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July 10, 2022 at 1:56 am #403701
Anonymous
InactiveHi Arie
I’m sorry for your loss. Sadly, it’s not the first time I’ve heard of your situation occurring. In fact, it is rather common for cross-cultural relationships. There is a strong drive to marry someone from their own culture that their family approves of. Yet, while living in a different country men still desire sex and relationships.
My guess is that since you wanted to make the marriage legitimate, this pushed him to leave you. This might be difficult to hear, but you have repeatedly asked for the truth and this is often the truth of these situations.
It is important to be very careful to protect yourself from people who try to develop intense relationships very quickly. The motive is frequently not genuine.
Perhaps the bigger question is not why he left. But why you ignored these warning signs which were present from the beginning?
It is important to remember that you were unhappy in this relationship. You previously wrote about being neglected. Perhaps you will learn to protect yourself in romance as a result of this relationship ending?
July 10, 2022 at 10:34 am #403703Anonymous
GuestDear Arie1276:
July 9, 2022 (exactly a month since he left you): “People keep telling me it was too fast, it was only 3 months together. Yes that may all be true… But those 3 months we were each others everything, inseparable basically”.
June 8, 2022 (the day before he left you): “He works long hours We barely see each other. Leaving me here home alone… I cry every day. I’m not happy to be honest. This isn’t a relationship to me. And he seems to put me last instead of making me a priority… he tells me that I’m his love and his everything. I’m beginning not to even believe him anymore“.
July 9, 2022: “People keep telling me it was too fast, it was only 3 months together….. he loved me enough to leave me because he felt he couldn’t provide for me and give me the life I deserve. I will miss him forever” – you make believe that he left you not because he didn’t love you, but because he did love you so much that he had your well-being on his mind, not his. You make believe that his very act of leaving you was an act of love and therefore you will miss him forever.
This kind of make-believe is called Emotional Reasoning: you want to believe that he loves you, so you make believe that he loves you in spite of contradictory evidence.
anita
July 21, 2022 at 1:49 pm #404335Arie1276
ParticipantAnita
He reached out to me again the other day and we keep talking back n forth. He is now in Florida training for his MMA fights and working long hours doing Uber/Lyft. He still keeps saying we can be friends. Why do ex’s want to be friends with the girls they broke up with? Its very confusing for me. I want to get my hopes up but I know if I do , I will be back to I was the first day. He kept asking about my family and how they were, how I was doing in which i was very honest with him about. He asked about my dad’s garden. In which my ex loved to look at. He msgs me everyday. He said he might be coming up to visit , but will stay in a hotel in the city and told me I can go see him there in a few weekends. He was telling me all about his training and about work. I asked him if he was currently dating and he said no and askied if I was. i told him no. He asked why and I told him exactly why and how I still have feelings and loved him. He asked if i missed him and i said yes. And he sent a smile emoji. He asked me if i made lasagna cause that is his favorite thing i made for him. Then he called me mamacita. I don’t know what that means. Then he said he knows he broke my heart but hes working a lot now and if I want we can stay friends. Then i didn’t reply back to him for an over an hour and he msg me asking me why it took so long for me to reply. I was busy. So I am so confused. I want to see him when he comes here . I am not sure how things will turn out when i see him or what will happen. I feel he misses me. I’m just so confused. Part of me wants to believe he will get back together with me and the other part is so confused.
July 21, 2022 at 2:51 pm #404337Anonymous
InactiveHi Arie
I’m really sorry that this is dragging on for you, extending your heartbreak.
My understanding is that he is staying in a different state from you? Has he expressed an interest in moving back? Otherwise it sounds like he wants to establish a casual relationship where he uses you for sex.
It is very easy to be polite and express interest in people’s lives. Personally, I wouldn’t trust his intentions. Because he wants to have sex, doesn’t necessarily mean that he wants to get back together.
July 21, 2022 at 3:18 pm #404340Anonymous
GuestDear Arie1276:
I will be able to read and reply in a few hours. Please keep yourself as calm and rational as you can be, continue to not let yourself be carried away with his friendliness.
anita
July 21, 2022 at 3:48 pm #404342Anonymous
InactiveHi Arie
It occurred to me, that in a traditional relationship (only) 3 months. Hooking up is pretty normal. You’re both really strangers. In my opinion, what made him run was the idea of getting married after 3 months. Would you be open to slowing things down and having a more traditional relationship where you take the time to get to know each other without the pressure of legal commitments at such an early stage?
