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November 15, 2017 at 2:17 pm #178251Jenny LynnParticipant
Okay y’all here we go. Please bare with me…I do tell a good story though so yea, cuz my life is a fucking mess lmaoJ
OK! So I am currently in a relationship with; for the sake of this story we are going to call him Glen. Me and Glen have been dating since the end of Nov 2016. We have been in a committed relationship since Feb 2017 and moved in together April 2017. YES I KNOW! You live you learn y’all but I am getting somewhere though lol
So me and Glen started dating a month and a half AFTER I ended my relationship with for the story we are going to call John. So this is the run down on John real quick: Me and John started dating Oct 2015 I met him at a job I worked at. I was dating someone else at the time we met (he was horribly awful omg) but I was loyal to him and John was very respectful of the fact that I had a relationship. I knew he liked me but he was never forward or disrespectful about it like the other men that worked at this job. A few guys had little crushes on me and didn’t care I had a BF either. So after my then BF literally forgot my birthday I ended it and he was awful anyways lol so there wasn’t much to get over and all I think about after I dried my little tears after a few weeks was this adorable guy at my old job (because I had quit) so I had reached out to him and just asked if he had a GF and if he didn’t did he maybe wanna grab drinks or something. So he didn’t and we did go out a few days later and we clicked like clack lol. We started seeing each other pretty often and then we fell off right before the end of the year because he was dating other people and I didn’t like that. (I’ll get back to the lessons I have learned later lmao) But I didn’t like that and so we parted ways from about Jan- early March. And we linked back again like we had never left each other. So this is where things get a little sticky. Okay so we got back cool and literally I would see him basically every day if not every other day. And he didn’t necessarily tell me the other chicks were gone but I thought it was implied right cuz I had a problem before (my position has changed in hindsight). So after about 2 months a situation occurred and I encountered one of these other girls he was dating. She had showed up to his house apparently he got a little carried away with me and forgot he had other plans for the day. So we were at his house and hes really anal about doors being locked and some how this door wasn’t locked and the girl just walked in saw me she got made etc etc. he made her leave and that was that. The gag is she knew about me I just didn’t know about her. But me and him talked he said he cared about her and that he did sleep with her and I was just like okay yea that’s not going to work because we have sex. So that’s a no go. He apologized and we moved on with my legs closed because I don’t need those issues right. THIS IS NOT BY BOYFRIEND AT THE TIME we were just dating. But I wanted him to commit he just wasn’t ready yet. Soooooo. I left his house yall and went to meet the girl lmao. We met at a restaurant to talk about what had just happened. We talked for like 3 hours yall and by the end the girl was basically lying to me to get me to think there was more to them than there really was. I saw him everyday you see him once or twice a week. But she was trying to make it seem like it was everyday too. Like girl he stays at my house I stay at his house. Its impossible so basically she just ended up being jealous and making up stuff like on the spot to try and compete you know. So I understood from then on that he lied and you lied so okay. Him and that girl been going around in circles for almost a year and a half I ended up putting together. He never was in a relationship with her. John said she broke his trust so he couldn’t ever see past that. About a month later we are at his house and yall another girl knocks on his door lmao I literally cant make this up. He went out and talked to this chick and then later on the girl actually reached out to me and apologized because she said she just showed up and she wasn’t invited she was basically just trying her luck because he had ended things with her and she knew about me and he told her how important I was to him and etc. But none of these girls he actually was in a relationship with but yet again another girl who just wasted or was wasting a year plus messing with him when he wasn’t going to commit; he was like shes really nice but shes literally smashed like 10 of my friends so that’s a no. So Now we are in June. We’re cool but I’m putting like helllllllaaaa pressure on him to like make something shake because in my head I am not about to be like those girls who he just strung along for years and shit. No, even if we break up I can at least say he was my boyfriend no just some dude I talked to. So after those incidents nothing else happened. And in July after me pushing and poking he asked me to be his girlfriend and we dated from then to the middle of Oct 2016. I broke up with him because I felt like he didn’t want to be kept. Like I had pushed him out of his comfort zone and he resented me almost for it. We had talked Halloween and I just felt a way and I called him venting like “you seem stand off ish like you don’t really fuck with me blah blah blah.” And he comes back at me with “Ever since we got together you nag a lot. And you pick at little shit and make it problems or have these expectations of me and how I am supposed to act just because were together and I don’t like it.” My stupid ass was like “Ok well fine we cant not be together then” lmaoo *CLICK* But it was the truth, I just all of a sudden put this stupid girlfriend hat on and had these expectations of him that were literally dumb, just petty things. Forced things like saying I love you awkwardly and shit lol