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June 7, 2023 at 12:26 pm #419811SereneWolfParticipant
Hey Tee,
my condition is still fluctuating, so I am still looking for something to give me better relief. But not losing hope, soâŚ
Oh Iâm sorry to hear that, But itâs really impressive itâs been a while and youâre still standing strong with hope. Love that. Your strong spirit is helping you for not getting weaker. I hope you feel better soon.
Good â seems she is getting more tame as the time goes by
Yeah but cats doesnât smile like dogs, So Iâm worried if sheâs happy with me lol
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Yeah, sure, sharing intimacy, being vulnerable, opening up when something is bothering us⌠itâs precious to have someone we can do that with, without being judged and ridiculed.
Yup that is REALLY precious
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Yes, I think so too. She is hoping you would come around and start really bonding with her. She is hoping sheâll melt you finally
Well is that her overconfidence or she found some loophole? đ
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Okay, she is taking the conscious riskâŚ
Doctors are good at taking risks you know
What are you craving from her?
Iâm not sure, Itâs been a while since Iâm little vulnerable with someone, Sheâs understanding so we talk about lot of stuff. And yeah, I did have physical cravings for so long. That includes hand holdings to all the way to sleeping together.
I think that women bond quicker emotionally if there is sex involved. So if you keep having sex, sheâll definitely get even more attached, while for you itâs a question, specially since you have attachment issues. But it seems she is willing to take that risk, since she is hoping you might change (or that she might change you)âŚ
Oh I see thatâs interesting, Since women are naturally more emotional thatâs why sex affects them even more, But the thing is that even though I have attachment issues, I do get attached with women even though itâs not only for sex. Otherwise FWB would be easier for me. Because even for sex I need to have at least good level of trust, bond and attraction.
Yeah, maybe itâs like Facebook â you start comparing yourself to other people and start feeling less than⌠so probably LinkedIn is something that triggers your inner critic and makes you feel bad about yourself. Maybe it would be better if you didnât read those success stories, but only the information related to job openingsâŚ
Yes even in Twitter just influencer gurus are everywhere, Do this and change your life, 7 figure income in your 20s and blah blah blah they make it sounds so easy, and be like itâs that easy why youâre not doing it?
Are you still trying to find a completely remote job, so you can work from anywhere?
Yes mam, I have some interviews soon
She tried to calm you (the child) down, so you wouldnât provoke him (the adult)?
I think so yeah
It seems your father wasnât just an emotionally bully, but also potentially a physical bully, and there was a danger of domestic violence. And so your mother did everything to prevent that violence â by basically being obedient and trying to appease him, and also trying to control you and reason with you to be more âmatureâ (even if you were just a child).
Your grandfather was similar in character to him, and I guess your father actually received a similar treatment from his own father, right?
Yes thatâs right
It was only your grandmother (your fatherâs mother?) who warned him and he sort of admitted that it wasnât the right thing to do. After that, has he tried to hit you or your mother again, or that was the only incident?
My fatherâs mother. After that he never tried to hit me or even raise his voice to my mother or me. Like I said only two times it happened but it was traumatic enough for me, Before I was in primary school and I donât even remember it properly, But also that time I raised my voice at him.
Just today Me and my brother talked to him on conference call, He was like you’re both adults you should know things I shouldn’t have to tell you. and I told him clearly that I don’t prefer just assuming things, whatever is it just say things clearly. He’s like no you’re adults you should be aware about this. and the matter was that my grandparents are sick so he be like me and my brother are irrepressible for not knowing to offer for more financial help. I mean we knew that they’re sick but how we’d know that they need more help? and he was like I waited for days that you’d call and offer? I’m like what? Just don’t wait and tell me things like that directly! He was like this is common sense so you should know. Really made me angry đ
But I guess his mindset didnât change much. He thought he can yell at you and bully you as much as he pleases, while you should stay silent and ârespectâ your father. That father is âgodâ and children shouldnât talk back. A very toxic attitude.
YES EXACTLY! He think everything he does is right and it always otherâs fault.
And I guess you didnât want to bow down to him, you didnât want to show respect to him, and thatâs what caused friction. And I guess thatâs why you left home so early?
Since my teenage I was very clear about values that I respect and even at that age lot of things which was âCoolâ for other kids was clearly nonsense for me. So clearly his unfair anger was really irritating for me, And my main reason to left home early was to get freedom and stand up by myself. And sorta tell my father that I donât need your help to take care of myself. I know how to handle things. So thatâs what I did.
Another thing is that when you have that kind toxic person around you donât feel that good you know so I just wanted to leaveâŚ
He was extremely toxic, SereneWolf. He brutally criticized and shamed you for even the slightest mistake. No wonder you got traumatized by that. He expected you to be âgratefulâ for the material stuff that he was providing, while of course you couldnât be grateful when he was putting you down so mercilessly.
Emotional support is much more important for a child than having material abundance. He gave zero emotional support. What you experienced from him was emotional abuse. (In the beginning you said youâre suffering from childhood emotional neglect. Well, this was not neglect, this was emotional abuse.)
Itâs emotional abuse even it happened one or two times?
Who is âtheyâ? Your father and grandfather?
Yes
No wonder you started having issues at school later â it could have been a consequence of the emotional abuse youâve been experiencing at home. You were under so much pressure you couldnât take it any more. It could have even been a way of rebelling too. Sometimes we rebel because we canât bear to be oppressed like that. I guess one way you rebelled was to leave home, but perhaps having issues at school was another way, only subconscious?
