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  • #191275
    Mark
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    Wow.. what a punch in the gut Louise.

    What red flags from your story that shows up for me are:

    1. You are still with another guy when you started dating, i.e. no clean break in living separately

    2. This other guy has had two failed marriages with kids with each wife

    3.Ā  He came in hard and fast with the driving long distances to be with you, the money he spent on you and wanting to marry you/living together

    4. This was a very short period of time.Ā  You said you met him in September of 2017?Ā  So all of this transpired in less than 6 months

    5. Something happened that involved Social Services so he cannot be with his kid alone

    He *may* have loved you but as you know love shows up in different ways, is not always forever, and is usually conditional.

    You have experienced a classic whirlwind romance and breakup.Ā  I wish you grace and gentle healing through this grief stage.

    Mark

    #191301
    Louise
    Participant

    Thanks Mark, it’s such a shame as we have the same interests and were attracted to each other and had lots of plans of fun things to do. I think it wasn’t the right time for me and it certainly wasn’t the right time for him. He should never have got into a relationship with me with all of that going on, it happened in June. The social work thing is in relation to what his son from the marriage did to his daughter from the other woman so he can see all his kids but the kids are not allowed to see each other and die to this the ex wife is in denial and wants him dead and daughter marriage hasn’t spoke to him since June. The other daughter that was hurt is too young to understand why she can’t see her brother and sister and is now getting counselling too.

    I suppose I am asking if the depression and anxiety of all of that and his new job and then us niggling each other has got too much and that’s why he has left or is it that he just doesn’t love me. I felt so much from him that I don’t want to let it go. I want to be there for him and help him through. I got angry after a week of nothing and sent a horrible message because I was hurt and I’m thinking any chance of reconciliation is now lost. I miss him terribly, I saw what he saw but seems life got in the way šŸ™ I haven’t mesagednro apologise after no response so I’m just trying to move on but it’s so hard when he spoke so lovingly about the future šŸ™

    #191311
    Mark
    Participant

    Louise,

    Depression, anxiety, new job, kids and their issues, a pregnancy and the termination and rushing into a relationship all are great factors for not being available for a relationship.

    Louise,

    I am always cautious about using the word “love” and focusing on that for that can placing expectations on the other person.Ā  Ā  So I would not think of him not loving you.Ā  Regardless it is not about you and he has made it clear he does not want to continue the relationship.

    Time to move on.Ā  And yes it is hard considering all you have been through with him in such a compressed period of time.

    I have no easy formula to get through this.

    Mark

     

    #191475
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Louise:

    You shared how he spent many hours and many miles traveling so to spend time with you. Did I understand correctly, that when he attended to the serious problems with his children, that you expressed to him your discontent about him spending the time on or with his children, social services and all?

    anita

     

    #191503
    Louise
    Participant

    Hi Anita, it’s complicated, my dating experience so far has been that my men have not had any children and so I was a priority and to be fair when I started dating Michael it seemed like that as he was seeing me a lot but this was because he’d been made redundant so was coming to see me almost every lunchtime and then picking me up and going to his or out for dinner but I’m the days he’d have his 6 year old he’d leave early which wasn’t a problem. For me it was hard all of December as his ex was unwell which meant he had to have his daughter and her Birthday is then so there were parties which meant not seeing me and then there was Christmas Day, Boxing Day and we were meant to see each other Christmas Eve but again ex unwell. Then he stated his new job which meant no lunches, a few days away which unfortunately turned into nearly a week and in return had to keep daughter a few days in a row. Due to what’s going on with the kids I wasn’t being introduced and rightly so. He doesn’t see other daughter as she won’t speak to him and his son sees him but not a lot. I felt like I was never seeing him and had went from seeing him a lot to hardly anything.

    I honestly believe he loved me and I pushed him away with my anxiety over our arrangements that got changed or cancelled so often that I was finding it hard to trust him and it made me sad because all I wanted was to spend time with him. I think everything got on top of him with the anxiety and depression and new job and kids and I became another ā€œproblemā€ but one he could remove. I’m devastated, I miss him so much.

    #191507
    Louise
    Participant

    It’s been 3 weeks and there has been contact once from me (negative), I was so angry he left me after making love to me and talking again about a wonderful future and the next night before the fight on phone offered to come bring me tablets as I was sore (60 miles to drop off tablets, who does that if they don’t care?! It doesn’t make sense) I then fought with him over something silly and he said I’m sorry I can’t hanfle this, I’m not coping I’m struggling and don’t have the strength for it all and this relationship. I am so upset I have pushed him away and will regret it for the rest of my life, we could’ve been so good together. We wanted the family unit, same interests, attracted to each other. It’s such a shame. I messaged him today sesaying I missed him and would like to see him and he saw it 2 hrs ago and hasn’t responded. I know I need to move on but it’s so hard to leave him.