we didn’t talk for a month after that and when I talked to him he was just like “I had no idea that converasation was going to go like that and I love you and I loved where I was but I don’t want that back because of how I felt about the things you were doing” At this time I had absolutely NO understanding of what I was doing or how I was causing harm to our relationship. I thought everything I was asking for was reasonable. I have deleted the texts from that time but I do see that we were still sending funny videos and stuff thru facebook in the month of DEC and JAN. the end of Jan beginning of Feb he asks me for somethings from my house that were his Shorts, Charger. He was cheap as hell so I knew he really wanted him but hey guys lets not forget GLEN! Glen is in the picture now. Distracting me, sweeping me off my little feet or whatever and he uses your charger now lmao SO! I take him the shorts and put them in his mailbox EVEN THO I knew he was home. Because I literally couldn’t BARE to see his face. He just makes me feel like glitter unicorns are going to explode out of me and I don’t need that cuz me and GLEN are in a committed relationship at this time RIGHT? RIGHT! He had green eyes too yall! I don’t need those problems! Lol all jokes aside. He called me like Yo! Do we have beef and Im like no I just cant see you. Its too much. and he said well I’d love to have a drink and see you. I said I don’t think that’s best I am dating someone else now and he doesn’t play about me. He said he respected it. I was like yeaaaa sorry. But if it doesn’t work out and neither one of us have relationships or babies in the next year-2 or 3. I’ll hit you up. So that’s the story of John. John was also 11 years older than me I was 22-23 when I was dating him and he was 34-35. During our relationship and dating we had our ups and downs but we always got along. We literally had 3 arguments in a year and 1 wasn’t even that serious and 1 was counting when we actually broke up. Lol We just clicked. He admired me and I admired him. He was so cheap but would always show out for me, my birthday he just made literally like the best 5 days ever. He told me he did and does it all for me and anything I wanted he would make happen for me. We talked about our beautiful ass babies we would have. I just. I loved him, I loved everything about him. His laugh, his light heartedness, his smile, his eyes, the way he looked at me, the way he protected me, the way he let others interact with me, how special he thought I was, his drive, the motivation, he owned his own business very successfully, the fact that I could talk to him about anything, or just talk about anything literally because I talk about (I mean look how long this post is lol) & his hugs UGH!!! His hugssss. Fuck. I miss how easy everything was with us.
But now we gotta bring it back to Glen because I don’t know if I felt those things until I realized the things I know now about what exactly was going on in that relationship and THIS ONE too. So me and GLEN. I actually met him a month after John in Nov 2015 I just never actually went out with him. We would text but I wouldn’t really do to much he was just someone I would talk to kind of when I got bored. Because I only dated one person at a time and I felt like that was the way it should be and after a few months of not seeing me I did tell him that. Like yo I date someone else and I just have my attention on that right now. But yall already read the stuff above so me texting this guy wasn’t even a big deal by comparison. During the time I was in a relationship with John. I DID NOT TALK to Glen. But after the break up it was history. Our first date was Nov 30 2016 and he took me to my favorite place. For about 4 weeks I would see him like 2-3 times a week. Christmas came and we exchanged gifts and then around the end of Dec/early Jan we started seeing each other everyday. Then around the end of January he was basically staying at my house every night and then by March we are in a relationship and basically don’t breath without the other person around. And then lets flash to April when my lease was up. So he has a place right. I had just recently lost my job as well and had just got confirmation of a new job. So I asked him If I could stay at his spot of 6 weeks until I got on my feet and then if that worked out really well we could see about getting a place together. My VERY FLAWED mentaility then was we see each other everyday anyways, we could save money, we love each other, WHAT COULD GO WRONG!!? Lmao WTH! I now know that none of those reasons are the reasons why someone should move in with their significant other. Furthermore I don’t think that I’ll ever live with someone again pending how this turns out so I hope yall are still with me. Okay so . April comes, and his younger brothers step dad had been staying at Glens duplex since he was with me all the time and I told Glen hes gotta go right. Well the day before my move comes and nothing is happening so Glen basically tells me he has the money for a deposit and to find somewhere for us to live. Keep in mind I have a mamma and she wasn’t hearing this shit yall lmao. But I love him! So I don’t listen and I do what I want which was found an apartment literally in a day (its was really nice tho) he got off work brought me the money and we moved in that day. But my moms had ALL the coins for this. She would have given me the money to move but I told her no. So we move in and things are…well things. Me and him argue A LOT. And at this point I have ironed out that I am basically dating myself. Glen is just like me, except a version of me that I have out grew he is very irritable, argumentative, thinks he knows everything, has extremely high expectations of me; yea me 2011-2013 until some well needed self reflection and I changed a lot of those habits. He is 28 and is all the things I ever said I wanted from a