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TeeParticipantDear Charity,
I don’t know why exactly your husband doesn’t want to invite his friend to your house. There can be a number of reasons, maybe even that his friend is a womanizer and that’s why he wants to keep him away from you. Or he might be using bad language or makes inappropriate comments, or something like that. So the reason might be that he doesn’t want to embarrass himself in front of you for having such a dumb or impolite friend… who knows. The problem is that you immediately jump into conclusions that there is something wrong with you:
I feel hard to love. I feel worthless. I feel like I’ll never be with anyone that can love me and respect me the way I believe a wife should be. Am I being dumb? What is so wrong with me?
The reason for this is I believe your childhood wound. This is from your previous thread:
Because I am pro-choice and support gay marriage and people living their lives the way they want my brother and his wife have said they do not want me around them or their children. It’s been over a year (almost two years) since I have had any contact with them. I feel like I should have healed and accepted this by now, yet my daily thoughts always go back to their rejection. Almost like I cannot allow myself to be happy until I am accepted by them. None of it makes sense to me though. I love them but every time I was around them I was the butt of the jokes. I always left in tears and feeling less than because my brother loved to make fun of me so much. I am constantly telling myself that this is the week I focus on being happy and finding joy in my life yet my thoughts always go back to the rejection and the raw pain I still feel.
You feel rejected by your family, believing there is something wrong with you. And now you feel rejected by your husband too.
You said about your ex husband:
I spent 12 years begging him to respect me and love me and be honest with me but he could never do that. My emotions were funny to him.
Again, you were begging him to respect you and couldn’t leave him for 12 years, and I think it’s because a part of you believed you don’t deserve respect.
So I believe you’d need to work on healing that wound – of being undeserving of love and less than.
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TeeParticipantDear Felix,
it might give you some relief, so yes, you can do it. But it won’t solve the main problem, because there will be new events and new pictures which will give you anxiety – for this or that reason. To use anita’s metaphor, it’s a “scratch” that won’t really resolve the “itch”.
TeeParticipantSure, go ahead…
TeeParticipantDear Umaz,
he was talking about the funeral and told me that his ex’s mum and sister was at the funeral. This hurt me so much and I reacted poorly, I was angry, he again said I was a narcissist.
You say you reacted poorly – what did you say? If you e.g. blamed him for even speaking to them, he might have felt it’s selfish from you. People often use the term “narcissistic” when they actually mean selfish, self-centered.
He does call me that often and realised maybe he is gaslighting me. Every time I try to raise my own feelings he makes me feel so guilty about it, and calls me a narcissist.
What are some other occasions in which he called you narcissistic?
TeeParticipantDear canary,
Thank you for speaking with me, I appreciate everyone that has commented. I feel much better and at peace after speaking and being honest
You are welcome, and I am glad you are feeling better now. And that you see that you are enough and don’t need others to validate you:
I realize that whenever I feel inadequate, I need to bring the attention back towards myself. I need reminders of who I am and what my strengths are. I don’t need others to validate me and agree with me.
And also, that you don’t need to take advice from people who are harsh and criticizing:
I know that the only opinion and advice that I should take is from those I look up to. Someone who I look up to will never criticize me in a hard way because they are loving and gentle.
These are all important realizations!
In this last post of yours it also transpired that your father was rather a bully in the family, whom everyone feared, including your mother. You perhaps received less of his yelling and open aggression than your siblings, but still you grew up afraid and hiding your anxiety and your school problems from him, because you were afraid of his anger (My father would never see me cry, only my mother would. I didn’t speak to my father about my anxiety as a child, so he didn’t know what I was dealing with. I was too afraid to ask him for permission to remove my facial hair because I assumed he would get angry and say no, so I never did.).
Your mother was afraid of his anger too:
She did not agree, she was willing to let me remove my facial and body hair but she was afraid to speak to my father about it because he would become angry.
She was afraid of him, he thought he knew better how to raise children, and she didn’t dare to say anything.
I wouldn’t say my dad lacks empathy, he is very emotional and loving but he was just blinded by his own mindset at the time.
