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September 9, 2021 at 2:39 am in reply to: Stuck in limbo, fear or loneliness, fear of hurting her #385988TeeParticipant
Dear Dave,
how are you? Have you moved into your own apartment yet?
TeeParticipantDear Dave,
how are you? Have you managed to come up with some agreement with your wife?
TeeParticipantDear canary,
When my ex entered my life, he would constantly compliment me and appreciate the little quirks that I didnāt know I even had. He appreciated every side of me, good & bad. It gave me so much confidence because I struggled with low self-esteem, it made me feel so nice to be appreciated by someone and being desired. Because of that, I started appreciating myself and others more.
Can you give an example of a bad side of yours that your ex appreciated? It could be that he didn’t mind some of your quirks, or “bad sides”, that your friends and family didn’t appreciate too much?
TeeParticipantDear Felix,
Right now iām trying to learn to draw digitallyā¦ at least to make me good at somethingā¦ i dont care anymore if what iām drawing is cartoons, at least itās better than following someoneās life only not to get judged.
It’s good you’re learning to draw digitally, if you have interest in it. By all means, do what interests you and makes you happy, not what someone else is doing.
i hope i can do itā¦ because if i can draw and also learned chinese language, i can unlock myself with 2 abilities.
Is this the correct way of thinking? I need to be good at many things?
Yes, it’s a good plan. You don’t need to be good at many things. And as I said, do it because you like it, you feel some inclination to it, not because others do it.
Itās the saboteur, i hate itā¦ it keeps giving me endless list of regrets that i made in the past.
Most of my days are ups and down, sometimes the saboteur isnt there, but whenever i feel down itāll appear and gain control of my head.
Good that you are aware of it, but also be aware that it’s a voice that is not telling the truth. It’s motivated by your fear, it wants to keep you “safe” by not trying anything new, by keeping you stuck in endless thinking and obsessing that paralyzes you for any action. So be aware that the saboteur is not telling the truth. His “defense” is harming you.
My parents told me that i shouldnāt have this kind of attitude, i always feel regret whenever i saw someone whoās the same calibre as me achieved better thingsā¦ iāll think āwhy didnāt i succeed like him, i know i can be better than himā,āhow is he better than me nowā.
My parents said if i have this kind of mindset, i can crash midwayā¦ as i changed my opinion easilyā¦
They are right. They see how your regret and self-doubt is harming you. At least they aren’t judgmental. But they may use your self-doubt to “worry about you”, like they (specially your mother) worried in your childhood. In their childhood, they worried about your eating habits and your health, now they worry about your mindset. This can make it harder for you, because you see it as another reason to criticize yourself.
So when you hear the saboteur’s voice again, try not to criticize it, try not to hate it (Itās the saboteur, i hate it). See it for what it is – a misguided defense mechanism. You can even tell him something like: “I know you are worried about me, like my parents were, and you don’t want me to make mistakes. I understand your motive. But I’ve learned some things about myself now, and I want to try new things because they will make me feel better. I am not afraid to try new things because only through trial and error can I grow. And I want to grow. I don’t want to stay stuck. So thank you for protecting me so far, but I’ve got it now. I can take it from now on. I am growing every day.”
If you try this strategy with your saboteur, let me know how it went…
TeeParticipantDear Lily Margarette,
I spoke to him last night. He told me the family treat me the way they do because I wonāt forgive them for the stuff theyāve done and I wonāt apologise.
Have they apologized first for the stuff they’ve done to you?
He said his sisters donāt like me because I speak out to their father.
And should you stay silent when someone openly humiliates you and treats you like you have leprosy, when someone on your wedding day tells you you are ugly?!
His words were āhow would you like an outsider coming along and having a go at your mumā ā¦. an outsiderā¦thatās how they see me. After 12 years of marriage and 18 years being together
Yes, that’s quite something…Ā it means they never accepted you as part of the family. Probably they only accept those who suck up to them and tolerate their father’s bullying. And even more worrisome is that your husband sees you as an outsider too, those are his words, which means he agrees with his parents and sisters.
Surly itās up to the individual whom they do or do not forgive? I feel Iām being bullied into forgiving.
Yes you are, you see it well.
He said he gets why I feel the way I do and he has stuck up for me but he wants to get to the point where we are ok as a couple when it comes to family situations and gatherings. I told him I wonāt ever stop him from seeing them, but I personally canāt have a relationship with them. So what does he do? He sets up a group WhatsApp with me, him and his mum. I donāt want to say anything to her.