guy. Thoughtfulness, Consistnecy, not afraid of commitment, punctual, spoils me. I felt a lot of pressure when I started dating him. I almost felt like he waited a year to date me you know and I felt like I had to make my descisons quickly because he wasn’t with the games….Like me with John lol because that’s the fucked up part yall. PLOT TWIST. I’m John now and Glen is me. I felt like such a hypocrite guys, like how could I have asked for all these things then someone is standing in front of me ready to give them to me and I’m like OHH not right now, give me a second so I can go be a hoe out here for a second. I mean come one I did just end my relationship of basically a year that piggybacked from another one from a year. I just needed a second to feel things truthfully. But I didn’t have that time because Im dealing with a male me! Lol Who wanted commitment and answers yall lol! Sometimes I feel like I picked up my relationship with John and just started living it with another man. Glen is great, but Glen is bad. Me and Glen argue a lot. Our prides collide a lot because we are so alike. This is so abnormal to me an really bothers me because I DO NOT ARGUE with people but after you move in with someone everything is magnified so at first it was good and things just go to be a lot. I thinks that’s when these thoughts started to come. My best friend told me to wait until I resolved my feelings for John but clearly yall my dumb ass doesn’t listen well and my answer to that was If the love between me and Glen is real and true it will cast a shadow on what I felt for John and it wont matter because I will know it wasn’t real. But maybe that is what is confusing me because I cant get him out of my head now. Me and Glen had a really rough month from my birthday to now. My birthday is the end of Sept and he basically didn’t do anything for me. He remembered he just didn’t do anything for me. My birthday is a big deal to me that’s how I realize who is really down for me and who isn’t. My birthday is a holiday dammit ! lol I REALLLLY felt a way. And then he found himself breaking up with me the next day guys in the middle of a arugment while I was about to go out and have dinner with my best friend I.E someone who wanted to do something nice for me for my birthday and she gotten me a gift to which he saw. But he basically said I didn’t tell him I was going and I did it on purpose blah blah blah and he broke up with me. I left anyways. Had my dinner, woke up the next day and revisited it and he didn’t budge. Okay well Monday comes and I am still pissed hes not sleeping in the bed, we aren’t talking forreal and a friend of mine was in town. I guy dated years ago (literally 3-4 years) but hes a great guy and we didn’t end it on bad terms he just didn’t lived where I did and it made thing hostile lol. But he was in town ironically and I accept his add on snap because I was loyal I always kept him blocked. By the way I kept ALL MY exes blocked including John. So he could have been texting me from Feb-Oct and I wouldn’t know him and all the others. But this was out of respect for Glen. Well fuck that cuz I was mad and if Glen was anything like me he really was done with me so. This guy was like you wanna go get food I am leaving town in like 2 days. I was like sureee and we went out that evening. YALLLL! Im going to fast forward but yea Glen found out where I was he got mad. We partially resolved it because shoot you broke up with me. Its not like I slept with the guy. Like he was hurt but he moved past it as of today. So after that things were rocky for about 2 weeks and I just broke down and cried for like an hour right before we were about to go on a date and was just like I don’t think we should be together. Then about a week later I had really ironed out my feelings and decided I wanted him to move out and we just stay together. I needed my space and I feel like my indepence was taken from me when I didn’t give it. YOU CANNOT BE ROOMMATES with you SIGNIFICANT OTHER. If felt married and hadn’t even been proposed to. I didn’t like that feeling and I told him my problems with him. Which was basically his temper. He has a really bad temper and his reactions are really effecting my feelings for him. He doesn’t hit me or cuss me out or anything. He does more manipulative shit than that. And I know him so I know why he does and doesn’t do things ya kno. He said he would work on everything I asked. But that was when it was break up and get back together. Now that I want him to move out he says he wont stay with me. When I really think it will be whats best for our relationship because we don’t have enough space. I feel like we take each other for granted and I just cant think straight anymore. I want my space back. I want to be able to miss him I want to date and be in a relationship like normal people and this is not normal. Things were getting better I don’t know if I just go so fed up that I became impatient and just switched to move out instead. Because all my problems could be resolved that way too because theyre mostly the result of living together before we should have. He is not fond of this and as of 3-4 days ago (because he wasn’t really making moves to move out) he still said he didn’t want to be together if he moved out. That I needed to be alone but what if he needs to be with me. He has always had a large attachement to me. I have noticed since I met him. I know he is crazzzyy in love with me now. But I still feel like he has loved me for a really long time. Like maybe for just the sake of honesty before he should have. So I don’t know if he has some attachment issue because he did this with his ex and they dated for 6 years. But moved in after like a month or so. Maybe I am rebound for him too because the timeline I put together was they broke up SEPT 2015 and he was giving me his number NoV 2015 even though I actually start dating him till the next year.
