock is right twice every 24 hours. The problem with your sister is her highly unethical behavior with you, with her parents, and with other people.
Talking about ethical behavior, that is something your most recent ex (is he still an ex?) mentioned that troubled him so much, and he does tend to apologize a lot, according to what you shared repeatedly. I suppose he feels guilty a lot of the time. I read your request to not be harsh in my communication with him and will accommodate this request. I will post in his thread next. I don’t know if he will reply though, many members abandon their threads following their first, original post.
anita
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April 14, 2021 at 8:47 am #377692Ik09ParticipantI haven’t been in contact with him and as I said, I need to sort my issues and he needs to help himself too. If he doesn’t reply again on the forum, he might have been uncomfortable that I affirmed that he was the person I talked about in my thread.
anyways, I hope for a happy future although I don’t know what is contained there.
April 14, 2021 at 9:30 am #377694TeeParticipantDear lk09,
I hear you and your concern about your sister’s aggressive, manipulative behavior all throughout your childhood and youth. It’s good that you’re aware of her abusive behavior and you don’t feel obliged to take it just because she’s your sister and you should “love each other”. It’s great that you’ve set some boundaries and aren’t allowing her to abuse you any longer.
It’s also very mature of you to try to talk to her about your ex and what exactly she holds against him. But she refused to detail, asking you to trust her, simply because she says so. Since she already informed your parents (and everybody else) about his crush on her, it’s probably true that she wasn’t trying to protect you, but she just behaved true to herself – telling you basically “just do as I say”. In fact, if she knew things about him (since they were in the same friends circle), it would have been only fair if she told you, specially since you asked her to be completely honest with you. So I see how she actually betrayed you here and didn’t act in your best interest.
In a recent post you wrote:
I don’t know how long we would have lasted if my sister didn’t interfere but I would have still dealt with it better than the mess she created with me, him, my family, and his family. I don’t think I can ever forgive her for that even if tomorrow someone else comes to my life, I know I can’t forgive her.
Well, regardless of how your sister behaved, she isn’t the only reason your relationship failed. She may have interfered and ratted him out, but it wasn’t what ruined your relationship. Rather, it was his insecurity, his addictions, his ambivalence. And his asking for her approval even if she was clear she would never grant it. If he were serious and dedicated to you, if he’d pulled his act together, she wouldn’t be able to stand in your way. But unfortunately, he wasn’t, and that’s why things ended the way they did…
April 14, 2021 at 10:05 am #377696Ik09ParticipantObviously, she wasn’t the only reason. Both of us had issues, in fact, have issues. And I know both of us wish each other the best but we both will be always hurt if we continue right now.
I read somewhere- You will keep getting the same results if you keep doing the same things over and over.
We did try to be together again and again but never worked on our individual issues which were perhaps the actual issues.
I have been trying my best in the work sphere and with my friends
April 14, 2021 at 11:33 am #377709Ik09ParticipantI have difficulty enjoying myself with everyone as well. It is not just that I have difficulty sharing my mind with people, I have difficulty even enjoying myself in a group. I become awkward and I notice that people avoid my company as they feel I am too serious.
I wanted to highlight this as another issue of mine which I feel I need to change in order to feel lighter at heart.
April 14, 2021 at 11:41 am #377710AnonymousGuestDear IkO9:
“I have difficulty enjoying myself with everyone.. in a group. I become awkward and I notice that people avoid my company as they feel I am too serious”-
– I wonder if this is the reason why your two long-term relationships about which you shared here were mostly long-distance. Can you remind me of approximately how many hours or days, in total, you spent with the first boyfriend you shared about, and the second/ most recent?
anita
April 14, 2021 at 12:45 pm #377714Ik09ParticipantPerhaps,
I don’t remember very clearly, but we met once a year or twice a year… so 6 times in 3 years perhaps
With the recent one, it was more difficult although the distance was lesser than before because our situation was so weird, we were so on and off, so the gaps were bigger. We met in Oct 2018 then 2019 September then February 2021.
I know you will say it wasn’t a relationship since we didn’t meet like normal couples.
But this is what both of us wanted, a chance to be able to spend time together like normal couples. But the pandemic took away the chance.
April 14, 2021 at 1:13 pm #377718AnonymousGuestDear IkO9:
With the recent man, you met him in Oct 2018, then in September 2019, next time in February 2021, so three times total?
And if you add days and nights total, that you spent with him alone, just you and him, how many total (if you would like to answer)?
anita
April 14, 2021 at 2:22 pm #377722AnonymousGuestDear Iko9:
I tried to reach out to this man, your 5-weeks close proximity boyfriend (“five weeks just us”), otherwise long-distance boyfriend about five hours ago, in my second post to him, with my best empathy and understanding, but he just deactivated his account and is.. gone. I tried but my best was not good enough.
anita
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April 14, 2021 at 2:22 pm #377723April 14, 2021 at 2:34 pm #377728Ik09ParticipantI think he didn’t want me to know that he joined the forum and perhaps this is why he changed his username.
It’s very very difficult for him to talk about his issues with anyone. He doesn’t have me currently so maybe he thought talking here would help but I think for someone already facing low self-esteem issues, reading on my thread that he was the main problem, He was the one with all major issues might have felt like an attack. I can say this because I know how long it took for him to state a basic issue in his life.
I feel it is easier for us women to share our mind than men and if they lose hope for whatever reason that they cannot be helped, then it is like sentencing them in their mental prison.
I will still however not reach out to him.
