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November 22, 2022 at 8:21 am #410524TeeParticipant
Dear humour,
you are welcome.
I usually donāt get angry easily, yet I will think on the lines you have mentioned, Tee.
Please do, because I don’t think you’re a super laid back person with a thick skin, who isn’t hurt by anything, are you? It sounds more like you are hurt and upset by things, but instead of reacting, you rather suppress those emotions. You don’t like reacting and showing people what you feel (am I right in assuming this?). And binge eating could be a way to soothe yourself, or distract yourself, so that you don’t feel those unpleasant emotions.
I agree with anita that it would help to observe yourself and see what triggers your binge eating episodes…
Actually the split is in my family of origin and it was natural, due to death and my sibling moving out after being marriage.
I see… so the split happened in 2017, when your father died and your sister moved out after she got married? Are you currently living with your mother?
I am looking out for a partner but havenāt been successful on that front.
You’re welcome to share more about it, if you’d like to…
November 23, 2022 at 6:02 am #410578humourParticipantYes Tee, I am currently living with my mother.
Maybe there is more than one reason causing me to binge eat. I am not able to figure it out. I feel hungry most of the time but this is not happening since a long time, just a recent development.
“Please do, because I donāt think youāre a super laid back person with a thick skin, who isnāt hurt by anything, are you? ”
Hehe. Yes I will work on it.
“Youāre welcome to share more about it, if youād like toā¦”
I just feel very unclear and foggy in this regard. The person I like doesn’t like me back or vice versa. Just one time I let a person go and I regret it.
November 23, 2022 at 8:56 am #410587AnonymousGuestDear humour:
“Maybe there is more than one reason causing me to binge eat. I am not able to figure it out. I feel hungry most of the time“- hungry for nutrients (protein, carbohydrates, fats, vitamins & minerals) or hungry for a good feeling/ distraction from a bad feeling?
anita
November 23, 2022 at 1:15 pm #410602TeeParticipantDear humour,
Maybe there is more than one reason causing me to binge eat. I am not able to figure it out. I feel hungry most of the time but this is not happening since a long time, just a recent development.
If you feel hungry most of the time, it could be even something to do with your health, e.g. diabetes or hyperthyroidism. Did you have your blood work done recently? When you binge eat, do you feel hungry, or it’s more like “emotional” eating?
Yes Tee, I am currently living with my mother.
And how is it to live with your mother? You’ve shared that you like to help, so I am guessing you’re helping her a lot? How is it otherwise? (if you’d like to share)
I think understanding your relationship with your mother (and your late father) can help you understand yourself and also the way you behave in romantic relationships. For example, if we haven’t felt loved as children, we’ll often be attracted to people who aren’t interested in us, or who are emotionally unavailable. And we’ll suffer because our love isn’t reciprocated. Maybe you had experiences like that?
November 23, 2022 at 6:18 pm #410625humourParticipantI eat healthy food too but I also eat because I crave a good feeling.
“And how is it to live with your mother? Youāve shared that you like to help, so I am guessing youāre helping her a lot? How is it otherwise?”
These days because of office work, I am unable to help much. My mother is very supportive when I am down but I also stand up for myself if there is unreasonable blaming etc. We have a fairly healthy relationship.
“For example, if we havenāt felt loved as children, weāll often be attracted to people who arenāt interested in us, or who are emotionally unavailable. And weāll suffer because our love isnāt reciprocated. Maybe you had experiences like that?”
Experiences are teaching me a lot of things. I wish I did not have to learn this way. The downside is I am losing people although I m gaining a lot of lessons on the art of living.
November 23, 2022 at 11:33 pm #410637TeeParticipantDear humour,
I eat healthy food too but I also eat because I crave a good feeling.
I see… so it’s mostly emotional eating then. I was like that too – wanted to get a good feeling, to forget about the pain (but as I said, I didn’t know back then that I was soothing myself…).
My mother is very supportive when I am down but I also stand up for myself if there is unreasonable blaming etc. We have a fairly healthy relationship.
That’s good to hear. So with her you feel you can stand up for yourself and set boundaries, without feeling guilty? And what you said earlier that you often don’t know what a normal reaction is – it happens in other relationships?
Experiences are teaching me a lot of things. I wish I did not have to learn this way. The downside is I am losing people although I m gaining a lot of lessons on the art of living.
Due to your negative experiences in childhood, you’ve adopted a certain belief system and certain core beliefs about yourself, which aren’t true. You may not be aware of those false beliefs, but they are affecting you and your relationships even to this day. And if you haven’t healed those childhood wounds properly, I am guessing that similar unpleasant experiences keep happening to you, and they are only confirming those false beliefs that you have about yourself or other people (or the world). That’s probably one of the reasons why you’re “losing people”. Because you’re reacting from those old wounds…
Have you been in therapy? Have you worked on your childhood wounds and your unmet childhood needs?
