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  • #97505
    M
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    Ok, I have a question for you all. I am aware that each relationship is unique, but still, there’s something that’s been bothering me. English is not my first language, but I’ll try and do my best!

    We are living in a time that things happen way too fast. We have all the information that we want literally at the palm of our hands and we can access it anytime we want to. The way we work, study and live is changing, and it’s happening fast.
    So, I’ve been thinking that we are being taught to “let things go” too much specially with relationships, if something doesn’t work out with someone that’s ok, let’s move on to the next one and luckily we have Tinder, Happen, we have datings sites and apps that makes it all easier and faster.

    But… what if we eventually meet someone that makes us want to wait/”fight” for them? It seems to me that it’s almost wrong because we are expected to always “let go and move on”. Has it always been like this?

    See, I’m not saying that we should obsess over people or that it’s wrong to let go (in fact, this is one of the best things I learned in my life, how to let go and give up on control), but I really want to know your opinions on this. 🙂

    #97574
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear M:

    I am not one of the generation that grew up with the internet and wish I had. As to your question about waiting and fighting for a potential mate vs letting go and moving on:

    It depends. Fighting for another is okay if he or she is fighting too and you and him or her are on the same side of the fighting. Waiting for someone is okay if we know who it is we are waiting for, not wishing and hoping but knowing who it is…

    Knowing the person we fight for or wait for… knowing he/she is ..solid in liquid times.

    anita

    #97592
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    M,

    Thank you for posting, as it was quite refreshing to read.

    Growing up as a child, in my generation we did not have computers, cell phones ect. My older brother had a Sega and a nintendo but even then, I didn’t really play with it. As a child I loved playing outside! Myself and the kids in our community loved playing sports outside in the grass, running around the complex, exploring/going on adventures. Playing board games. Now that was the life as a child that I so dearly loved.

    Anyway-

    “We are living in a time that things happen way too fast. We have all the information that we want literally at the palm of our hands and we can access it anytime we want to. The way we work, study and live is changing, and it’s happening fast.
    So, I’ve been thinking that we are being taught to “let things go” too much specially with relationships, if something doesn’t work out with someone that’s ok, let’s move on to the next one and luckily we have Tinder, Happen, we have datings sites and apps that makes it all easier and faster.”

    I absolutely agree! I’m def not ok with Tinder. Dating sites well, I tried years ago and it was NOT for me, I tried twice and it was just not my style.

    “But
 what if we eventually meet someone that makes us want to wait/”fight” for them? It seems to me that it’s almost wrong because we are expected to always “let go and move on”. Has it always been like this?”

    I know the feeling and I am the same way. Once I love someone and they love me, I don’t want to be with anybody else. My belief is that anybody who fights for you, searches for you, refuses to give up on you, believes in you, is ALWAYS worth fighting for. that just tells you how much they truly love you. Waiting can be ok up to certain but eventually the couple needs to come together and make a life together. Not living apart. True love is true love, I have proven through the test of time my true love for my future wife. <3 Hope that helps in regards to your post. 🙂

    Elle Tinker.

    Let me know what you think about this. Enjoy! 🙂

    Pour Que Tu M’Aimes Encore By Celine Dion

    English translation – So That You Love Me Still

    I understood all the words, I understood, thank you.
    They were new and made sense, that’s why here
    Things have changed, and the flowers have wilted
    That’s why the past was the past
    That’s why, if everything changes and wears out, then loves also fade away

    You should know
    I’ll look for your heart if you take it somewhere else
    Even if when you dance, others are dancing with you
    I’ll look for your soul in the cold, in the flame
    I’ll cast a spell on you, so that you love me still

    You shouldn’t have started, attracted me, touched me
    I shouldn’t have given so much, I don’t know how to play
    People tell me that today, they tell me that’s how other women do things
    I’m not other women
    Before we get too close, before we throw it away

    You should know
    I’ll look for your heart if you take it somewhere else
    Even if when you dance, others are dancing with you
    I’ll look for your soul in the cold, in the flame
    I’ll cast a spell on you, so that you love me still

    I’ll find other languages to sing your praises
    I’ll pack our bags for the fields of eternal harvests
    I’ll say those magic words spoken by African healers
    I’ll say them with no regrets, so that you love me still

    I’ll make myself a queen so that you don’t leave me
    I’ll make myself new so the fire starts again
    I’ll become like those other women who make you happy
    Your games will be our games, if that’s what you desire
    I’ll make myself brighter, more beautiful, to rekindle the spark
    I’ll turn myself to gold, so that you love me still

    #97603
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    These are also one of my very favorites too, that I hope you’ll enjoy or at least like the lyrics.

    #97608
    TriangleSun
    Participant

    There is no courtship anymore. Women are sleeping their way through dozens of “relationships” until they realize it’s too late to have kids. Men are simply using this in their favor and never commit to anything. They waste a good woman’s 20s and then ditch them in search of more sex. Why buy the cow if you already have milk? In the midst of all of this there is this whole notion of letting go everything. Just forget and move on. Don’t think about it. Just let go. We’re basically becoming this society where abandonment and detachment is the way to fix anything. Because why hold on to something or someone when the next best thing that you’ll probably also abandon is a click away. Things do happen fast but people rarely connect and when they do they connect for all the wrong reasons and with the wrong people.

