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PeterParticipant
I liked Martin Kimani from Kenya UN speech.
Putin’s desire to return to a time when ‘Russia was Great again’ is a good example of why getting stuck in ones past and attempting toĀ return to a time that has passed is such a unhealthy approach to life. We need to come to terms with our past but not try to recreate it as if one could step in the same river twice – āNo man ever steps in the same river twice, for it’s not the same river and he’s not the same man.ā
Putin had every opportunity to improve the lives of his people but he chose to steel from them instead. Even he and his minions didn’t trust Russia as they took the money they stole out of Russia. When I hear of men like Putin I always have the sameĀ question – Why? What’s the point
Martin Kimani
This situation echoes our history. Kenya and almost every African country was birthed by the ending of empire. Our borders were not of our own drawing. They were drawn in the distant colonial metropoles of London, Paris, and Lisbon, with no regard for the ancient nations that they cleaved apart.
Today, across the border of every single African country, live our countrymen with whom we share deep historical, cultural, and linguistic bonds. At independence, had we chosen to pursue states on the basis of ethnic, racial, or religious homogeneity, we would still be waging bloody wars these many decades later.
Instead, we agreed that we would settle for the borders that we inherited, but we would still pursue continental political, economic, and legal integration. Rather than form nations that looked ever backwards into history with a dangerous nostalgia, we chose to look forward to a greatness none of our many nations and peoples had ever known. We chose to follow the rules of the Organisation of African Unity and the United Nations charter, not because our borders satisfied us, but because we wanted something greater, forged in peace.
We believe that all states formed from empires that have collapsed or retreated have many peoples in them yearning for integration with peoples in neighboring states. This is normal and understandable. After all, who does not want to be joined to their brethren and to make common purpose with them? However, Kenya rejects such a yearning from being pursued by force. We must complete our recovery from the embers of dead empires in a way that does not plunge us back into new forms of domination and oppression.
We rejected irredentism and expansionism on any basis, including racial, ethnic, religious, or cultural factors. We — We reject it again today. Kenya registers its strong concern and opposition to the recognition of Donetsk and Luhansk as independent states. We further strongly condemn the trend in the last few decades of powerful states, including members of this Security Council, breaching international law with little regard.
PeterParticipantThanks for posting Pink
I’m not obsessing, or trying not to, but also find my myself triggered and angry. I just don’t understand why and have no advice as I try to work out my emotions.
Has anyone watched the Game of Thrones? How everyone was so disappointed by the ending. All that scheming, all the wars, all the killing and in the end nothing changed (other the their were a lot less people).Ā Ā The world was not a better place, peoples lives were not improved…. What was the point?Ā Of course that may have been the point War is absurd.
One person, one of the wealthiest in the world and this is what he decides to do? For what?Ā Ā Imagine if the man would have turned his attention on making the lives of his people better instead of robbing them.Ā I suspect that’s why he hates the Ukraine – they chose independence and the lives of the people were getting better not a good example for the Russian people…
Sorry venting, but sometimes venting helps
PeterParticipantHoneyBlossom
Honeyblossom just came into my head not so much because I feel it represents me ā more that it is something I like- a flower which sustains life and healing ā although I have been told I have honey blonde hair!
I believe that such things arise from our depths, like dreams, to revival something, a truth, a direction.. about our true Self that we are not yet conscious of or fully integrated.
You asked about meditation and their is a practice of focusing on breath as you repeat a mantra.
I tried it using the words honey and blossom and was surprised that the word Honey felt more natural on the inhale while Blossom on the exhale. Breathing in honey, exhaling Blossom…
Bees make honey by drinking in the nectar of the flowers blossom so one might imagine that the more natural rhythm would be of breathing in blossom and exhaling honey. So what might this seeming opposite, inhaling honey exhaling blossoms point to?
Perhaps a time for all things, a time to be honey and a time to be the flower, A time to give and a time to receive..Ā begs the question when does honey give and when does it receive, when does the blossom give when does it receive? The blossom giving of itself to make honey, the honey giving of itself to give the blossom meaning…Ā The opposites begin to fade, giving and receiving existing together in the same moment.
Perhaps joined in this paradox the blossom can revel in the joy of being a blossom? (I loved the book ‘A Dogs Purpose’. many mistake all the things the dog does through its many lives as its purpose but the reality was the Dogs’ purpose was being a Dog all the things it did it did because is was it embraced being true to its Dog nature)
The above is a example of meditation and contemplation on what arises, at least my version of it.Ā Or perhaps its active imagination.. All good.