Yes it made me so desperate to just earn and live on my own, I didnât wanted to be burden on them. They always made me feel like they did so much for me and it felt like burden to me! So I started working much earlier without even getting my bachelorâs first then I was blaming myself that I didnât focused on my studies like other people otherwise Iâd be more educated nowâŚ
Thatâs great! Maybe the term youâre looking for is self-fulfilling prophecy: you expect good things, and then good things happen to you. And vice versa. In any case, I am glad that youâre more open to praise and that it helps you feel better about yourself.
I searched itâs called experience-dependent neuroplasticity. When we focus on the good, Good happens. Itâs about positive mindset or positive perspective of life
When you heal your inner child and completely dismiss the inner critic⌠but youâre doing great, youâre making progressâŚ
So currently what internal challenges that I have? What do you think?
Maybe the drill sergeant shows up when youâre looking at LinkedIn and start comparing yourself with others? This voice is actually your fatherâs and grandfatherâs voice, because they were always comparing you with others. Itâs great you have Uncle Iroh as the antidote!
Right Iâm just trying to consume less information. Thereâs just too much noise everywhere. In this noise it feels like my own inner voice is getting lost.
Well, one explanation could be that love is not just words (âI love youâ), itâs also deeds â the things we do to show our love and appreciation every day. Okay, Iâve just looked it up, and the first thing that came up in search was an article titled âWhy love is a choice you make every day.â
The article is worth reading, but basically the main point is: âIt may feel easy to find love at first â your hormones are leading the way. Building love, which implies emotional intimacy, may take effort and action.â
From the PsychCentral? I mean like does that mean we should do everything out of love not for the love?
June 12, 2023 at 12:05 am #419964TeeParticipantHi SereneWolf,
Oh Iâm sorry to hear that, But itâs really impressive itâs been a while and youâre still standing strong with hope. Love that. Your strong spirit is helping you for not getting weaker. I hope you feel better soon.
Thanks. It’s a challenge, but I simply have to keep up hope, because otherwise it would become very hard, I’d easily slip into depression. And I need to battle that.
Yeah but cats doesnât smile like dogs, So Iâm worried if sheâs happy with me lol
Haha, cats don’t do anything if they’re not happy – they always put themselves first. So she must be happy đ
Well is that her overconfidence or she found some loophole?
She is hoping she found or will find a loophole in your armor, I guess.
Iâm not sure, Itâs been a while since Iâm little vulnerable with someone, Sheâs understanding so we talk about lot of stuff. And yeah, I did have physical cravings for so long. That includes hand holdings to all the way to sleeping together.
Okay, if you also talk about your own vulnerability, and perhaps your own fears, and she is understanding, that’s good. I guess you appreciate her being understanding and not judging you, right?
But the thing is that even though I have attachment issues, I do get attached with women even though itâs not only for sex. Otherwise FWB would be easier for me. Because even for sex I need to have at least good level of trust, bond and attraction.
I’ve just looked up how FWB is defined. And it doesn’t necessarily exclude emotional bond, but the most significant feature is lack of commitment. You said you have fear of commitment. It also makes you uncomfortable to say “I love you” (or to hear her say it), I guess because it carries a future expectation of a committed relationship. So I guess if there is fear of the future and fear of commitment, even though you’re enjoying things at the moment, I guess that would still be defined as FWB.
From the PsychCentral? I mean like does that mean we should do everything out of love not for the love?
Not sure I understand your question. The article talks about how it’s easy to fall in love, when hormones are high and we might be seeing the person through rose-colored glasses. But once the honeymoon phase is over, we need to make an effort to understand the person, to work on ourselves and our own issues, to not project things on them etc. In that sense, love requires effort.
Yes even in Twitter just influencer gurus are everywhere, Do this and change your life, 7 figure income in your 20s and blah blah blah they make it sounds so easy, and be like itâs that easy why youâre not doing it?
Okay, so try to reduce reading about those mega success stories, because it makes you feel bad about yourself. And it would make most people bad about themselves. It’s the worse when we compare ourselves to others, and that’s exactly what your father and grandfather were doing to you, and now you’re doing it to yourself.
Yes mam, I have some interviews soon
I wish you success!
My fatherâs mother. After that he never tried to hit me or even raise his voice to my mother or me. Like I said only two times it happened but it was traumatic enough for me, Before I was in primary school and I donât even remember it properly, But also that time I raised my voice at him.
Itâs emotional abuse even it happened one or two times?
You mean he tried to hit you and your mother only twice? But I thought he’d get angry with you often and scolded you for even the slightest mistake. You said he made you feel dumb whenever you made a mistake (the minute I make a mistake Iâm dumb). He was also comparing you to other students, telling you you should be grateful for the material support he is providing and why can’t you learn better. He was also having perfectionist expectations on you. All this is emotional abuse, even though he wasn’t physically violent.
I mean, his criticism didn’t happen only twice, right? He wasn’t displeased with you only twice, but it was a common theme, it happened all the time. You grew up feeling not good enough, due to his constant criticism and shaming. That’s emotional abuse, SereneWolf, not emotional neglect.
Just today Me and my brother talked to him on conference call, He was like youâre both adults you should know things I shouldnât have to tell you. and I told him clearly that I donât prefer just assuming things, whatever is it just say things clearly. Heâs like no youâre adults you should be aware about this. and the matter was that my grandparents are sick so he be like me and my brother are irrepressible for not knowing to offer for more financial help. I mean we knew that theyâre sick but how weâd know that they need more help? and he was like I waited for days that youâd call and offer? Iâm like what? Just donât wait and tell me things like that directly! He was like this is common sense so you should know. Really made me angry
Yeah, that’s passive aggression, I’d say. He doesn’t want to say what he needs directly, but is scolding you and your brother for not reading his mind and assuming what he needs. He is making you guilty for something that’s not your fault at all.
YES EXACTLY! He think everything he does is right and it always otherâs fault.