July 21, 2022 at 6:25 pm #404344Arie1276
ParticipantHi Helcat
He pushed for it. In his culture if man and woman feel right about their love for each other, then why wait. Which is true. But i have been in traditional relationships before this and none led to marriage. I tried to slow it down but then i realized i did truly love this man with all my heart and soul and it felt right. But if he wants to take things slow since we are in different states in which i have no idea how that will work unless he moves back or i move there, then im willing to do that. That is a lot to think about.
July 21, 2022 at 6:28 pm #404345Arie1276
ParticipantAnita
I dont think its all about sex. I will talk to him face to face which is better than text in my opinion. I want to know what his intentions are. He and I have a lot to talk about. He asked me to visit him in florida and to stay with him. It sounds tempting. But i will wait til he comes here in a few weeks. Only time will tell. He still knows i love him very much.
July 21, 2022 at 8:36 pm #404350Anonymous
GuestDear Arie1276:
“I don’t think it’s all about sex“- I am not the member who suggested that it was about sex, or that it was all about sex. But I will not be surprised if sex is part of his interest in friendship with you.
“Why do ex’s want to be friends with the girls they broke up with? Its very confusing for me“- how about asking him, his answer can give you the clarity that you need. I very much dislike being confused, so I take every opportunity to ask questions and gain clarity. Also, it is easy to take advantage of a confused person, so clarity is very important.
“Then he called me mamacita. I don’t know what that means“- it means “little mother” in Spanish.
“I want to get my hopes up but I know if I do , I will be back to I was the first day… He was telling me all about… And he sent a smile emoji. He asked me if I made lasagna cause that is his favorite thing I made for him… Part of me wants to believe he will get back together with me and the other part is so confused“- you have to find out what his motivation is, what is it that he wants from you, or with you before you get invested in any one assumption.
“I will talk to him face to face which is better than text in my opinion. I want to know what his intentions are. He and I have a lot to talk about“- prepare for that conversation, type out questions to ask him, so to become clear about his motivation or motivations..
“He asked me to visit him in Florida and to stay with him. It sounds tempting. But I will wait till he comes here in a few weeks. Only time will tell. He still knows i love him very much“- better you don’t travel to Florida and wait for him to visit you, like you plan to do. I understand that you love him very much, it’s just that you don’t want your love to be used against you. Please post again with any updates or questions.
anita
July 21, 2022 at 11:44 pm #404358Anonymous
InactiveHi Arie
Did he push for legalising the marriage? Or did he only push for the Nikah ceremony which isn’t enforced by law. My understanding is that some men not all, use the Nikah ceremony as religious permission to have sex with an individual.
I agree with Anita about finding out his intentions. Good luck figuring everything out! You do indeed have a lot to think about.
July 22, 2022 at 9:13 am #404361Arie1276
ParticipantHi. Helcat
He was the one pushing nikah which i was taken by surprise . But it wasn’t for sex at all. It was not like that. It was so he could live with me. We did love each other very much. I think he still does . I am so confused . I have never in my life had an ex that wanted to be friends with me except for my ex husband from a previous marriage who i have children with. But yes i will find out what his true intentions are. Who knows, he may be confused himself too.
July 22, 2022 at 9:24 am #404362Arie1276
ParticipantI also wanted to note that legalizing the marriage did not push him away. That was all he talked about. Us getting married and having the wedding and reception at his one friends very nice restaurant and she was all prepared in letting us use her establishment. what pushed him away was that he told me he could not provide for me financially the way he wanted and he felt horrible about it and told me i deserve a better life with someone who can. It was not family or friends i was finally told. It was him who wanted to focus on his mma career and work more and more hours. I had lashed out at him few times about coming home super late and not seeing him except on fridays and sundays . Sometimes he would go out to work on sundays too . I keep thinking about me lashing out at him about it pushed him away. Then I am thinking maybe it wasn’t the reason why. The real reason i think is because of his career, his trainer is in Florida where he wanted to move to. But leaving me the way he did was very immature and cruel. I am still confused, my heart is still heavy, and i still feel empty. Him coming back to visit our city in a few weeks makes me feel anxious because I don’t know what to expect
July 22, 2022 at 10:01 am #404364Anonymous
InactiveHi Arie
Sorry, I think I actually misread something that lead me to falsely believe that he left shortly before the marriage was arranged. I have memory issues and it is hard to keep track sometimes.
It sounds like there is a lot going on. However it turns out, I hope you get some closure.
July 22, 2022 at 11:39 am #404372Anonymous
GuestDear Arie1276:
“what pushed him away was that he told me he could not provide for me financially the way he wanted.. I had lashed out at him few times about coming home super late… I keep thinking about me lashing out at him about it pushed him away… Him coming back to visit our city in a few weeks makes me feel anxious because I don’t know what to expect”- plan for his visit: (1) plan to not lash out at him when he visits no matter what, (2) plan the locations you will be meeting with him, (3) prepare questions to ask him, including questions in regard to what pushed him away.