Even that little exercise above left me feeling calmer some how. Perhaps I too could be a blossom? Perhaps that is enough in this moment when the world seems so dark… so I thank you for that.
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PeterParticipantHi HoneyBlossom
How to meditate? I m sure if you search just on this site alone you will find many methods and adviceĀ Better then I could give and each person is different so like all things the first step is to start. There is no wrong way. Actually that is one peace of advice I could offer – try not to label, measure judge… your attempts to meditate as that will most certainly increase the monkey mind – Trying to quite ones inner thoughts can amplify them, the more we try to stop them the more we unintentionally cling to them. The intention is to notice the thoughts and let them pass without attaching to them. (Some might say the intention is to not have any thoughts but that too is a thought and if attached to, well your back to were you started)
There is also contemplation which is similar but a little different then meditation. In contemplation you might find a quite space and contemplate this sadness you experience. This is a heart exercise not a head one, more listening then filling the space with thoughts.Ā A kind of silent “prayer” that is truly silent. No pleading, no hoping, no if only’s, just a listing to the heart.
I like your Avatar name ‘HoneyBlossom’Ā Why did you choose it?
If you found a quite space, got comfortable, and breathed in and out those words Honey, Blossom, Honey, Blossom and then sat in contemplative silence for a while , listening, what do you feel?
What does your naming of yourself say about your true self?
Could you bring that feeling with you as you engage with the stuff of life?PeterParticipantHi HoneyBlossom
Never say never as they say which I know isn’t helpful and in a way makes the problem even more difficult:Ā How does one stay open to opportunity while accepting what is in the moment.
My own experience is that the older I get the more I am convinced that relationship with another as I imagine one could be… isn’t meant for me.Ā In other words I have become set in my ways and I suspect it would take a very understanding, patient, centered woman that wanted to take the time…
Sorry off track…Ā SĆøren Kierkegaard noted that āThe most painful state of being is remembering the future, particularly the one you’ll never have.ā this I believe is at the heart of such sadness of accepting what we cannot forget hoping for and dreaming of. And so we mourn never really accepting what we have accepted.
Stuck in such a loopĀ how could someone not be sad.
My hope is that by recognizing that one is in such a loop is the first step to getting out of it. And like a getting stuck in a rip tide the more you struggle the more time one spends under water.Ā A practice of mediation may help.
In this practice one can feel ones sadness without ‘being’ sad. (You have the emotion of sadness but you are not your emotions.) There is a time for all things – even times of feeling sad.- This reply was modified 2 years, 10 months ago by Peter.
February 14, 2022 at 12:54 pm in reply to: Searching For Stillness, Uninvolved parents and Now I am a lost adult #392749PeterParticipantHi Zita
There is a lot of chaos inside me and I keep searching for that stillness.
Like to take another shot at this.
Stillness isn’t something one can find by searching for it…
One can be still – Contemplate the difference between searching and being..Before Meditation repeat these words
āI ask of my soul, be still and wait without hope, for hope would be hope for the wrong thing; wait without love, for love would be love of the wrong thing; there is yet faith, but the faith and the love are all in the waiting. Wait without thought, for you are not ready for thought: So the darkness shall be the light, and the stillness the dancing.ā ā T.S. EliotPeterParticipantHi Kilian
I heard that the last thoughts one has determine oneās rebirth
The Tibetan: āLiberation in the Intermediate State Through Hearingā) also called Tibetan Book of the Dead does imply Karma is a factor in rebirth.Ā Perhaps ones Karma could be influenced by ones last thoughts or one last thoughts could be a indication of ones Karma. That said OCD thoughts would not count as last thoughts as they tend to be more surface noise then what one really thinks and believes, ones true thoughts.Ā That’s even difficult to ‘know‘ for the most enlightened person
Note; I do not believe Karma has anything to do with Justice, Reward, Punishment all of which belong to the world of ego and measurement. Such things don’t exist in nature.
Karma or Action suggest that what we do, who we are has consequence. Kick a rock and you break your toe. Breaking your tow isn’t Karma, though it may be the result of ones Karma. As in what made you think, and act on that thinking, that kicking a rock was a good idea.
For me Karma is related to the idea the “We see/experience the world as we are not as it is“.Ā Ones karma acting like glasses through which we see and expect to see. Similarly Einstein’s Statement – “No Problem Can Be Solved From The Same Level Of Consciousness That Created It” – ones karma in away is related to one level of consciousness. We are attracted to our level. Thus in the progression of the life cycle – birth – death – rebirth one tendency to to be attracted to what we know, ones level of awareness while fearing the other higher levels .Ā (even though or maybe because the higher levels are so bright)
I view the life cycle of Birth – Death – Rebirth as the reality of each breathe we take. Meaning each breath is a opportunity to be reborn into a higher level and sadly lower one.Ā I would argue that every major even minor life change is a kind of dying. Many changes require the letting go of ego, control and that always feels like a dying to the ego. How we manage that change, that death ‘determines’ our ‘Rebirth.