So to end this sonnet. Gosh I hope someone reads all this shit to give me some advice. But basically I think he is warming up to the idea of staying together even though he is moving out. But John is heavily on my mind and has been for a few months like I said. Since my relationship was really rocky ya know like on some me and John didn’t argue like this or John didn’t fuck with birthdays either but he turned tf out or John didn’t question me about this or that. Yall get it? But I like fantasize about him sometimes. This post is really due to the fact that I had a dream about John, a super lucid one. And I searched all over this town for him and then I run in this building and find he and just run up to him and give him a hug and I woke up like OMG WTF is going on. That was too much. So I mustttt iron out my feelings but I just need some outside advice from someone who doesn’t know me or the situation first hand like my friends do.
Glen is a great person, he is so loving. He loves every inch and speckle on me. But sometimes I feel like he wants to steal me from the world. Almost like I cant be my full self with him. Because I do like attention sometimes. From other people in the most innocent way possible like if my hair looks good or I have a nice outfit on. Or your everyday your pretty from a stranger male or female. He makes me feel bad about stuff like that. When that’s who I am. I don’t want to regret I guess is the thing. Is Glen the guy Im going to regret not having when maybe 2-3 years from now I change and that is what a women is supposed to want. Is this normal? He takes care of me, he would do anything for me. But as well two holidays Valentines day and Birthday have came and he did nothing for either. He has never even given me flower or honestly any romantic gesture ever. I questioned him about that once. He in so many words said I didn’t deserve things “like that” he admitted the birthday thing was to spite me for something I had done earlier that week. He forgave me for having dinner with the guy so I forgave him for that and basically said it better never happen again. I wake up to him. I text him while we both work random conversations ya kno. I come home, He comes home. We chill talk a little, have sex or and go to sleep and do it over again. I have seen him everyday for literally 10 months going on 11. I sometimes feel like that show 90 day finace lmao. It just a lot to feel like I basically gave up my whole like in a matter of what 3-4 months and even though my feelings for him are very genuine. What were they based in? He cleans, he cooks sometimes. He accepts me for me but within his parameters. He bickers. But he loves me so so so much. I could spend my life with him especially going forward if the things that are getting better stay better. But I still cant get JOHNNN out of my head. I just want to text him sometimes like “Can you just tell me you don’t ever think about me? That you don’t miss me? That you have moved on” So I can just know that and go on and eliminate that from my thoughts. He is private person so I don’t know if hes dating anyone. I don’t even know if me and Glen are technically together right now but its not over till the fat lady sings you out of this apartment then you say you’re done. Lol But I don’t know what to do with all of this. And I cant say this shit outloud because ….well….I don’t want to. I could NEVERRR tell Glen about this. He doesn’t talk about his past a lot. He doesn’t really like it when I talk about my past either. Almost like you don’t want to know about my life before you. Like it doesnt matter. He hold a lot of stuff against me. Even the fact that he was talking to me while I dated someone else. But he knew I was honest but he still acts like Im a flake who holds guys on the side lines blah blah blah. There is actually another guy involved in this too but I spared yall eyes and just left it at the simple point because I don’t know what to do. Even if you cant tell me what to do. Just give me some insight on my crazy lmao. Glen is probably off points alone the best guy ive dated. But past that the technical he stresses me the fuck out lol & I don’t even gotta worry about you cheating. Like if that’s one thing I do know its that I am the apple of his eye. ONLY apple. Lol I haven’t given time to let the change really sink in but with John in the back of my mind Im questioning sometimes what I am fighting for. Am I fighting to still be dissatisfied in the end. and being disgustingly honest. If I do want to reach out to John am I just going to let more and more time go by without talking to him what if someone else takes him? I don’t want my decision to be influenced by anyone other than me and what Glen have going on. I have given a year of my life to him. I do love him. I am in love with him. But I feel like he didn’t MAKE me fall in love I CHOSE it. I feel like Glen is working on making me feel more in love passionately. But I don’t want to waste anymore time I guess is what I am getting at. Glen is not about those games if we aren’t together he will literally never talk to me again. Period. Straight up. I just feel like everything I did to John is what Glen is doing to me. Pressuring me, nagging at me. Putting me in a position that I may not be ready for. Now I see what that can do to a person. It can make you lie, it can make you do things that you may not understand because theres a great person standing in front of you that you don’t want to lose but you also want to be true to yourself. John let me push him and that caused problems in our relationship I couldn’t see then. Now in hindsight I have learned and I see. Pressure makes me resent you. I didn’t think I was asking for too much but when someone has already broke past their comfort and you ask for more and assume they should do more you end up places man. So now with all this new found knowledge about what I think I know now. I just at a loss for what to do . Understand my lesson and let it play out with Glen, because Glen doesn’t see just like I didn’t see how what he does affects me and our relationship. He doesn’t see why I want him to move out and have my own space again. So maybe he will and we will be ok. Or we break up and I use my lesson later. HELPP I’m done talking. I don’t even want to pre read this because its just too much. Hopefully someone answers me.