If However, you are reading this. Please talk to Anita, share your entire story. If you don’t feel comfortable with me being on the forum. I will not open the website for the next few days, but I want you to not keep that pain in you. What is the worst that could happen? A stranger on the internet would tell you that you have issues, don’t you already know that? Didn’t you want to work on them and so decided to seek opinion and help here? Don’t give up on you. The people here are harmless, if you don’t help yourself then there will be a lot who take advantage of you all the time. And no you are not the problem, nobody can clap with just one hand, we require two hands. A happy relationship needs two people and a bad one also needs two to ruin it. I have major problems. Give up that fear. Nobody knows you. Talk. And don’t give up till you start understanding your mind a little better. Be honest about all questions and be patient.
April 14, 2021 at 2:35 pm #377729AnonymousGuest* I will be back to read and reply in a couple of hours.
anita
April 14, 2021 at 2:56 pm #377732TeeParticipantDear lk09,
I am sorry, I feel I might have contributed to his leaving by openly asking you if that was him. But I wouldn’t feel fine communicating with him, and at the same time keeping you in the dark about his crush, since I wasn’t sure if you knew about it. And I thought you should know, because it might have explained some of his behavior, like trying to get your sister’s approval. I thought you should be privy to this information. Well, later it turned out you already know all about it, which is good. It’s good you were honest and open with each other about those kinds of things.
I actually have a lot of compassion for him and know what it means to have low self-esteem, frequent crushes and addictive behaviors. Been there, done that. I am sorry he didn’t stay here… but at least he reached out, even for a short while. I do hope he seeks professional help, or re-joins the forum, because he’s suffering now, and there’s a way to stop his suffering. I hope he chooses to help himself…
April 14, 2021 at 4:30 pm #377735AnonymousGuestDear IkO9:
I read your recent post and your note to him in case he is reading. You are a good person, good and honest. I am glad that you didn’t reach out to him, at least not by the time you posted last.
Remember I wrote to you earlier that although he may be honest in that he told you about his problems and troubles, he is not trustworthy? Here is dictionary. com definition of trust: “reliance on integrity, strength, ability, surety, etc. of a person”- he was not sure about you, he was not able to maintain a relationship with you (breaking up with you multiple times), he didn’t have the strength to even stay on his own thread for more than a day, and he does not display integrity: telling you about his problems but not working to resolve them.
In regard to you: on one hand you are afraid of being alone, on the other hand, you have difficulty being together with people (“I have difficulty even enjoying myself in a group. I become awkward..”). It is not surprising to me because the kind of togetherness you had when your sister was part of the mix was one of aggression and betrayal of your trust. This fear of togetherness may be why your first relationship of three years consisted of you seeing the guy only six times, and your second relationship of 2.5 years consisted of you and him being physically together for only six weeks. All together, you were physically together with these two men for about 2 months out of 5.5 years.
If you want a relationship and marriage that includes physical proximity, you will need to no longer do long-distance relationships, but meet a man that lives close by.
I know it is not practical at this time: yesterday alone in India, more than 185 thousand Covid cases were recorded, more than on any other day since the beginning of the pandemic; more cases than recorded in any other country yesterday. Maybe it is time now to understand your fear of being in the company of others better, so that you will be better prepared, when it is safe, to meet an honest and trustworthy man in-person for the purpose of a healthy marriage.
Keep yourself safe and well!
anita
April 14, 2021 at 10:44 pm #377747Ik09ParticipantI made a decision to work on myself and move on and although the urge to help him is quite strong but I know it will not suddenly bring me a happy relationship. Even in the past, whenever I chose to be in contact with him when he needed any help, I never was expecting something in return. Because whatever was there in the relationship front, I felt we were very good friends.
Especially when we spent the week together in February, we spent a good time together- we enjoyed ourselves, we talked well about all issues, we discussed about the future and we made a decision to meet often and work on our bond together. I said I would come to see him on his birthday in March and he agreed. He didn’t even want to leave. Although his issue staying was that he knew nobody but me in the city so when I went to work and he worked from home, he felt weird and said that all his insecurities would rush back in till I came home in the evening.
Anyways after he left, maybe his fears changed his mind again. He told me he felt I will be too attached to him if I go to see him in his city.
It’s been difficult to trust but that incident made me lose hope as well.
I made a decision then that this is it. I told him I was leaving and he agreed at first but then he asked me not to end it and that he will see a therapist to know why he is behaving this way and why he is so afraid of marriage. When one is in love, they feel really optimistic about everything. I felt like yeah he is trying, let me stick around for some more time.
He did go to the therapist but he didn’t find much help.
At home, nobody is asking for my consent anymore. They didn’t ask if my relationship with him ended or not, they are like since the choice was between my sister and this unknown man… Obviously our daughter will choose her sister and so they started telling me about different boys suitable for arrange marriage.
I told him and at first he gave his usual replies about how confused he felt but then I think he gave up too. He said meet them and if you like any of them, marry that person.
So, I am not going back. I have understood that nothing is going to change. But he doesn’t want to.
I don’t know why there is this complex in Indian society that if a man changes himself for a woman then he is weak, a wussy because acc. To the society, it means he loves the girl more than she loves him and that is not good as the girl will be dominant on the guy’s family.
In India, you don’t marry a person. You marry families. When you choose a guy, you choose his mom and dad and if his grown up siblings live under the same roof then even them. So, it is never just between a girl and a boy.
I so wished him to be the person I end up with. Reason was not any dependency, but the friendship we share… We think alike, we have same sense of humor, same temperament for people, enjoy similar things and adjust easily to things.
But we have lived together for a very less time and you never know what things would happen if we do.
I am taking care and will be okay. I have a lot to work on.
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