From that perspective if one believes that cycle is repeated after one physically dies one will have had a lot of practice during ones life time to calmly embrace the light and not to fear it. As a last thought that might be a pretty good one.
PeterParticipantGautama sits under the tree and achieves enlightenment and in that moment is given a choice to remain in nirvana or return (as all hero’s must) to teach what cannot be taught. Gautama knew that most would relate to the teachings as if they were the destination mistaking the map for theĀ territory. (even as all of the teachings warn not to do that)
I’ve often thought that such a paradox would be enough to boot one right out of nirvana and into frustration. Still the Buddha agrees to return and teach as a enlightened one and I wonder if this is why he laughs.I’ve also wondered about all those Zen stories where the Buddha teaches and someone hearing becomes immediately enlightened in that moment. I imagen this now enlightened person looking into the Buddha eyes to mark the moment – maybe the Buddha gives him a wink or some other form of recognition… but then the Buddha winks at everyone. I imagen this now enlightened person waking out of the temple, perhaps in a state of contentment, maybe even bliss and then stepping in dog poop.Ā I wonder if this person remains enlightened? I wonder if this is why the Buddha is so often depicted as laughing.
āBefore one studies Zen, mountains are mountains and waters are waters; after a first glimpse into the truth of Zen, mountains are no longer mountains and waters are no longer waters; after enlightenment, mountains are once again mountains and waters once again waters.ā Dogen
PeterParticipantCanary
I believe this is what I am doing! The person that hurt me explicitly stated that they felt no remorse for their actions, so I think I am holding onto that because I am hoping that they can feel guilty for their actionsā¦ and that is the reason I feel so much anger/sadness.
Their is another the Art of Forgiveness: The decision to tell the person you are working on forgiving that they are forgiven as thier is a possibility they will react negatively – saying things like I don’t need your forgiveness, I didn’t do any thing wrong, what are you accusing me off – ‘sticking a finger’ into the wound your working on healing.
My feelings are that the practice of forgiveness is very personal and about the practitioner. It is a practice that helps the wounded heal. There is of course a practice of asking forgiveness and all that that entails however the two practices are not the same thing.Ā Then their is the whole learning to Forgive oneself process… Oh how we make our lives difficult
Be kind to yourself as you work your way through your past. As mentioned I still fall for the trap of hanging on to my hurt and anger, my victimization, thinking that by doing so I am punishing the one that hurt me. If I take a breath I usually noticeĀ and let it go, even have a laugh at myself.
January 27, 2022 at 8:12 am in reply to: Is there anyone kind enough to give me some advice? #391895PeterParticipantAs a person that tends to live in my head, I get it Greg
The tendency to project my insecurities in to silences between encounters with others… what if they think this or that about me, what if, what if…Being able to communicate clearly and establishing healthy boundaries can help. Sadly most of us haven’t been taught how to commutate skillfully in such situations.Ā (just knowing what ones boundaries, making them conscious, is not a easy task.)
Under similar circumstances a philosopher Tom Morris gave me the following advice or rule. The rule of Charity. The rule of Charity states that if you experience a event and thier are multiple possible explanations and you have no way of determining which is the correct explanations or you have decide not to take the time to determine which is the correct explanation then choose the better explanation.
It is possible that this woman is interested in you, enjoys making new acquittances,Ā likes communicating with people from around the world, pities you, is setting you up for some scam, is a murder looking for the next victim… š
So many what if’s!You could ask her about each of those possibilities to determine which is true..Ā Ā or you could choose to pick the most kindest explanation which in this case may be she finds you interesting.
When your not engaged with your insecurities your projecting on the interaction you seem to beĀ your enjoying the interactions so why can’t that be enough in the present moment? Tomorrow will bring what tomorrow will bring.