Well, he certainly wasn’t emotional and loving when you were a child, since he kept you all in fear. Your mother didn’t dare to mention that you have problems at school and that you were being bullied. Neither you or your mother dared to say anything to him, lest he explodes in anger. Your siblings were terrified of him, even more than you were, because he yelled at them much more.
So you grew up with a bully father, and I believe you’d need to acknowledge it. Even if he has changed since, he did inflict a wound, and I believe his behavior contributed to your anxiety. Because if you needed to hide your fears, if you couldn’t speak openly about your feelings and about being bullied, no wonder this would exacerbate your anxiety and your sense of helplessness. If you were told to be strong and not a crybaby, while this terrifying man is looming over you – how else would you react? And you knew that your mother couldn’t protect you either.
It is very difficult to bring all the focus towards myself because I realize that I care about everyone’s opinion of me. Even a stranger’s opinion of me matters to me, and I’m not exactly sure why.
Maybe strangers’ opinions matter to you because you’re still subconsciously seeking approval from people who remind you of your father – from fear inducing, judgmental and strict people? From people who lack empathy? Or just in general, you seek approval because growing up, you never received it with a father like that?
If you had to hide a part of yourself (your weak, vulnerable, fearful side – which every child has), of course you didn’t feel validated and appreciated. Of course you felt unseen and not completely understood.
It’s much clearer to me now where your sense of not being seen, understood and appreciated is coming from. It’s from your father. It’s fine that he’s changed since, but your mental health is suffering now because of how he treated you in your formative years. You’d need to be aware of that in order to heal it…
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TeeParticipantDear Anna,
good to hear from you again!
In addition, he feels unworthy of being loved, unworthy of my love because I am successful and he is being afraid that I would realize that he wasn’t “worth it”.
Yes, this makes sense. He doesn’t feel worthy because of his mother who made him feel unworthy and not good enough. And now he started questioning his sexuality, probably also because his mother had been questioning it (For a very longtime his mother thought he was gay and trans because he had a lot of feminine habits). She was criticizing him for his feminine traits and his sensitivity, which was another layer of rejection and condemnation. As I said earlier, this could be why he developed depression, as a way to escape his mother’s treatment.
I believe he’d need to work on his mother issues in therapy. Has he been doing that?
Also, it is becoming very hard for me to see him being under anti-depressant for so long and not seeing that many results on a mid/longterm basis.. I mean, 7 months seems to be a pretty long period, isn’t he supposed to see clear results by now?
You may need to accept that a lot of time may pass before (and if) he returns to his old self:
But I also know how he is during his ups. He is amazing in so many ways, we have the same values, he is very kind and generous. Honestly, I couldn’t wish for a better partner when he is at his ups. The way I want to be loved and seen, he is like this.
In fact, he was like that only during his good phases. But there were always bad phases, when he wanted to take a break from the relationship, even from the very beginning. It is you who have been pushing for the relationship to continue. And it’s because you “felt like a complete wreck” without him:
We once decided to take a break around December and it lasted one month, I felt like a complete wreck. I can’t imagine my life without him.
I believe you’d need to work on not feeling so bad about yourself without him. Right now, you are waiting for him to get better, and he isn’t, he is unfortunately getting further away from you, with this new issue of questioning his sexuality. You may need to let go of him, or at least see what letting go of him would mean to you.
TeeParticipantDear Speaklow,
I have found myself in an unhealthy relationship which started 3 years ago. I am 32, and he is 39. A gulf exists between us, exacerbated not only with drastically different lives but also cultures.
I think that the relationship is beyond salvaging. Sometimes one must know when to quit, and actually stick to it. Too much toxicity, too much pain, and he won’t end it, so I must for us both to hopefully heal.