November 16, 2017 at 5:35 am #178323InkyParticipantHi Jenny Lynn,
John is what I call a Perennial Bachelor. Don’t worry about him finding someone else. He will, he has, and he is. All three women at once, usually. He loves having a harem. He loves that they kind of but not really know about each other. He plays up their birthdays and holidays to keep them around. But they are never his on a day-by-day level.
Glen is the opposite. He is doting, he is there. Unless it’s your birthday or a holiday. Then he forgets/”forgets”. But you can’t quite break up with him because he is there the other 360 days of the year, right???
Both men are giving the women in their lives the message that they aren’t special. It’s an ego thing.
Move out, get your own place (to have! No more moving in with someone!), dump Glen, don’t seek out John, and date someone who is there for you every day INCLUDING holidays.
Best,
Inky
November 16, 2017 at 6:21 am #178331Jenny LynnParticipantHi Inky, I really appreciate the feedback and the time it took for you to read the foolishness above. Your right they’re both kind of egotistical.
Your also probably very right about John I’m sure he hasn’t been twiddling his thumbs under a tree for a year.
Glen just I don’t know. He made me pretty mad last night so I can’t speak on him without being biased in what I say. lol
They’re both a lot, and I guess you are right. BOTH not good for me.
What’s crazy is… giving you the scoop lol… there’s actually one more person involved in this story I left out. He popped back up right before me and John started our relationship and John basically was like don’t talk to him. Then popped back up again after we broke up and I had to stop talking to him again because of Glen. **NEW PERSON INTRO ALERT** we can call him Leo. Leo was basically the first guy I ever really like when I came to college. I didn’t date in highschool so he was the first guy I ever really said I liked and really started talking to.
Leo had issues though his mom died, he lost his scholarship to college as a result of his grades slipping. He went thru a lot and I was always there for him as much as I could but we started to kind of bicker about things and ended up stop being friends or whatever you want to call it. Having expectations of people you shouldn’t usually goes that way. He was emotionally unavailable. It was a huge situationship. But that was after 2 and a half years almost 3. I have know Leo for 6 years now. We didn’t talk for almost 2 years before he basically came to me and apologized for all the things he knew he was wrong in doing when we were friends and in so many words basically told me he loved me.
Leo was kind of always my prince charming back then. when we reconnected distracted with John and Glen I felt I had outgrew him.
He was bringing me gourmet cupcakes and stuff every time I would see him, he was just so nice and different. Pretty sure he was asking me on dates but I was kind of a flake and deflected. Like he had really overcame his demons you know. It was good to see. He sat me down and we talked about what all went on during the time we spent together. He took accountability for his wrongs and how he acted. He told me he really loved me then he just didn’t know how to express it. I was the only person who didn’t leave him. He said that he was even sorry for all that I went through in my relationships since then because if he wasn’t in the head space he was we probably would have been together. He said “I honestly feel like if we had got together we would have never broken up and you wouldn’t have had to go thru all of this” *POST BREAK UP WITH JOHN*
Out of the 6 guys I dated in the 6 years since I have know him (since we really never “dated” ) I can say all of them tangibly did something that was a reason to not talk to them accept Leo. Liar, Cheater, Inconsiderate, etccc…
But pretty sure after I stopped talking to him after Glen he wont be speaking to me ever again lol
But that is a good juicy side bar story.
November 16, 2017 at 8:02 am #178351AnonymousGuestDear Jenny Lynn:
I read all of your share, the original and the latest. I was wondering how your life is outside the relationships, how you feel when you are not in a relationship, how that experience has been for you?
anita
November 16, 2017 at 8:16 am #178355InkyParticipantThat is a juicy side bar! Sure, try Leo out. But keep it light and casual.
Inky
November 16, 2017 at 9:17 am #178359Jenny LynnParticipantAnita,
Outside of my relationships. My life is copacetic.