Unfortunately your husband is bullying you into forgiving them. He is forcing you into a relationship under their terms, a humiliating and degrading relationship, where you are not respected at all.
His mum said that Iāve fractured the family. That thereās hurt on both sides, theyāve nearly finished my marriage with their actions, and thereās hurt on BOTH sides!
I understand your frustration. The problem is that your husband is on their side, and is forcing you into a degrading relationship with them. It means that he wants to please them at all costs, disregarding your needs and your feelings.
I feel like just throwing in the towel Iām so sick of the same argument go round and round.
By throwing in the towel you mean you you want to give in to his requests? What are you planning to do?
TeeParticipantDear Lily Margarette,
you are very welcome. How do you feel about the suggestions I made? Do you think you can speak to your husband and demand those conditions to be met?
September 8, 2021 at 6:34 am in reply to: My ex and I still love each other, but can’t be together #385954TeeParticipantDear Candice88,
He feels guilty about the way he acted when we were together, so maybe he gushed all of those emotions at me to make me crack and tell him itās okay, that heās clean in my books (which I didnāt do).
Well, based on what you said about him in your latest post, perhaps he doesn’t even feel guilty for how he treated you back then, but was rather worried about his image, about your and other people’s opinion of him, and that’s why he now sold you the story that you mean to him much more than you actually do. I mention other people’s opinions too, because you said that he talked with a mutual friend and that she told him he messed up:
A mutual friend confirmed that he regretted the break up months after it happened, and that she told him how he messed up.
His ego couldn’t handle that people think badly of him. So he tried to change this. He told you how he regrets his actions not because he truly regrets them, but so that you would change your opinion of him. That you would see him in a better light. Which means he is a manipulator.
And that is a good comment about him staying friends with his exes ā his exes never had feelings for him, really. They were all one night stands or a week of sex with female friends as they took breaks from their boyfriends. And those all ended with the girls saying āthat was fun, letās go back to just friendship now, donāt take it personallyā.
Earlier you said he made you stay friends with his exes:
Additionally, he is friends with all of his exes and has his current gf be friends with them, as he did to me when I was with him, even though he knows it makes her uncomfortable.
Does it mean he made you be friends with his one-night stands and his friends with benefits? How did that function?
I must say, the more I read about the guy, the less I like him. You are much better off that he isn’t reciprocating your feelings and doesn’t want you in his life. How are you feeling about it?
Regarding M, him being in the car is definitely similar to a teenager avoiding their parents in their room. And just for more information, the computer to make his music isnāt in his garage, itās in the living room. So he just goes out to his garage to doā¦.things (previously meth). For hours. Then comes in to start his music hours after he said he would, usually after midnight, and spends the whole night at the computer. That clarification isnāt too important, but it does explain why the garage is a place of stress for me when he disappears there for such a long time.
It is important, because I thought he was making music in his garageā¦ but if he does it on the computer in the living room, then when he disappears to the garage, no wonder you freak outā¦ Do you think he might be still using, when he disappears to his car or garage, or he is clean now?
You have been so supportive, and offered me so much solid advice and comforting words.
You are very welcome, Candice, I am glad it helped you.
After M, I worry about the lasting effects. I worry that I will miss red flags, and withhold love for a new partner (very much not my style) in fear that a year down the road I will discover they have been lying either through denial/lack of self awareness or manipulation. The last 7 years of my life have been coloured by 3 men like this, 2 of which have drastically affected my life and mental health.
I understand your trepidation. Perhaps if you could list those red flags, which you are aware of now, but weren’t at the time ā it would help you get clarity on what to pay attention to. Now looking back, what were the behaviors that were fishy to you and you didn’t like about them, and it later turned out you were right because the guy was a liar or a manipulator?
TeeParticipantDear Lily Margarette,
you are welcome, I am glad you don’t feel like it’s all in your head any more.
The thing Iām most worried about are the children. They donāt have a close bond with his family as theyāve never shown interest but I feel my husband is forcing a relationship on them. My two sons arenāt fond of their aunts as theyāve heard me being bad mouthed by them. One even read nasty text messages on my husbandās phone about me. This really upset my son.