November 24, 2022 at 1:28 am #410640TeeParticipantDear humour,
My mother is very supportive when I am down but I also stand up for myself if there is unreasonable blaming etc.
So she does blame you sometimes? What is she blaming you for, if I may ask?
It could be that your mother needs you as her care-taker, so when you’re down, she wants to make you feel better, and that’s why she is supportive. However, her motive might be to cheer you up, so you can take care of her again.
But when you have needs of your own, she might be blaming you for those needs? She might be supportive conditionally – only when it suits her. Is that what your dynamics look like?
November 24, 2022 at 5:23 am #410646humourParticipantActually my mother is healing with me but she has always been strong and supportive and kept the family together. Actually, she can do without me. Its just minor tiffs we have sometimes.
“You may not be aware of those false beliefs”
Exactly! I sometimes don’t understand what ‘normal’ means or how I am perceived or if I am saying the right things etc.
November 24, 2022 at 8:21 am #410653TeeParticipantDear humour,
Actually my mother is healing with me but she has always been strong and supportive and kept the family together.
You said she used to be strong and supportive, but when your father died in 2017, she suddenly became weak and fragile, both physically and emotionally:
My mother has always been a strong lady who took care of all important things around the house but once my father passed on, my mother has grown weak, physically and emotionally. She has grown tender towards me. … I am really worried if I can let go off my mother. … I find it hard to accept the fact that mom could get lonely…
Does it mean that she has returned to her usual strong self in the last 5 years? And that you’re not worried any more about her being lonely and unhappy?
As for binge eating, you said:
I eat healthy food too but I also eat because I crave a good feeling.
Are you perhaps aware of an inner critical voice (the inner critic) which is telling you certain negative things about yourself? For example, “I’ll never be happy”, or “I am such a freak” (both of these is what I’ve been telling myself while suffering from an ED). So what are those thoughts/beliefs that you have about yourself, which sort of run half-consciously in the back of your mind?
November 25, 2022 at 12:26 am #410682humourParticipantMy mother has grown weak with age but she has returned to her usual strong self. She just wants to see me happy.
“Are you perhaps aware of an inner critical voice (the inner critic) which is telling you certain negative things about yourself? For example, āIāll never be happyā, or āI am such a freakā (both of these is what Iāve been telling myself while suffering from an ED). So what are those thoughts/beliefs that you have about yourself, which sort of run half-consciously in the back of your mind?”
I may be falling behind in life, not sure of the choices I have made, little afraid to make choices for the future. Everyone around me seems to be making a lot of progress. I don’t think I have failed but I feel I have not lived upto my true potential.
November 25, 2022 at 3:40 am #410685TeeParticipantDear humour,
My mother has grown weak with age but she has returned to her usual strong self. She just wants to see me happy.
It’s good to hear your mother has gotten stronger again and “can do without you”, i.e. doesn’t depend on your help. My mother also always said she wants me to be happy, however she criticized me a lot while I was growing up and didn’t have faith in me. So she kind of ruined my capacity to be happy… It took me many years to regain it…
And it’s always like that with childhood trauma – it ruins or severely limits our capacity for happiness. For example, we may feel confused and incapable of knowing what’s good for us. We don’t trust ourselves. I was like that. It came from my mother’s criticism of me, and then later I made some wrong choices, which left me feeling I can’t trust my judgment and I don’t know what is good for me.
It seems that you too have a similar belief about yourself:
I may be falling behind in life, not sure of the choices I have made, little afraid to make choices for the future. Everyone around me seems to be making a lot of progress. I donāt think I have failed but I feel I have not lived upto my true potential.
It seems you too believe that you can’t trust your judgment and that you’re afraid of making choices in the future. Another belief that I see in your words is “I am falling behind, I am worse than others”, which usually boils down to “I am a failure.” I had this belief for a long time too.
My false core beliefs are mostly the consequence of my mother’s heavy criticism, and then my father not protecting me from it, not standing up for me. So I was alone mostly, no one giving me encouragement and support, and no one telling me that I was lovable and worthy. I adopted the belief that I was faulty to my core. And also worthless.
I wonder what your family dynamics was. You did share a little about your family, mostly that yours wasn’t a happy and “normal” family. And that you tried everything to make them happy, but failed. What was your relationship with your mother, i.e. your father when you were a child? Because it defines what messages and false beliefs we adopt about ourselves.
November 25, 2022 at 7:03 pm #410731humourParticipantDear Tee,
I can relate to the things you have mentioned. Is there any book I can read which will give me pointers on how to be more confident, trust myself and so on?
My mother used to work very hard to take care of us. She would take care of my father and us no matter what happened. I did not have any communication with my mother growing up. She used to be very busy. Its only since a few years we talk to each other.
