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PeterParticipantI think we have all experienced the anxiety and disillusionment you are talking about. In the age of “information” and 24/7 news where 90% of the stories we hear have a negative connotation its no wonder. As such there is nothing “wrong” with your thinking, however this might be more of an issue of focus/mindfulness. What you are allowing your consciousness to remain focused on.
You ask how you might correct this thinking.
I think the tools of compassion and mindfulness might be helpful. Compassion in this case for your thinking and anxiety instead of judgment. Such a perspective opens the door to mindfulness where you might notice such thinking and anxiety as observations and so doing allow them to pass. For example, this news story disappoints me and fills me with anxiety. I am sorry such things happen and that people can behave this way. I see I can also act in hurtful ways and feel compassion for others and myself (while still holding myself and others accountable. Not doing so would not be Love). Hurtful things might/will happen to myself and family and for those things I can control I will attend to the rest I let go and lean on my faith that Life (which includes death) is Love.
Mindfulness may also help you better direct your consciousness. Consciousness is attracted to ‘loud noises’, things we are afraid of, fear, possible trouble. Mindfulness teaches us to notice without fixating on what we become aware of and in this way, respond or react as the needs arise. We learn to better direct our consciousness.
When you think of it is really is a waist of time to worry about a future that never happens. Track all the things you worried about against what actually happens and you will likely notice that a large percentage never occurred. You can and should prepare for possible outcomes but once you do worry has served its purpose. Mindfulness will help you let it go.
Lastly “the car goes were the eyes go” meaning our mind/thinking goes were our eyes go. There is far more goodness and beauty in the world then ugliness. Its true. Just look around you and direct your awareness to the wonder.
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PeterParticipantI’m not a Buddhist, a practitioner of religious origination, so may answeres won’t be any help to you.
We are all Buda’s – potential for Buda consciousness, Christ Consciousness, Philosophers Stone, The Still Point – All same.
Why do you believe there is suffering within our world? – The price of Consciousness/being awake
How does this impact the way you live your life? Life happens; you can say No to it or say Yes it, how you answered will influence your experience and story you create for yourself.
What do you believe happens after you die? Return to the collective unconscious
What do you believe your purpose in life? That for most people such questions will only lead to despair so ought not be asked – Unskillful question – notice that when you ‘feel’ purposeful, like joy, you never ask the question, you just are.
Please explain how being a Buddhist and following their traditions answers the ultimate question of the meaning of life? Life has no purpose/meaning, each of us IS meaning/purpose and we bring it to Life! There is no point in asking the question when YOU are the answer. Go experience Life.
PeterParticipantWithout imperfections, we would remain unconscious of ourselves.
PeterParticipantRecommend the book: Art of Forgiving: When You Need to Forgive and Don’t Know How – Lewis B. Smedes
PeterParticipantEach of us is unique and love is experienced and expressed on many different levels. Most of us, when we talk about love are often talking about something else like relationship, living together, sex… all components of love but never the complete picture in and of themselves.
If your a thinking type that likes to analyze feelings and have a concept of love that is romanticized perhaps seeking that feeling of being overwhelmed by the need for someone – and calling that love. Your probably going to be disappointed. I think a place to start is defining for yourself what love is and then not overthink it.
PeterParticipant“What was really needed was a fundamental change in our attitude toward life. We had to learn ourselves and, furthermore, we had to teach the despairing men, that it did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life—daily and hourly. Our question must consist, not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual” – Viktor Frankl
Frankl concludes that the meaning (Purpose) of life is found in every moment of living; life never ceases to have meaning, even in suffering and death
The search for purpose can only lead to despair. It is like hoping to win the lotto when you never by a ticket and still being disappointed. Like searching for the glasses your already wearing. You can’t search for something when you are IT.
The world would be a happier place if we just forgot about this idea of purpose.
PeterParticipantSorry to hear about your situation but glad to hear that your taking the steps you need to take to be safe and take care of yourself.
If its unacceptable for you to live with a person with a drinking problem, then that is your truth and there is not much more you can do until and unless your husband comes to terms with his demons.