Not willing to take responsibility for one’s actions and always blaming others is a mark of a toxic personality. It seems he is now less “in your face” about his expectations, but still does that indirectly, without saying it out loud, but still you can feel the sting.
Yes it made me so desperate to just earn and live on my own, I didnât wanted to be burden on them. They always made me feel like they did so much for me and it felt like burden to me!
Yes, they (your father and grandfather) made you feel guilty if you brought home anything less than straight As, right? They made themselves into martyrs, while you were the bad, ungrateful son/grandson for disappointing them and “torturing” them like that.
That was putting so much pressure on you. No wonder you felt like a burden – because they made you feel like one. And then you left home, because you didn’t want to be guilt-tripped by them any more, right? You rejected their “nurturance”. You told your father: “I donât need your help to take care of myself. I know how to handle things.” So you were fed up with his guilt tripping and making you feel like a burden. You decided to be on your own. “Self-sufficient” at 16.
But do you see how this “self-sufficiency” is a defense mechanism? It was born out of being blamed all the time, feeling like a burden all the time, and wanting to break free from that. With moving out, you basically told your father “I don’t need anything from you”. But that’s not true – the child always needs support from their parents, both material and emotional. But this was a defense mechanism, because you didn’t want to endure that blame and guilt-tripping any more.
So I started working much earlier without even getting my bachelorâs first then I was blaming myself that I didnât focused on my studies like other people otherwise Iâd be more educated nowâŚ
In order to support yourself, you had to work, and so no wonder that you couldn’t get your bachelor’s degree on time. But then you blamed yourself for not studying enough like other people. Well, now it’s time to stop blaming yourself and understand that leaving home was a self-protection mechanism, born out of despair and not wanting to be abused any more. So instead of blaming yourself, try to find compassion for yourself – for the young boy of 16 who ventured out into the world to support himself, because his family was emotionally so cruel to him. So rejecting. So conditional love.
And congratulate yourself because you’ve managed to get your bachelor’s later on, in spite of working full time, which is always much harder. And now you’re even in the process of getting a master’s degree, if I remember well? So congratulate yourself for all your educational achievements, even if you got them a few years later than planned, due to objective circumstances.
Remember, you’re not lazy and “good for nothing”, but it’s that you needed to work in parallel with studying, which makes you actually a high achiever. Even though your father believes you are “less than”, tell yourself that you are a high achiever and very resilient. Because you made it in spite of the objective difficulties.
I searched itâs called experience-dependent neuroplasticity. When we focus on the good, Good happens. Itâs about positive mindset or positive perspective of life
Oh yes, neuroplasticity is a great thing, because our neural circuits can literally change as we focus on positive things and start having a more positive mindset.
So currently what internal challenges that I have? What do you think?
Well, it seems like you’re still comparing yourself to others in terms of professional success, and are feeling “less than” and that you haven’t achieved enough etc. I hope what I said above might help you put things into perspective and have more empathy for yourself and your life path so far.
Right Iâm just trying to consume less information. Thereâs just too much noise everywhere. In this noise it feels like my own inner voice is getting lost.
Yes, try to focus less on other people’s achievements. Don’t compare yourself to others. We all have our individual stories and our unique challenges. We also all have different lessons to learn in life. You only need to focus on yourself and your own life.
June 13, 2023 at 1:49 am #420050SereneWolfParticipantHeyya Tee,
Iâd easily slip into depression. And I need to battle that.
And youâre fighting this battle very well Tee, Keep it up đ
Haha, cats donât do anything if theyâre not happy â they always put themselves first. So she must be happy
I was wondering, So I have a friend who have 3 cats and her cats are so well behaved and healthy because her mother was around and I guess she taught her kitten to how to get around? But this kitten is like only a month old and she have no idea whatâs going on or how to do things. Thatâs why I have to take care of more than âNormalâ
She is hoping she found or will find a loophole in your armor, I guess.
Hmm she better know how stubborn I am.
Okay, if you also talk about your own vulnerability, and perhaps your own fears, and she is understanding, thatâs good. I guess you appreciate her being understanding and not judging you, right?
Yes I do appreciate that, and Itâs not like we talking everyday but stillâŚ
Iâve just looked up how FWB is defined. And it doesnât necessarily exclude emotional bond, but the most significant feature is lack of commitment. You said you have fear of commitment. It also makes you uncomfortable to say âI love youâ (or to hear her say it), I guess because it carries a future expectation of a committed relationship. So I guess if there is fear of the future and fear of commitment, even though youâre enjoying things at the moment, I guess that would still be defined as FWB.
Hmm I see, Well I guess then itâs my first FWB? Lol đ
And yeah there is fear of commitment there, I accept that, but you know that I donât want to move forward than FWB with this girl, So should I stay put and live in the moment while it last or should I do something else?
Not sure I understand your question. The article talks about how itâs easy to fall in love, when hormones are high and we might be seeing the person through rose-colored glasses. But once the honeymoon phase is over, we need to make an effort to understand the person, to work on ourselves and our own issues, to not project things on them etc. In that sense, love requires effort.
Ah thatâs right and thatâs why lot of young people are like that because most of the people donât like to put real efforts for love. They quit after the honeymoon phase. Iâm also did something similar, Whenever my relationship got complex, I just quit it. Though I did feel like I did put lot of efforts.
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Okay, so try to reduce reading about those mega success stories, because it makes you feel bad about yourself. And it would make most people bad about themselves. Itâs the worse when we compare ourselves to others, and thatâs exactly what your father and grandfather were doing to you, and now youâre doing it to yourself.
Yes youâre right. Iâm not using twitter anymore. I uninstalled it.
I wish you success!