    PS
    ElleTinker700, I’m glad you decided to come back 🙂

    #97614
    Inky
    Participant

    OH, Elle Tinker!!

    Those lyrics remind me of a short story I wrote.

    Of a woman who changed herself SO MUCH so her Beloved would love her. To the point where he didn’t recognize who she was.

    She secretly, magically became Size 2, blonde haired, beautiful and famous with a different name. He falls in love with this new “stranger”.

    BUT everyone wants ultimately to be loved for THEM!! Right???

    So five years into the relationship she had G-r-a-d-u-a-l-l-y changed to a Size 6 red head who was only regionally well known. And changed part of her new name back to the old name. And some of the things that were turn offs from her old identity were now seen as “quirks” in her personality which were “OK” because he loved her.

    Finally ten years later she is now Size 12 with black hair and fully her original self (and not beautiful or famous). She’s all “It was Me the Whole Time” and now YES, he loves her. But she had to trick him in the beginning to FIRST make him love “her” so he could eventually learn to love HER.

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    #97649
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hi Inky,

    Funny because I always loved that french song since I was kid but never really new the entire english translation up until recently. When they broadcasted Celine’s husband Rene’s funeral, they played all of his favorite songs she sang throughout the years. I can agree that the french song/lyrics seems really desperate but I really love how she sings this song, set aside the emotional lyrics. I obviously didn’t write this song so, it’s not a bad reflection upon me lol. Unfortunately or fortunately for superstars, they make tons of money off of love songs like the first one above. Can’t say that I agree with the lyrics but I do get the message. I will say, who ever did write it, made a ton of money since Celine Dion’s The French Album was a hit.
    The music industry know’s songs like that sells albums lol. C’est La Vie 🙂

    “So five years into the relationship she had G-r-a-d-u-a-l-l-y changed to a Size 6 red head who was only regionally well known. And changed part of her new name back to the old name. And some of the things that were turn offs from her old identity were now seen as “quirks” in her personality which were “OK” because he loved her.

    Finally ten years later she is now Size 12 with black hair and fully her original self (and not beautiful or famous). She’s all “It was Me the Whole Time” and now YES, he loves her. But she had to trick him in the beginning to FIRST make him love “her” so he could eventually learn to love HER.”

    Yeah… I understand what you’re saying respectfully. People tend to change their hair color, cut their hair differently, some women shave it all off lol because their styles change. People change as they get older and mature, women mature a lot faster than men by the end of their 20’s. I mean when I was in my early 20’s I was a blonde for 6 years because I truly enjoyed it. What started from highlights back when I was 20 years old, gradually went to more and more highlights as the years progressed. So I got blonder and blonder. As I got into my late 20’s I was done spending 4 hours in the salon and with the up-keep. Didn’t want to spend anymore money highlighting my hair. Some people go the extreme and some just like trying new styles with their hair color/length. As far as dress size, that can naturally change for some women as they get older, nothing wrong with that as long as the person is happy & comfortable with themselves. 🙂

    Love is love. <3

    #97692
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Triangle Sun, sorry I didn’t respond to you earlier, I’m just now seeing your comment. I apologize. We will see how this works out since there’s only 1 more strike left here. I got reported 2 weeks ago, which was very odd but anyway I would like to respond.

    “There is no courtship anymore. Women are sleeping their way through dozens of “relationships” until they realize it’s too late to have kids. Men are simply using this in their favor and never commit to anything. They waste a good woman’s 20s and then ditch them in search of more sex. Why buy the cow if you already have milk? In the midst of all of this there is this whole notion of letting go everything. Just forget and move on. Don’t think about it. Just let go. We’re basically becoming this society where abandonment and detachment is the way to fix anything. Because why hold on to something or someone when the next best thing that you’ll probably also abandon is a click away. Things do happen fast but people rarely connect and when they do they connect for all the wrong reasons and with the wrong people.”

    I have to say in response to – “Women are sleeping their way through dozens of “relationships” until they realize it’s too late to have kids.”

    There are women that do behave in that way, have children without being married first and just continue to date just anyone and sleep around. Which is really sad. There’s something very wrong with anyone who freely gives their body away. That is my opinion anyway. Now, not ALL women are like that, as there are many of us who don’t believe in sleeping around. I have high morals, in regards to sleeping in bed with another woman. I for one, have to know a person a really long time and be 100% in love, to have sex with another woman/share my body with her. I dated someone briefly years ago (4 months) and luckily we hadn’t slept with each other yet because she almost killed me in California, trying to push me out of her truck because she was bitter with me because I kindly told her the day before that things were not going to work out between us. There were many good reasons why I had decided to tell her that. 1. She asked me and I was honest with her. 2. She hated my job schedule 3. She was doing things behind my back and I forgave her already twice for that. All the red flags were popping up in my face so quickly in knowing her, luckily I got out at the time before something really bad happened to me.

    Anyway, you get what I’m saying… I just don’t give myself away easily to ANYONE.

    Hope you are well Triangle sun. Have a great day or evening wherever you are.

    M.

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