That’s enough of a reason to not allow your children to go visit, only to have to deal with their grandparents and aunts talk rubbish about their mother! If the children don’t want to go, your husband shouldn’t be forcing them. I mean, if he wants to bow his head and take their verbal abuse, well, he can go ahead, but he doesn’t have the right to force that on your children. I would put my foot down and refuse that he takes the children with him when he visits.
If his parents and sisters want to see the children, they can indeed visit you, and you will allow it, out of the kindness of your heart. But in that scenario too, I would forbid any badmouthing you in front of your children. If they can’t help themselves and keep their mouths shut, they aren’t welcome.
If I say to my husband he should go visit them alone he always wants to take the kids and they desperately donāt want to go and I just donāt trust them around my kids as I honestly think theyāre toxic. So what do I do? Iāll be accused of being controlling and accused if keeping the kids away.
The kids don’t want to go, and it’s not good for their mental health to be forced to listen to rubbish about their mother. Full stop. Your husband might accuse you of being controlling, but you are protecting the children.
We have a religious family celebration for my son approaching soon and he wants to invite his parents and his sisters and none of them speak to me! He says its important to him they should be there and Iām not being supportive if I canāt do it. These people have ruined nearly every family event. His dad even told me I looked ugly on my wedding day for instance! Iāve literally been dealing with this for all these years and Iām so tired now.
Since this is a special occasion, you can allow this visit, however under the condition that they don’t badmouth you in front of the children. They should treat you nicely and be polite and keep their filthy mouths shut. Your husband should tell them that in advance. If he isn’t willing to, or they end up ridiculing him and laughing at him, well, they aren’t welcome. And if your husband doesn’t agree with your terms, then unfortunately he isn’t respectful of you, and will always side with his parents. And it’s a sign for you to start thinking of separating himself from him.
TeeParticipantDear Ashmitha,
you are welcome.
I am curious if either of you can tell what my attachment style is, from getting to know my deepest thoughts throughout the months. I have always thought I was avoidant since I can come off as emotionally distant and cold, but deep down I feel anxious too. I did a quiz once and got the disorganized attachment style. Curious to hear your thoughts.
Could be. Disorganized attachment style is also called anxious-avoidant, and it’s pretty well described on attachmentproject . com:
“Adults with a disorganized attachment style lack a coherent approach towards relationships. On the one hand, they want to belong. They want to love and be loved.
While on the other hand, they are afraid to let anyone in. They have a strong fear that the people who are closest to them will hurt them.
Adults with a disorganized attachment style fear intimacy and avoid proximity, similar to individuals with an avoidant attachment style. The main difference for disorganized adults is that they want relationships.”
Do you recognize yourself in those traits? From what you’ve shared so far, you want to be in a relationship and couldn’t stay for long without one. When in a relationship, you are reluctant to open up and share what’s bothering you, you’re bottling up your feelings, and I believe it’s for fear of being abandoned. So you are at the same time seeking a relationship, but also fearing to be open and vulnerable in it, and express your needs.
You have made some progress though in this last relationship – you did share your concerns and your needs. You showed your vulnerability. Which is great! Only the person you’ve expressed it to isn’t too responsive. He doesn’t behave like he wants a deeper bond with you. When you share your feelings, he pretends to be full of empathy and understanding, even sometimes “admitting” his mistake, but then he doesn’t act on it and nothing changes in his behavior. That’s why I believe he fakes empathy to get you to keep giving him what he wants. It seems to me that he doesn’t really want to connect with you on a deeper level, or open up about his own feelings and emotions.
You said his father is an alcoholic (I know he has gone through his own hardships as another child of an alcoholic father who now has no relationship with his father.) Does he ever share about that? Does he ever share about his childhood and what he’s been through? Do you talk about those painful things that you have in common?
TeeParticipantDear Lily Margarette,
you are very welcome.
I spoke to him today and he feels by visiting them itās sorted it out even though Iāve had no apology or heard anything from his parents.
It’s sorted out for him – he feels stressed if he doesn’t smooth things out with his parents, so he apologizes, maybe even in your name, or says something like “oh, she didn’t mean it”, and that’s how he appeases them and maintains a courteous relationship with them. But it’s not sorted out for you, because you’re made to be the guilty party and they are innocent. So things are upside down. And your husband unfortunately is keeping things upside-down and contributes to this unfair situation.
I told him I canāt have a relationship with his sisters and parents because I find the negativity they project is too much for my mental health.