As for the question ‘Why do you find it easier to engage with those farther away and or online (virtually) and not closer at hand in the real world… A problem many today have… i
Asking myself that question I might wonder if I find it easier. That a virtual connection that doesn’t work out wont hurt as much as a connection where I actually interacted with the person in the ‘real’ world doesn’t. Especially if I might run into them from time to time. But that’s mePeterParticipantHi Canary
My experience of forgiveness is that it isn’t something we do once and then as if by magic all the hurt memory’s and feelings are gone. Forgiveness is a skill and process that requires practice – perhaps better to say Forgiveness is a practice like… meditation. If you ever tried meditation you might have notice that some attempts go better then others and that ok, there will always be more opportunities to practice š
I found it helpful to note that forgiveness does not mean a person is no longer responsible or accountable for thier actions. It means we can hold them accountable without having to attach to our anger and hurt. We experience hurt and anger vice ‘I am’ hurt…
Forgiveness is more of practice of “forgetting” as in not dwelling on the memory. When we notice we are dwelling we practiceĀ acknowledging the feelings and letting them go/flow.
Forgiveness is a practice of forgoing as in letting go the desire to ‘hurt back’ and or the imagining of ‘if only’, a attempt to change the past and force it to comply to your will your control (almost always ego) . The next time you are experiencing these painful memories and emotions ask yourself if a part of you could be doing so with the subconscious hope that by holding on to your pain you are punishing the one you hurt? (I can tell you that does not work but I still fall for that trap)It might also be helpful to remind yourself that when you find yourself in the moments when the memory arise that it is the memory that is recreating the emotions, not the specific event that happened in the specific space and time. And memory my friend is a trickster. When a experience moves to memory it is no longer the experience as it was, as we have likely projected a lot of our shadow onto it.
I agree with Anita that quality therapy could help you identify your ‘old feelings’. These feelings will likely still arise from time to time, but with help, the amount of time hold onto them will lesson until the day you will just notice – hello old friends, I see you,Ā I do not wish to dwell today. I have memories I am not my memories, I have emotions, I am not my emotions….Ā Oh look I see what in the present has triggered the memory… I also see that this present is not that experience in the past… I have taken what I have learned from the past and better able to deal with what is happening now…
January 26, 2022 at 12:59 pm in reply to: Is there anyone kind enough to give me some advice? #391880PeterParticipantHi Greg
I don’t do the Instagram thing so don’t know much the expected etiquette (Just googled that and apparently thier are a lot of suggested rules)We live in a world with a lot of focus on immediate gratification. I.E when we text or such we desire a immediate response and become agitated (making up what if stories) when that desire isn’t met.Ā But why should that be?
Not that long ago persons in your situation would write letters with weeks in between. The anticipation of receiving a letter can be enjoyable….
In your shoes I might approach the Instagram thing the same way. This will require you to be able to communicate your boundaries.Ā Let her know you would like to continue communicating with her without the expectation of immediate responses… as if you were writing letters a suitable delay could be agreed on.
And perhaps a promise that if either of you wish to stop the communication you will let each other know. (no ghosting)In Buddhist terms – What is causing you the headache is your desire and attachment to wanting what you want right now which has very little to do with this woman. She isn’t giving you the headache your are… Imagine enjoying the communications without such attachments.
PeterParticipantIf one is open to love then is one seeking love? If one is open to love then will one find love?
In the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy –Ā a character named “Prak,” who “knows all that is true,” confirms that 42 is indeed The Answer to the Ultimate question – (The Ultimate question was What is 6 x 9 – which was the answer to the question What is the meaning of life 6 x 9 = 42),
The joke goes:
āWhat do you get if you multiply six by nine?”
“Six by nine. Forty two.”
“That’s it. That’s all there is.”
“I always thought something was fundamentally wrong with the universeāOf course thier is another possibility, that there is nothing wrong with the universe as it is but something wrong with our math (how we measure).
I wonder if that is the same as our questions about Love? Love is often given as the answer as to the meaning of Life and or Love = Life…. What if Love = 42….Ā and all the messy parts of life, at some perspective is also always only Love?
In the Hitchhiker Guide the problem wasn’t in the universe or the math but that if the Answer and The Ultimate Question wasĀ known in the same universe, they would cancel each other out and take the Universe with them, to be replaced by something even more bizarre and that it may have already happened.
I often wonder if their might not be some truth to that š There is a Buddhist thought that that for those who have completed their task, found thier question to thier answer… become no more….
I’ve always like Five for Fighting’s song the Riddle
There was a man back in ninety-five
Whose heart ran out of summers
But before he died, I asked him
Wait, what’s the sense in life?
Come over me, come over me?He said, son why you got to sing that tune?
Catch a Dylan song or some eclipse of the moon?
Let an angel swing and make you swoon
Then you will see, you will seeThen he said, here’s a riddle for you
Find the answer, there’s a reason for the world
You and IPicked up my kid from school today
Did you learn anything?
