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July 3, 2018 at 6:05 am #215231CatParticipant
Dear Anita,
I hope this message finds you well.
Yes, I am continuing to do the therapy homework, when I can.
My shifts are 15 hour days – I think I said this. But this involves me waking up at 4, getting ready to leave at 5, catching the buses to get there and start my shift at 7. Working through until 10pm, then catching buses back after. I’ve been fine with doing that routine, its just the next day (like today) that I tend to feel overwhelmed/ running out of time/ lack motivation/ lower self esteem etc.
I am hoping that I get used to my routine and can start having more energy on my days off.
Like today, I woke up around 12/1, and felt too overwhelmed. I am pushing myself to catch up on here, activity diary etc., and then get ready to go swimming with my housemate…. The bad dreams are still happening and don’t help with this.
My aim is to get in to a routine where I am healthy, functioning, working and also doing my hobbies as well.
Cat
July 4, 2018 at 7:27 am #215373AnonymousGuestDear Cat:
This is a very demanding work schedule, two hours of commuting plus a fifteen hour work day.. and you didn’t mention, another two hour commuting, to be home at midnight. No wonder you are overwhelmed as a result. Who wouldn’t be.
My goodness, this is a grueling routine! For as long as you have this routine, I would be extra gentle with myself, taking it easy on myself in any and every way possible, so to preserve my energy and calm, both much needed for this schedule.
Swimming is an excellent idea, as an aerobic stress relieving activity. I do hope the dreams stop.
anita
July 5, 2018 at 7:08 am #215525CatParticipantDear Anita,
Yes it is. I didn’t want to think about it too much, because at the moment it’s something I HAVE to do in order to pay back my debt…. Being off work, and spending time out and being undecided meant that I could only survive through that time by extending my overdraft.. But at least I moved to Bristol in that time!! And I have made progress đ I do the long days only 10 times a month, with days off etc. So I am living for the days off really.
It’s my day off today. It takes me a while to feel awake… A few coffee’s, music etc. It’s 3pm and I’m still in my pjs, but am doing my therapy homework with music on…. Self analysing where this lack of motivation comes from/ lack of self esteem etc etc. I am trying to do my therapy homework in depth and send it off end of today, right now I am writing this and also doing bits and bobs at a time around the house.
With the activity log I was telling you about – the ratings of Achievement: 0-10, Closeness with others 0-10, Enjoyment 0-10 etc. I was thinking of proposing that we could change the scorings to things like ‘self-actualization’, ‘self-esteem’ etc. As those are things I find the hardest I think.
I was at work the other day, out at a meal with the people we support. I went outside for a cigarette and I had an overwhelming sense of grief, guilt and confusion about my family situation. Sometimes it’s so hard, I look to the sky for answers. If I’m honest, sometimes it’s is only knowing that I can come on here and tell you about this/ talk to you about it, that brings me a sense of salvation from that feeling. As I know that there is a t least one person who can understand and relate to me.
Also, I was in bed the other night, and realised that recently I have been forgetting gratitude for my life. And also that maybe it’s not my life or myself that is the problem, but how I relate to my life and myself that needs to change. These are the things I have been thinking about the past couple of days.
Cat
July 5, 2018 at 7:26 am #215529AnonymousGuestDear Cat:
There are eight hours between us, it is morning here, 8 hours earlier than in Bristol. Looking “to the sky for answers”- I very much relate. I looked to the sky for help, salvation… isn’t this how religion started, people looking up to the sky, looking for answers and for help.
I like you initiating changes to your therapy homework. You are an independent thinker, one to initiate, to break the mold, to propose changes. I like that.
The overwhelming feelings, yes, that is a result of biochemical processes in the brain and the rest of our bodies, chemical being released, causing us to feel this or that. Taking slow, deep breaths (while putting aside the cigarette of course) literally slow down the production and/ or release of the distress causing chemicals. Or causes calming chemicals to be produced and released. Better work with our biochemistry for our benefit.
