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  • #285219
    Charlie
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    Hey there all I need some advice. Ok so my ex and I we have a son together he is 4. And we broke up about a year ago. Many reasons lead to our break up but the ending was bad. He ended up cheating on me. Well he is still with this woman. Now I have met her once. She never acknowledge me or spoke a word to me besides hi. Although I never did either. I know i should have been the bigfer person and engaged in a conversation with her, however i did not feel like i owe her anything. Now shes been around my son before meeting me. Ok i was pissed off at that at first. I am trying to be the better person and just let everything go that happened in the past. But i dont trust her. I think shes disrespectful. She never introduced herself to me prior to meeting me. Not a message nothing. Maybe i am overreacting. I just feel like if you are dating someone who has a kid wouldn’t you want to be ok with the mom and maybe try to be friendly. She doesnt even try. Maybe its because she knew what she did was disgusting. Whether my sons father and I were on the outs or not cheating is cheating. I think its disrespectful. On top of that when i met her she did not only not conversate with me she ignored my son. Like really this is how you view him? I dont know maybe i am irrational. I just need advice on how to handle this situation. I have wanted to message her and ask her to lunch or coffee and get to know her. I want to know who is going to be around my son. Is that too much to confront her and sit down and talk? I feel like I am stepping on my exs toes. Mind yoy we are friendly exs and are great at co parenting. Although this situation whenever i bring anything up he gets defensive and tries to belittle me. I dont know how to go about this situation. I am asking for advice?

    #285223
    Mark
    Participant

    Charlie,

    I am in wonderment how friendly you can be with an ex who cheated on you and belittles you.

    I am not sure what you are looking for.  Do you want to talk with your ex’s current gf on how to parent your son?  Is she parenting your son now?  When you ask how to handle “this situation,” what situation are you talking about?

    Parenting your son is between you and his father aka your ex, not his current gf.

    You are saying your ex has no interest in talking about parenting.  Is that all you are wanting to talk about?  Or are you adding his current gf in the mix of discussion?

    Try to focus solely on co-parenting your son with your ex.  Make sure you come with a written down list of issues/items about co-parenting you want to agree on with your ex.  Better if you two arrange a set time and meeting place to talk about it with you sharing your list with him ahead of time.  Ask about what his concerns, etc. he wants to talk with you about your son for this meeting.

    Mark

    #285231
    Charlie
    Participant

    Thanks Mark, and we already did that and it has worked out. I feel that if she is going to be around my son she would try to be friendly with me. As for her parenting my son. My ex and I agreed she is not to parent him. We set ground rules and we both put our input into it. I know i have no say in their relationship and I am not trying too. I just do not know her and I do not trust. She knowingly went into a relationship with a person while he was in a relationship and had a son. I just dont trust her as a person to be around my son. I think if i sat down and got to know her this whole situation with her being around my son everytime he is with his father put my mind at ease. But when I bring this up to my ex that i want to get to know her he gets defensive and rude. See he brought our son around her without my knowledge my son told me. And i flipped out on him. I felt that was disrespectful we should have talked about it first. Thats when we came up with ground rules.

    #285315
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Charlie:

    She was disrespectful to you getting involved with your then boyfriend, and your boyfriend was disrespectful to you getting involved with another woman, and taking your son with him when visiting her, without your knowledge of course.

    But what now, is the question: what is useful for you to do now-

    I think it is a good  idea for you to meet with her and with your ex/ her current boyfriend. Meet them both, a meeting of three, a meeting aimed at improving the situation for your son, making it all more comfortable for all parties involved.

    I think that your ex is nervous about you meeting with her alone, and so does she, probably afraid of a confrontation. So meet them together- she will feel safer with him around, and he will feel more comfortable being present at the meeting, not wondering what may be going on if his ex girlfriend and his present girlfriend get together without him present.

    If you arrange such a meeting, prepare a short list of objectives for the meeting and an agenda, treat it like a business meeting with a friendly touch.

    What do you think?

    anita

    #285371
    Charlie
    Participant

    Anita that is a great idea. I will try that. I get where that makes both of them nervous. And i am willing to meet with them both. I have been asking about this since i found out about her being around my son without my knowledge. He keeps delaying it or saying I am just trying to intimidate her. I have never done anything towards her. I think hes afraid of anything coming out about our past. Which i would never bring up it doesn’t have anything to do with our son. He tries to keep away from her and almost like hides her. But i will try to have us all sit down and talk!

    #285387
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Charlie:

    Let your ex know that you have no intention to intimidate her, that your intent is to make all  of you more comfortable. Tell him that he will be there during the meeting and will see for himself that there is no intimidation on your  part. If you would like my help preparing for the meeting, let me know, will you?