    #191539
    Mark
    Participant

    Louise,

    I can see why it is confusing for you for he is sending mixed signals.Ā  Sex then talk of future then offer to bring tablets then…

    This just highlights how inconsistent and confused he is.Ā  I would find it hard to deal with anyone like that much less a romantic partner.

    This is classic push-pull.Ā  Where he pushes you away then reels you back in with words and deeds and then he gets scared again and pushes you away…Ā  Ā I think this is what those with Anxious Attachment style people do (you can Google that).Ā  His behavior shows that he does not want to let go and he cannot be close or attached.

    You cannot leave him because you are not yet committed to your own *full* and healthy happiness and therefore not ready to leave him.

    Make sense?
    Mark

    #191577
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Louise:

    Reads to me that what you miss is not a man who truly loved you but a man whose style of dating was this: “he didn’tĀ  wantĀ  to wait… he wanted a life long partner… told me with eachĀ  day weĀ  spent together he wasĀ  falling forĀ  meĀ  moreĀ  andĀ  more. He would run his fingers through my hair…He wouldĀ  travel 40 milesĀ  to come to see me for 45 min lunched… He bought a toothbrush which he said meant our relationship wasĀ  movingĀ  to the next stage and that I was the one, his soul mate…”

    You thought, understandably, that his grand statements and actions meant that he loved you intensely. I think reality, his grand statements and actions were his style of dating a woman. Not a grand love story for you individually, but … a style.

     

    “The night before the split we stayed up… ate ice cream, spoke about us and our future again, he even said about us living together…and theĀ  next day.. heĀ  sentĀ  a text saying: ‘I don’t normally do this but this is goodbye..’ and later: ‘Thank you please take care of yourself'”

    And thatĀ  wasĀ  his style of ending a relationship.

    If he was authentic while dating you, if he reallyĀ  felt deeply for you (and so quickly), then heĀ  couldn’tĀ  have ended it with you so abruptly and completely, the day after insisting that living together wasĀ  what heĀ  wanted.

    anita

    #191581
    Louise
    Participant

    I honestly believe I have pushed him away, all he did and actually said this, was to give his all because he believed we were worth it. He proved this time and again through not only his words but his actions too. He was there for me in the beginning because he was out of work and was able to do a lot and then when he got the job and things started to get worse with the ex wife and kids I saw his mood drop and coming off the tablets for depression over Christmas because he had run out didn’t help. When he was no longer there for me it was hard to adjust to and I became anxious of our arrangements and bless him I think he did too as he would never know if an hour before leaving work there would be a problem he had not option other than to deal with or that he’d need to go get the kids and he became nervous about telling me as he knew it’d upset me. I was not understanding enough and my stupidity has made him withdraw from me. I wish I had done things differently, he needed someone to just understand and be supportive and all I did was get upset and he felt he couldn’t make me happy and as he gave his all he couldn’t give anymore so left. I truly believe this. I pushed him to the emotional edge and with everything else he has going on it isn’t hard to see why he is the way he is. I just wish I could have been better for him and get a chance to show I could be. The timing wasn’t right for either of us, I think a break would have been better than a split.

    A friend said it is good I am not blocked and that maybe he just needs time to sort himself and his situation out before he responds to me. I don’t know. I am not going to be messaging him again, I have done all that I can. I am trying to move on but it is very hard when I thought we could have been the family unit he/I wanted.

    I have learned that I need to trust more, be more understanding and supportive, it’s just such a shame I didn’t learn that before him.

    Mark, yes it makes sense šŸ™

    #191583
    Louise
    Participant

    I agree with what you said too Mark, certainly a whirlwind romance, such a lot of things in such a condensed space of time. I fell I have known him years not months. I just wish he would speak to me, hard when I heard from him every morning (text) and every night (phone call for an hour or two). I miss him and I regret giving him a hard time over things that he had no choice other than to attend to. I was selfish. He gave me his all and I just gave him some and then grief and he didn’t need that with all else that was going on and with the counselling re the anxiety and depression.

    #191619
    Mark
    Participant

    Louise,

    I believe that there are good reasons why relationships end, that if was really meant to be then it would last otherwise it ends for a good reason.

    I also believe that for each relationship there is a great opportunity to learn and grow.Ā  It looks like you have.

    Mark

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