You’re right. You don’t need to have a relationship with someone who is so rude and disrespectful to you. You don’t need to go visit them and then get a humiliating treatment. You have the right to say No and respect your boundaries and as you said, your mental health.
My father-in-law has always been rude, the way the whole family speaks to eachother at times is shocking but no one ever stands up to him, apart from me and other people who are outside of the family say this is his problem with me. I dare to speak up and to add insult to injury Iām a woman.
So he is a bully (and a narcissist?) but no one dares to stand up to him, apart from you. That’s why you’re so “offensive” to him. Like, how dare she speak to me like that?! You have the guts to stand up to him, which your husband doesn’t. You are able to defend yourself alright, but your husband cannot defend himself, neither can he defend you.
Iām a full-time housewife and donāt feel as if I could cope financially if I were to split up from my husband. … I think feeling dependant on him makes me feel trapped in a very unhappy situation.
Is your husband respectful towards you otherwise and only shows weakness with his family? If so, perhaps you don’t need to separate from him. But you can tell him clearly that you won’t allow to be treated like that, and you refuse to keep contact with his parents and sisters, since they mistreat you and disrespect you. Your husband can go visit them alone. If your husband refuses that and guilt-trips you, then you can start thinking of separating because then he truly isn’t respecting you.
How does this sound to you?
TeeParticipantDear Lily Margarette,
Iāve had no apology for the insult in front of my kids or the fact they ignored our wedding anniversary. Or for the fact that theyāre just plain nasty. Theyāve completely shut me out.
They indeed are nasty. Even if they have some disagreements with you, the fact that they didn’t come to see their grandchildren although they were in the neighborhood and after not having seen them for a year tells a lot. Also, how rude of your father-in-law to refuse to sit next to you and then proclaim “because no one wants to sit next to her”, as if you had leprosy.
I understand how it also pains you that your husband sort of agrees with you, but then secretly seeks apology from them – when it is them who should be apologizing! He doesn’t have the guts to stand up to them and tell them that they can’t treat his wife like that. He is weak, I think he is afraid of being rejected and judged by them.
I think you should talk to him and tell him how disrespected you feel when he goes back to apologize to them instead of defending you. It shows lack of respect for you. He would need to take a stance in this matter. I understand that it’s hard for him, due to his childhood conditioning and probably lack of self-esteem, but still, you’re right to be upset about it.
Otherwise, how are you with your self-esteem? Can you stand up for yourself (in other situations, not necessarily with your in-laws) or you feel frustrated about people not respecting you enough?
September 7, 2021 at 9:33 am in reply to: My ex and I still love each other, but can’t be together #385914TeeParticipantDear Candice88,
I absolutely want him to pursue his passion of music, and I donāt want to get Iām the way of that. But if I didnāt say anything, he would make music 11pm-7am, then either pass out or get to work late for some other reason, come home late because of that, repeat. He has lost many jobs with these habits, and since heās lied so much about his drug abuse itās hard to tell what is healthy music making and what is meth induced obsession.
I see… so he has a day job, and making music is his passion, which he does in his spare time. In that case, I see how him spending nights in the garage, “making music”, can be harmful to both his livelihood, his health, as well as your relationship.
We made a compromise last year that he would tell me ahead of time āhey, this is a music night so donāt expect me to be presentā. I said Iād love half of the nights each week to share a bed with him. He has YET to use that system we agreed to, instead telling me heās coming then never come.
Yes, that would make sense: 1) to organize his day so he can create music and yet not stay up the whole night, and 2) if he absolutely needs to stay up late, to limit it to one or two nights a week, e.g. Friday and Saturday night, when he doesn’t have to go to work. If he absolutely refuses to stick to any kind of agreement, and just does as he pleases (and causes harm to both of you in the process), it’s not a relationship because he totally disregards you.
In his car he is on his phone, smoking his cigarettes while texting people and watching videos.
He wants to stay away from your “criticism”, I guess. It’s like a teenage boy hiding in his room from his mother… Well, I think you stayed long enough with him, trying to work out a compromise, trying to be patient and understanding… but nothing worked. If you want good for yourself, you’ll stop trying and simply wait till October 1 to move out, and never look back…Ā A big lesson learned, hopefully not to be repeated…
As for S, I think this is very true about him:
It makes me feel like a major part of him didnāt change. He did this same thing when he had cheatedā¦messing with my emotions and then blaming me for feeling the after effects, when in reality he couldnāt grapple with or accept his own guilt.
