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  • Peter
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    I enjoy Richard Wagamese – Embers, One Ojibway’s Meditations

    Short little meditations on life I found helpful in centering and contemplation.

    Life is Sometimes hard. There are challenges. There are difficulties. There is pain. As a younger man, I sought to avoid pain and difficulty and only caused myself more of the same. these days, I choose to face life head-on —
    and I have become a comet. I arc across the sky of my life, the hard times are the friction that shaves off the worn and tired bits. The more I travel head-on, the more I am shaped, and the things that no longer work or are unnecessary drop away.
    It’s a good way to travel. I believe eventually I will wear away all resistance, until all that’s left of me is light.

    This meditation I came across when I was missing my Mother

    Me: I miss my mother sometimes. Really bad.
    Old Woman: Maybe try missing her really well.
    Me: How do I do that?
    Old Woman: See that sunrise? See how beautiful the colours are? How clar and clean the air feels? How good it fels inside of you?
    Me; Yes. It’s wonderful.
    Old Woman: She lives in that. So maybe just say, ‘Thanks, Mom” when you see and feel things like that.
    ***
    I miss my mother really well now. – Richard Wagamese

    Peter
    Participant

    I feel like a sad pathetic person and am not looking for comforting words but for some direction on how to go about fixing my life by fixing my day-to-day

    I think you answered your own question with the suggestion of taking things day to day, perhaps focusing on steps you can accomplish day by day.

    I personally don’t like the word fix in this context, not sure why…. (thinking out loud) much of our suffering comes from wishing things were other then they were, if only this, should of this… as if such thinking could change our past experiences and changing the past fix our future.  The source of our If only’s, and should of’s tend to be about ego and control , a desire or even demand that life be as we deem it should to be other then as it is. To fix things within that context would likely continue trying to control life as we would will it to be vice engage in life as it is in the moment where we actually have influence to change, inevitably leading to more suffering and stuckness.

    We can’t fix the past or the future, we can however learn and learning better do better. A change in perspective that is more growth orientated then a ‘fixed’ a one. My feeling is that from such a perspective one is more likely be kinder to one self and avoid such labeling as pathetic. Such labeling being unhelpful in the day-to-day approach to change. More of a flow with life then trying push against it.

    Not sure if thier was any advice in that, just thoughts. The following from Auden cam to mind as I was thinking out loud. To move forward we have to let our illusion die, which isn’t saying that we don’t feel what were feeling about our past and such. Only that we don’t hold on to them as if they are the reality of the present. Effectively creating the things we fear

    “We would rather be ruined than changed
    We would rather die in our dread
    Than climb the cross of the moment
    And let our illusions die.”  ― W H Auden

    in reply to: Existing not living #416516
    Peter
    Participant

    Thanks for your story and reminding me/us Lost1Flow that if we can create even just a small space to flow that surprises can happen.

    I wish you well as you re-engage with your flow. 🙂

    Stillness is what creates love,
    Movement is what creates life,
    To be still, Yet still moving
    – That is everything! – Do Hyun Choe

    Movement is  time, stillness is eternity. Realizing the relationship of the temporal moment to the eternal—not moment, but forever—is the sense of life. Realizing how this moment in your life is actually a moment of eternity. (Love) – Joseph Campbell

     

     

    in reply to: Existing not living #416511
    Peter
    Participant

    Good question Lost One Flow

    Came across a book when I was much younger titled ‘Surprised by Joy’. I’ve always liked that title. It hasn’t been my experience that one can ‘find’ joy, seek it out as if it was a something that you could hold onto. My experience of it is that its a something that happens and surprises, the surprise part of the experience of joy.

    This morning I was at a yoga class.  Everyone moving from flow to flow of the routine similar to the other mornings.   Anyway during the class I catch a glimpse  in the mirror of everyone bending and twisting, and could help but wonder of the absurdity of it… but then also a kind of beauty of everyone showing up, struggling through, sometimes if just a moment flowing through.  In that absurdity of the moment I was surprised by joy.

    Each of us it turns out have questioned the sanity of getting up at that early hour, especially those days when we arn’t feeling our best and if asked what is the point couldn’t answer. But you show up, engage with the moment, with life as it is, in all its routine absurd struggle and sometimes surprised by the wonder of it and in the wonder joy?

    Like a yoga class life will find you twisted up in routine of work and family obligations.. but maybe if one creates the space for it, will glance in the mirror and noting the absurdity of all our striving also see the beauty and be surprised by joy.

    I wonder Lost1Flow if the answer to your question is in your avatar name – Create some space within and find the flow.

    in reply to: Does anyone know how to let go of regret? #416497
    Peter
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    Regret, like all emotions when grasped onto blocks flow, traps one in a imagined past of ‘should of’ giving birth in the same moment a mourned for future that cannot be of ‘if only’.

    True regret can point one to different paths in the present and if skillful then released, but my experience and observations is that regret is the emotion we tend to hold onto more then the others. I wonder if thier isn’t a perverse pleasure of holding on to our disappointments and failures so tightly while discounting out gifts so easily.