Thanks a lot! đ
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You mean he tried to hit you and your mother only twice? But I thought heâd get angry with you often and scolded you for even the slightest mistake. You said he made you feel dumb whenever you made a mistake (the minute I make a mistake Iâm dumb). He was also comparing you to other students, telling you you should be grateful for the material support he is providing and why canât you learn better. He was also having perfectionist expectations on you. All this is emotional abuse, even though he wasnât physically violent.
I mean, his criticism didnât happen only twice, right? He wasnât displeased with you only twice, but it was a common theme, it happened all the time. You grew up feeling not good enough, due to his constant criticism and shaming. Thatâs emotional abuse, SereneWolf, not emotional neglect.
Ah Okay I see now, so his constant criticism and perfectionist expectations are also count as an emotional abuse. I thought itâs emotional neglect because he didnât care about my emotions or even noticed but I see your point now. I have to talk about this to my therapist as well!
Yeah, thatâs passive aggression, Iâd say. He doesnât want to say what he needs directly, but is scolding you and your brother for not reading his mind and assuming what he needs. He is making you guilty for something thatâs not your fault at all.
Yeah I know right!? I was this close to lose my mind. I mean whatâs problem in just saying clearly?
Not willing to take responsibility for oneâs actions and always blaming others is a mark of a toxic personality. It seems he is now less âin your faceâ about his expectations, but still does that indirectly, without saying it out loud, but still you can feel the sting.
I guess youâre right. How should I save myself from this? Even building boundaries isnât working much. And Iâm aware itâs his problem not mine but it does bother me.
Yes, they (your father and grandfather) made you feel guilty if you brought home anything less than straight As, right? They made themselves into martyrs, while you were the bad, ungrateful son/grandson for disappointing them and âtorturingâ them like that.
That was putting so much pressure on you. No wonder you felt like a burden â because they made you feel like one. And then you left home, because you didnât want to be guilt-tripped by them any more, right? You rejected their ânurturanceâ. You told your father: âI donât need your help to take care of myself. I know how to handle things.â So you were fed up with his guilt tripping and making you feel like a burden. You decided to be on your own. âSelf-sufficientâ at 16.
But do you see how this âself-sufficiencyâ is a defense mechanism? It was born out of being blamed all the time, feeling like a burden all the time, and wanting to break free from that. With moving out, you basically told your father âI donât need anything from youâ. But thatâs not true â the child always needs support from their parents, both material and emotional. But this was a defense mechanism, because you didnât want to endure that blame and guilt-tripping any more.
Yes you understood very well! But after all this you still think I need emotional support of my parents? Because I just started to feel validated without their validation.
So I started working much earlier without even getting my bachelorâs first then I was blaming myself that I didnât focused on my studies like other people otherwise Iâd be more educated nowâŚ
In order to support yourself, you had to work, and so no wonder that you couldnât get your bachelorâs degree on time. But then you blamed yourself for not studying enough like other people. Well, now itâs time to stop blaming yourself and understand that leaving home was a self-protection mechanism, born out of despair and not wanting to be abused any more. So instead of blaming yourself, try to find compassion for yourself â for the young boy of 16 who ventured out into the world to support himself, because his family was emotionally so cruel to him. So rejecting. So conditional love.
And congratulate yourself because youâve managed to get your bachelorâs later on, in spite of working full time, which is always much harder. And now youâre even in the process of getting a masterâs degree, if I remember well? So congratulate yourself for all your educational achievements, even if you got them a few years later than planned, due to objective circumstances.
Remember, youâre not lazy and âgood for nothingâ, but itâs that you needed to work in parallel with studying, which makes you actually a high achiever. Even though your father believes you are âless thanâ, tell yourself that you are a high achiever and very resilient. Because you made it in spite of the objective difficulties.
Wow thatâs powerful! Thanks a lot Tee, Thanks for pointing out and made me more aware about this! And yes I think main reason for all this is that Iâve always been and still blaming myself for everything that happened. Being too much âSelf-sufficientâ like itâs all my responsibility, Like I couldâve done better, even though I was just doing things as per my circumstances. Thatâs why itâs been hard for me find compassion for myself. And yes Iâm indeed a high achiever and very resilient. Thanks again for your positive reminder! I appreciate it đ¤
Oh yes, neuroplasticity is a great thing, because our neural circuits can literally change as we focus on positive things and start having a more positive mindset.
Yes it is!
Well, it seems like youâre still comparing yourself to others in terms of professional success, and are feeling âless thanâ and that you havenât achieved enough etc. I hope what I said above might help you put things into perspective and have more empathy for yourself and your life path so far.
Yes youâre right and yeah what you said is really helpful! I did learned empathy but for others, I think I still have to learn having more empathy and compassion for myself.
Yes, try to focus less on other peopleâs achievements. Donât compare yourself to others. We all have our individual stories and our unique challenges. We also all have different lessons to learn in life. You only need to focus on yourself and your own life.
100% Right!
June 14, 2023 at 8:30 am #420074TeeParticipantHey SereneWolf,
And youâre fighting this battle very well Tee, Keep it up
Thank you, I’ll try my best đ
I was wondering, So I have a friend who have 3 cats and her cats are so well behaved and healthy because her mother was around and I guess she taught her kitten to how to get around? But this kitten is like only a month old and she have no idea whatâs going on or how to do things. Thatâs why I have to take care of more than âNormalâ
I wouldn’t know about that. But I guess you should train her how to use the toilette and stuff like that. I’ve never had a pet, so cannot really give advice on that…
And yeah there is fear of commitment there, I accept that, but you know that I donât want to move forward than FWB with this girl, So should I stay put and live in the moment while it last or should I do something else?
So you are sure that you don’t want this to grow into something long term, possibly even marriage?
Ah thatâs right and thatâs why lot of young people are like that because most of the people donât like to put real efforts for love. They quit after the honeymoon phase. Iâm also did something similar, Whenever my relationship got complex, I just quit it. Though I did feel like I did put lot of efforts.
