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April 2, 2024 at 6:58 am #430454globbyParticipant
Quick story–Met a girl, we became really close, very fast. Fast forward a couple of months, some things were said, and now we are on a bit of a pause. She’s asked for space, and I’ve really tried to give it to her. I just don’t know how to not want to contact her. Does anyone have any advice on how to practice patience when it comes to a relationship that is paused?
April 2, 2024 at 7:16 am #430476anitaParticipantDear John:
“Does anyone have any advice on how to practice patience when it comes to a relationship that is paused?“-
– (1) If you don’t have one, create a daily routine for yourself/a structure to your day (all your waking hours), so you know what you’re supposed to be doing at any one time (resting should be part of the routine),
(2) Part of your daily routine can be, if it suits you, writing/ typing on Word “letters to (her name)” where you tell her about what you are thinking and feeling. Do this while listening to music, if it helps you to express yourself,
(3) Every time you feel like contacting her, thinking about how to do it, what to say to her.. don’t. Instead, do # 2 above.
You wrote “some things were said“- terrible things?
anita
April 2, 2024 at 9:14 am #430480HelcatParticipantHi John
I’m sorry to hear that you’re having difficulties with a relationship on pause.
If you had the opportunity to speak to her what would you like to say?
I’m not suggesting that you speak to her, but it could help to express what you are feeling elsewhere? Perhaps here?
Wishing you all the best! 🙏
April 3, 2024 at 8:18 am #430515globbyParticipantAnita–
Things were said that were not terrible. They were more in the line of moving way too fast and saying way too much too early in a relationship. I journal every day, and write to her every day. It’s getting better for sure, and we are still in contact minimally, but the alternative could have been the end of the relationship all together, so I just need to practice the patience I am so desperately trying to learn. It’s just been really hard. I mean, of course it has been. Also going through other issues in my life that are just as important, but tbh, this relationship means a great deal to me. It’s hard to explain, but like I said, getting better. I just need some support with patience 🙂
April 3, 2024 at 8:23 am #430517globbyParticipantHelcat–
What would I say to her? I’ve said a lot already in a few letters I wrote during the initial shock phase. What I would tell her now is that I have finally figured some things out. That I have been thinking so much about the way that I treated you in the last month, and the fact that you are still here gives me such hope for resolution. I’m not going to say it will be easy, and I’m not going to say it will be successful, but at least we are both still in contact when it would be so easy for you to not be. I know I’ve got a lot of work to do, as do you, but to me, putting in the work now will be nothing but a benefit if there is to be a long run.
April 3, 2024 at 9:44 am #430519anitaParticipantDear John:
“moving way too fast and saying way too much too early in a relationship… I just need to practice the patience I am so desperately trying to learn… I just need some support with patience“-
– Here’s a quote from Goodreads that’s relevant: “Patience is where we realize that to rush something is to compromise it to its own destruction. Maturity is to realize that the most effective way to stop the destruction is by beginning to develop patience. And the first place that we need to do that is with ourselves.” (Craig D. Lounsbrough, a counselor/ life coach)
Here’s a quote from the bible (1 Corinthians 13:14), also relevant: “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.”
Quotes like these inspire me to develop more patience.
A major factor in learning patience is tolerating discomfort, to say to yourself, when uncomfortable (anxious, hurt, angry, bored.. impatient): This is merely uncomfortable, not intolerable. In other words, increase your tolerance for discomfort. It is an emotion regulation skill, aka distress tolerance. In developing distress tolerance, mindfulness practices are very helpful. Regularly listening to/ watching guided meditations, available free online, is one such practice.
For the impatient, it’s difficult to slow down as the guided meditation requires, but if you tolerate the initial discomfort involved, it will help you tremendously in learning/ developing patience.
anita
April 3, 2024 at 10:37 pm #430546HelcatParticipantHi John
I’m sorry to hear that you’re also going through some things in your personal life.
Your words are very touching and reflect the work you’ve been doing on yourself. Well done!
Where do you think these feelings of impatience are coming from and the same question for the feelings you had before that led to you initially rushing the relationship?
You have a very balanced but optimistic perspective on the relationship now.
You mentioned that the relationship means a great deal to you. Would you care to elaborate on that?
I think impatience can have different causes. So what suits one person, may not suit another.
For example, I was reading for myself about how to deal with frustration more effectively and there was a suggestion about using humour to exaggerate my feelings.
So for example, I was frustrated because I felt lonely in the past week while my husband was ill and I was looking after our son. There can be a root belief that discomfort shouldn’t happen or my feelings are important. So using humour and exaggeration would be…
A documentary about being the only person in the world that has ever had to take care of sick relatives. That documentary winning an Oscar and personally winning a medal.
Or…
Imagining that because my husband couldn’t speak very much that it was like living alone in an Antarctic research station with just myself for company and nothing but snow for miles around.
Or
That my husband must lavish me with praise and attention 24/7 or the world will literally end.
I found the exercise quite entertaining and encourages a more balanced perspective.
Wishing you all the best! 🙏❤️
April 4, 2024 at 2:24 pm #430593globbyParticipantHelcat–
Thank you for the response 🙂 To put it mildly, I’ve never had a connection with a person like this before. I felt like I had to over do it so she wouldn’t lose interest. I felt like I had to move quickly so that I wouldn’t lose her. There was no reason for these feelings, other than desire and want. Neither one of us was going anywhere, but I pushed to hard. The fact I realize that now makes me sad, because this whole situation could have been avoided.
