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  • in reply to: Son left unexpectedly #430752
    SadSoul
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    Hi Anita

    I hope what I said was okay for your topic, the right way if writing, because I don’t want it to be the wrong way of commenting. I don’t mind if you reply here or there.

    Lolll I speak English but I don’t like to say where I’m from online, sorry. Isn’t it interesting how words are spelled differently from one country to another though?

    I am sitting in my lounge room with my pets thinking how lucky I am to have them. I hope your day is shaping up to have some special moments in it too. Letting go of the need to have mother love, how that’s even done I don’t know, but on the days it’s not as important to me I find the sun shines just a little bit more (:

    in reply to: Fear, Anxiety and Healing #430730
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    My mother used to tell me she was being punished by God for leaving my father, so she couldn’t leave her current husband, for fear of more punishment. She used to say, ‘He won’t live long though because he puts so much salt and butter on his food, and he already has deadly high blood pressure. He’ll die and ill be freed from this.’

    Over 30 years later and he’s still alive. Just a little bit of funny to add to your day. Totally aside from the humour I see in that, I felt like a spectator watching a horrific crime and doing nothing about it, when I was young listening to the hours of her speaking like this. I felt so guilty and churned up, but those hours were the only hours I felt like I meant something to her, guilty evil hours where my mother was focused on someone else.

    I turned myself inside out trying to tick all her boxes so she’d love me, or even approve of me, or at the very least not yell and degrade me. I made mistakes in my life obeying her instructions on what I was failing in; mistakes that so far I’ve failed to fix. But not many people believe who she is because she’s very different with others who don’t fall into the inner most later if the onion.

    in reply to: Son left unexpectedly #430703
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    I needed to be reminded of this. Thank you. Thank you! I’m reflecting on how much love we shared, that he was a really really good person, he had really high morals for himself so unusual in someone so young, and surely we essentially stay who we are at our core?

    There’s no chance of a girlfriend moving into his father’s 😂 😂 oh if only, but that will never happen. I hope it’s not a health issue for either of us. A young person doesn’t need to face that as well as navigating their way to adulthood in this difficult old world.

    I’m praying for the best outcome.

    in reply to: Son left unexpectedly #430651
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    I do hope that space felt filled just a little. You deserve to be cared about. Something good came out of those mothers, the hurt, all of it. We did.

    I wonder if my son will find his way back to me. I keep comparing myself to my mother and wondering what I did that was so awful for him he chose this pathway. Logically I don’t think I did something awful, but my whole life I’ve looked within for the answers for why painful things happen, so I can somehow avoid bad things. I’ve done that a fair bit this week. I went to my default survival emotional state, the one I spent my childhood and early adulthood in, the one I’ve been in a lot since he left. Consciously moving through it, it won’t rule me!

    in reply to: Fear, Anxiety and Healing #430649
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    🥹💙🫂

    I have no words

    in reply to: Son left unexpectedly #430552
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    I have finally calmed. The conversation with my cousin really hit me hard. His father hates me and, rather than say no he doesn’t etc, my cousin was honest. He said, ‘nothing you do or say will change that and it’s on him not you.’ Seeing as I’ve never had anything to do with my uncle his opinions are entirely made up of what my mother says to him. Yup, present tense. My cousin put that fact forward but I’d already worked it out for myself.

    I’m not devastated my uncle hates me. I just walked away from our conversation feeling so anxious. Anxious is a gentle word for it but I can’t think of a better one. So much emotion towards other things came about just because him hating me was finally spoken about.

    My lovely mother. The one who blamed everyone for her losing her children, blames her children for who they are, twists and turns every story so she is the hero and I’m the villain. Every move she ever made was nasty, purely evil sometimes, but she tells people I did and said the things she did and said, and she was the victim.

    Anyway, life like that. Luckily it’s been chaotically busy at work and in my spare time I’ve done my favourite thing or watched too much Netflix 😂 way to get through!

    How are you? I read your other post. I agree, the feelings carried now have been carried since birth. Why did they have us? I know, the answer doesn’t fix the issue. I don’t know how to fill the void. Only one person could and they didn’t. It’s a basic necessary emotion as important as food is for survival.