I agree, it does seem like your relationship is beyond salvaging, and the very setup in which he is your life and business partner, but he refuses to divorce his wife is unhealthy. You work full time in both of your business, and he doesn’t work at all but is taking out the money though? (I work in both full time; he is currently unemployed and has been for months, but does not put in effort beyond what seems to be mostly criticism. I take on most, if not all, of the mental load in both businesses because if I didn’t, no one else would. A further update is that I see that he is starting to draw money out of both businesses politely)
He wants to sell you his share (although at a too high price), which means he too knows the end is approaching and he is preparing for that. And he wants to extract as much money as possible from you, so I believe you’re right when you say: “I no longer feel like there will be any kindness or fairness, not even basic respect and residual love from him anymore”. He knows you want out, so he wants to maximize his profit, even though the deal might not be fair for you.
Even posting here, makes me feel like I am in some way betraying him, because I am talking about him to others. It’s something he seems to feel keenly about; that I cannot talk about him to others, because he is a very private person. Him saying he has been backstabbed by me this time, is not the first. My heart is heavy, my eyes are swollen, and my tissue box is running low — if I am the horrible partner he is making me out to be, then why didn’t he leave, and why am I finding it so hard to leave?
Well, it seems to me that he has been a lousy partner all this time, both as a romantic and a business partner. He refused to get a divorce, and you tolerated it. Also, he was minimally engaged in your businesses, and yet was drawing income? And now he is accusing you of complaining to someone about his bad behavior? Now you are the bad guy, and he is innocent?
No, you’re not a horrible partner, but a too tolerant one. You allow yourself to be blamed, when the blame should be on him. He didn’t leave because it suits him to draw money while not contributing to the business at all. I think he didn’t leave for selfish reasons.
why am I finding it so hard to leave?
Because you don’t respect yourself enough and a part of you believes that you indeed are to blame?
TeeParticipantDear Felix,
few years back i did blame her that im this short… why didnt she encourage me to do some exercise when i was a kid or why didnt she give me some supplements to make me taller?
Your mother isn’t to blame for your height, nothing more than your father or your entire family tree is. It’s the genetics. She isn’t to blame either for not giving you supplements or encourage you to exercise as a kid, because one’s height doesn’t depend on those things, it’s a given. She could have encouraged you to do sports, but it wouldn’t have helped your height, just your strength and fitness. You can still exercise today and reach the wanted results – in terms of strength and fitness. You can improve your posture a bit and hold yourself more upright, which might help a little bit, but in general, your height is a given. If you want mental sanity and success in your life, you’d be better off if you accepted it, and focus on things you can change.
What your mother is to blame though is being overly worried for you as a child, fearing for your health, constantly telling you that you’re somehow not enough (not healthy enough, not strong enough, too thin…). Her attitude was demotivating, discouraging, and as a result (or at least partly as a result of that), you became lazy and unmotivated, and very dependent on your parents. And you also became very insecure about yourself, because she wasn’t telling you “yes, you can do it”, but “I am worried that you won’t be able to do it, so let me do it instead of you.”
I keep thinking it’s not due to my mother because i know she wants the best for me…
Maybe she does, but the methods she has been using are counter-productive and made you into an insecure and weak person, with very low self-esteem. You have been hearing all your life that something is wrong with you – how is that good for you? She has also spared you from all duties, does everything for you and treats you like a child. And you still feel and think like a child. You ask permission for everything from your parents, even though you are 22.
Does that mean every time i look short in any pic i should just let it go? I feel like im irresponsible for myself if i let it go.
You should accept your height as a given, same as gravity is a given on this planet. You cannot change it. Focus on things you can change – and there are plenty – and you’ll find happiness and peace of mind.
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TeeParticipantDear Felix,
I think my sense of worthlessness develops throughout the year because i experience numerous scenarios which triggers it.
You seem to not want to see how your upbringing and your mother’s treatment lead to your sense of worthlessness. You get triggered in even the most innocent situations, so it’s not the situation that’s problematic, but it is how you react to the situation.
TeeParticipantDear Felix,
Many random people wont know if that guy is really that tall, what they can see is that i’m very short compare to him. This is what causes my insecurity…
You meet many random people in the street or in the shops – do you think they care about how tall you are? Are you adjusting your position in the shop, so not to stand near a tall guy or a girl in heels? I am exaggerating, but this is what you are actually saying. That instead of healing your emotional wound, which causes you to believe that you are worthless due to your height, you believe that choosing a good spot while taking photos will bring you peace of mind?
