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I agree with Inky. I hate video calls. I hate phone calls, too. haha. They both make me feel anxious and I’ve never quite understood why. My last boyfriend and I were semi-LDR because we lived about 25 minutes away from each other and could only see each other on weekends for the most part due to work. We only communicated through text during the week. We dated for 2 years and I think we only video chatted one time when I was on vacation with my family, and I was extremely anxious during that call, even though I loved the guy to pieces. My anxiety really had nothing at all to do with him.
So I think the easiest thing to do here is to not video chat. Do just regular phone calls instead.
I can also see how you two are feeling anxious and maybe a little insecure about seeing each other since it’s been a while. Part of you may be wondering if it will be comfortable like it was the last time or if you will feel awkward, and not knowing for sure can make you feel anxious. I wouldn’t make any relationship decisions based on that feeling and just try to remember that it’s more likely you will feel comfortable since that’s how you felt the first time. Then just see how it goes!
ValoraParticipantIf it might help, what is an example of something you were wanting him to express through words? Maybe we can find an action he’s shown you that would give you your answer that way.
ValoraParticipantIf you’re dating in the U.S., you’re going to find this is a very, very common belief among men. Most men do not verbally express emotions but do it through actions instead.Ā For instance, my dad has only told me he loves me maybe 3 or 4 times in my nearly 38 years of life, BUT he has always been there when I needed him, goes out of his way for me, listens to me when I talk to him, and is always happy to see me and happy to talk to me, therefore, I know for sure that he loves me without him having to say it. I don’t believe he would feel comfortable expressing feelings through words, and I can say the same for a lot of guys I know.
So what I’m basically saying is that if this is something you’re not okay with, that’s okay. It simply narrows your dating pool, at least in some countries. I do think lot of men are getting better at embracing emotions these days, but many were raised to “man up” as your boyfriend said, and I wouldn’t ever expect their views to change. It’s what they were taught from childhood, and those beliefs tend to be deep-seated and hard to change unless they actively work on it, and most men won’t because it’s socially acceptable (and encouraged) for men to be this way.
So your only options are to not pursue him and find someone who expresses emotions verbally or accept that he won’t and look for signs of his emotions in expressions and actions. Long distance relationships can make this harder as well because he isn’t there in person to show you how he is feeling through actions, but you can usually tell how someone truly feels about you by paying attention to what they’re NOT saying, like in the example I noted above with my dad.
ValoraParticipantValora- I am aware of the law of attraction but I havenāt looked into it properly- but I will now. I agree, even I am surprised at what a good example of that my situation was. I have actually been having counselling for the past year to try and help my issues but Iām not sure how far itās got me since this all happened now! But I will keep seeking. Thank you.
I’m glad to hear you’re going to counseling. I go too, and I do think it helps, even if it’s gradual. The important part is you’re trying and I think that speaks volumes of good things about you.Ā If interested, one of my favorite blogs on law of attraction is Life Made to Order. The blog writer explains things in a way that is realistic and easy to follow, she advises that people not just focus on positivity but also work to get rid of the “ick” when it shows up, which helps to clear up that bad energy, and her writing is also helpful when it comes to accepting and being okay with things the way they are, even when they feel bad at the moment. That site has been sort of a form of counseling for me, too, over the past couple of years because she’s made me see some things in a new and better way.
ValoraParticipantI can get very anxious, especially when I really like someone, and I ended up being a bit crazy and insecure with him on several occasions (asking whether he still loved his ex, wondering aloud if we were really compatible, jumping to conclusions about what he thought on a few occasions)
He obviously wasnāt expecting this to be a letās get back together meeting and the impression I got was that he thought it was a good idea we broke up, and he said essentially that I really was just too crazy and insecure (in a nicer way than that, but thereabouts). He was perfectly pleasant but I just came away feeling like he never really cared, like the last year meant nothing to him and like we canāt even be friends now because maybe our friendship wasnāt real.
Hi Sarah,
I quoted the two parts of your post above because there are similar patterns of thought in both of them, before and after the breakup. When you were together, you said you’d been insecure and had jumped to conclusions. Looking back, had he really given you any reason to wonder these things or was it just your insecurities making you fear that these things were happening? If it was simply your insecurities/fears, you can then look at that last sentence quoted and know that that is likely your insecurities talking, too… that you did and do mean something to him, your relationship with him was very real, and I think you can take it at face value when he said that he still liked you but didn’t think the relationship was healthy for you… it likely wasn’t healthy for you. It was bringing out some major insecurities in you, and that can sort of become a self-fulfilling prophecy a lot of times. You have to work on those before you get into a relationship so that you don’t end up self-sabotaging it with insecurities, and if you decide to trust someone, you have to do your best to trust them fully and not let your doubts sneak in unless they deliberately do something that should raise red flags.