The overwhelming feeling was about your family. When I experience distress regarding a particular person I ask myself: is there something I need to do? If not, I don’t think about it anymore. When you stop thinking about something distressing, the distress doesn’t last long.
Your grueling, long…Â long days are every three days then. Still grueling. My hat is off to you for your dedication to clearing your debt and therefore moving toward better living.
anita
July 7, 2018 at 6:59 am #215771CatParticipantDear Anita,
I hope this message finds you well. It’s 2.44pm in England, Saturday afternoon. The sun is out, and it’s 28 degrees. Very hot!! I’m just on my way out to a carnival in town – street party with lots going on, going to be a great day.
I agree, that is how religion started – people needing an answer for pain maybe? A reason for existence, suffering, life itself etc.
For me – I’m not religious, but I have looked in to different religions. There was a time where I sought solace and salvation at a multi-faith ashram in Wales. I felt I had nothing left – I went to pray, and I went to find answers for it all. It was there that I met my friend Natalie – older British Indian woman. We were the only two women there who weren’t with families. And it turned out that we had pretty similar situations. Both on our own, both with no family, both had hard upbringings. We would often sit up and have talks about life, spirituality etc. It was so lovely to have that connection. We still catch up as well. Still in contact. She actually came to my graduation. The people that I invited to my graduation were my support system: Natalie, an older Indian man called Sam who also helped me a lot on my spiritual path (he does this with a lot of students), and my boyfriend at the time.I had my therapy phone call today, was great. I have more homework to do – filling out a worksheet on values. What’s valuable to me, and what things I can do to ensure that I am meeting my values etc. !! All good stuff. – with the emotions regarding family, I try not to let it impact my present… And remind myself that with my connection with my family, I am never allowed to be myself or put myself first. There is no way that I would be able to grow in to the person that I want to become, and so I am putting that first.
Yes, the day is long….But the days off are SO worth it!! I’m looking at the positives (only way to do it) – bus time = music time/ reading time/ lyric writing time/ solitude time. At work = I’m getting nursing care experience. The residents are lovely. The staff are a good team and work hard. It’s a community. I also get 3 meals at work as well.
Cat
July 7, 2018 at 7:29 am #215777AnonymousGuestDear Cat:
Yes, eight hours ahead. I used to work in Westchester, Southern California (Los Angeles County), loved to go to a market, “Bristol Farms” was its name, tasty prepared food, particularly a shrimp dish I liked. Loved going there.
It is good to have good connections with people and to still be in contact, like the one you have with Natalie.
Reads like you are doing well, good therapy homework assignment, good experience working, positive attitude, well done. I hope you are having a good day in town. I am imagining the carnival going on now, 28 degrees Celsius (not hot, reads to me).
anita
July 22, 2018 at 6:11 am #218093AnonymousGuestDear Cat:
How are you?
anita
July 24, 2018 at 5:50 am #218503CatParticipantDear Anita,
I’ve been meaning to message you for a while – life’s been pretty busy since we last talked. I will try and fill you in thoroughly(!!!)
In response to your last message: How was living in LA? What year was this? A skate punk band I love called FIDLAR are from LA, not sure if you’ve heard of them. When I visited the States, albeit the intense situation(!) I did really love it there. I hope to return one day and experience more.
Wow, that’s cool. Bristol is actually known for its food. Lots and lots of independent markets and shops, freshly grown food, food workshops. Lots of vegetarian and vegan cafes and restaurants. Are you vegetarian or vegan?
In terms of my life… I realise that this is a REALLY important stage in my life, as I’ve realised that I’m growing and maturing… In to someone who is mature, functional, healthy and adult…. This is a new and scary concept for me, as growing up, my parents were two adults who weren’t that at all, and didn’t encourage growth or new changes etc. So I am in the state of looking at the person I’ve been so far, and realising that I don’t need to be attached to that, if that makes sense?