Before my mother commented on that pic, i already feel so insecure that it got posted.
Sure, because your mother has been commenting on you and mocking you all your life. Your deep insecurity didn’t develop in a vacuum.
If i didnt attend that gathering this wont happen… it’s basically my fault for being careless, i should’ve predicted those girls wear heels…
I won’t be commenting on these types of regrets any more, because your problem is not bad positioning in a photo, but a deep sense of worthlessness. I have been trying to help you with the latter problem. Because I’ll say it again: your true problem is your deep sense of worthless, and not your height or your failure to camouflage your height.
TeeParticipantDear canary,
My father did send me that message. In fact, the main reason I got bullied was for my body & facial hair. My dad told me that having facial hair is normal, that I should deal with the comments and he believed that not allowing me to remove the facial hair would make me stronger as I got older.
What did your mother say? Did she agree with your father? It’s interesting that on one hand, you were allowed to skip school (your mother allowed it, perhaps without even telling your father about it?), and then you weren’t allowed to remove your facial hair because that will “make you stronger”. Could it be that your mother was too permissive, but not really able to help you deal with your fears, while your father was strict and lacked empathy?
If your father had the last word in a rather female problem of removing facial/body hair, does that mean that your mother didn’t really have a say in your home? And she “protected” you by allowing you to skip school in secret? If your father knew about it, he would have forced you to go to school, without showing much understanding for your anxiety?
I think the outbursts were a mix of things. Unrelated to the bullying, but the bullying was the source of my outburst. For example, I was insecure and did not want to take pictures with friends, or want to be filmed, because the bullying contributed to my insecurity. When my friends would do that without realizing it, I would react and be upset, that they posted a video or picture of me without my knowledge.
Right. Those outbursts were the result of bullying – you didn’t want to appear in common photos or videos, because you felt so insecure about yourself. A part of your insecurity and frustration is that you weren’t allowed to remove your facial hair, due to your strict father. You were forced to “toughen up” in a situation where a more permissive attitude (allowing you to remove the unwanted hair) might have been a better approach. At the same time, you weren’t taught how to become emotionally less reactive and “toughen up” in a healthy sense, by developing coping skills for your fears and anxiety, or by dealing with the bullies.
It seems to me you got poor parenting both from your mother, who was permissive but powerless, and your father, who was strict and lacking empathy. Would you say that this is true?
I was taught that being sensitive and emotional was bad and weird. I tried so hard to get rid of that part of me, but when I knew I couldn’t I learned to accept it. I just don’t feel appreciated for being myself.
Being emotional and sensitive isn’t bad – it’s necessary for empathy. However, being overly emotional and unable to control our emotional reactions isn’t the best. As I already said, it seems to me you weren’t taught how to deal with your fears and anxiety, and then you were criticized for being so emotionally reactive. You were criticized for something that wasn’t your fault.
You don’t need to get rid of your emotional, loving, gentle side, who gets immersed in the beauty of nature. What you need though is better emotional regulation, which will allow you not to be so insecure and sensitive to people’s reactions. And you need to know that there is absolutely nothing wrong with you. You just didn’t get the proper upbringing and proper tools…. but you are making up for it now.
TeeParticipantDear canary,
I remember when I would become triggered over little things and have my boundaries be crossed by my parents (eg. I don’t want a hug right now, don’t touch me right now), and I would become so reactive and throw tantrums.
Can you remember one such situation where your parents wanted to give you a hug, and you refused? Do you remember what exactly happened and why you didn’t feel like being hugged at that particular time?
I did not understand why I cared so much, especially about little things. I did not know why I cried so much.
We as babies and little children are super sensitive and cry for the slightest reason. It is the task of our parents to soothe and calm us down. If the parents didn’t know how to do it properly, or they themselves were anxious, we won’t learn how to calm ourselves down, and we’ll cry and get upset for even the smallest things. This could be one reason why you are so sensitive.