I think you have done what you needed to do and that all you can do in the time being is respect the space that was created.
Very much recommend the book ‘How to Be an Adult in Relationships: The Five Keys to Mindful Loving – by David Richo if your ready for that kind of thing
PeterParticipantI have seen to many people get hurt when they don’t respect when someone they care about has asked them not to contact them again. (After having all the usual post break up conversations, drama and such. There are usually at least three such encounters – three strikes and your out.)
If you keep calling and telling her you are getting help and going to change, bla, bla, bla… It might work for a time but the odds are against the relationship working out.
If you feel that you need to change then you must do that for yourself and not place that burden onto her. Perhaps once the work is done you might call her, however you must be prepared to learn that she has moved on.
If in time she should wants to contact you, you must be careful that your ready as its likely you will fall back to old habits. You can’t step in the same river twice.
PeterParticipantI also struggle with loneliness though no longer the anxiety about being lonely. I have gotten used to, and even enjoy, be out on my own, and for the most part am ok with it… and then the night comes and I wonder about meaning and purpose, wondering why I should wake in the morning.
I suspect loneliness very much tied to the experience of meaning and purpose and perhaps that is where some of the anxiety comes from.
Sorry that I don’t have any answers
PeterParticipantA love can still be true even if Life requires a relationship to end.
The only way to stop thinking of someone is to stop thinking of them. To stop dwelling on all the could of, should of and if only we can imagine. Thus, the practice of Buddhism to let go of the past. And you will… or you wont
The trick is not to beat yourself up when you do find yourself thinking of her. Just notice the thoughts and let them pass through.
“We are more often frightened than hurt; and we suffer more from imagination than from reality.” -Seneca
“The most painful state of being is remembering a future, particularly the one you’ll never have.” – Kierkegaard
PeterParticipantMy opinion for what its worth is that you must respect her decision and stay away. It hurts, but that is the life is and the best you can do is learn from the experience and deal with the issues that got in your way.
PeterParticipantI was just listing to Clarissa Pinkola Estes telling the story of Skeleton woman. Theater of the imagination
I won’t go into details but the story reminds us that phycological ‘death’ is a necessary part of relationship. When we enter relationship, the task is to learn and grow and that takes a lot of ‘dying’
If I was asked what is the most important quality two people need to have in relationship I would say the ability to learn, and ability not to panic in those times when you don’t like the person you love.
August 22, 2017 at 10:07 am in reply to: Meaning in life ? Existentially frustrated, Need help with avoidance !! #165126
PeterParticipantDoes anyone here wonder if this the sense of not having purpose or meaning is really a experience of loneliness?
Are they the same things?
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PeterParticipantYou might find the following book helpful
How to Be an Adult in Relationships by David Richo
“Most people think of love as a feeling,” says David Richo, “but love is not so much a feeling as a way of being present.”
PeterParticipant“In racing, they say that your car goes where your eyes go. The driver who cannot tear his eyes away from the wall as he spins out of control will meet that wall; the driver who looks down the track as he feels his tires break free will regain control of his vehicle.”― Garth Stein, The Art of Racing in the Rain
When we re-visit past relationships, we tend to be selective about which memories our “eyes” go to.
“Inside each of us resides the truth. But sometimes the truth is hidden in a hall of mirrors. Sometimes we believe we are viewing the real thing, when in fact we are viewing a facsimile, a distortion.” ― Garth Stein
There is always unfinished work when a relationship ends, perhaps even a reason that the relationship ended. When we struggle with a current relationship it is not uncommon to return to the past, if unconsciously, to work out what is happening in the present.
The task is to make the unconscious conscious. What was it in the past relationship that was positive for you and what was experienced as a negative? Are you projecting anything that happened into the past into the present relationship? What lessons have you learned about yourself and which ones are you avoiding? Are you driving towards where you want to go or are you looking at what your afraid you might hit?
“We had a good run, and now it’s over; what’s wrong with that?”― Garth Stein
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