The last time we spoke, I was on my way out… The day didn’t go as planned, as I had a toke on my friends joint, stupidly, and it set off an extreme episode of paranoia. I called one of my friends and was apologising for being a bad friend (in my head I felt like I was a shame to society/ I was different from everyone/ everyone laughed at me/ I was pathetic etc etc. She spoke to me on the phone for a while. My head was so distant from the real world. I had to walk off for ages, go fit by the harbourside by myself, and just wait for the effects to wear off. I distracted myself by sitting by strangers and listening to their conversations and talking to them (something I used to do all the time). I went home that night, slept and luckily returned to my safe place in my head the next morning.
Lesson learnt from this: never ever touch weed again. As it brings out a lot of deep rooted thoughts and feelings that I am trying to uncouth and change already.
In general, life has been good. My friendships with my housemates remain supportive, safe and I feel at home…
There is a potential new guy on the scene. I will call him Toby. Toby added me on Facebook a few months ago, when I was doing promotion work. I remember seeing his profile, and almost feeling like I knew him. This was before the Noel thing. My initial thoughts were: “This guy seems to be my perfect type: bleach blonde hair, grungey, plays guitar etc”. But I had a feeling that he was almost too perfect or too confident or too real, if that makes sense, and I found that intimidating, as I know I could be all those things but wouldn’t want to come across as a faker to someone who was actually doing it.
Anyway, we never spoke. About a month or so a go, I messaged him asking about his IG name. He said that he was hoping to hear from me as he’s been following my posts for a while and agrees with my vibe. We have started talking. He’s a thinker, so we talk about humanity, life, society, thoughts etc. There was subtle attraction mentioned in messages, but not confirmed. We arranged to meet on a Tuesday. He forgot. I gave him a speech about my self worth etc. We both apologised and talked some more, and then we finally met up last Friday.
Toby, in my eyes, is super confident and social, although he says all the time that he has anxiety. I took him to a music exhibition, and he talked the whole time. He can talk for England I swear. We went to the beer emporium afterwards and continued talking. At the end of the night, he said he didn’t want to be soppy, but he was happy with how it had gone, and that I was a fantastic person and that he looked forward to exploring our connection. I went home, and he messaged me the same thing.
We have been messaging since. Again, about my own journey at the moment, and how we see ourselves. He keeps saying he has anxiety – although he comes across as the complete opposite. He also said he thinks he looks like shit, and acts like shit etc. … I’m not sure what to make of that, but I have told him that I am being mindful about our connection, as I don’t want to repeat past mistakes.
By this, I mean – not being too focused on it, not putting everything on to it, and taking it one day at a time. Right now I am just seeing him as a new friend.
One more thing. When we met up, he mentioned this guy called Ethan. MY heart sank. And it turns out it’s one of my exes…. Toby said he’s not friends with Ethan, but his friend is etc. I had to tell Toby how gross Ethan is (because he really is) and Toby said that Ethan randomly gets out porn videos in the middle of conversations – so gross.
With Ethan – I dated him for a few months five years ago. I was going through such a bad time, and this is before I started by spiritual journey. It was drug fuelled and Ethan was nice to me. Ethan would make disgusting jokes, self depricate and a really negative person. The whole group was really. He was very disgusting and had no self-esteem. Looking back, I’m ashamed that I went out with him.
But, it gets worse – Toby is going to start working in the place where Ethan works :'( And I’m really worried that Ethan’s going to talk to him about me, and tell him what I was like at that time. And I’m also worried that Ethan’s negative behaviour is going to run off on Toby, and he’s going to become the same.
I would like to hear your thoughts on all this.
I am going to write another message with more updates.
July 24, 2018 at 6:01 am #218505CatParticipantOk, so more updates:
2 weeks ago, I was on my way to work, and my sister messaged me, saying how things were still really bad đ (abusive relationship, marriage). I think I’ve told you about this before. Anyway, I really can’t have her staying with me in Bristol, because when I’ve tried to help her before she’s been abusive towards me, negative, and nothing is ever good enough. She was like tht over text when I said I didn’t know what more I could do etc. It really threw me off, so I called in to work and said I couldn’t go in.