The reason that this relationship means so much is because of how open and vulnerable I was, without hesitation from me or judgement from her. I’ve never experienced that before. I’ve been working alot with my therapist to get to the root cause of these issues I have, and we’ve been pretty successful so far, but I’m just afraid it’s too late. Other issues in my life have complicated the matter as well, but at the end of the day I screwed up, and now I’ve been scrambling trying to make up for it, and probably just making it worse.
Ugh. I mean, it’s frustrating because of the self immolation that I constantly practice in my life. I’m just trying to practice my patience and calmness. I’m doing okay, but just so mixed up emotionally about this.
April 4, 2024 at 9:08 pm #430617TommyParticipantIt is sad to say, that when a person wants a pause, it means she doesn’t want you. Does it matter if you were going too fast? Yes, it does. Couples like it better when things go as if both wanted the same thing at the same time. Not always possible. Anyway, she doesn’t see it the same way. You appear to be needy and clingy to her. So, anybody who feels smothered wants space. But, space means losing the other person. A strain is put upon the relationship.
If you walk around and think of her all day, if you just feel the want to hear her voice, if you crave being near her, if you miss her kisses, …. you got it bad. And it will only make it worse. How do you get yourself into a better situation? Just drop her. If she wants you then she will call. If not then you need to have moved on. Find a good hobby? Find another love? Learn the art of starting a conversation with strangers. Know your worth. Do something to keep your mind off her. Then soon it will become less and less. Become a better person.
I know it sounds harsh. But, you must understand that you only get a first impression once. You made yourself look clingy and needy. She will always see you as someone below her level. Not confident and not the man who knows their worth. Better yourself so the next woman will know you are worthy of her caring. Give up on her. If she does call then you will be ready. If she doesn’t call then you will be ready. I am sorry for my poor advice.
April 5, 2024 at 8:46 am #430626anitaParticipant* Dear Tommy: when I read the ending of your (excellent!) advice, “I am sorry for my poor advice”, I had to tell you that I am a fan! Your fan, and more accurately, I am a Tommy’s Ego Fan (a TEF). I like your combination of humility and humor.
Dear John:
I went back to re-reading your posts because of Tommy’s reply and with his input in mind:
(I am adding the boldface feature selectively to the quotes): “She’s asked for space, and I’ve really tried to give it to her… we are still in contact minimally“- better that you give her all the space she asked for. Otherwise, it portrays you as either too weak to stay away from her and/ or disrespectful of her need for space.
“Does anyone have any advice on how to practice patience when it comes to a relationship that is paused?”- a relationship that is paused is still ongoing, but it’s .. sort of, not alive anymore, yet it’s not dead either. This may be more difficult to endure long-term than if it was a relationship that was ended.
“Met a girl, we became really close, very fast… Things were said… in the line of moving way too fast and saying way too much too early in a relationship… I felt like I had to over do it so she wouldn’t lose interest. I felt like I had to move quickly so that I wouldn’t lose her… I pushed too hard”-
– reads like Anxious Attachment Style, on your part, indicating you growing up with an unreliable parent: one that was present with you sometimes (enough for you to form an attachment to), but unpredictably absent too many times, for what felt (or was) long periods of time. The absence could be a parent spending time outside the home, leaving the child behind with a babysitter, let’s say. It could be a parent staying in her bedroom for long periods of time, leaving the child alone, elsewhere in the house, or otherwise withdrawing affection from the child unpredictably.
Fast forward, the child, now an adult, forms a strong romantic connection to another, and the child-within panics, scared of losing the parent again, by proxy of the romantic partner (the parent gets projected into the romantic partner).
“The reason that this relationship means so much is because of how open and vulnerable I was, without hesitation from me or judgement from her. I’ve never experienced that before”- before the relationship, you were too afraid to be open and vulnerable, with her you were open and vulnerable. Part of your openness was to express you anxiety about losing her, wasn’t it?
And that anxiety was too much for her to bear, so she needed space. Maybe she felt too much of a responsibility for your emotional well-being, as in having a needy child.
“Ugh. I mean, it’s frustrating because of the self immolation that I constantly practice in my life”-
– from a website (save tibet. org): “Self immolation is a profound cry for help by those who feel they have no other way to tell the world about their suffering”.
You are welcome here, to tell about your suffering in ways that express- on the screen- the depth of your suffering, if it is something that may help you. (This is what I do in my own thread, and I find it helpful).
anita
April 5, 2024 at 10:18 am #430628HelcatParticipantHi John
How are you feeling? I would like to know if you are okay…
So you felt worried that she would lose interest in you. And you felt that being able to be vulnerable with her without being judged was an amazing experience. Perhaps you not had many people in your life that you have had that kind of experience with?
I can understand having an amazing experience and not wanting to lose it. She does sound like a special person. But, if it doesn’t work out there will be other people that you can be vulnerable with, there are other non judgemental people out there. Sometimes, they are not partners, sometimes they are just friends.
Believing that someone will lose interest… well that might be your experience in dating, that people sometimes lose interest. Or do you believe in yourself?
Tommy has some good points as well as some that I don’t necessarily agree with. But he is a good person, he doesn’t mean badly. He no doubt has different experiences to me in dating. My perspective is more forgiving.
I thought it was a good sign that you are both still in contact despite being on a break. I have had that experience before too. And I don’t necessarily believe that first impressions last forever. People can change. It sounds like to me that you are in the process of changing. You are doing good work with your therapist. You are starting to open up to people. Regardless of whether things do or don’t work out you with this person will have many wonderful experiences ahead of you. I do sincerely wish you good luck though.
It is helpful to be somewhat guarded of your emotions during the dating process because there are a lot of disappointments. And it is a lot of pressure for one person to be that kind of an experience for you. Ideally, people build larger support networks and have multiple amazing people to rely on.
Wishing you all the best! 🙏❤️
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