    (I will be back to the computer in about ten hours).

    anita

    #285441
    Charlie
    Participant

    Thanks Anita. I just want clarity. Her actions towards me and from what I seen and heard from my son is she doesnt play or talk to him when she is around. It baffles me. You are with someone who has a child. You should be forming a relationship with that child. That is my feeling. And definetly for some sort of relationship with the mom. The past is the past. Yes i feel what they both did completely wrong, but this situation isnt really about me. Its about my son. I just want to discuss the importance of both parties being able to be on friendly terms for my son. He deserves both parents involved in his life. And if significant others are involved they are also role models. I guess i will have to wait and see if he agrees to my meeting. I asked him today if we could go for coffee all 3 of us and lay out some issues and hopefully make it comfortable for all involved. I hope he agrees. I just have to collect my thoughts and what i want to say and maybe write them down

    #285445
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Charlie:

    Regarding your ex’s girlfriend you wrote: “She never acknowledged me or spoke a word to me besides hi.. I never did either… she never introduced herself to me prior to meeting me. Not a message nothing… She doesn’t even try.. when I met her she did not only not conversate with me she ignored my son… She knowingly went into a relationship with a person while he was in a relationship and had a son… when I bring this up to my ex that I want to get to know her he gets defensive and rude..  He keeps delaying it or saying I am just trying to intimidate her…she doesn’t play or talk to him when she is around”.

    Your attitude as expressed here on your thread is mature, you are focused on the right things: the well being on your young son and the need for all parties involved in his life to feel more comfortable, so to provide a better experience for your son and to be more comfortable yourself.

    My guess, from your description, is that his girlfriend is not mature, that she is fearful. She may feel guilty, I don’t know. But clearly she is anxious, fearful of you attacking her and of a lot more that we don’t know about. She expresses these fears to him and he tries to protect her.. from one of her perceive to-be-attackers- you!

    I don’t think that her view is something like: I might be this child’s step mother, I need to behave in ways that will benefit this child. I need to have a civil relationship with his mother because this child and his mother may be in my life for a long, long time. So let us all make it work!

    I think that her view may be something like: oh, oh, this woman is angry with me, she is going to hurt me. It is not fair to me, I didn’t do anything wrong!

    She may be thinking something like (and I hope not!): I don’t like that my boyfriend has a child. He is paying more attention to his kid than he does to me!

    I hope these are not her views but these views are common, so I will not be surprised if these are her views and you need to prepare for this likely possibilities.

    Let me know what you think at this point, and again, I will be glad to help you prepare.

    anita

    #285507
    Charlie
    Participant

    We shall see what he says he said he will ask her to meet. I have doubt that she will. I told him i do not wish to make this situation ugly. My intent is to make sure my son is good. And I know the person who is coming around him. There is so much I’d love to say to her but she is not worth my breath or time. Her negative actions don’t break me down. At one point both of them destroyed my world. And as much as I’d love to give her a piece of my mind. It is not worth it. I am better than that. I want to ask her how she views my son. And how can she be a positive influence in his life. As well as lay ground rules. That way all parties involved can be on the same page. As well as lesson the tension. I fully understand I can be a little intimidating but that is not my goal. I have so many thoughts running in my head on how to talk to her. I guess my biggest issue is he doesn’t need another mom and i do not want her acting as his parent. I always thought or imagined if him and i ended we would work through everything and eventually be comfortable enough to have a blended family with our significant others. I also want to mention him needing to meet my boyfriend. He refuses to meet him stating he trusts my judgement. I think its important for them to meet. And my boyfriend wants to meet him. I think its important that everyone involved should be on civil terms!

    #285567
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Charlie:

    It is better for children to not have their parents’ new girlfriends and boyfriends in their lives, it confuses them as they see new people come in and out of their lives, as it often happens, the father has a new girlfriend and later another new girlfriend, and same with the mother.

    Better that a parent keeps his/ her dating life out of the child’s experience.

    If I understand correctly, your ex is not living with his girlfriend, correct? And you are not living with your boyfriend?