I went to the centre of town, bought a pack of cigarettes and went to the nearest quiet park space (this is my instant reaction whenever something distressing happens). My new manager called me, and we spoke for an hour about it all .He was really understanding, and gave me the day off to try and fix this situation.
It was that same morning that my Dad text me saying he had a missed call from me and to call him back. I told him that I hadn’t called him and it must’ve been my sister. I asked him if he had spoken to her, and he never replied. My sister text me that day saying she had called them crying down the phone, begging and they hung up on her. She said she received a phonecall from my mum that day, with my mum shouting at her, and that my mum had said that her and me had “made our decision” and that was it.
I would like to know thoughts on this?
I met up with my spirit guide Roy, whos 74, indian man who came to my graduation. We had a walk in the park, and he gave me two books – spiritual living, and one on undoing the ego. We spoke in depth, and I realised that he is part of my soul family. The people who really have been there for me in these distressing times and never been abusive.
I have not heard from my sister since….. I’m not sure there is more else I can do?
I visited one of my friends who lives in the countryside at the weekend. She is happily married, has a dog, and her family come round and visit her all the time, and they do things for her and they are happy to see her happy. When I am in their company, I feel so privileged to be invited in to a family and world that is so loving. We even visited her grandparents.
It pulls on my heartstrings because it makes me feel like that’s the one thing I’ll never have – that feeling of being totally accepted by my family. Or wondering if there is any future? Should I feel guilty when my grandparents die?? I have no idea.
OBviously, its still a worry, and wonder – and I’m confused about my responsibility with this. Would like to hear your thoughts.
Cat xx
July 24, 2018 at 7:22 am #218511AnonymousGuestDear Cat:
Now I know more about the background of Bristol Farms, the market, fond memories. I lived in LA most of my adult life, more than twenty years. Some of it I liked very much but now it is a distant memory, not having been there in the last five years almost. I had so much hope there, when I was in my twenties, a new beginning. But unfortunately, I kept visiting my mother elsewhere, and she visited me and that was my downfall. Any and every progress I made thousands of miles away from her was undone once I spent time with her, which was about a month or two at a time.
I am not a vegetarian or a vegan, although I consumed more raw vegetables, I am thinking, than lots of vegans over the last seven years or so.
Now to what you asked input on:
Regarding the interactions between your sister and parents, you were not present during those and therefore you have no way of knowing what they were. It doesn’t read surprising though that your parents still reject her. That is consistent with their behavior in the past as I remember it to be. But the details, who knows, I don’t know. I wasn’t there and neither were you, nor should you be.
And this is my message to you: nor should you be. No matter how you may care at any one time, there is nothing you can do to help your sister. Learn from the past that you did experience: all your efforts to help her have failed in the past. Neither did she want your help, that was clear. In addition to that, she is sometimes abusive to you. So I would say, keep your distance from her, the greater the distance, the better it is for you. Get close to her and you hurt yourself and you either are of no help to her or you harm her long term.
No contact with your parents is best, for your well-being.
Regarding Toby: it’s safer for you to not develop a physically intimate relationship with him (or with any man), I think. Whatever the relationship is and turns out to be, practice great moderation. Be aware of your tendency to view men in extremes: from best to worst and balance you view of him best you can.
I would believe him when he says he is anxious. His anxiety looks different from others, that is all. If you get to know him better, you will get to know his anxiety as well.
Regarding Ethan, and the fact that the two will be spending time together, let Toby know, if you haven’t so far, that you dated Ethan in the past, when you were a different person than you are now, that it is in the far away and now gone past. You can tell him that you feel uncomfortable about the possibility that the two of them will be talking about you, that you feel anxious about it. Toby told you that he suffers from anxiety- hopefully he will understand yours and assure you, I hope, that such a conversation will not take place.
anita
August 5, 2018 at 1:49 pm #220389CatParticipantDear Anita,
I hope that this message finds you well and in a good place physically, spiritually and emotionally??