Ā I just canāt believe his feelings, which he said were so strong and which had built up over a year, changed within a week or so. I donāt want this experience to make it even harder for me to trust people than it already is, but it feels like my worst fears were proved right (that he was too good for me and he would leave me). I even booked a holiday next week in November because I thought our ārelationshipā would combust by now and that Iād need a break.. which is exactly what happened!
Have you ever read anything about the Law of Attraction? We tend to manifest or bring into our lives the things that we focus on, especially when there is great emotion attached (such as fear) or if we have strong beliefs about it. You were focusing so hard on him leaving you that you literally booked a trip months in advance, while you were still with him, to give yourself a break because you were expecting to be broke up by then. You manifested the breakup yourself in time to go on the vacation you planned for the breakup you were expecting… your belief that it would happen was that strong. It’s the perfect example of how it works.
So… my best advice is to learn from this. I know you’re feeling awful now and that’s totally normal with a breakup. Give yourself time to grieve and recover, but then work on yourself and these beliefs you have about people always leaving you. Fear of abandonment is a very, very common belief/fear and there is a lot of information even for free on the internet that you can read that may help you to get past the insecurities and change this belief so that the next relationship you get into (maybe even with the same guy, if you show him over time that you’ve grown out of your insecurities) will be much more likely to be successful. You’ll have a much better chance of a happy, committed, long-term relationship with someone who will stick around if you are able to move past the insecurities and fears that have become a self-fulfilling prophecy in the past and then you WILL be able to trust that they’ll stay if you’re both a good match for each other… but that’s the key. It still doesn’t guarantee that you will always stay with each other because sometimes it takes dating for a while to figure out that you’re not a good match… but when you DO find a good match for you, you won’t let any insecurities/doubts get in the way like before, and then that’s when the guy will stay.
January 7, 2020 at 3:58 pm in reply to: very confused-new girlfriend, ex-girlfrend. Help me please #331905ValoraParticipantI’m sorry you’re feeling so bad, John. I really do get it, and I still have my moments where waves of grief come, and I think that’s natural. You just have to sit with the sadness for a minute and then do your best to change your focus. And I know that continually trying is difficult and you get tired of trying and feeling like you’re not getting anywhere, but you are. It’s just slow going. For one thing though… letting yourself think about if things might have been different if this or that factor was different isn’t helping you because it’s not anything you can go back and change, so those are the types of thoughts you really have to stop in their tracks and tell yourself “no… it doesn’t matter because it didn’t happen that way and it can’t be changed now.” Stop those thoughts every. single. time. they come, no matter how many times they come. Develop and nurture that skill of stopping the thoughts that don’t serve you and will only set you back.
On the positive side, it sounds like you know what belief you need to work on then…. believing that if you let go, you’ll forget or miss your chance. You won’t. If you let her go and she comes back and you’re not with someone better than her at that point, it won’t be hard for your feelings to come back again just by hanging out with her. Start realizing that, and it’ll be easier to loosen your grip enough to let go for the time being. And I believe this will help because I felt the same way and it helped me. Think of how many people have had exes come back YEARS later and then after spending time together, the feelings come back (or redevelop even stronger) and they get together again. Most of those people had let the other one go completely with no expectation of ever reconciling, but it didn’t matter when they hung out again… the feelings reignited. There have been studies done on this, too… when we develop deep connections with people, our brains form pathways and even years and years of disconnection can go by and when you get together again, it reignites those same pathways that were formed before…. so your worry (and my previous worry) of your feelings going away right before she comes back and then you miss your chance is really not something that will happen. If she comes back and you hang out with her, your feelings for her are likely to come back and you won’t miss that chance, so it really is safe to let go for now, at least enough to where you can stop agonizing over her.
With that said, don’t push yourself before you’re ready. I do think it sounds like you need more processing time. It’s hard to grieve or suffer with 2 things at once, and you basically had 1.5 years of suffering in a bad relationship right in the middle of this process of grieving your relationship with your ex… that kind of thing can prolong the time it takes to get over someone. So if you’re not ready to let her go yet, that’s okay, just take baby steps, keep trying to reprogram your beliefs, eventually they will change. Also start learning something that you’ve always wanted to learn (like an instrument or a new language, for example) and stay busy in your free time studying that. It really helps to keep the loneliness at bay. I went back to college and have zero free time to be lonely during the semesters. haha
- This reply was modified 4 years, 11 months ago by Valora.
