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    jon kirkham
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    Sometimes my emotions and feelings do cloud my mind, well it’s a general thing for all of us. The trouble I have is the intensity of the emotions. Sometimes we revert back to being a child. And there are situations/scenarios where this can be seen as inappropriate. Reacting negatively towards a person when they’re just as vulnerable as you. Domino effect. Makes the situation a lot worse and continues building the emotions and feelings which do shadow the positivity of the situation too. This is 1 of my worst aspects.

    Recently me and the love of my life split up. She has a higher than average iq. And handles her emotions very well, except when it concerns me. I affect her emotions intensely. Highs and lows. Both me and her mum have this affect on her. Everybody else can react and she can calm and sooth herself and the other person. But me and her mum make it too intense for her. And I make it intense for myself in the process.

    Anyway we split and wnet our seperate ways. However because I love her more deeply than I’ve loved myself or anybody else, I persevered with expressing this to her via emails and txts and even talking over the phone. I managed to calm us both. I went on a weekend trip to Snowdon and totally vacated the negative emotions from my mind and restructured it with all the positives and broader aspects that are related to meaningful love. When I came back we arranged to go on a date. I had never organised or planned anything for us before this. We started a couple of years ago and I’ve battled fear and anxiety stemming from my past. Letting go of the past and venturing out of my comfort zone and creating closer to the life I want. But I still have a vast amount of baggage when it comes to my emotions and feelings. I react in the moment at times.

    But our date was more than brilliant. She actually held onto me and kissed me. And this continued and progressed throughtout the date. Intensity was a hit too much for me towards the end. I kissed our connection and wanted to jump ahead and continue building more together. End of the date and I’m cycling home and I’m feeling very positive. We even arranged to meet for a casual walk and talk session. Because we did something we hadn’t covered much in our couple of years being together; having serious and meaningful conversations relating to what we had done, what we want to do and just general grown up life relating aspects. And we were going to continue with this in 2 days time. However the intensity of the day itself caused me physical pain from a buildup of excitement and strong arousal from all of the holding and kissing. Not lust. Just intimate connection that does stimulate. And the day after I met up with some new people. Part of me venturing out of my comfort zone and “feel the fear and do it anyway” approach. And it was good. Some meaningful personal conversations with strangers sharing life stories and experiences. But it wore me to the point of where I couldn’t talk or think. Drained. As I’m an introvert I maxed my mental energy. And the next day was our walk and talk session…

    Straight away I was negative. I didn’t organise my time very well. And wasn’t happy with where we were meeting. My intial plan for meeting along the river and going for lunch was ruined because I didn’t arrange my time. So no lunch and no river meet. I found it difficult to see past this. Combined with her being honest and saying she didn’t have a great deal of energy and ny initial plan of playing squash to release some built up physical tension also wasn’t going to work. And she had a tennis match the next day so wanted to save as much energy as possible for that. And I struggled to see past how she was choosing her tennis over something new and different for us. I couldn’t hold onto the positives of us being out together and progressing together. So I reacted like a child not being able to get his own way. And closed off. Domino effect began. She likes to understand the feelings so she can work around them and stop them triggering negative times. If she’s feeling bad she looks at the cause and tries to resolve where possible. But I didn’t resolve it. Didn’t communicate and just closed off into the grumpy greedy selfish child state.

    So that was our last date… Compassion and understanding are my new borns and I’m trying to nurture and grown them. But with intense emotions and childish reactions I make it difficult for myself and others.

    But I’m not closing off or moving forward. Our love has grown in the time we’ve known each other. It’s a long story. But the type of person she is; vulnerable and weak when it comes to me affecting her emotions like I have done. I want to change and develop into a grown up who can handle situations where the emotions start to cloud and cause negative reactions. Being in control and looking at just the positives

    #151328
    Inky
    Participant

    Hi jon kirkham,

    It looks like you’ve taken the first important adult step: Being consciously aware of how you’re reacting and why. Followed by vowing to tweak how you respond, and doing it before anything untoward comes out!

    I hope your love also has success in not allowing you or her mom (or anyone!) to push her buttons.

    Don’t worry about blowing it on your last date. Just be aware. And be flexible. Plans often go awry. It’s not what you do, it’s that you are together.

    To continued success!

    Inky

    #151322
    Paul
    Participant

    Hi Jon,

    You have really put a lot of thought into this and have a good understanding of how your actions are impacting the relationship.  I am not sure I can add much, but for me, the quickest way to stop acting childish or resentful is to be grateful.  I have a gratitude journal that I write in everyday.  The practice helps me to be grateful in the moment, so when I am with someone, rather than worrying about if it will last or what is going wrong, I am able to enjoy it more.  Anyway, that has helped me.  Wish you the best of luck.

    #151356
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear jon kirkham:

    Thank you for your kind words expressed to me on the other thread, greatly appreciated.

    Regarding the first date, you wrote: “the intensity of the day itself caused me physical pain from a buildup of excitement and strong arousal… (from) intimate connection that does stimulate.”-

    You experienced excitement, arousal, stimulation. That means that a complicated hormonal activity was taking place in your body. Simplified, here, what happened was that a surge of adrenaline was secreted into your blood causing multiple physiological responses which use up a lot of energy.

    The day after, you met new people. Still riding that adrenaline wave, you ventured out of your comfort zone, bonding with strangers.

    Following the adrenaline rush of two days or so, you are worn down “to the point of where I couldn’t talk or think. Drained… I maxed my mental energy.”- maxed mentally  and physically (as a matter of fact mental is physical)

    Second date: “Straight away I was negative”- feeling drained is distressing in itself, so adrenaline is starting to build up again. Your plans didn’t work out, leading to some distressing self-talk, more adrenaline. At this point, you are so busy with distressing self talk that “it (is) difficult to see past this”.