As I write this message I’m actually addressing a lot of core beliefs that I have in myself: I am an embarrassment to humanity, People are ashamed to be with me, I am weird, I’m a freak, I’m not cool, Everything I do is wrong, I will never succeed at anything, I will never be as worthy as everyone else, I am small, I am weak, I will never be able to overcome my setbacks, I am lazy, the world is laughing at me, the outside world isn’t real – everyone is pretending.
That’s a massive one: Everyone Is Pretending.
Sometimes I just hide away and get caught up in my thoughts, rather than doing stuff. Excuse me writing them here – it felt like  useful place I could write these things out as well. Sometimes I think that people see me as my worst version of myself, or people know what’s going on in my head. And that makes me extremely paranoid, that everyone knows everything about my life.
Sometimes I worry that some people talk about me behind my back – that sucks.
In response to your earlier message:
With your mother, what progress had you made? And how was it undone after you saw her? I found with my parents, they never allowed me to grow or change as a person which has been really damaging for me.
I havenât had any contact with my parents or sister since. The sad fact is, they see me as the person I donât want to be, they treat me like someone I donât want to be, rather than the person that I want to be. If that makes sense?In terms of TobyâŚ.. A lot has happened these past few weeks. Emotional intensity from both sides. Heâs said a lot of super nice things to me, when drunk. Loads and really opened up. Itâs been complex because he has mental health issues and he drinks a lot. I donât want to go in to full detail, but we both really want each other physically⌠When we fell out I said that I couldnât be the only one working on overcoming insecurities and my past to make it work. When I saw him in person, he addressed this and said that heâs trying to overcome past stuff as well etc.
Itâs all the unknown. I know that I really need to be careful and not put any expectation on this if Iâm honest.
Cat
- This reply was modified 6 years, 3 months ago by Cat.
August 6, 2018 at 6:40 am #220451AnonymousGuestDear Cat:
I am fine, thank you for wondering about how I am doing. You wrote, “Excuse me writing them here”- no reason to apologize because I want to read your thoughts, and glad you post every time you do. “Everyone is Pretending” is one of your core beliefs. Well, I definitely don’t want you to pretend here, so what you truly think and feel is very welcome here.
You wrote about your parents and sister: “they see me… they treat me like someone I don’t want to be, rather than the person that I want to be”. I say, they see you and treat you like someone you are not. When that happens, within the context of such relationships, it is impossible to be yourself, not for long. This is why such relationships are harmful to you.
I can tie this last point to your question for me: “what progress had you made? And how was it undone after you saw her (my mother, that is)?”
Answer: the progress I made was feeling some intoxicating freedom to be something other than how she, my mother, saw me. She saw me as a bad, guilty, shameful thing. Away from her I felt at times free of shame and guilt. When I saw her, visited her or she visited me, the shame and guilt returned big time and I was once again trapped in sickness.
Regarding the core beliefs you mentioned: for a child, her parents are the world, all of humanity. Your parents communicated to you clearly (you were not mistaken0 that you were an embarrassment to them, that they were ashamed to be with you, that you were weird, a freak, not cool, that everything you did was wrong, that you are not as worthy as everyone else, and such. So now, as an adult, you believe that the world, humanity thinks these things of you.
I too believed that I was weird and a freak, what a surprise it was for me to find out recently that I am not a freak, great surprise… I didn’t know. And yet, sometimes every single day, I think, this belief is still activated and I feel the distress involved. Then I remind myself what I learned, that I am not a freak. I talk sense to myself and feel better.
The past keeps getting activated in the present, this is how our brain functions. The good news, Cat, you are not weird, you are not a freak, you are not an embarrassment to humanity.