    Sorry I don’t have any answers but I’m with you.

    in reply to: Son left unexpectedly #430402
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    I will come back to this. I caught up with my cousin. Lovely cousin. We we share the same family so I’m rattled. I’m feeling extremely anxious so I need to settle myself. Normally, I wish we didn’t have half of a world that separates us, but this moment I don’t know if I could do the intensity of emotion the topics of conversion brought up.

    in reply to: Son left unexpectedly #430368
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    PS so I don’t muck up your topic and I feel the need to sympathise, I read what you said, and I feel it in my soul. I used to wish I was adopted so I could be rescued. I was jealous of orphan children. Their lives seemed so much nicer than mine. Because in many ways their lives were nicer. That song that says: No mumma’s kisses, and no daddy’s smiles, nobody wants me, I’m nobody’s child. I knew how that felt. Nobody wanted me, nobody cared what happened to me, they turned away from it and told themselves it wasn’t their business.

    A few years ago I spent a meal with an aunt I hadn’t seen in more than 35 years who was attending a visit to my dying father. She was trying to get me to be reasonable and go and make up with him, but that’s another story for another time, and I had gone through the motions for his sake and my future emotional wellbeing in any case. I vaguely explained things from childhood that were the reason for our estrangement and she said she didn’t know these things happened to me. I said, ‘if your daughter had displayed some of the behaviours I displayed, you would have jumped into action, because you would have known something happening was very wrong. You would have protected her.’

    Instead, every single human who saw turned the other way and ignored.

    I know you know how that feels <3

    in reply to: Son left unexpectedly #430367
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    This is the story of parental betrayal, a betrayal passed on from one generation to the next: your mother must have loved her father, and he betrayed her love. You loved your mother, and she betrayed your love.

    I grew up with my father’s father, but you are right in my mother being betrayed.

    Mother did not have a good mother. I never knew my grandmother on mother’s side because she shot herself when I was a small child living with my father’s family. Oddly, I knew that she had died. Father’s father informed us of some things. He was very pleased to tell us mother had remarried, something I didn’t really understand the meaning of as a small child, but I’m sure he thought it would build negativity towards her. It didn’t work. I only ever felt sympathy and understanding for my mother up until the last year. It’s evolving into questioning the pretty picture I created in my mind, the one where she loves me and is perfect, and the horrible things she says and does are just from the terrible, traumatic, awful life she’s had. She really did not have a nice childhood, or early adulthood, so who she is a direct result of what she was given as a child. I don’t understand how that translates to being the hurtful person she is to me, her daughter, but it’s the reason why she’s who she is.

    but you didn’t proceed to betray your children; she misrepresented herself, you present your self with honesty. Two women taking very different routes, different responses to betrayal.

    I so very much hope I didn’t betray mine. This one leaving the way he has feels like I failed in every aspect. Hopefully he will live out the parts of his life he couldn’t live alongside me, and when he’s got whatever he needed from them, he will be comfortable coming back. He had things he wanted to do that he couldn’t do living with me because he knew I would not approve, he knew they would hurt me because they would hurt him, and that he couldn’t sneak around doing them because it would show.  But the short-term gains of doing them were more important than the long-term losses, so he took the route that gave him unhindered ability to do as he wished.

    I start to see bits and pieces of the bigger picture as I read your words. I get off track a lot when I reply and end up deleting most of what I type, but I’m starting to wrap my head around things, starting to have an emotion that isn’t total loss and devastation.

    Thank you for taking the time with me. You have so much knowledge and ability to extract knowledge. I think I’m fairly good at knowledge gathering but I often don’t find knowledge – my fault, I get stuck feeling awful and give up.

    Yesterday I took part in my risky activity and it was totally unrisky to the maxxxxx. I traversed the highways and the byways, well, mostly highways, and nothing remotely disturbing happened. I know that is an enigmatic thing to say, but I prefer not to publicly say what my private passion is, as I don’t want to give too many facts about myself out. What we say on this forum is not hidden from google searches. Also, I don’t do anything illegal or weird in case you’re wondering!!

    in reply to: Son left unexpectedly #430341
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    When I was growing up my grandfather used to say awful things about my mother. I had no way of knowing if they were true, and didn’t understand what they meant, just that she was wicked. That’s the one time in my life I argued and got angry. I was so hurt and angry he said those things even if I didn’t know what they meant. I argued, with almost rage, with him and got sent to my room. It’s a wonder I didn’t get flogged but I don’t remember being hit for it. He normally would not have tolerated that sort of thing from anyone.