Yes. He for some reason was super kind and loving to you when you met, he “admitted his mistakes” and professed he still loved you, but that he won’t act on it, since both of you are with other people. To his credit, though, he did email you afterwards, stating you can’t be together:
Then he emailed me reinstating that we cannot be in each otherās lives at any capacity for the foreseeable future, which I know is the mature move.
So he sort of gave you closure, he told you it’s not going to happen between the two of you. But I understand your drive to write him nevertheless and explain how you feel, specially since now you know that you’ll be leaving M, so things have changed on your side.
Anyway, he seems to remember things differently now: he is claiming that it was you who pursued him, and you who made him behave disrespectfully towards his girlfriend. And you who caused him anxiety. As if he never opened the door for you, with these words:
he told me he still loves me too. How we are both on each otherās minds, how we are each otherās ābig exā, the relationship we always wanted to work out. He said āit should be you with meā, and āI never thought I would see you again and NOT be with youā.
When I first read these words, they sounded fake. This is what I wrote you back then: I am sorry but this doesnāt sound sincere to me. Itās like he is putting up a front of this mature, considerate guy and white-washing his past actions. And I still believe this to be true. He was faking his kindness and “love”, wanting to appear mature and not an a**hole like you remembered him. That’s probably why he insists on being friends with his exes:
Additionally, he is friends with all of his exes and has his current gf be friends with them, as he did to me when I was with him, even though he knows it makes her uncomfortable.
He probably hates to be seen as a bad guy, as the guilty party, so he tries his best to smear over his past actions with some syrupy stuff. And that’s what he did when he met you too. His words were syrupy and fake: We are both on each otherās minds.Ā We are each otherās ābig exā. It should be you with me. I never thought I would see you again and NOT be with you.
I believe he wanted to create an image of himself as this kind, loving, wonderful guy, but didn’t think you would fall for it. That’s why he is now “frustrated about your dependence on him.” He didn’t want you to fall in love with him and start demanding things from him – he only wanted you to see him in a positive light. He only wanted to white-wash his image.
But why does seeing me once cause him so much stress? I see it as, once again, a sign that heās not over me. And is scapegoating me as the antagonist in his life, as opposed to his own actions and emotions he needs to work through.
You cause him distress because you want things from him, which he cannot and doesn’t want to give you. He is scapegoating you because he doesn’t want to admit that his sleazy and lying words caused you to start having hopes about him again. His strategy backfired. It’s exactly what you said:
It makes me feel like a major part of him didnāt change. He did this same thing when he had cheatedā¦messing with my emotions and then blaming me for feeling the after effects, when in reality he couldnāt grapple with or accept his own guilt.
He messed up with your emotions again, being insincere and lying about his feelings, having no intention to be with you, but only to white-wash his image. This is my impression of him.
TeeParticipantDear Tineoidea,
I have thought of BPD but generally itās something which manifests itself much earlier in one way or another, not almost two years into the relationship. Who knows at this point.
I don’t know enough about it. I know that people with BDP have difficulty maintaining friendships (and relationships in general) because they tend to be very passionate and super attached at first, but then get angry and disappointed when the other person shows even the slightest signsĀ of “abandonment”, e.g. not agreeing with them, or not giving them what they demand. They may claim that “this person has turned against me”, even if it’s not true in reality, it’s just that they perceive it like betrayal. I don’t know if your girlfriend had such rocky relationships in her life, and such extreme reactions (before this situation with you)?
Thanks for the help nevertheless, itās all been rather insightful.
You are very welcome. Please update us about the developments, if you feel like it.
- This reply was modified 3 years, 2 months ago by Tee.
TeeParticipantDear Ashmitha,
Yes teak, it definitely stems from my insecurities, Iām sure.
Right… but you are young, only 25, so you can deal with your insecurities, rather than settle for this guy because 1) you believe you don’t deserve better, and 2) you fear judgment and ridicule of other people. It will be much more painful to spend your entire life in misery and depression, living with him, than feeling the temporary pain of people ridiculing you for your relationship status.
Try to look at the bigger picture here and what is really important for you – to please others and live in misery, or to create a happy and fulfilled life for yourself?