November 26, 2022 at 2:08 pm #410770TeeParticipantDear humour,
if you relate to these things, then you too, like me and so many others, are probably suffering from Complex PTSD (C-PTSD), which is another word for childhood trauma. A good book on C-PTSD is “A practical guide to Complex PTSD: Compassionate Strategies to Begin Healing from Childhood Trauma“, by Arielle Schwartz.
Another great book to start with, perhaps a little easier read, is “Running on Empty: Overcome your Childhood Emotional Neglect“, by Jonice Webb.
I did not have any communication with my mother growing up. She used to be very busy. Its only since a few years we talk to each other.
This sounds like you were emotionally neglected by your mother. She was so busy that she didn’t have time for you, not even to talk to you, not to mention meet your emotional needs, such as soothe and calm you down when you’re upset, protect you, cheer you on, praise you, encourage you etc etc. If your mother didn’t really pay attention to you, she couldn’t meet your emotional needs either, and as a result, you couldn’t develop self-confidence and other capacities for happiness…
You said you never went on holidays, never spent time together, never even had a meal together… Was it because both of your parents worked incredibly hard, practically non stop? But even so, how come you never had a meal together?
You also said you wanted to make your family happy. What have you tried to do, which you hoped would make them happy? Of course, if you’d like to share…
November 29, 2022 at 9:46 am #410949AnonymousGuestDear humour:
On Nov 24, 2022, you wrote: “Actually my mother…Ā has always been strong and supportive“, but the next day, you wrote: “I did not have any communication with my mother growing up. She used to be very busy. Its only since a few years we talk to each other“- being that you are now in your later 30s, it means that all through your childhood, as well as throughout your adolescence, your 20s…and into your 30s, your mother and you did not talk to each other.
Therefore, I figure that she was “always strong and supportive” as far as working and being financially supportive (maybe she worked in another city or country and did not live with you..?), but with no communication between the two of you, you did not receive any emotional support from her whatsoever- for more than 30 years of your life. Perhaps there was no one to hold you when you were growing up, no affectionate physical touch…?
More than 6 years ago, on July 21, 2016, you wrote: “I am finding it hard to concentrate at work because of some personal issues/confusions“. On Jan 14-15, 2017, you wrote: “I do get stress headaches most of the time… Ā for the last 4 years I’ve been depressed… I am in my early 30s. I feel like I am 60. Feeling helpless, confusedā¦ I am so confused“, on June 2-26, 2017, you wrote: “I am so confused, scared, worried..Ā Too much stress and sad memories overall“, and recently, on Nov 8, 2022, you wrote: “I can’t remember the past too well (or maybe subconsciously I choose to forget it ā similar to disassociation I guess)”-
– it seems to me that you have suffered from a whole lot of stress for a long, long time, which led to your concentration difficulties, lots of confusion, stress headaches, depression and poor memory.
It is well-known that skin-to-skin touch is vital for babies’ and young children’s development. There are studies that show that children who grow up in orphanages, children who were rarely touched, produced higher levels of the stress hormone cortisol. I wonder if you grew up without a mother, and/ or without adequate physical touch, as well as without adequate emotional support…?
anita
November 29, 2022 at 9:51 am #410950AnonymousGuestRe-posting:
Dear humour:
On Nov 24, 2022, you wrote: āActually my motherā¦Ā has always been strong and supportiveā, but the next day, you wrote: āI did not have any communication with my mother growing up. She used to be very busy. Its only since a few years we talk to each otherā- being that you are now in your later 30s, it means that all through your childhood, as well as throughout your adolescence, your 20sā¦and into your 30s, your mother and you did not talk to each other.
Therefore, I figure that she was āalways strong and supportiveā as far as working and being financially supportive (maybe she worked in another city or country and did not live with you..?), but with no communication between the two of you, you did not receive any emotional support from her whatsoever- for more than 30 years of your life. Perhaps there was no one to hold you when you were growing up, no affectionate physical touchā¦?
More than 6 years ago, on July 21, 2016, you wrote: “I am finding it hard to concentrate at work because of some personal issues/confusions“. On Jan 14-15, 2017, you wrote: “I do get stress headaches most of the timeā¦ for the last 4 years Iāve been depressedā¦ I am in my early 30s. I feel like I am 60. Feeling helpless, confusedā¦I am so confusedā, on June 2-26, 2017, you wrote: āI am so confused, scared, worried.. Too much stress and sad memories overallā, and recently, on Nov 8, 2022, you wrote: “I canāt remember the past too well (or maybe subconsciously I choose to forget it ā similar to disassociation I guess)”-
– it seems to me that you have suffered from a whole lot of stress for a long, long time, which led to your concentration difficulties, lots of confusion, stress headaches, depression and poor memory.
It is well-known that skin-to-skin touch is vital for babiesā and young childrenās development. There are studies that show that children who grow up in orphanages, children who were rarely touched, produced higher levels of the stress hormone cortisol. I wonder if you grew up without a mother, and/ or without adequate physical touch, as well as without adequate emotional supportā¦?
anita
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