Well, you did stay for 3 years in a LDR. You put a lot of effort in that relationship, but it wasn’t an equal relationship because you were a bit like a parent figure, telling her what to do and “helping her heal.” If instead of two equal partners, one partner is always in the superior/parental position, and the other is in the role of the child who needs to be guided, encouraged and sometimes scolded – that’s not a healthy relationship. So you were putting a lot of effort in an unhealthy dynamic, and you finally gave up.
However, this relationship is different, because your current girlfriend sounds like your equal. So I see a possibility that this becomes a healthy relationship. But it can’t, if you are afraid of commitment. If you’re setting an expiry date already now, even though things have been fine. I know, she complained about your coldness and made that maneuver with her ex. But she realized it was a stupid thing to do. She chose you still.
Now, you’d need to chose her. I know it’s really hard for you, due to your attachment issues. But I am just saying – I think it would be a worthy effort to work on your fear of commitment, while in the relationship with her. I think making that effort would actually make sense, and it wouldn’t be a waste of time.
So I think this would be my answer to your question: So should I stay put and live in the moment while it last or should I do something else?
Work on your fear of commitment, while staying in the relationship. Don’t stay in that fear forever, without challenging it. That’s my advice.
Yes youâre right. Iâm not using twitter anymore. I uninstalled it.
Good! Great decision!
Ah Okay I see now, so his constant criticism and perfectionist expectations are also count as an emotional abuse. I thought itâs emotional neglect because he didnât care about my emotions or even noticed but I see your point now.
Yes, constant criticism and shaming is actually emotional abuse. It’s actively inflicting a wound on you, telling you how bad and faulty you are. What your mother did was more like emotional neglect, I think, because she tolerated your father’s treatment of you and didn’t protect you from it. She wasn’t actively harming you, but she let your father harm you with his criticism.
Yeah I know right!? I was this close to lose my mind. I mean whatâs problem in just saying clearly?
Maybe this is a silly question but I am not familiar with children’s obligations regarding financing their parents and grandparents. So you said earlier that you have a responsibility to give a certain amount to your parents monthly. Is it because they are not that well off, or it’s a custom in India and adult children are obliged to do it regardless?
I guess youâre right. How should I save myself from this? Even building boundaries isnât working much. And Iâm aware itâs his problem not mine but it does bother me.
I think it bothers you that he is such a person: criticizing, unappreciative, always finds some fault in you. You can’t change him unfortunately. The only thing you can do is to stop believing in his image of you. Stop believing that indeed you are faulty, less than and not good enough. Stop believing what he is believing about you. That’s how you stop being triggered by his attitude.
As for the fact that you have such a father – you’ll have to mourn that, I guess. I am sorry that my mother is like she is, and that we’ll never have a close, loving relationship. She is incapable of that. So I gave it up. My relationship with her is very superficial. It’s sad, but it can’t be more than that – if I want to respect myself and not allow her to hurt me.
Yes you understood very well! But after all this you still think I need emotional support of my parents? Because I just started to feel validated without their validation.
No, you needed their emotional support as a child. It was a crucial need back then and because it wasn’t met, it caused damages (which you are trying to rectify and heal now, as an adult). But you don’t need their emotional support now. Your well-being and emotional health doesn’t depend on it. You can get support elsewhere (in therapy, for example). You can also give yourself the support and validation that you needed from them as a child. In short, you can now become a good parent to yourself.
Which is great news, because you don’t depend on them giving you that emotional support. So even if your father is still judgmental, cold and distant, you can still be okay because your emotional well-being doesn’t depend on him any more.
Wow thatâs powerful! Thanks a lot Tee, Thanks for pointing out and made me more aware about this! And yes I think main reason for all this is that Iâve always been and still blaming myself for everything that happened. Being too much âSelf-sufficientâ like itâs all my responsibility, Like I couldâve done better, even though I was just doing things as per my circumstances. Thatâs why itâs been hard for me find compassion for myself. And yes Iâm indeed a high achiever and very resilient. Thanks again for your positive reminder! I appreciate it
You are most welcome! I am glad you’re seeing now that you are a high achiever and that you did your best, given the circumstances. So yes, try to have more compassion for yourself, appreciate everything you’ve achieved so far and tell yourself that you did a great job. Be Uncle Iroh to yourself, not the heartless drill sergeant…
I did learned empathy but for others, I think I still have to learn having more empathy and compassion for myself.
Yes, that’s one of your major tasks. So now try not to blame yourself for being “late” and “behind schedule”. You’re not late for anything, on the contrary you are below 30 and are the youngest manager in your company. Which is actually the proof that you are very much on time, even ahead of time because others are not as quick as you đ So, chill, and congratulate yourself on a job well done đ
June 21, 2023 at 11:49 am #420229SereneWolfParticipantHey Tee,
Apologies for the late reply, but I haven’t been feeling well. 40% of the workforce has been reduced at the company where I worked, and I was laid off. Now, I’m more anxious than ever to find a job.
I still haven’t heard from the companies where I applied. I don’t know what else I can do now instead of just losing hope…June 21, 2023 at 12:04 pm #420230TeeParticipantHi SereneWolf,
oh I am so sorry đ This is a huge cut back in work force. Do you know what caused it?
Please don’t lose hope, since you are very capable and talented. This is just a temporary setback. You’ll find something else for sure, as you possess managerial skills as well. I know it’s very hard at the moment, but try to stay positive. Remember, you are resilient and have been through tougher situations before.
I hope you’ll hear from the companies you sent your resume to soon. Perhaps you can send some more applications, even for jobs that aren’t remote only – to increase your chances?