ValoraParticipantWe ended up planning a meeting for the day after Xmas (December 2019). At some point, I started to feel that I wanted to talk with him a bit more often. The conversation went very well the first time I brought it up, but I soon noticed that nothing had really changed. I admit that I was growing frustrated and wanted to get a bit closer to him emotionally. He was a busy guy and had long days at school. I brought up the issue a handful of times over a two month period and this when we began to fight. He would become defensive when I brought it up and would say things like āI have a lifeā and basically said that things would not work out if it continued to be an issue. I expressed how I did not want to feel bullied into silence on the issue and he seemed to understand.
You seemed to get upset when he could not talk to you more often than you both had been talking for the past 3 years, but that bolded part is very important. It was you who wanted to make the change, but it sounds like he was unable to keep up with it and that that change wasn’t going to work for him because of his busy schedule. When you would bring up this issue to him, what type of tone would you take when you’d tell him?Ā Concern or criticism? Did he tell you he would talk more often or did he try to explain that he couldn’t because he was too busy for more?
On one hand, yes, I was emotionally reactive. On the other hand, he did dismiss my feelings instead of trying to understand me.
What was it that he said that made you feel that he was dismissive the first time or two that you talked to him about it? What did you need from him to not feel that way?Ā Would it have been acceptable for him to just tell you he was too busy to add more conversation time or did you need him to talk to you more in order for you to not feel dismissed? I feel like that distinction is important here.
I do think just blocking you was extremely immature. At the very least, he should’ve told you that he wasn’t happy and didn’t think things were going to work before just cutting you off like that. Had he said anything like that to you before he blocked you?
ValoraParticipantThere’s nothing like the stress of a court case to put things into perspective and to make you just not want to take any crap from anyone anymore. It’s making you stronger, and I think it was a good idea for you to cut them loose if this is how they’ve been treating you. They haven’t been good friends or keeping you on equal footing. It also sounds pretty petty that your friend won’t send you the information she has on her phone when she knows you need it, which is another reason it’s good you cut her out. I would just let your lawyer handle it, especially if they can subpoena the information.
And yes… cutting friends out of your life who make you feel disrespected, used, walked on, etc., is self-care, and an important part of it. If you do become friends with them later on, be sure to set boundaries that you expect them to treat you with the same amount of effort and respect that you treat them or they should expect your effort to decrease to their level or for the friendship to end altogether. That’s a perfectly acceptable healthy boundary to set.
ValoraParticipantHow long has it been since his aunt died? Mark’s right that it’s your insecurities that are making your heart ache. It sounds like he has reassured you but just needs some time, especially if the death was very recently. It’s up to you whether it’s worth it to give him that time that he needs or if you can’t and need more to feel content.
December 30, 2019 at 10:36 am in reply to: I need to let go of the need to be the most beautiful #330249ValoraParticipantIt sounds to me like this desire to be the prettiest girl in the room is filling some deep-seeded need of yours, it offers a comfort to you, which means you have a belief that needs to be changed. The hard part is figuring out what that belief or need is, but once you do, you’ll be able to begin to change it. I once had a shopping addiction that I had to do this with, and once I figured out what the REAL issue was and changed my beliefs by coming to realizations that helped me, the addiction just sort of vanished.
The only way I’ve found to do this is to ask yourself questions and follow the trail of answers until you get to the root. Things like how do you feel when you’re the prettiest in the room and why? How do you feel when you’re NOT the prettiest in the room and why? What will actually happen if you’re not the prettiest in the room and why do you think you’re afraid of it?Ā You don’t have to answer any of those questions here but just ask them for yourself and then ask more questions and answer them until you figure out what the root cause is. Lots of times it stems from something that happens in childhood, for example, maybe you found validation in your looks from someone who was important to you when you were young and you felt like this person would only appreciate you for being the cutest/prettiest and felt a DEEP need for this person to appreciate you, so it made your desire to be that much stronger. To change that belief in that case would be to realize either that person valued you for more than your beauty OR that in the grand scheme of things, that person’s opinion didn’t matter as much as you felt and you had lots of other worthwhile attributes.
It’s good thing that you are recognizing this issue now and you should be proud of yourself for seeking help and wanting to work on it because changing that belief will help you greatly in the future, because, as we all know, beauty (at least youthful beauty) tends to fade as we age, and there will come a point where there is always someone prettier in the room (and with that said, did that statement bring up any feeling for you? If it did, ask yourself exactly how you feel and why you think you feel that way).
