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  • #42462
    Barbara
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    Hi everybody,

    Just at a crossroads at the moment, (still ) and have been for ages – and have been procrastinating being ready and able, and willing, to let go of a person who I love. It seems we just don’t see eye to eye, we don’t seem to fit in a loving and aligned way.

    Basically it seems that every time myself and my partner try to make it work, we just cant do it. We both have our negatives on each of our sides, our own ”stuff” so to speak :

    Me – im from a Catholic, firm background, quite controlling house as a child – I seem to carry these traits on although I work hard to get past them. I can be insecure, needy, and I love being with my partner to the point of overkill at times. My Mother was emotionally unavailable and I guess I have been working through the insecurities for years really. I tend to like to know whats going on so that I feel safe, and I like a certain bit of predictability. I find it hard to be around people who are impulsive, and yet I seem to gravitate to them . It is hard for me to figure out whether our lack of alignment exacerbates my neediness, due to his patterns etc. If I was with someone more quiet, reserved, would I be less inclined to get insecure? Would someone who works less and has more time for me lessen my feelings of loneliness? Or is that just my problem !

    Him – he relies on weed to unwind every night, Never ever (maybe once every few months) comes to bed with me at night, stays up unwinding, he works very long hours and his job demands so much, he likes to drink a bit, and he can be aggressive at times, in the way he takes or reacts to my insecurity. He verbally shouts and name calls. I find it lonely to go to bed on my own every night. He sees my insecurity as ‘a disgrace’ He tells me he feels due to my questioning, and my insecure ways, that I will never change. I wont deny that questioning someone is not ok, but sometimes my need for reassurance gets me, and I ask him things to feel like all is ok again. He was adopted, and he grew up in a very tough area of town – whereas my background is the opposite, and my parents are quite conservative.

    I like to read, go for walks, look at nature, I see the beauty in animals to the point it makes me cry ! I like the purity of life, I like to meditate, I like to do art, watch theater etc, I teach kids and I love their simplicity, their laughter. Whereas my partner has very different interests and a totally opposite career as a chef. He often just likes to meet the guys for beers and watch football, or go fishing – nothing wrong with that – but wouldnt it be great to share things together, go to bed at the same time the odd time, feel the closeness. He is restless, and this sense of restlessness is a big part of life. If we have dinner, often he will then be off to see someone, or off to do something, always on the go – whereas I am more likely to want to watch a movie together, or just chill out, go for a walk etc.

    I think at the moment the night routine has the most impact on me – I am sick of going to bed alone, and him waking me at 2 am, after trying to get to sleep. Im tired of the stress, the up and down job, the sense that we both need something more, something different.

    If Im honest im afraid of letting him go – and that he will go and meet a girl who is more tolerant, more able to handle it. For so long Ive said – ”l can keep trying”, but the years and months are passing, and what will it take me to wake up and realise that if it dosent fit, and we cant meet eachothers needs then we should let go. I am afraid that nobody will ever want me – a girl who has insecurities, is a worrier. He is a good listener, and Im afraid ill never meet anyone who understands me.
    Im just lacking the courage to cut the chord.

    Tonight he said we should have split up last time, that he is almost done – so maybe I should hear his ”im done”, and let him go, instead of sweeping all of this under the carpet. I feel there must be better to come, but how do I know that, maybe there isnt ! In therapy I was told we have to work on relationships, and she told me I will always find intimacy hard due to my childhood. But how much is my stuff, and how much is just the relationship and him.

    I have been self nurturing as much as I can, but his night patterns have me tired, and Im teaching kids and I need to sleep ! Thank God for meditation, as it keeps me steady, and my job. But I have kind of felt isolated, and I did think of going to the doctor to get a calming tablet or something, as it gets hard sometimes. I have one really good friend and we go out and have fun together, so thank god for her, as most of my friends are married and are busy.

    Perhaps I have to leap and just do it. Whats meant won’t pass you, as the Irish say ! If you love someone let them go – and I do love him, but I feel we just dont fit. Ive tried for so long to fit into it, and he has too, but it seems impossible. The word alignment keeps coming to me. And that fact that I have always chosen men who arent really a good fit for me, but I rush in headlong like a bull in a china shop.

    Perhaps its time admit defeat. I just dread the pain, the absence, the longing, the cravings, the sick stomach. Procrastinating is what im doing really I think, but I wouldnt wish it on anyone to have to let go. Its just so hard to really let a person go from your life, when you know they are a good person, but they just have their own path, their own ways, and you just cant seem to meet in the middle.

    Warmth and Kind Regards,
    Barbs.

    #42473
    Matt
    Participant

    Barbs,

    I’m sorry for the painfulness, and admire your courage at looking so directly at your pieces. I noticed a remarkable change from your previous posts, in that you really are looking at it from your side, and trying to find a path you enjoy. What came to heart as I read your words is an intertwining of three components. Your love, your desires, and the intimacy the two of you share.

    Perhaps you have looked deeply enough that you can see there is almost no intimacy between you two. You have love for him, and that love perhaps tries to ignore how little you actually get back from him. As though the feelings of warmth inside your chest somehow make up for the fact that he is cold and distant.

    The way you painted it in your post, it doesn’t seem like you’re just an insecure person… rather you feel insecure in the love that you share, perhaps because you wisely know that his investment is next to nothing. You deserve an intimacy where your partner comes to the plate and makes an investment. For instance, my wife and I both feel insecure sometimes, and rather than throwing it in each other’s face, we soothe. There is always an unsettled feeling that can arise in the most stable intimacies when conditions of change present themselves.