I would generally acknowledge for the sake of honesty that I am an unhappy person with a mostly good life. Which is sad.
I do have functioning depression which I have came to terms with over the past year or so just within some self reflection and realizing that I enjoy doing nothing a little too much.
In my early 20s I really tried to get over character flaws that may have jolted friendships and relationships I had with people.
Thinking I knew everything, being a better listener, understanding that I make mistakes.
I live and pay my own bills I have a good job for someone my age (24) no kids an okay family. Fantastic friends. I really do have the best friends in the world.
The last time I was truthfully single I would say was in Feb 2014-July 2014 me and Leo had stopped being friends or whatever and it was kinda hard on me and I just was like okay I am going to get my life together. Got on a nice food workout regimen, did some heavy reflection on myself & I lost weight, body was poppin lmao was moderately as happy as a depressed person could be; my friendships were intack and even though I was a little secluded as I sorted stuff out. I was okay.
What’s crazy is a had so little then in my head but got so much accomplished. Now I have a car, more money, I graduated from college and now I feel burdened. When in reality I should be able to turn this life into more because I have more stability to make things happen for myself. Its like I apply unnecessary pressures to myself when the average person would look inward on my life and wonder why or what causes me so much stress.
So 5 months of solitude. This was interrupted by me meeting the guy who I went to dinner with after Glen broke up with me. *NEW PERSON INTRO* we can call him HUNT. I had know him since July 2014 we dated from then till about Oct 2014 it was long distance which made things complex and I was immature then; I think I was 20 so we just let it fizzle out really. But we still really get along I don’t have any issues with him. We enjoy each others company especially since I’ve gotten older. I see him basically once a year when he comes in town for his job and we have dinner and catch up.
But me and him not talking anymore did kind of effect me, I remember actually that’s when I started craving “Boyfriends” even when I shouldn’t have wanted certain people to be that. Because I had actually never been in a spoken “relationship” I felt like something was wrong with me.
At this time though I was the best I ever was really. But I was really down on myself. Body the best ever, my graduation was coming I was a senior. I just couldn’t see the light.
After Hunt…the guy who forgot my birthday wasted my 2015 lol, then I guess I let John pick up where he left off 2016, and now here we are with Glen 2017. smh
Pitful actually when I type it out in my head. lol
November 16, 2017 at 10:30 am #178369AnonymousGuestDear jenny Lynn:
I suppose relationships have been an effective distraction from the discomfort of being alone, that distress. In your relationships there is drama and you tell about those with lots of humor. I suppose when you talk to friends about your relationships they are entertained as well. I was entertained reading parts of your share, the “new person intro” alerts, for one. And so, relationships have done their job distracting and entertaining.
Eventually, that discomfort, that distress will need to be dealt with more thoroughly than so far.
I was wondering, regarding your birthday not being acknowledged, even though it is on a holiday- were your birthdays not acknowledged when you were a child, perhaps one of them, perhaps not as acknowledged as someone else’s, a sibling perhaps. Do you remember how you felt on your birthdays, as a child?
anita
November 16, 2017 at 11:06 am #178385Jenny LynnParticipantHey Anita,
I cant quite iron out if your saying “even though your birthday isn’t a holiday” or “even though IT IS on a holiday”
My birthday is the end of September so no actual holidays occur around it.
But growing up my birthday was never really a special thing. It was “acknowledged” but I never had birthday parties growing up. I think I had one birthday celebration growing up as a child when I was maybe 4. I was too young to remember really; that says the most.
My family usually throws a dollar bill at any issue truthfully . They really don’t care about your feelings. We aren’t rich but we are pretty well to do across the board. So my relatives usually would just give me money, a lot of them wouldn’t call or anything. Even now they don’t. But it was only the ones who I saw often like my Aunt or grandfather.
I don’t have a very close relationship with anyone in my family. It used to be my mom but that has dwindled away over the past 2-3 years. I have a brother we are more tolerable of each other now than ever before in our childhoods. We really used to not care for each others company really. But even though now we mentally are on a different playing field we get along but still rarely ever talk or see each other. I really don’t have a person that I can turn to in my family and be transparent with.
I just kind of felt like my birthday didn’t matter. So when I came to college and my life changed I told myself well shoot if no one else will do it I’ll do it. To most of my friends and people who have gotten to know in college really acknowledge my birthday like its a holiday. My best friends literally take off work from their jobs lol. I always throw a huge party and I hangout with my friends and I go to dinners and maybe get a few gifts. My birthday from 2011-2016 are really some of the best memories I have.