(If you truly were those things, you wouldn’t feel badly about it. It is the fact that you are not those things, but having been treated as if you were those things, that hurts so much).
Looking forward to read more and more from you!
anita
August 6, 2018 at 6:43 am #220453AnonymousGuestDear Cat:
I didn’t respond to your last share, about Toby. Please share more. I don’t want this relationship to become another bad experience for you (or for him), so pay attention to what is going on, prevent trouble (better than it happening and then try to resolve it).
anita
August 8, 2018 at 1:20 pm #220733CatParticipantDear Anita,
I hope that this message finds you well? I’m at one of these “I need to message Anita” moments.
I’ve had a somewhat relapse today and I am confused about me, myself and my life. I will explain the situation that I am in now at the end of the message, as it most likely links in to my emotional dysfunction as well.In response to your last message:
I am definitely confronting a lot right now, facing a lot of core beliefs and a lot of low self-esteem, fear and apathy I have towards my life. Thank you for allowing me to write them out here and hear your perspective on things, it helps me to see things more clearly.No, I never pretend, but sometimes it can feel like others are pretending… This is when I feel confused.
Yes, they see me as someone that I’m not, and I think growing up I internalised this perception of myself: ugly, a freak, quiet, no friends, invisible, embarassed, ashamed, an outsider, unwanted, depressing, obsessive, uncool. I felt like this all through school. It was only during my teens when I started speaking up, getting in situations, hormonal etc that I began to grow out of this image. I’ve gone through a lot of different stages with how I perceive myself. I think now, I see myself as these things: passionate, wise, attractive, deep, emotional, meaningful, stylish, outspoken, big personality, funny, cheeky, rebellious, spiritual – although there are still some traits that I still see there – uncool, obsessive, outsider.
I definitely relate to the guilt and shame!!! Which is really strange, because only a few days ago I felt strangely clear-minded and free from that old energy. I realised then that most of the problems in my head was that feeling of guilt and shame about my life that had been put on to me by my family. I relate 100%. It’s almost like the grief and shame just become part of my biology-Â as if guilt and shame is the energy that forms my backbone or something. Like it’s always there at the back, does that make sense?? And without it, I feel like I am a free human, and I find life a lot easier.
In my family home, I’ve said this before – I was never given that chance to focus on myself. EVERYTHING revolved around the emotional state of my mother. Everything. It was awful. There would be arguing every day and every night. So much crying, and so many undue punishments. Me and my sister weren’t allowed to be children really or feel safe or at peace in our home. We were constantly reminded that it was their house all the time. My Mum would find faults with everyone and was negative about everything. She would talk about people, and my Dad just put up with it. She would start arguments, not let him do things – like see his family or play guitar etc, and then he would get mad – not be brave enough to stand up to her and then take it out on me and my sister. It almost united them to have a common enemy – us. So messed up, I know. So, so messed up.
I don’t talk to my therapist about past stuff because I’m doing CBT not psychotherapy. But it does help me to have you to open up to stuff about this, as it almost feels like a release. I’ve told you a lot about what my parents were like. Sometimes I get so confused about who I am or what my purpose in life is.
Ok, so current situation… about emotional dysregulation/ work/ escapism – Which links in with the Toby thing:
So, Toby added me on facebook, a few months back. I remember seeing his profile and having a feeling – like he was 100% the person I’d go for, but he looked like he was super confident and a bit arrogant. I found this intimidating, because if I was dating someone, they would eventually see the more darker sides of my life, and it made me worry that I’m not the same as other people my age.