    – is it a possibility to solve this problem by the two of you agreeing to not have your boyfriend and his girlfriend in your son’s life at all?

    anita

    #285645
    Charlie
    Participant

    I tried to suggest that. He refused and said she is a huge part of his life now and whats her around his son. My boyfriend and I i just recently introduced him after things started to get serious. I wanted my ex to meet him before my son ever did and he simply stated he doesn’t care. I waited another month before introducing my son to him and they only been around each other for maybe handful of times if that. I want my dating life private from my son unless things are Getting serious. My boyfriend wont move in unless we are married. That is my ground rule. We met each others family prior to him meeting my son. As for my ex. I have no idea he is secretive. He doesn’t tell me anythimg regarding her. He keeps me in the dark. Which I understand however we have a son. We should be communicating. I don’t want to jnow their relationship details. That is none of my business. I do know somethings that my son tells me. And my ex seems to think i question him. I never do he just tells me. I ask him how his time was with his dad and ge tells me everything that he did.  I asked my ex for more communication and that we need to be good team mates when it comes to raising our son. That we need to be on the same page. My boyfriend is considered only mommys friend. We do not show any type of affection in front of him or around him. I set ground rules for my boyfriend and I. No sleep overs when i have my son. As for my ex i asked for the same thing and he just said ok. I have to trust him that he’s following those guidelines. And of course she is refusing to sit and have a talk with all 3 of us. I even said my boyfriend could come so that way all 4 of us could make sure we are on the same page. It is just frustrating. I am not out to hurt her. I have grown past my anger and learned how to heal and grow from mine and my exs relationship. I learned to deal without the closure i wanted. I may just message her personally instead of letting my ex do the communication. Maybe include him in like a group text or something so again he is involved. I have a gut feeling he isn’t really asking her too. I don’t know for sure, but I think he has been lying to us both. I think it all stems for when they started seeing each other when my ex and I were together. I feel like he is afraid I am going to say that we were together the whole time they were. I don’t know thats just how it seems. He is really sketchy when i try to ask if I can get to know her. I have tried telling him that my intentions are not to bring up anything from the past. And i have tried to reassure both of them that we all can be friendly. I dont want this to get ugly. I just want to know the people around him. I would never just let my son go off with a stranger. And that is exactly who she is to me.

    #285665
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Charley:

    Problem is you need your ex’s cooperation and his cooperation with you is limited. As a father he has the same rights as you do, that is, just as you have the right to determine your boyfriend’s involvement with your son (no sleep overs etc.) when your son is with you,  so does your ex, he has a right to determine his girlfriend’s involvement in his son’s life when your son is with him.

    As long as nothing illegal is going on, such as leaving your son unattended, using drugs in his presence, hitting him or abusing him otherwise!

    Here is a problem: you don’t know how your ex’s girlfriend feels about you. Let’s say she hates you- in this case, if you communicate to her that you would like her to behave a certain way with your son, she may do the exact opposite out of anger.

    I don’t know what motivates her- is it fear of being verbally or otherwise attacked by you and/ or is she angry with you, I don’t know. This would be very valuable information to have as you figure out what to do next, if anything at all…

    anita

    #285789
    Charlie
    Participant

    I completely understand that. Just wish this could be easier. And this whole situation just sucks. I am trying to make the best of it for my son because he is the only thing that matters in this situation. My ex and I see eye to eye in how we want to raise him. We agree on a lot of things. Except this whole situation. He sent me a message yesterday saying I am trying to tear his relationship apart. That is the last thing I would do. Although it is a constant reminder of betrayl and disrespect he is happy. I do not wish to do that. I just want the whole situation to be more comfortable for all parties involved. I tried telling him that. He just don’t want to hear it. I haven’t messaged her like I wanted too. I have respected his choices. I am just over it. As long as my son is happy that is all that matters. I just wanted to give him a family that can still have family days and have somewhat of a whole family. My parents are divorced and i watched it turned ugly. That is my biggest fear him to go through what i went through!

    #285797
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Charlie:

    I would leave it as is then. Your ex is too uptight about the meeting I suggested and which you thought was a good idea. He believes it is a bad idea and his girlfriend does too, so it can’t happen.

    After your son has his time with his father, it is better that you don’t ask your son too many questions so to not alarm him, to not send him the message that there is something wrong with him being with his father, that maybe he shouldn’t be there or shouldn’t feel okay being there. Ask him casually about his time and listen well. If you hear nothing alarming, don’t ask further.

    What is most important to your young son is to see that his mother is okay, calm, to see his father calm, no arguments, no tension in the air. If it takes doing nothing to accomplish it (giving up on meeting with her personally and together with your ex) and not providing him with a blended family experience, be it.

    The blended family experience is often a disaster, really, from my experience.

    anita

    #285935
    Mark
    Participant

    Charlie,

    It seems that the best you can do is to continue to work with your ex on how best to raise your son.  Neither of you can control his girlfriend.  Your son knows who his parents are.  Hopefully between the both of you, he will grow and learn by your examples and be resourceful enough for himself.

    Is there any specific behavior from his girlfriend you find alarming that would be harmful to your son?

    Mark

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