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  • #422597
    Tammy87
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    Hi

    Was just looking for some perspective on a long term issue I have but haven’t addressed with friend.

    A few years ago , my best friend became friends with a woman who hurt me and bullied me in mid teens. As soon as she met her ( through children ) I told her how she treated me and her response was “that’s horrible!” However she continued to be friends with her and still is.

    my initial reaction was to speak to my friend about how I feel but my family advise me against it , as they don’t want me to experience any drama as the bully in this case is still a social delinquent .

    I try phasing my friend out as I don’t feel the friendship is the same anymore … loss of loyalty and trust for me. I think I just can’t understand why she would want to be friends with her when she knows she hurt me.

    Every now and then I feel guilty for not seeing her and will meet up with her , but then absolutely dread it as I don’t feel the same.

    What I want perspective on is

    a) am I being petty ?

    b) should I accept this and continue the friendship ?

    c) should I just cut off contact and don’t meet again

    d) should I risk drama and just tell her how I feel about it. ( although I don’t think anything positive will come from telling her apart from my peace of mind that I’ve told her how I feel)

    Any advice and thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated

    #422956
    Tammy87
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    Any thoughts anyone ?

    #422957
    Helcat
    Participant

    Hi Tammy

    Apologies, I didn’t see your post before. Sometimes if it has been a busy day things get pushed to the next page and I only tend to check page one. Well done on being proactive and bringing your thread back to the top of the pile as it were 😊

    I’m sorry to hear about the difficulties with your friend.

    Would it be okay to ask for a little more context about how that person bullied you? Please don’t feel the need to share if it makes you feel uncomfortable.

    I don’t think you’re being petty. You have very real feelings about how you were bullied in your teens.

    I think the difficulty is that people tend to believe in change and some time has passed. Perhaps your friend feels like the person who bullied you as a teenager has changed?

    It might sound like a silly question, but what hurts about your friend spending time with someone who used to bully you? Do you feel like your feelings are being devalued? That your friend is prioritising the bully? That your friend isn’t protecting you?

    You mentioned feeling like loyalty and trust were broken. Can I ask about your concerns regarding trust? Do you feel like your friend would treat you differently or pass on gossip?

    It might not be a bad thing to have a conversation with your friend. I think for your peace of mind alone is a good enough reason.

    It really depends on how good a friend they are though.

    Wishing you all the best! 🙏

    #422958
    EvFran
    Participant

    Hi Tammy87,

     

    I’ve been thinking a out your question and I can only say things from my perspective. I understand your pain, I think I would be hurt as well in a similar situation. But you day it happened a few years ago. So if I understand it correctly, you’ve been spending time with your best friend in spite of the fact that she was seeing the bully person.

    Has your vest best friend’s behavior changed since she is seeing Ms. Bully?

    I would talk to my best friend openly and honestly about my feelings and would ask her what she finds so attractive about Ms. Bully. Maybe , now that she has children herself, Ms. Bully has changed during all those years and regrets deeply she had hurt anyone. She might have even forgotten the incident. Who knows. So many things can happen in a few months!

    As I said, this is just my opinion, I am.not in your shoes, so you decide what to do.

    I hope that whatever you decide will be the best for you and for your friendship! Good luck.

     

    #422959
    EvFran
    Participant

    Correct version …’ve been thinking about your question and I can only say things from my perspective. I understand your pain, I think I would be hurt as well in a similar situation. But you say it happened a few years ago. So if I understand it correctly, you’ve been spending time with your best friend in spite of the fact that she was seeing the bully person.

    Has your best best friend’s behavior changed since she was seeing Ms. Bully?

    I would talk to my best friend openly and honestly about my feelings and would ask her what she finds so attractive about Ms. Bully. Maybe , now that she has children herself, Ms. Bully has changed during all those years and regrets deeply that she had hurt anyone. She might have even forgotten the incident. Who knows. So many things can happen in a few months!

    As I said, this is just my opinion, I am not in your shoes, so you decide what to do.

    I hope that whatever you decide will be the best for you and for your friendship! Good luck.

     

    #422961
    Tammy87
    Participant

    Thankyou so much for both replies.

    Would it be okay to ask for a little more context about how that person bullied you?——-
    – threats of violence- threats of spitting in my face when they see me – throwing objects such as  cigarette lighters in public at me – smashing my living room window – starting false rumours that my mum tried to kilL herself – telling other people not to hang out with me. 

    Perhaps your friend feels like the person who bullied you as a teenager has changed?As far as I’ve heard the person hasn’t changed.

    It might sound like a silly question, but what hurts about your friend spending time with someone who used to bully you? Do you feel like your feelings are being devalued? That your friend is prioritising the bully? That your friend isn’t protecting you?

    – yeah I feel like my feelings have been devalued – that they don’t care how that person treated me

    Can I ask about your concerns regarding trust? Do you feel like your friend would treat you differently or pass on gossip?

    – I feel that she will pass on gossip – that she is a secret frenemy as they say

    I have distanced myself from this friend considerably and see them maybe twice a year now due to how I feel. I have told her how I feel about the bully in the past but I haven’t told her how I feel about her spending time with her. Mainly because I don’t want to seem petty and I feel she would gossip and talk about it to other people. I also haven’t spoken to her about it as I don’t think much can be done now. Their children are friends now.

    #422976
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Tammy87:

    I am sorry that you were bullied in your teens, and that your bully- so it seems- never apologized and never offered to make amends to you, such as offering you significant financial compensation.

    In your original post you asked: “a) am I being petty?“- absolutely not! Her bullying was not petty, as in having little or no importance or significance (an online definition of petty).

    You detailed her bullying in your recent post: “threats of violence- threats of spitting in my face when they see me – throwing objects such as  cigarette lighters in public at me…“- these are significant offenses. I can imagine how scary it was for you back then to experience this, and how the effects still linger currently.

    b) should I accept this and continue the friendship?“- my answer: no. You say that the bully is still a bully (and she offered no amends to you), so your… former best friend is a friend and supporter of an unrepentant bully..

    c) should I just cut off contact and don’t meet again?“- yes. Don’t meet unrepentant, active bullies and their supporters.

    d) should I risk drama and just tell her how I feel about it…?…I have distanced myself from this friend considerably and see them maybe twice a year now…I feel she would gossip and talk about it to other people“- I wouldn’t share anything with your former friend any more than I’d share with the bully herself. I’d share nothing with either one.. unless, maybe if the bully apologizes to you and offer to make significant amends for her significant offenses against you.

    anita

    #422995
    EvFran
    Participant
    Dear Tammy87,
    I am sorry to hear about the bully. I didn’t imagine it so bad. It seems that this person is toxic. I fully understand that you feel your feelings have devalued. I would trust my gut feeling. If you don’t trust your best friend any more and you see her much less anyway, then stop seeing her. You don’t even need to explain why. If this causes you so much pain, it’s no use to carry on seeing her.
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