You said your mother didn’t know how to handle your fears and anxiety. She told you to skip school (which is avoidance), rather than help you deal with the cause of your anxiety. Perhaps temporary it felt good not to have to go to school when you were upset, but on the long run, it didn’t solve your problem. When we avoid things, our fear grows.
Your mother didn’t really help you with your main problem (to reduce anxiety), you were left to your own devices. Since you didn’t know how to soothe yourself, you felt helpless and desperate, and you reacted with strong emotions even to the slightest problem. You reacted like a small child who cries easily, because your mother (and your father) didn’t know how to help you deal with your emotions. At least that’s my take of why you are/were so very sensitive.
Now, I don’t have frequent emotional outbursts, and when I do, I can control them much better because I know what’s going on. I’m also able to communicate easily with whoever was involved and thankfully they can understand.
That’s good. You’ve learned to emotionally regulate yourself. It sounds like you are being a good parent to yourself. You understand yourself better and are able to “communicate easily with whoever was involved and thankfully they can understand.” I think this is what you needed from your parents in the past – to understand you and explain to you what’s going on and how to help yourself. And also to talk to your teachers, so they pay attention if other kids are bullying you. This way your parents could have contained your fear and helped soothe you. If they had done that, you would have also known that there is nothing wrong with you.
Anyway, you are doing that for yourself now – you can emotionally regulate yourself better. Now what’s left is to tell the little girl inside of you that there’s nothing wrong with her. That it was your parents’ failure and lack of parenting skills, not yours. And that she is perfectly fine just as she is. That there is nothing weird about her.
I lost some of my friends because of this because they believed I was toxic whenever I would have an emotional outburst and I tried to communicate with them but I did not even fully understand why I was acting that way. So that made me more insecure.
In fact, the main reason I got bullied was for my body & facial hair.
Did you have those emotional outbursts because you were bullied? And then some of your friends thought your reaction to bullying was too much and “toxic”? Or your emotional outbursts were unrelated to bullying?
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TeeParticipantDear Felix,
I’ve tried praising that little boy, it did worked as i’ve stop posting from social media and now it came back due to other people’s actions AGAIN…
You praised yourself for not posting… but when you started posting again, or someone else posted a photo of you, this same wound (of not feeling loved, of believing there is something terribly wrong with you) got opened again. You still need to appreciate yourself (and that little boy) and accept him just as he is, even if he is short and thin.
it really hurts when your no 1 weakness gets exposed like that in social media.
People who know you in person know that you’re short. Your height isn’t something new to them, so it didn’t really get “exposed”, because it wasn’t a secret in the first place. Your friends and acquaintances accept you as you are – they don’t mock you, do they? It’s just your mother who mocks you and doesn’t accept you as you are… and consequently, you don’t accept yourself either.
I feel like i shouldnt have attend that gathering… if i didnt i wont think like this today.
As I said, you won’t solve the problem by hiding from people and being a hermit…
I know i should love and praise that little boy, but it’s just too much for him to bear… it’s suffocating…. Especially when this adult life is so dull. I dont know how i can keep going forward in life with this issues.
It’s suffocating because your adult self is quite weak, and when the wound gets activated, you’re pretty much completely identified with that little boy. That’s why you cannot soothe yourself. On top of that, you still live with your parents and are exposed to their criticism and belittling. Your mother is doing that to you all the time – she told you you’re only receiving salary because you are your father’s son, not because you deserve it. Now she mocked you again, telling you you look like a girl… You are exposed to this same treatment your entire life. This is how you have been programmed. And you completely believe your mother, you believe her words…
That’s why I told you it would be very important for you to become more independent from your parents, to move to a different place, for starters. I know it’s harder at the moment due to covid, but a part of your healing will definitely be moving away from your parents and sparing yourself from their mocking and belittlement.
TeeParticipantDear Felix,
my mom told me… You have to eat more.. look at urself in that picture you look small. Even my mom comments like that, what makes other people cant comment like that? I’m screwed.
I am sorry that your mother is so insensitive, and she has been like that all along. She has been criticizing you and worrying about you ever since you were a small child. You grew up with a notion that something is wrong with you – your eating habits, your height, your weight… You were never good enough for her. And now you are never good enough for yourself. This is the core of your self-esteem problem.