Anyway, I went off facebook for a bit, as I am trying to overcome my addiction to social media. During the breakdown etc. It was maybe 2 months ago that I messaged Toby on instagram, inquiring about his IG name. He replied and said that he’s been hoping to hear from me for a while because he’s followed my stuff for ages and agrees with my vibe. He asked me out for coffee over message. We flirted a tiny bit over message. We finally arranged a day. On the day, I was messaging him and he wasn’t saying anything about meeting up. I was really rude to him, as it triggered my emotional dysfunction. I was really really rude to him over message and gave him a speech about my self-worth. He was like “Woah” etc. I eventually apologised and explained my emotional dysfunction. He replied and said he understood, and said that he came across bad over messages as well. All was forgiven.
We eventually met up, and I took him to an exhibition about music in Bristol. I was nervous, and he was talking non-stop. Literally, non-stop. And I saw him as being super confident. Although he would constantly talk about his anxiety. We had open talks. I mentioned about nearly getting married in Chicago. He told me about his ex, and said it was really bad, that he had a psychosis breakdown, and just said that it was really bad.
We went for a couple drinks after that, and had a good time. At the end of the night he said he felt like his anxiety had reached it’s end, and that he was really happy with how the night had gone. When I got home, he messaged me again and said that he was happy that he’d met me because I’m a fantastic person.
Since that night, we were messaging over instagram. We were messaging about life in general, thoughts about stuff, feelings. General conversation. We were talking about Charlie Brooker and Black Mirror, and I said that I would marry Charlie Brooker for his mind. Toby said he could see that, but that my mind was just as incredible and that I had a body he’d be a fool not to chase. He messaged me lots and lots and lots of compliments. I realised he was doing this when he was drunk. He opened up to me about his mental health as well, and I was giving him advice. When he was drunk, he said that he’d been slack on messaging because he was going through a hard time and he didn’t want me to see him as weak, because he wanted me to want him as much as he wants me.
We were supposed to meet one Sunday, but I had a feeling that I was putting more effort in to it than he was. I messaged him saying how I felt – how he says nice stuff when he’s drunk, and then hardly replies when he’s sober. He messaged back saying that he barely knows me and it’s too heavy. I then replied and stood my ground, and explained that it was his responsibility and that you don’t tell people who you don’t know that well that they “make you feel alive”. (He said this when he was drunk).
The argument again, through me out with emotional dysregulation. I stressed. I cried that Sunday, and then wasn’t able to go in to work on the Monday. On the Monday I messaged him and explained about my emotional dysregulation. He replied saying, he was “wary of this getting too close” and that “he told me about his ex” and that he wasn’t reliable right now, and not sure that would be good, given my condition. I gave him another speech about how I’m not his ex, and that it’s not fair to bring that in to our connection, and also that I can’t be the only person working to overcome insecurities and the past in order to continue with whatever it is we have.
That was on the Monday. We didn’t talk for a couple of days. Then on the Wednesday, last Wednesday, I was at work, and suddenly felt an extreme animal instinct to have sex. Extreme. I message him saying “shall we just get this over and done with, and just fuck”. He replied saying, are you ok? you were upset with me and now we’re here. I said that I didn’t know him very well, he could be anyone. I said that he did wrong by drunk messaging, and I was wrong for over-reacting, and we should just keep it simple – aka just a sexual thing.
I went home, got changed, and then went round his. When I met him he’d just come back from a night out. It was intense. I felt a very very strong urge to have sex with him. We sat and listened to music for a bit, and he was talking non-stop again. He admitted that he felt anxious. We were drinking as well. I started the sex, and at one point he said “I am trying to change by the way”, i said “what?” and he said “in response to your messages, when you said you can’t be the only one overcoming the past and insecurities for this”, i was like “ahhh, i can’t talk about this right now”.
He also said, that when he talks to me he sees the world differently. And we were just staring at each other for ages (haha). It was such good sex, such such good sex. The best I’ve had because I felt super comfortable, and it felt natural. At one point during sex I’m pretty sure that he said “I fucking love you” but really quietly, and I just ignored it.
In the morning, he was more distant. And he went to work, and I went back to mine.