    That being said, it seems to me as though you’ve gone through a lot of growth, and now instead of stressing over him not changing to fit your plan, you’re seeing how his actions don’t promote intimacy. It brings a vision of you two in a boat, and you’re bailing water and patching holes frantically, while he is drilling holes, blaming you for the sinking and then the coup d’état, making fun of you for being tired.

    If you examine your fears over what the breakup will mean, it seems like a mix of grief and addiction. Replace “breaking up with him” with “quitting smoking” and its a remarkable match. As scary as it might be, if the tower is burning, we jump. To stay only delays the inevitable, makes jumping that much harder. Namaste, I hope you find peace and light. Oh, and perhaps ask yourself… if you were seeing signs of genuine intimacy (sleeping together, warm affection, honoring each other feelings) do you think you’d feel as insecure? Said differently, maybe the reason you feel insecure is because you’re not safe?

    With warmth,
    Matt

    #42825
    Barbara
    Participant

    Thanks so much Matt, many warm wishes, and sorry for the late reply.

    Yes I have to really assess my situation and take action one way or the other.

    Its strange, because he has really been making an effort in the last couple of weeks, but just as soon as things settle, and all seems well – I get the need to question him about something, be it ”are you watching porn”, or anything, usually based on checking up on him, or monitoring him. And mabe that comes from an inner feeling that Im not safe in this – emotionally, in myself, and for my needs to be met.

    Im beginning to think I sabotage the relationship, because deep down I really dont believe in him fully, and I don’t believe he can step up enough. I want somebody to be really present, really trying to be the best they can be, and we seem to block eachother from true and easy intimacy (but again, im trying to decipher which is my need to control, and which are ordinary needs in a relationship )

    I kind of wish someone could get inside my head and tell me if it is ”just me”, or are there reasons that most people would bolt for the door.

    He is not a bad guy, but he is stressed with all that we have been through, and in transition in his own life : his career demands so much, and the time he has is so sparse to give. He tries to balance it all, but he just cant seem to manage it – and himself says that maybe he is not able to have a relationship, as his chef job is so all – consuming, I actually feel sorry for him, as he has a kind heart – although he doesn’t always control his responses ( he hates my questioning and will talk to me for a while, but will get angry as the conversation goes on if he feels accused ) I think I feel that he has reached a point where his patience is gone, and this merely makes me feel like giving up too then.

    They say love means accepting people as they are, and if you cant – you have to move on. I think for both of us, this is really hard to do, but we cant fully accept each other, and we want to change each other. Which, from all the things I have read, will never make for a peaceful relationship.

    I often wish we could really just accept each other, and I think we really try to ! But it never takes long for things to get heated again, and then we start the roundabout again !

    I just need to get the courage, and the strength to let him go if thats what has to be done. Despite our differences I do love him. My Birthday is on Saturday week – and I wanted to get it sorted by then !! But I guess life isn’t always run on a timetable.

    Thanks so much Matt,
    Namaste, and many blessings to you,

    Barbs.

    #42827
    Deanna
    Participant

    Barbara,

    It sounds like I could have written this post myself based on your feelings and insecurities. I’m the exact same way and treat my new husband the same way. I’m also asking who he is texting, or who is calling, etc. Is it because I don’t fully trust him?? Probably but I think it’s also because I’m afraid to trust. I’m afraid to be happy. I’m afraid to let him in. I’ve been hurt and let down so much in the past that if I let him in, if I let him get close to my heart, he’ll break it like everyone else has. As soon as we start getting happy, I find a way to start a fight and sabotage what we have going.

    We have only been married 2 months tomorrow but sometimes it feels like a lifetime already. 🙁 But he has vowed to help me through my troubled past (read the “Letting Go” thread for that detail. I’m just hoping he means it.

    If you ever need to talk just let me know…I can always use someone that thinks like me to bounce ideas off of.

    Things will improve (at least that’s what I keep telling myself.)

    Deanna

    #42829
    Matt
    Participant

    Barbs,

    Trust is difficult to regain once it has been bruised badly. Old habits are always lurking, ready to jump out and grab our attention. We’ll never be perfect (what does that mean anyway) and future moments of pain are nearly inevitable. Is that OK? You are a strong woman, Barb, and no matter which path you walk, joy will be available. Its OK to accept that trust takes time to rebuild. Its OK to accept that you don’t want to take that time, or that perhaps you really aren’t safe. Its between you and your heart, what you want.

    One thing that helped a friend of mine was to take time to look at how our partner’s side of the reoccurring “roundabout” is from their suffering, their fear, their confusion. It can soften the impact of it to see clearly, directly. You both get sucked in and spin, neither one of you really “starts it”. The real question becomes do you feel both of you are invested in the noble effort it takes to disentangle?

    Namaste, sister.

    With warmth,
    Matt

    #42842
    Barbara
    Participant

    Hi Deanna and Matt,

    Yes – all very much food for thought, and thank you both for your replies.

    Deanna, I hope you stay strong. It sounds like you have indeed been hurt before, and at least you guys are trying to talk, communicate, and to work together.

    Yes Matt, It is something only I can figure out, and work through, and I thank you from the heart, for your response. Much reflection and meditation to do !

    Goodnight friends,
    Warm wishes,
    Barbs.

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