You can do your planning right here on your thread, if you want.
anita
December 7, 2022 at 8:55 am #411459Arie1276
Participantupdate
Anita,
Since my last post a lot has happened. Within the past months, my ex the one who left me moved to florida. Well he came back. We reunited on August 19th, 2022. He told me he came back for me. He couldn’t stop thinking about me because had too many memories with me and no matter how hard he tried to forget me . He couldn’t. So, that same day we both never wanted to be apart . We got our marriage license and we on Sept. 6th, 2022 in front of a judge. He apologized for everything. We found an apartment closer to the city and moved in together. We set a wedding dinner date 20 days later with all his friends and my family at a nice restaurant. Now here is or was a problem that i did not like. The day of our dinner , we had to go to the air port to pick up a friend of his. He had failed to tell me that his friend was a she and that they had been friends for a few years. I did not like this. She lives in another state. She seemed nice. She is divorced and has several kids. So we were kind enough to set her up in a hotel for the night and take her back to the airport the following morning. My husband failed to tell me that he asked her to come and help with the dinner . We arrived at the restaurant that evening. Everything seemed fine. Guests were arriviing, food was being served. But here is when the problems started. My husband never hardly sat down. He was too concerned about the food being brought out, which i understood. But that was not the problem. The problem was his friend. She kept following him around like a little lost puppy. I was by that point getting irritated. In his culture i guess the groom stands outside greeting guests. So i kept going outside and telling him to come in. She was out there too greeting guests. Few of his male friends were out there and they were all talking. I asked why is everyone out here when you should all be inside. She said it is custom for the groom to greet the guests. I said well shouldn’t I have been informed by all of this? She said my husband should have told me. I said well you all need to come inside because thats where our guests are. Then i turned to her and right infront of his friends outside I said ” Who do you think you are standing out here with my husband when i should be here? Who’s wedding dinner is this? Your’s or mine sweetheart? I suggest you go inside and sit and mind your own business and let me and my husband handle everything. NOT YOU!” His friends mouths dropped and he said ok lets go inside. So she sat beside my mom and did not move the rest of the night. I was fuming. Then he went to check on the food and i followed. My face was beat red. He asked if everything is ok. I said no. I told him I do not like what just had happened and she needs to stay out of everything because right now I am so upset and could cry. He said for me to calm down. Then everything was ok after that. We cut our cake, danced, took pictures and she stayed away. The next morning we picked her up at the hotel and drove her back home to her state . My husband and I got a hotel there in that state becuase we wanted to see some sites. So we stopped at a rest stop and he got out. It was just me and her in the car. She puts her hand on my shoulder and said she and my husband are just friends and for me not to be jealous. I said oh no im not jealous. I just protect what is mine and for her to take her hand off my shoulder. I told her I did not appreciate anything about what happened at our dinner. So he got back in the car. We drove and dropped her off at her place . Then we left and went to our hotel . We stayed for a few days sight seeing and had a nice time and came home. Everything was and is still going great except for a few minor things. We were out and about one day and she happened to call. I heard the conversation. She asked how he was and she has not talked to him in a while . He told her he is out with me. She was asking him to help her find a place for her friend to live in our city. Oh that rattled my nerves right there. I said why is she calling and her asking you to help find a place for her friend is not your problem, thats their problem. And when we got in the car i told him how i felt about her and how it made me feel. I asked him to delete and block her from everything. So when we got home. He handed me his phone and I did just that. I deleted and blocked her from everything , including every social media and emails. I told him when i first met him i deleted all my male friend contacts becuase I want no drama period! He agreed.
So few months passed. I had access to his phone. I went in one night while he was asleep and deleted all these old texts from women before me and blocked all of them and deleted their numbers. He never noticed. He has access to my phone and i hide nothing. I know it was wrong for me to do that. So things have been good . Then he was accessing his phone in front of me and he changed his password. I asked him why. He said “too many ppl know it” I looked at him with a puzzled look. He never answered my question. I told him not to hide anything from me. He said he isn’t. Then i found some texts on his apple watch in his language. I can’t tell if the number is female or male. I tried to translate, but some doesn’t make sense. Am i being over dramatic ? He tells me all the time he loves me and im his world and when we aren’t together he misses me. Why do I feel the way I do? Ive been so hurt and traumatized in the past from men ghosting me, cheating on me, etc and its effecting me even now that Im married to my husband. Do I talk to him about how I feel?
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