June 22, 2023 at 6:36 am #420289SereneWolfParticipantHi Tee,
Do you know what caused it?Well they said it’s for organizational restructure and for budget purposes. But mainly we all think they don’t want to pay to people for “building” or “managing” new services just because it’s working fine now so they think they can save thousands of dollars for few months… So basically, its like the full course meal is ready for them and they going to feed themselves on for few months.
Perhaps you can send some more applications, even for jobs that arenât remote only â to increase your chances?
Well you know I already feel missing out on things and less freedom because I had to go to the office sometimes and wasn’t able to change the cities. Now I don’t want to stuck in the same loop and feel the same way. Like I already feel like I’m getting old, and I haven’t seen this beautiful world enough..
June 22, 2023 at 7:55 am #420291TeeParticipantHi SereneWolf,
So basically, its like the full course meal is ready for them and they going to feed themselves on for few months.
it seems very short-sighted :/ So basically they fired the whole developer team because now the product is out on the market and they don’t need you any more?
Well you know I already feel missing out on things and less freedom because I had to go to the office sometimes and wasnât able to change the cities. Now I donât want to stuck in the same loop and feel the same way.
I thought in case you need money, perhaps you can relax your requirements. But of course, if it’s not such an urgent problem, you don’t need to go back to the system you don’t like…
June 24, 2023 at 5:24 am #420442SereneWolfParticipantHi Tee,
it seems very short-sighted :/ So basically they fired the whole developer team because now the product is out on the market and they donât need you any more?
It is short-sighted for sure! but they are thinking how much money they’re saving for few month, and they only have two dev guys for bug fixing and in Product they only have like support girl. because they don’t want anything new
I thought in case you need money, perhaps you can relax your requirements. But of course, if itâs not such an urgent problem, you donât need to go back to the system you donât like
I mean yeah financal pressure is a real deal and I’m feeling it, but my other persona is rebeling against it like no just get what you want don’t compromise you’re gonna get what you want.
June 24, 2023 at 11:01 pm #420451TeeParticipantHi SereneWolf,
because they donât want anything new
so they don’t want any new development then? Perhaps they believe they’ve got a hit product and they don’t need anything new for at least a year or so?
I mean yeah financal pressure is a real deal and Iâm feeling it, but my other persona is rebeling against it like no just get what you want donât compromise youâre gonna get what you want.
I get you. You want to live your dream, which is being a sort of a digital nomad, right? Because you said you want to explore the world (I already feel like Iâm getting old, and I havenât seen this beautiful world enough). I only wouldn’t agree that you’re getting old, but if you have a clear goal in mind (to work remotely and travel as you please), then by all means, go for it.
If you’re short on money, you can still send applications to some of those less appealing places, and once you get the job at a place you like better, you can simply switch. How do you feel about that?
June 26, 2023 at 6:53 am #420480SereneWolfParticipantOla Tee,
How was your weekend?
I wouldnât know about that. But I guess you should train her how to use the toilette and stuff like that. Iâve never had a pet, so cannot really give advice on thatâŚ
Well actually she ran away yesterday evening âš
So you are sure that you donât want this to grow into something long term, possibly even marriage?
Nope. No marriage
Now, youâd need to chose her. I know itâs really hard for you, due to your attachment issues. But I am just saying â I think it would be a worthy effort to work on your fear of commitment, while in the relationship with her. I think making that effort would actually make sense, and it wouldnât be a waste of time.
So I think this would be my answer to your question:Â So should I stay put and live in the moment while it last or should I do something else?
Work on your fear of commitment, while staying in the relationship. Donât stay in that fear forever, without challenging it. Thatâs my advice.
Well lately I feel like a fraud because sheâs been very supportive with everything thatâs going on and I feel like Iâm using her just for my emotional comfort and physical needs not giving her the love that sheâs craving from me. I literally said this to her on her face because I didnât want any dishonesty, but she was like Iâm just being silly.
Yes, constant criticism and shaming is actually emotional abuse. Itâs actively inflicting a wound on you, telling you how bad and faulty you are. What your mother did was more like emotional neglect, I think, because she tolerated your fatherâs treatment of you and didnât protect you from it. She wasnât actively harming you, but she let your father harm you with his criticism.
Hmm I see I understand now
Maybe this is a silly question but I am not familiar with childrenâs obligations regarding financing their parents and grandparents. So you said earlier that you have a responsibility to give a certain amount to your parents monthly. Is it because they are not that well off, or itâs a custom in India and adult children are obliged to do it regardless?
Well it is more like a custom in India. especially If youâre an older sibling Which I am
As for the fact that you have such a father â youâll have to mourn that, I guess. I am sorry that my mother is like she is, and that weâll never have a close, loving relationship. She is incapable of that. So I gave it up. My relationship with her is very superficial. Itâs sad, but it canât be more than that â if I want to respect myself and not allow her to hurt me.
Yes youâre right and I guess Iâm just not able to easily accept this truth and still hoping that he might change, But we donât know. So I guess thatâs what hard for me
No, you needed their emotional support as a child. It was a crucial need back then and because it wasnât met, it caused damages (which you are trying to rectify and heal now, as an adult). But you donât need their emotional support now. Your well-being and emotional health doesnât depend on it. You can get support elsewhere (in therapy, for example). You can also give yourself the support and validation that you needed from them as a child. In short, you can now become a good parent to yourself.
Yes Iâm trying to be a good parent to myself, Trying to be kinder with myself day to day
So yes, try to have more compassion for yourself, appreciate everything youâve achieved so far and tell yourself that you did a great job. Be Uncle Iroh to yourself, not the heartless drill sergeantâŚ
Yes thatâs what Iâm trying I think being mindful is really helping me a lot, So most of the time when I get negative thoughts my mind tells me not be anxious and worried and appreciate things.