    Relatives on my mother’s side have confirmed that what he said is mainly true.

    Aside from that, she’s always maintained how awful her life was losing her children. It took my children recently pointing out that she didn’t try to stay connected with us and they said I would have moved heaven and earth to be near them. Which is true. I would have done anything to be near them. And she didn’t do anything. She built her version of a happy life and lived that. I can start to see that the excuses she gave for failed contact are untrue. It’s taken a very long time to even begin to evaluate her and her actions, because she’s been so high up on the pedestal I gave her, so important to the little person inside me, and so high up on the moral high ground she gives herself.

    When I moved to her to get to know her she only called me vicious things. She waited till I was here though, and when the only solution I could see to fix it was to go back to where I came from, there were even more vicious things to say which destroyed me entirely. So I stayed and lived a life of trying to get her approval and silently carrying everything she said I was in my heart that was so broken.

    There was all kinds of things in my childhood but I can begin to think that her words have been the worst. Yet society thinks being beaten, starved, locked away for days, is worse.

    As I said, she cut me out of her life a couple of years ago. About six months ago, in despair, I sent her an email saying: I wish I’d never loved or trusted you.

    I was so hurt at the time, because several unforgivable things she’d done had finally proved how she really felt about me, but after I clicked on send I was horrified I’d done that. The shame I felt in saying such a huge hurtful thing made me feel sick and shaky. I felt like that for months. After a while I started to be able to feel less awful about it. Now a big part of me thinks she deserves every last word. And I hope she hasn’t changed her email address. So I do truly believe she deserved those words.

    Thank you for reading. This aloneness isn’t how I pictured life. I feel like that coyote baby only no one’s coming.

    in reply to: Son left unexpectedly #430316
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    <p style=”text-align: left;”>It sounds like a magical place with just enough of the wilds in it to help the world seem far away. It sounds like a nice (and scary) place to walk. You’re a legend in your own lunch box!</p>
    I’m feeling alone and a bit sad today. There was a time I practised feeling emotions but insisting on my brain being silent. I think I started to feel less hurt, not sure though, because I have forgotten to do this for a while. So I’m here letting hurt flow through me without thoughts. I only remembered this way of letting hurt out when I read you take me on your walks. Thank you.

    in reply to: Son left unexpectedly #430307
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    Fine and dandy works for me. How did Anita the wild animal snack go on this particular giggly walk? 😂

    in reply to: Fear, Anxiety and Healing #430306
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    there were other people there, guests, she looked at me with hate, a wanting to see me hurt, but not having the opportunity (being that there were guests there) to make me hurt. Oh, how deprived she was, my poor mother.

    I am not being cynical (or sarcastic, whatever the word is) in typing what I just typed above: part of me feels sorry for her for not being able to express what she felt, having to hold it in.

    To love someone who hates you…

    Your mother was not poor, she was nothing to feel any sympathy towards whatever, just a horror. I relate to loving mine. I’ve never asked myself if she loved me though. My awareness was how much she said and did things that hurt me, that she thought of me as the lowest of the low, and no matter how hard I tried I never made the grade. Like yours she had her public persona. I loved it when people visited because her mood was nice. She ignored me, but I didn’t notice that, I just felt better when people visited so I wanted them to visit more.

    Sorry I’ve not exactly adhered to the above. I should have said this prior to it. I’m not exactly good at not responding. And I really wanted you to know your mother sucks.

    in reply to: Fear, Anxiety and Healing #430235
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    I will reply when I turn my computer on. But. As usual. I’m about to rush again after a sneaky phone moment.

    in reply to: Son left unexpectedly #430234
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    I had a picture in my mind of enjoying your giggly walk and the wild animals creeping along behind you with their pointy teeth ready for a snack.

    I haven’t had a crash and burn for about three years now, but every time I go I have to psych myself up, so hats two or three times per week my stomach is churning and I procrastinate for ages. Once in doing it though, heavenly! There’s no room for anything other than being in the moment, being aware of only don’t what you’re doing, and my fear drains away.

    Maybe tomorrow I’ll have time as I have the day off work!

    How are you travelling? Also, do they mind if topics go very off topic like I’m doing?

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