This year I didn’t really celebrate my birthday. That really bothered my mom, to add. Ironic to the fact that she never really helped in the celebrations of my birthdays growing up. She felt like it was because of Glen. You read the above stuff about what went on. He did kind of ruin it…or well better yet I LET HIM.
I just didn’t feel it for some reason. I was like “my birthday is cancelled this year.” I saw my mom to appease her and another friend of mine and that’s it.
My friends were really disappointed when that was my responses to their pre-birthday plan text.
November 16, 2017 at 11:17 am #178389AnonymousGuestDear Jenny Lynn:
I read the beginning of your recent post only. I thought you shared that your birthday happened on a holiday. I was wrong then.
I need to take a break from the computer. Will be back in approximately 16 hours, read the rest of your post and reply then.
anita
November 17, 2017 at 3:03 am #178475AnonymousGuestDear Jenny Lynn:
The following quotes are from your last two posts.
You wrote: “I am an unhappy person with a mostly good life”- that unhappiness is the feeling you had as a child, it is the same feeling. It has nothing to do with your current life circumstances (“I live and pay my own bills I have a good job for someone my age (24) … I have a car, more money, I graduated from college”) and has everything to do with how you felt then. It is sort of a .. base feeling, formed in childhood and it stays with you.
You wrote: “My family… really don’t care about your feelings”- this is a key sentence, says it all. Your feelings are a huge part of who you are. The way you experience life has everything to do with your feelings. When your parents didn’t care about your feelings, didn’t notice, didn’t attend to, didn’t value your feelings, they didn’t notice you; they didn’t value you.
You wrote: “I don’t have a very close relationship with anyone in my family…I really don’t have a person that I can turn to in my family and be transparent with”- understandably.
You wrote: “I do have functioning depression…and now I feel burdened… I apply unnecessary pressures to myself… so much stress…I started craving ‘Boyfriends'”- when a child’s feelings go unnoticed for too long, unattended to, not valued, the child believes there is something wrong with her, that she is not worthy of the attention she so craves.
That craving still exists, the craving for boyfriends. I think that quality psychotherapy will be of great help to you. You can pay for it, since you work, but better idea perhaps, paying for your therapy can be a birthday gift that your mother/parents can give you, an accumulated 24 birthdays gift.
anita
November 17, 2017 at 5:43 am #178501Jenny LynnParticipantHey Anita,
Ya, I do kind of have a lot going on up in my head. I have thought strongly about doing that so I am going to take the steps to look into that.
I think the relationship I am in right now I killing me…slowly.
Its literally 50/50 half the time we are happy and the other half he’s mad. About fucking anything honestly.
But its so sporadic I forget almost. That’s the only word I can think of. Like you were happy for 4 days then mad for 2 then happy for 3 and forget about how ridiculous the past 2 days were dealing with him and his bickering and mood swings…until it happens again.
But I also don’t know why I just cant break myself away from the cycle. I asked him to move out and he is but he’s doing it literally slower than Christmas. I think if I didn’t have to come home to him everyday still I could feel my feelings more genuinely.
I don’t know why it seems like I have a issue not talking to him or dealing with him while he still lives there.
Like if he doesn’t leave for another 7-10 days just walking around like we don’t see each other not talking. Like I’m living with a stranger. I just cant do it. I feel almost an obligation to reach out to him.
I told him he needed to go before we start hating each other and nothing can be done. He didn’t heed that warning I guess.
- This reply was modified 6 years, 11 months ago by Jenny Lynn.
November 17, 2017 at 6:11 am #178505AnonymousGuestDear Jenny Lynn:
What triggers him to change from one mode (4 days or so) then mad (2 days)?
And when he is mad, what is his madness like: what does he say and what does he do?
Can you give an example or two?
anita
November 17, 2017 at 6:31 am #178507Jenny LynnParticipantAnything honestly. Just a mash up of the past 2 days.