We’ve messaged since, and both said that our sex was great, and that we both would do it again etc. I’ve been messaging him a bit on facebook messenger, but I think it’s bad for me. This is because when he doesn’t reply I worry about the whole thing, and worry that I’m not wanted etc etc. Worry that he’s only using me for sex. Worry that he does this to loads of girls etc etc etc.
I deleted the app from my phone again today.
Also, I had my period last week, and it finished. I woke up today in sheer agony. I was bleeding and it was so painful. I also had constipation. I was on the toilet for ages. It was too painful. I went outside and I was nearly sick as well. I phoned in sick to work. So I was off again. And it was also today that my old manager was going to meet with me and give me a written warning about my attendance…. I’ve been at home today, in bed thinking about all of this. I need to go to doctors tomorrow about my period pain and see if i can have anything to help with that. But also, sometimes it feels like I want to escape my life, so I don’t go to work.
I’m also worried I’m going to get too attached to the Toby thing and ruin the whole thing…. or use it as an escape from my life etc.
So yes, today I’ve just taken time out to try and make sense of everything that’s happening at the moment.
I would like to hear your thoughts on all this,
Cat
August 8, 2018 at 2:43 pm #220737AnonymousGuestDear Cat:
Regarding the first part of your post, you wrote: “It’s almost like the grief and shame just becomes part of my biology- as if guilt and shame is the energy that forms my backbone or something. Like it’s always there at the back, does that make sense???”-
yes, I will edit what you wrote above so to make it more accurate: the grief and shame became your biology, in the form of multiple connections in your brain (neuropathways). Guilt and shame pathways contain thoughts and emotions. When triggered, the emotions (energy- in motion) are activated, and that is the energy you feel. It is always there, in the brain.
Regarding the second part of your post, my first thoughts: do all you can to prevent/ ease the period pain and constipation, seeing a doctor, fiber, water (I like raw low calorie vegetables for water content, such as romaine lettuce, cucumber and such, but it is a personal preference, find out what works for you).
Second thoughts: because of your emotional challenges the best for you, if you are to be in a relationship with a man, would be a calm, sensible, reliable man who functions well. The relationship would still be a challenge, but a healthy relationship would be possible. Toby, like the ones that preceded him about whom you shared, is not that well. So off the bat, the chances for a healthy relationship are small.
Reads to me that he does suffer from anxiety, that is why he talks non stop. The fact that he looks confidence, maybe it is a result of a little bit of drinking that he does before you see him confident (and you don’t know he drank) and before too much drinking that is significant enough that you do notice it.
A good part of what you told him is perceptive and reads true to me, and I suppose he has moments with you too, when he makes sense. Thing is, at least one of you has to make sense and be emotionally reliable consistently.
You felt that animalistic need, understood. You called him, done the deed, reads like a good solution. But then, your thoughts, worries, expectations, tripled by menstrual pain and constipation and next you know, you call in sick to work, get a written warning from work regarding your attendance.
What to do then, is what I ask myself as I type this. I would say attend to these three things in the following priority:
1. Prevent and manage best you can your physical health and comfort, two issues you addressed here are menstrual pain and constipation.
2. Protect your job. Reads to me that even though the work schedule is grueling, it has affected your mental health positively.
3. This new relationship, Toby: prepare yourself for it to end soon. I will explain this odd sounding (?) suggestion. This new relationship needs to be, I believe, your last priority, here, #3. Don’t invest much in it. Invest in #1 and #2 above, instead.
Be okay, best you can, with the idea that this is a very short relationship, soon to be ended. After all, chances are that it will end soon, judging by your prior experience. When you think of him, insert the thought that this will end soon. See it as temporary. If it will turn out long term, let it surprise you when that happens!
When you consider what to do about Toby next, who contacts whom, sex and all, think of it from the ending point of the relationship, not from the beginning point and choose from this perspective, from the ending point.
Let me know what you think of this, maybe consider it, try it.
I will be away from the computer for about 13 hours, hope to read from you when I am back/ at your convenience.
anita
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