Yes, thatâs one of your major tasks. So now try not to blame yourself for being âlateâ and âbehind scheduleâ. Youâre not late for anything,
Thatâs one of the hardest thing I have to work on I guess, Because Iâm very afraid of getting older and missing out on things, and while meditation I did deep think about this matter like no matter what, we canât do absolutely everything. So just learn JOMO. Joy of missing out. Being present in the moment instead of worrying about future and stuff, Donât compare, Ever one of us have their own unique journey, But not easy at all my rational mind ask me lot of other questions that makes me feel behind
June 26, 2023 at 7:01 am #420481SereneWolfParticipantSo they donât want any new development then? Perhaps they believe theyâve got a hit product and they donât need anything new for at least a year or so?
Yes, I did lot of Market research during development for that so for a while they won’t need even new features for this product.
I only wouldnât agree that youâre getting old, but if you have a clear goal in mind (to work remotely and travel as you please), then by all means, go for it.
I mean only reason is the I have clear goal and that’s why I’m confident about it. Lot of my friends are really compromising like just get wherever you want, But I’m really picky about it. They are scaring me more because of all the layoffs and unemployment rates are getting higher.
If youâre short on money, you can still send applications to some of those less appealing places, and once you get the job at a place you like better, you can simply switch. How do you feel about that?
Yes, I did selected some cities where I can stay little longer so I’m applying for Hybrid roles there as well
June 27, 2023 at 7:44 am #420512TeeParticipantHey SereneWolf,
How was your weekend?
I am a bit better health-wise, so I had a good weekend. I mean, nothing special, but pleasant and mostly pain-free, which is a miracle when it happens.
I am so sorry your new cat ran away đ Perhaps she’ll come back?
Nope. No marriage
Well lately I feel like a fraud because sheâs been very supportive with everything thatâs going on and I feel like Iâm using her just for my emotional comfort and physical needs not giving her the love that sheâs craving from me. I literally said this to her on her face because I didnât want any dishonesty, but she was like Iâm just being silly.
Okay, so you’re determined not to get married. Have you ever talked about the future and topics like marriage and children? What does she say about you wanting to work remotely and possibly moving to a different city? Do you talk about that?
It seems she feels the connection at the moment, as she is comforting you about your job loss and all that. She feels a certain closeness, and I guess that’s why she doesn’t feel that you’re not giving her what she needs. But she did feel it in the past – that’s why she was tempted to go back to her ex. So I guess right now she feels close to you, because you’re open to receiving her love and support. But once you’ll be in a better place and less fragile, she might experience that you’re withdrawing again…
Yes youâre right and I guess Iâm just not able to easily accept this truth and still hoping that he might change, But we donât know. So I guess thatâs what hard for me
Yes, it’s hard to accept that. I too was hoping that my mother would realize that she hurt me and that she didn’t give me the kind of love I needed. But she refused to see it. She still believes she was a good mother and I am an ungrateful daughter.
Yes Iâm trying to be a good parent to myself, Trying to be kinder with myself day to day
Yes thatâs what Iâm trying I think being mindful is really helping me a lot, So most of the time when I get negative thoughts my mind tells me not be anxious and worried and appreciate things.
Great, keep it up!
Thatâs one of the hardest thing I have to work on I guess, Because Iâm very afraid of getting older and missing out on things, and while meditation I did deep think about this matter like no matter what, we canât do absolutely everything. So just learn JOMO. Joy of missing out. Being present in the moment instead of worrying about future and stuff, Donât compare, Ever one of us have their own unique journey,
Oh I didn’t know there is JOMO too, as opposed to FOMO đ But yeah, we can’t do everything and be at more places at one time. Life is about choices, and we choose one thing at the expense of other. Even if this other thing is also good. But still, we need to make choices and omit certain things, because our time and resources are limited. You also omit a lot during sleep, if you think about it, and yet, you need sleep, because those are your biological limits.
But not easy at all my rational mind ask me lot of other questions that makes me feel behind
Are you worried about missing out on travel? Or you’re more worried about being late in your achievements and career success?
Yes, I did lot of Market research during development for that so for a while they wonât need even new features for this product.
Well, they are very short-sighted and stingy, and you shouldn’t be sorry for leaving that company. I hope you’ll find some place where they’ll appreciate people like you more, and not take advantage of them and them toss them away đ
I mean only reason is the I have clear goal and thatâs why Iâm confident about it. Lot of my friends are really compromising like just get wherever you want, But Iâm really picky about it. They are scaring me more because of all the layoffs and unemployment rates are getting higher.
Yeah, I understand that people are rushing to find just anything, because they need the money and the opportunities are shrinking. But if you can afford to wait a little longer, then do it. Don’t fall for the fear that you won’t find anything – because you sure will, if it comes to that. But maybe you’ll have to be less picky, you’ll see about that.
Yes, I did selected some cities where I can stay little longer so Iâm applying for Hybrid roles there as well
Cool, that sounds like a good plan!
July 1, 2023 at 6:43 am #420646SereneWolfParticipantHey Tee,
I am a bit better health-wise, so I had a good weekend. I mean, nothing special, but pleasant and mostly pain-free, which is a miracle when it happens.
Iâm glad to know that. I like that you have very grateful perspective towards this.
I am so sorry your new cat ran away Perhaps sheâll come back?
She still didnât. But Iâm not that much worried like a cat before. Because I donât know I have a feeling that sheâll survive.
Okay, so youâre determined not to get married. Have you ever talked about the future and topics like marriage and children? What does she say about you wanting to work remotely and possibly moving to a different city? Do you talk about that?