It’s clear that this guy doesn’t love you and doesn’t care about you. You say this will be your strategy from now on:
Iām planning to just pull back as my life is about to become VERY busy. Iāll be working full-time, completing my masterās full-time and working at the university as a graduate research assistant part-time. We may just naturally fall apart, unless he initiates more often.
But he’ll be visiting you once per week still? That’s exactly what he wants, and he’ll probably be pleased with the new regime because it will give him an excuse for not paying more attention to you, and yet, he’ll get his weekly “reward”. It’s a win-win for him. You are the one who is losing in this scenario…
āFriendsā have made fun of me for āhopping from guy to guyā before and I didnāt like that one bit, because I do take relationships seriously. When I stood up for myself and left relationships, I was made fun of for it.
Probably they saw your tendency to stay in relationships for only a short while, and to leave quickly if problems arise. That’s because of your childhood dynamic and emotional scars that we talked about. It was an unhealthy pattern, which you are now aware of. Which means you don’t need to repeat it in the future, you can work on healing those emotional scars.
Yet, Iāve witnessed my friends stay in bad relationships for years and work through them.
Yes, and you escaped quickly because you feared that a small argument now will lead to huge problems down the road, because you saw it in your parents’ marriage. It was your defense mechanism to prevent bigger pain in the future…
I think that if I were to move to a different city or something, I would be more able to call things off. My friends are all in serious relationships now and I would feel embarrassed telling everyone I am single again, yet again.
It’s not an embarrassment to say that you are single again, because you’ve realized some things about yourself and you value yourself more than this guy values you. And that you aren’t willing to settle for less. And also, that you’re working on your other issues which made you fear conflict and leave some relationships too soon.
It’s not embarrassing to become more self-aware and more willing to work towards your happiness. If those friends don’t understand and appreciate it, if they keep judging you and ridiculing you, then they don’t deserve to be your friends.
- This reply was modified 3 years, 2 months ago by Tee.
TeeParticipantDear Tineoidea,
āThere was probably some unresolved anger in her, maybe anger at her brother which she falsely directed at you.ā
Actually I donāt think thatās the case. What I noticed is that she started to mirror his behavior towards me and using the same tactics which were alien to her before.
I see. It’s like she became a different person. I’ve mentioned it several times that she said she doesn’t know who she was. Suddenly changing her behavior and even personality completely, from one extreme to another, can be related to borderline personality disorder (BDP). I am not an expert and wouldnāt like to “slap” diagnoses on people, so this is just a possibility. A part of the BDP, as I read, is that they are confused about their identity:
“Identity disturbance is a term used to describe incoherence, or inconsistency, in a person’s sense of identity. This could mean that a person’s goals, beliefs, and actions are constantly changing.
It could also be that the person takes on personality traits of people around them, as they struggle to have and maintain their own identity.
The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5) describes identity disturbance as a “markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self” and notes it is one of the key symptoms of borderline personality disorder (BPD).”
You say that she was behaving in one way with you, and then with him, she adopted his style and mannerism, as well as his way of thinking. So for example, when she was with you, she might have felt that the problems the two of you had were minor – because you said they were minor. With him, those same problems became huge – because he said they were huge. It’s like a child who doesn’t know to decide whether to cry or not after they fall – they first look at their mother to see her reaction. If the mother panics, the child starts crying. If the mother says it’s nothing and reassures the child, the child might not even start crying and keeps running around.
Anyway, this could be a possible explanation of the “flipping” that happened in her mind. If this is true, it’s a major issue and needs persistent therapy. Usually dialectical behavior therapy (DBT).
Iām not sure how to feel but things have been (very slowly) getting easier. For now Iām giving it plenty of time and not contacting her.
Good strategyā¦
I still canāt shake off the feeling that this development has been very wrong and thereās some sort of childish hope growing in me. I want to believe that sheāll have to fortitude to come back to herself and detach himself from him, so we can at the very least have a proper conversation like we used to.
This development was wrong but I think it was inevitable ā something else would have triggered her to flip sooner or later. Your “friend” was the catalyst. If she has BDP, she won’t be a pleasant partner to live with ā unless she undergoes therapy. The only weird thing is that you said her parents were “exemplary”, and it doesn’t really go hand in hand with someone developing BDP. So perhaps not everything was so peachy as she told you it wasā¦ or of course, BDP is not what she is suffering from. So please, take this with a grain of salt…
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