    Then she said she didn’t have much energy and having a tennis match the next day, your self talk now included the thought: “she (is) choosing her tennis over something ew and different for us!” This thought is accompanied by anger, and further increase in adrenaline release, following more negative thoughts follow (“domino effect”). Overwhelmed, you “just closed off” just as you did as a child.

    You wrote above: “The trouble I have is the intensity of the emotions. Sometimes we revert back to being a child”, and: “I want to change and develop into a grown up who can handle situations where the emotions start to cloud and cause negative reactions. Being in control and looking at just the positives.”

    To “handle situations where the emotions start to cloud” your rational thinking and cause ineffective behaviors, I suggest the following: first, on a regular, daily basis, keep your distress level as low as possible, do so by having an effective daily routine, one that includes some kind of aerobic exercise and distracting activities that are not unhealthy, as well as alone time. Remove from your day activities and people who cause unnecessary distress.

    Pace yourself, notice when you are distressed (tired, hungry, uncomfortable, angry, fearful, sick, physically exerted, excited, stimulated) and calm yourself. In other words, keep track of your adrenaline release (simplified, as there are multiple hormones involved in the process). When you feel distress, do something effective to release it.

    Over time, notice your self talk, the thoughts that happen in your brain and the distress that accompanies them. Then challenge your thoughts- if they don’t fit reality- correct them. The corrected thought will be followed by relief of distress. For example, the tennis match she mentioned. You could have asked her a question about what the match meant to her so to check your thinking for accuracy. If you found out that she was not choosing tennis over you, the distress accompanying that original untrue thought would have been gone.

    There is more, I am sure, but this post is long enough.

    anita

     

    #161124
    jon kirkham
    Participant

    Bit delayed b y me, but i have thought about your sincere advice.

    Thank you Inky.

    And thank you Paul. I have actually been using the gratitude journal process and when i’m consistent with it, it really does help.

    And of course a big thank you, as always, to you Anita. Very analytical and spot on too. I have been doing a bit more meditation on daily day to day scenarios. Mindful when eating and just the occasional moment here and there. And that helps me stay calm and override my emotions more regularly now. And it also helps me be more aware of what is causing some of the emotional problems. They stem from something and until you work out what causes them, then regardless of your emotional intelligence, it will still be in the background. So it also helps with being able to diagnose the problem and find a solution where possible.

    And i’m sincerely grateful for you sharing parts of your own knowledge and experience. Your hearts and minds have fueled my heart and my mind too. So again its a big thank you from me to you

    #161246
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear jon kirkham:

    You are very welcome. Thank you for your appreciation of me. Since Mindfulness, meditation and otherwise, is working for you, keep mindful. As you practice mindfulness, you get better at it, over time. There is always more to see, more to notice, more to learn about what’s always been there. Post again any time you’d like.

    anita

     

    #162248
    Marie
    Participant

    May you have a peaceful mind and a great understanding in every situations. Good Luck

    #162536
    Eliana
    Participant

    Hi Jon,

    I too, suffer from very intense, painful emotions which sabotaged many of my relationships. Most of it due to a very traumatic childhood, constant abandonment, severe neglect, emotional and verbal abuse, not getting the love and nurturing I needed as a child. Unfortunately, this has wreaked havoc in my adulthood, with my relationships with men, friendships, bosses, co-workers, and has left me with several mental health diagnosis, including Borderline Personality Disorder, which consists of impulsive, intense and painful as well as getting into co-dependent relationships. I have been in intensive DBT, REMT, and CBT therapy for several years. I was also put on Topamax for intense, impulsive emotion regulation. Since then, I have been less “intense” less “temper tantrums” less impulsive, my relationships have improved. There is help, there is hope. I hope everything works out. Keep us posted.

    #188851
    jon kirkham
    Participant

    Thank you for sharing your own past life experience and what is has done to your mind. I can relate to the whole loveless and lack of nurturing as a child. And it does affect it us, whether we like it or not. Being deprived of the most important aspect in this life does affect us! However, we can use our minds to work around it to some extent. We should also factor in how the other person who hasn’t treated us well, may have been treated even worse before. Affecting them to the point where without seeking help or understanding to repair, then they continue the same path. Unfortunately. So for me, taking that approach and adding it to what i already know, shows me that i don’t know every aspect involved. But what i do have is the present me. And with all the time that passes, i improve and develop from it all! Staying connected with loving ourselves, and knowing that once we are truly connected, we don’t necessarily need another. Just nice to have somebody to share directly with, and vice versa. But we have to believe and trust that this will happen, 1 way or another. Just a case of remembering that we are the 1’s who can truly love ourselves. We can also do the same for others. Which is important. Don’t be greedy, selfish, or numb ourselves from this life. Even if at times the meaning of love and this life just doesn’t feel like much. Just a case of finding productive distractions that remind us. Exercise, seeing different places. Seeing a person smile, and smiling back. Talking to loved 1’s. Talking to strangers, and while you may not know them, we are all the same at the core; hearts and minds. Just how we use them in different ways. But there is still the fundamental aspect at the core. Even if some hide or close it off at times. Nature and wildlife is the easier approach. Watching documentaries. Exploration of this world and our minds. Just a case of working out what you want, and staying true to yourself

    #188871
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear jon kirkham:

    Welcome back to your own thread. I like what you wrote here: “we are all the same at the core”- I agree. I believe we are all born loving and lovable, reaching out to others with trust and hope.

    anita

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