ValoraParticipantHonestly, I wouldn’t break ties in this case, if it were me. Just hold space for him. When he says hello, say hello back and have a nice conversation. Keep your heart open to others during this time, though, don’t just wait around for him because it may be a long time (years even) before he gets into a position where he could have a long-distance relationship again, but I don’t think you need to close the door entirely, because this seems like it’s 100% personal circumstances and not anything with you and his relationship, so once his circumstances return to a more normal and less stressful state, you guys may be able to work something out later on. Again, this may take years though, so be sure to remain open to other options for yourself as well.
In the meantime, it’s going to hurt to have less of him in your life, and it’s okay to miss him and to let yourself feel that pain and then let it out. But after some time, you’ll get used to not talking to him so much and it will feel less painful. I really hope his mom gets feeling better and that his situation overall improves. They’ve all suffered a terrible loss, and I’m sure the criminal investigation is extremely stressful, and that’s actually probably why his mom relapsed (stress hurts the immune system) so just expect that he’s going to have to get through all of that and allow his life to return to normalcy before he’ll be ready to commit to anyone.
ValoraParticipantI am ashamed to put someone in the position I was in . It was destructive and unhealthy and maybe I dug my own grave in making him turn to someone else .
Then he is a grown man, responsible for his decisions and should I blame myself ? I asked for honesty. I said I know things havenāt been great and if heās seeing or talking to someone just please tell me . Heād get angry say I donāt trust him and that I was questioning his integrity . If I assumed heād say he hate my assumptions, if I asked questions heād say he hates my thousand questions.
I hurt .
No, I don’t think you should blame yourself. He made his own choices. You cannot push someone into someone else’s arms if they are loyal, no matter what you do, so he has shown you that he is not loyal or, at the very least, hasn’t been completely honest with either you or the girl he was “talking to.” I think you need to forgive him for his treatment and forgive yourself for doing the same, because forgiving both will help you to release the pain you feel, and then move on. He was not treating you in a way that you liked, so it would be better to cut ties with him, move on, and find someone who treats you in a way that you like.
I also don’t think you actually owe even him an email, especially if you’re still broken up. Unless sending one would help you to feel better, but I would keep it short and simple.
ValoraParticipantFirst I want to sayĀ I think it was wrong of your counselor to suggest that you bring your partner to your hobby. A person needs to have their own things they enjoy separate from their partner because it helps to maintain individuality, and that was your sanctuary, so of course you were going to feel like he invaded it and build resentment, especially since he seems to have a much more outgoing personality (which is not better or worse in most cases but is worse when someone just wants to be unnoticed and enjoy what they’re doing). That was terrible advice. There are PLENTY of hobbies out there that you two could’ve done, so what should have been suggested is that you two try new things until you find a hobby you both enjoy doing together. If you ever do get back together… go try new things and let each of our favorite hobbies remain your favorite hobbies alone, without the other.
Anyway, so you say you began to act the way he was acting and couldn’t help yourself, right? This doesn’t make either of your behavior okay, but it should at least help you with the pain of feeling hurt by what he did, because when you experience the other side of things, it can help you to understand it. Perhaps he was also dealing with things internally that were making him feel angry, anxious, and resentful that were making him treat you in a way he shouldn’t have been… and these wouldn’t even have to be about you. Sometimes when we’re dealing with stressors that we can’t control, it affects all of our other relationships and that can cause us to treat the people closest to us badly, even when we’re not mad at them in particular. So use your memory of the monster you became to forgive both him and yourself for the pain you’d felt previously from him being the same monster to you so that you may release that pain.
With that said… I’m not saying you should forgive and get back with him. Forgive to release the pain you feel, but I also think you need to trust your gut on this one. It told you something was going on for 3 months and it was confirmed when the girl told you they’d been talking for 3 months. He may not have technically cheated physically, but there may be something emotional going on there and it sounds like he’d misled the girl as well, otherwise why would she leave and go home if he were taking her to meet her boyfriend? That makes no sense. I have plenty of guy friends and in that scenario, I would’ve reassured the girl myself that nothing was going on, we’re just friends, and he gave me a ride to see my boyfriend for whatever reason and then I’d go off to see my boyfriend rather than going home. So his story doesn’t check out in this case, and I think you have reason to feel that he was being deceitful and dishonest, at least partially. Maybe it’s true that he didn’t cheat, but the story he told you was not a story that made sense.
If you feel like you should block him and just walk away…. do that. You two have already done the breakup, said your goodbyes, and whether he wants to get back together or not, if you don’t… there is absolutely nothing wrong with just disappearing without explanation. You two aren’t together and you don’t owe him anything anymore. And a relationship with him won’t work anyway if you don’t feel like you can trust him and are still feeling extremely hurt by the past, so it may be better to just cut ties so that you can move on and heal.