I mean she already is well aware about my plans for remote working and moving to different cities and because of her profession she canât do it even if she wants to, and for marriage we both decided to not rush and after that I told her no for a love relationship soâŚ
It seems she feels the connection at the moment, as she is comforting you about your job loss and all that. She feels a certain closeness, and I guess thatâs why she doesnât feel that youâre not giving her what she needs. But she did feel it in the past â thatâs why she was tempted to go back to her ex. So I guess right now she feels close to you, because youâre open to receiving her love and support. But once youâll be in a better place and less fragile, she might experience that youâre withdrawing againâŚ
Hmm I guess youâre right but I donât want her to stuck with me for confusing type of love. She deserves something much more and direct, But she still wants to spend time with me because she may have that hope of finding a way to my heart key.. and because of my career now Iâm focused only on that instead of relationship.
Yes, itâs hard to accept that. I too was hoping that my mother would realize that she hurt me and that she didnât give me the kind of love I needed. But she refused to see it. She still believes she was a good mother and I am an ungrateful daughter.
What? She still believes that she was a good mother and it was your fault?? How? Why?
Oh I didnât know there is JOMO too, as opposed to FOMOÂ But yeah, we canât do everything and be at more places at one time. Life is about choices, and we choose one thing at the expense of other. Even if this other thing is also good. But still, we need to make choices and omit certain things, because our time and resources are limited. You also omit a lot during sleep, if you think about it, and yet, you need sleep, because those are your biological limits.
Yes but the thing is that because I made some bad choices in the past now I have fear that I may make bad choices again and everyone says these years of life are golden years so itâs like break it or make it so later on I donât want to regret that I didnât make good choices⌠I guess itâs also one of the reasons for my low self-esteem. You see what I mean?
Are you worried about missing out on travel? Or youâre more worried about being late in your achievements and career success?
Actually both!
 Well, they are very short-sighted and stingy, and you shouldnât be sorry for leaving that company. I hope youâll find some place where theyâll appreciate people like you more, and not take advantage of them and them toss them away
Yes but companies are really scared of slow economy so theyâre putting money first instead of people.
Yeah, I understand that people are rushing to find just anything, because they need the money and the opportunities are shrinking. But if you can afford to wait a little longer, then do it. Donât fall for the fear that you wonât find anything â because you sure will, if it comes to that. But maybe youâll have to be less picky, youâll see about that.
Right so I started to apply for position that also related to Product Management means much broader and more opportunities⌠and after working like 6 months to 1 year I can start applying for the position that are stronger for PM roles because Letâs hope by then job market would be better? What do you think?
July 2, 2023 at 11:18 pm #420674TeeParticipantHi SereneWolf,
Iâm glad to know that. I like that you have very grateful perspective towards this.
that’s the only way… if I don’t accept the limitations and the hardships, and only focus on the negative, it would be much less bearable. So looking at it with a dose of optimism is the only thing that helps (besides exercise, of course) đ
She still didnât. But Iâm not that much worried like a cat before. Because I donât know I have a feeling that sheâll survive.
Okay, so she’s one sturdy cat and you feel she’s doing fine, wherever she is…
I mean she already is well aware about my plans for remote working and moving to different cities and because of her profession she canât do it even if she wants to, and for marriage we both decided to not rush and after that I told her no for a love relationship soâŚ
Hmm I guess youâre right but I donât want her to stuck with me for confusing type of love. She deserves something much more and direct, But she still wants to spend time with me because she may have that hope of finding a way to my heart key.. and because of my career now Iâm focused only on that instead of relationship.
Yeah, she is probably hoping she can turn you around and make you fall in love with her. I did suggest a few posts ago (before you told me about your job loss) to stay in the relationship but work on your fear of commitment. I understand that right now, finding a new job is a priority and you’re only focusing on that. But do you think you would want to work on your fear of commitment some time down the line, or you want to remain an eternal bachelor, so to speak?
What? She still believes that she was a good mother and it was your fault?? How? Why?
Well yes, because she refuses to admit any fault of her own. It’s easier to blame other people. That’s a hallmark of a toxic person…
Yes but the thing is that because I made some bad choices in the past now I have fear that I may make bad choices again and everyone says these years of life are golden years so itâs like break it or make it so later on I donât want to regret that I didnât make good choices⌠I guess itâs also one of the reasons for my low self-esteem. You see what I mean?
When you say you made some bad choices in the past, I guess you’re talking about dropping out of university and graduating only later? Well, we’ve talked about that before: you did it because you wanted to free yourself from your father’s and grandfather’s guilt-tripping and you wanted to be independent. And so you had to work to support yourself. Which lead to the delay in your studies.
Now if you keep blaming yourself for that, you’ll never be free. Because you graduating a few years later doesn’t mean you’re less capable or less competent. You agreed with me that you’re actually a high achiever and resilient. So please stop telling yourself that old story that you’re a failure and lagging behind. You’re right on time and you can grab the best opportunity, if you keep a positive self-image and stay optimistic.
Actually both!
Well, you’re 29. You’ll be at the prime of your power for at least the next 20 years. So there will be plenty of opportunities for both career success and for traveling. But I guess when you’re caught in that fear (of making mistakes, or missing out), it’s hard to hear the rational arguments. Because I think your FOMO is a part of your inner critic. So it’s something that you’d need to actively defend yourself against and shut down that voice, because it’s a blind alley.
Right so I started to apply for position that also related to Product Management means much broader and more opportunities⌠and after working like 6 months to 1 year I can start applying for the position that are stronger for PM roles because Letâs hope by then job market would be better? What do you think?
I think it’s a smart decision to start applying for a broader range of positions, and then switch after a while to what you really want. As for the job market, I really don’t know, it depends on what sector you’re in. If you’re in IT, it shouldn’t be that affected, although it seems that new product development might be stalling, due to people not having enough money…
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