I tell him that my friend was going to come over to the house. Ya kno just being courteous and letting him be aware. My friend had to stay at work a little later than they thought though and got hungry so they wanted me to meet them at a restaurant. Which was what they wanted to do originally but I said no because I am saving my money. But they were hungry enough to be like I’ll buy. So I text him and tell him because he was working late and hadn’t communicated with me when he would be home. Its probably about 7:40pm. I have been off since 5 right. So I tell him “Hey I am going to meet Jimmy (Gay BFF) at Griffs. Then we are coming back to the house. I will see you when we get back since your still camping out at work”
GIRL. …Mad
All of a sudden he comes at me like “Damn Aite” and Im just confused. Whats to damn about right? You aren’t even here. So we go back and forth thru text for a minute while I am still trying to get out the house as well to meet my friend. And he on some “Oh well I guess Ill go find something else to do” Blah blah blah. I call him while I was driving and he basically tries to imply (because he knows everything) that I ALWAYS knew we were going to eat I just didn’t say anything. NEGATIVE. I was laying in the bed with a Tshirt on waiting for Jimmy to say he was down stair so I could put pants on. Literally I had no clue but there isn’t any arguing with him. He just says Im talking in circles and he doesn’t want to hear it. So I go to dinner we come back in literally a hour and he isn’t there. I call him he said he went to get something to eat. probably 1-1/2 later I call again he says hes at his moms about to be back. He comes in as Jimmy is leaving around 11pm. He comes in with just a stank attitude. Doesn’t want to give me a hug. When he gets mad he wont hug me or kiss me and stuff.
That night he wanted to argue just picking at anything ya know. Then yesterday just picking and poking at anything to go back and forth about.
Girl. I asked him lastnight if he wanted to meditate with me right. He said yea. I have a Meditation basics app on my phone that teaches you how to meditate so I grab my phone. Hes like “Oh nah! Im not doing that. You don’t need a app. you rely on the internet for everything” Blah blah blah. I’m just taken a back like Im confused. ” Meditation IS A SKILL. You have to learn it! Oh I thought you was going to tell us what to do blah blah. I was like no. I don’t know how that well yet. MEDITATION is a LEARNED SKILLLLL! literally he just didn’t get it. I just got mad it made my anxiety go off the scale because WHY is it that serious.
He slept on the couch smh. Then this morning he didn’t come in the room to tell me he left work work (6am cuz Im still sleep). Anytime were on good terms and usually even on bad sometimes he will come in and say “Im gone” *HUG* *KISS*
Not today tho!
I text him like “Why do I feel you do things purposely to hurt me” He says I don’t—next msg– just like you don’t.
Im like this is literally a big adult game of “I know you are but what am I?”
He does the silent treatment a lot. He’s gotten better about it because I flipped out about it.
He gets mad when he doesn’t feel “special.” or like I didn’t think about him.
Changes in plans REALLLLLY annoys him hence the beginning story. Because I went to dinner with another friend of mine a few days before that and no issue.
He gets mad if I don’t text him back in a certain amount of time (unknown time because it literally depends on his mood) Things I literally have no control over.
He gets really irritated when I miss his phone calls which bothers me because I feel this need to constantly check my phone ya know. Out of my natural want to do it.
His feelings are facts in a nutshell.
November 17, 2017 at 6:49 am #178509AnonymousGuestDear Jenny Lynn:
In your descriptions of his behavior and the interactions between the two of you I don’t see evidence of abuse. I have no idea whether he is unreasonable or more unreasonable than you are.
Your descriptions are simply not informative enough, too entertaining-like, as if…. I am thinking this whole boyfriends thing, relationships, again, reads to me like it is all a distraction, a drama thing that prevents you from feeling the unhappiness you will be left with if undistracted.
So who is moving out from the place you share: is he or are you going to move out? Clear to me that not living together will be a good idea.
anita
November 17, 2017 at 7:55 am #178517Jenny LynnParticipantYea I don’t know really I guess how to put in words because who wants to make the person there with I guess sound like a monster. But yea, sometimes, sporadically when he feels like it or something else has bothered him he is just really mean. Simple as that; as mean as someone can be without hitting me, calling me out my name, or yelling. He is more manipulative than anything. He does a lot of stuff just to get a reaction out of me or to make me sweat. Sometimes it works and other times I don’t feed into it because that’s just stuff I don’t care about. Like him not being there when me and Jimmy got back. I KNOW he did that to make some point. But that just didn’t matter to me. It wasn’t a big deal that your not home when I got home…the bigger issue to me is WHY your not here. Which is what? to teach me a lesson? It makes me feel a way. Like how another WHOLE adult going to for lack of a better word “punish” me. I guess.
He said he was going to move. Most of what’s in our house is mine anyways so it’s just what makes the most sense. Literally his clothes and TV but other than a few miscellaneous items everything is mine.
I told him Oct 30 that I wanted him to move out. You clearly see what day it is. He said originally that Nov 4th he would leave. But he said things were “really good” that week so basically he thought I changed my mind. NOPE. So I reopened the conversation like no I still want my space. He “packed” 85% of his stuff basically over the week or so later. But he hasn’t ACTUALLY MOVED ANTHING.
UNTIL the dinner situation the other night. I came home and noticed that a large majority of the clothes he had packed were now gone. He has been feeling a way since.
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