‘Cause in the world today
You can’t live in a castle far away
Now talk to me, come talk to meHe said, dad I’m big, but we’re smaller than small
In the scheme of things, well we’re nothing at all
Still every mother’s child sings a lonely song
So play with me, come play with meAnd hey dad, here’s a riddle for you
Find the answer, there’s a reason for the world
You and I?I said, son for all I’ve told you
When you get right down to the
Reason for the world who am I?There are secrets that we still have left to find
There have been mysteries from the beginning of time
There are answers we’re not wise enough to see
He said, you looking for a clue?
I love you freeThe batter swings and the summer flies
As I look into my angel’s eyes
A song plays on while the moon is hiding over me
Something comes over meI guess we’re big and I guess we’re small
If you think about it man you know we got it all
‘Cause we’re all we got on this bouncing ball
And I love you free, I love you freelyHere’s a riddle for you
Find the answer, there’s a reason for the world
You and II Love you free… and if I can love myself as I love others… I love me free…
PeterParticipantTo me ego is the identity one assigns to themselves. The concept me being my own entity separate from others comes from the ego. And I had mentioned earlier that I think the ego is there to protect us. Surely, life would be a lot easier if we let go of my understanding of ego because the number of things that matter would dramatically reduce. But at the same time, if I donāt have that ego wouldnāt it be hard to protect myself from others?
In the first sentence you make the statement – “The ego is the identity” (ego = identity) You can how suffering might result. I am a athlete, my self of self, my identity is attached to my athletic ability. I break my leg and can no longer perform. Who am I? Ego experienced as identify is prone to Inflation (Feelings that we are better than we are. I am better than you because I am a better athlete) and Deflation (I am nothing because you are a better athlete then I).Ā Perhaps you notice how both inflation and deflation are measurements that separate us from the other. Not in the healthy way that would aid someone to learning to live in harmony with others and themselves. Nothing produces more conflict, tribalism, disharmony then when ego = identity and it feels threatened.
How do I see ego? I picture ego as the part of ourselves that communicates experience. A tool we use to help one understand, learn, keep safe, become conscious…. I have an ego, it is useful, I am not my ego.
My feeling is that in the East there is a tendency to negate the ego often resulting in a lack of energy to engage, while in the West a tendency toward over identifying with ego resulting in a need to dominate, consume, own…
As you mentioned ego plays a important role in keeping one safe, the question might be then is how it does so? Ego as Identity? or Ego as container, communicator,Ā boundaries?
I mentioned Jung’s statement – ‘It take a healthy ego to let go of ego’. Jung suggested that the first half of life task was to develop a healthy container (ego). A neither inflated nor deflated sense of self, healthy boundaries that was capable of providing for itself, family, society…) The second half of life task involves the paradox of separating oneself from others, which at the same time recognizes the other as/in themselves. Which naturally flows into compassion for ourselves and others. A drop in the ocean contains the ocean…
This was a lesson I also learned in dancing. When you start to take classes to learn the rhythms and rules. A waltz looks like this, a Cha Cha like this. Eventually the student will be told that to dance they must ‘forget‘ what they learned to dance. But not until they developed the ‘container’. To break the rules, one must know the rules. Forget is probably the wrong word as what happens is that the student learns to Trust what they learned, trust that the body knows (Body always knew how to dance, the student must work for that which the body already knows. Like the statue that already exists in the stone)
Another story
A man traveling along a path came to a great expanse of water. As he stood on the shore, he realized there were dangers and discomforts all about. But the other shore appeared safe and inviting. The man looked for a boat or a bridge and found neither. But with great effort he gathered grass, twigs and branches and tied them all together to make a simple raft. Relying on the raft to keep himself afloat, the man paddled with his hands and feet and reached the safety of the other shore. He could continue his journey on dry land.
Now, what would he do with his makeshift raft? Would he drag it along with him or leave it behind? He would leave it, the Buddha said. Then the Buddha explained that the dharma is like a raft. It is useful for crossing over but not for holding onto….
I agree with Tommy’s concern with the word ‘seek’Ā as we tend to see the world as we are not as it is, thier will be a tendency to find what we expect to find.
Note however that Seek does not stand alone in the formula. The seeker seeks, knocks and waits.Ā Note how the knock (not passive) creates vibrations…. and puts into motion… as we wait the ripples pushing aside that which may cloud our vision, the water better able to reflect what is…..
Here is a riddle for you. When does a seeker become a finder?
PeterParticipantCan you really have a good life if everyone is identifying with their ego and working in their best interest. Like at work, letās say I let go of my ego and take work from others as well, isnāt it against my best interest. I would be giving away from energy, no?
I don’t think so. When you say ‘let go of my ego’ what do you think that means?
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