It really triggers me, and i scream last night…. I really feel like i wanna cry… why do people have to keep embarrassing me like this.
Like really what should i do right, i dont even do anything to embarrass myself and it really cause something to trigger my self-issues.
It’s not people who are embarrassing you – that girl simply posted a group photo, with no intention to hurt you. For you everything is a trigger, even something completely innocent. It’s because of your emotional wound that you react to everything with a sense of doom. You feel like you’re falling apart because you cannot bear the feeling of not being liked. It’s too painful, you don’t want to live with that pain. I understand you.
But the solution is not to isolate yourself completely from people. You could do that only by becoming a monk and living in a far-away monastery, but even then you’d compare yourself with other monks and how they are better than you. You could become a hermit, living alone in the desert. But even then, the thoughts of not being good enough would haunt you…
What I am trying to say is that isolation and running away from people won’t help you. What will help you though is to heal that childhood wound. You’d need to heal that inner child. You need to become a good, positive, encouraging parent to that little boy who was always hearing how weak and insufficient he was.
You have been hearing that something is wrong with you since at least 3 years old, maybe even earlier. And you are still hearing it. Your mother is still making such belittling comments…. And they hurt, because you are still identified with that little boy who wanted his mother to praise him and appreciate him.
For you to heal, you’d need to praise and encourage that little boy. You’d to tell him you love him. You’d need to take him into your arms (in your imagination) and tell him how beautiful and precious he is, and that there is nothing wrong with him. You need to be your own good parent.
This I believe is the way out, the way to truly develop self-esteem.
TeeParticipantDear canary,
you are very welcome, and I am happy to hear from you again. It was beautiful to read this about you:
I am so sensitive to little things, I constantly get lost in the beauty of the world. I find beauty in everything, especially little things. I have such a deep appreciation for little things that most people don’t really think about. I enjoy thinking about these things, it makes me so happy. I enjoy being emotional too, when I get happy I feel like I am the sun. When I get sad, I allow myself to feel and make art to express myself. I’ve always been doing that. Some people may call me an overthinker, but I don’t consider myself to be an overthinker, I think deeply about little things, and it does not harm me it just brings me joy. Also, this is unrelated to my anxiety because I know anxiety makes me overthink but I was not talking about that.
I also feel like everything falls into place and everything is connected and I love thinking about that!
You are very sensitive and perceptive, and you notice beauty in details. Seeing that beauty fills your heart with joy. You see a bigger picture and how everything is connected, and this makes you happy. That’s so precious!
Now compare that with this:
I was always told that being sensitive, emotional, and thinking about the deeper meaning of things was a bad thing. So I always felt out of place because that is exactly like me.
I’ve been taught that my traits are actually weaknesses, and whenever I see someone that is somewhat like me, being strong and confident, I get so inspired and I look up to them.
You’ve been taught (by your parents, teachers or both?) that being sensitive, emotional and thinking about the deeper things in life was a bad thing. It’s almost like being told that the core of who you are is bad. No wonder you started feeling less than:
I can appreciate every individual and realize that everyone is unique and have their own beauty. But it’s so hard to do that for myself sometimes. I don’t feel special, unique, or appreciated.
Also, it seems to me that your parents and other authority figures (teachers, counselors) didn’t show enough compassion and understanding for you:
I feel like some people in this world get so caught up with themselves and their lives that they forget how to empathize and be compassionate towards others. Some of my past counsellors were like this, as well as teachers, and it was disheartening for me because I realized the world is a cruel place sometimes.
I just need someone to empathize with me and understand me.
In your earlier posts, you said your parents, specially your mother, loves you and supports you. But based on what you said, in your childhood she didn’t really know how to help you with your fears and anxiety. I wonder if your mother too (or both of your parents) somehow sent you the message that you shouldn’t be so emotional and sensitive, that you should just ignore the bullying, sort of toughen up and don’t take it to heart so much? And when you couldn’t, you felt that there was something wrong with you?
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