December 27, 2019 at 8:54 pm in reply to: very confused-new girlfriend, ex-girlfrend. Help me please #329889ValoraParticipantHi John! I was wondering how you’re doing. I’m sorry to hear you’re in a bad place.Ā I’m kind of wondering if you’re finally officially grieving the relationship, though. You’ve felt bad all along, since the breakup, but for most of the middle part, you were also dealing with other issues. At first you were kind of distracting yourself from your previous ex with your most recent ex, and then you went through all of that trouble with your recent ex for many, many months, which made you miserable and took up some of your emotional space, and now that that’s over, you’re back to grieving your previous ex, and in that case it makes sense why you wouldn’t be over it yet.
So you may just need to let yourself continue to grieve but try not to dwell. Vent here as much as you need. I understand what it’s like for the family and friends not to really want to listen to it anymore. Mine got like that with me, too. It’s hard for people to really understand when they likely haven’t felt such an intense connection with someone. I’m not sure it’s even possible to understand what it’s like until you actually experience it. It’s easy for people to say to just move on already, but it’s hard to actually do. My ex recently asked me for something that I’d bought him back that I still have that was sentimental to me so I told him no and he blocked me, and that hurt and I broke down for a couple days. The I realized that I hadn’t been able to grieve in the middle either due to a bunch of issues with other people in my life stressing me out, so I think that might be what’s happening with you, too, because I struggled with the fact that I still feel hurt, too, after 2 whole years.
This time of year doesn’t help either, so just be gentle with yourself. Don’t compare yourself and how you feel to others and how they feel and how quickly they move on because you aren’t them, they aren’t you, and neither one of you are having the same experiences. But you DO have to start letting yourself let go just a little bit. I understand the feeling like you’re missing a part of you. I feel that way, too, BUT you can’t focus on that. That’s what’s driving you nuts. Sometimes in life we lose parts of us and we just have to accept that those parts are gone and deal with it and know that we will be okay with that piece missing. We can still live without it.Ā Your mind is telling you that you need that piece to function or ever be happy but you absolutely don’t. I’m sure you’ve experienced plenty of happy times since that breakup, whether with family or friends or even things you do on your own that you enjoy. That’s the stuff that you need to redirect your focus toward and you have to be diligent in order for it to work. Redirect, redirect, redirect.
When your head says “I’m missing a part of me.” Say back to it “but I will be okay without that part.”
When your head says “I’ll never find a love like that again,” say back to it “actually, no, I can’t see the future and have no way of knowing who I’m going to meet and how I’ll feel about them.”
When your head says “I will never be happy again,” say back to it “no… that’s wrong. I’ve been happy here… and here… and here” and go through all of the times that you’ve felt happiness or joy, even with just the little things like for instance… I have a cat and when I say “hey, kitty!” she meows back to me, like she’s saying hi back, which I find adorable. And that’s just a cat, not even to say how many little joys I get from my kids and the things they do and say. Life has a billion little joys if you’re paying attention and taking notice.
And go to counseling again. Find a good one that you feel comfortable with and can relate to. They will remind you as much as you may need to be reminded to challenge your thoughts. You’re in a bad place because you’re likely still putting a lot of focus on what you lost or what you feel is missing rather than what you have or what you’ve gained since. Thinking about the past or future rather than being in the present is what generally puts us in a state of regret/anxiety/depression. Centering yourself in the present takes practice but it works wonders once you’re able to do it regularly… and not what you’re lacking in the present, but all of the little things you have and can do that make you feel good. Focus really hard on that stuff as much as possible.
ValoraParticipantDistance almost never fixes things because then the person has no idea what they’ve done. Distance is avoidance. The way to fix things is by being assertive, so I definitely think you should address your concerns with him and see what he says/does. If he reacts in an understanding way and then changes his behavior, that shows that he respects you and really is a good guy at heart.Ā If he reacts very badly in the way that you’ve seen him react with others, that should send a clear message of who he actually is. This includes if he blows up at you and then apologizes later, that’s still a big red flag.
I think it would be healthy for both of you to back off a little because, not only will your fiance be relieved (even if he won’t tell you that directly), I don’t think your friend is ever going to find himself in a healthy relationship with someone he truly likes as long as your friendship keeps the dynamic it currently has, so it would be good for him too if you two backed off from the physical touch and flirtiness, and it’ll probably seem weird at first because it’s a dynamic change, but I can see it being better for everyone involved.
I think it also makes sense that he’s basically with her just so his family will stop bugging him, but that still doesn’t make it okay for him to act the way he has been. Hopefully he will change that behavior.
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