    The feelings that hurt most, the emotions that sting most, are those that are absurd – The longing for impossible things, precisely because they are impossible; nostalgia for what never was; the desire for what could have been; regret over not being someone else; dissatisfaction with the world’s existence. All these half-tones of the soul’s consciousness create in us a painful landscape, an eternal sunset of what we are.― Fernando Pessoa

    How does one stop? By stopping.  I suspect that stopping is so easily difficult is that we attach our emotions and experience to time.

    “We are living in a culture entirely hypnotized by the illusion of time, in which the so-called present moment is felt as nothing but an infinitesimal hairline between an all-powerfully causative past and an absorbingly important future. We have no present. Our consciousness is almost completely preoccupied with memory and expectation. We do not realize that there never was, is, nor will be any other experience than present experience. We are therefore out of touch with reality. We confuse the world as talked about, described, and measured with the world which actually is. We are sick with a fascination for the useful tools of names and numbers, of symbols, signs, conceptions and ideas…. – J Campbell

    How does one stop? Stop naming and break the dam that hinders flow. We stop by flowing – a ironic paradox .

    Eventually something you love is going to be taken away. And then you will fall to the floor crying. And then, however much later, it is finally happening to you: you’re falling to the floor crying thinking, “I am falling to the floor crying,” but there’s an element of the ridiculous to it, even worse, while you’re on the floor crying you look at the place where the wall meets the floor and you realize you didn’t paint it very well.  ― Richard Siken

    Cry until you laugh… I recognize that person on the floor… We are such wonderous, messy absurd beings.

    in reply to: Irreperably Broken #416333
    Peter
    Participant

    Came across the following today from Power of Myth

    “You must have a room, or a certain hour a day or so, where you do not know what was in the newspapers that morning, you don’t know who your friends are, you don’t know what you owe to anybody, you don’t know what anybody owes to you—but a place where you can simply experience and bring forth what you are and what you might be. This is the place of creative incubation. And first you may find that nothing’s happening there. But if you have a sacred place and use it and take advantage of it, something will happen.”

    This corresponds  to my experience – that creating just a little space each day in which you can empty oneself of self  does bring about change

    in reply to: Irreperably Broken #416299
    Peter
    Participant

    Hi Sprteflower – I like that username – what led you chose that, and did you intentionally leave out the i – sprite  – a small being, human in form, playful and having magical powers? (I wonder if its not time to embrace a little of the sprite in only to see what ‘powers’ such play might revel?)

    We are more often frightened than hurt; and we suffer more from imagination than from reality. – Seneca

    Thanks for sharing your story.

    Your post reminded me of something I read long ago

    If you have a nagging feeling that you do no measure up to the person you imagine you ought to be, the generic label for what you feel i shame. We have shame when we persistently feel that we are not acceptable, maybe unworthy, and are less than the good person we are supposed to be. Shame is a vague undefined heaviness that presses on our spirit, dampens our gratitude for the goodness of life, and slackens the free flow of joy. Shame is a primal feeling, the kind that seeps into and discolors all our other feelings, primarily about ourselves but about almost everyone and everything else in our life as well. 

    Shame can get us in touch with the most beautiful part of ourselves, a warning we that we are becoming a person we do not want to be, But shame is often an unhealthy feeling of un-worth that is distorted, exaggerated, and utterly out of touch with our reality. Most of us carry both kinds of shame – shame we deserve and shame we don’t deserve.  – L B Smedes

    Reading through your post I suspect the shame your experienced is undeserved yet in holding on to this undeserved shame it is also a warning that it is this holding onto this undeserved shame that is leading you into being the  person you do not want to be.  The irony of being caught in a loop of being ashamed about being ashamed, trap I can relate to.

    You mention – My path has been successful from the outside – suggesting that you have overcome the objective experiences of your past, a indication that you will continue to do so and to which you should give your self more credit. It seems it is the inner stories you are telling yourself that you can’t get past. In other words its possible that its language that is keeping you stuck in undeserved shame.

    A meditation practice I like is creating space and stillness as I remind myself that I am not my thoughts, there are thoughts, I am not my memories, their are memories, I am not my emotions, thier are emotions, I am not my past, the past has past, I am not the words I use to tell my stories, there are words. The map is  not the territory, and words are not the things they can only point to, there is no requirement that I hold on the them.

     

    <p lang=”en-US”>“You likely have parts of your own history you’d rather forget, same as I do. But when I actually wrote these things down, when I got up close and personal with them—yes, there was pain, and yes, there was hurt—by giving them a name, I stripped them of their power. And what I learned is that lies (undeserved shame) will always be worth fighting against. Because what you’re left fighting for is the truth, and that is the most freeing thing in the world.”
    ― Joanna Gaines, The Stories We Tell: Every Piece of Your Story Matters</p>

    in reply to: How do I meditate? #416001
    Peter
    Participant

    Just came across this from Ram Das

    The thing about a method is that, for a method to work, it has to trap you. If you try to dilettante your way through, it doesn’t work. You’ve got to become “a meditator.” But if you end up “a meditator,” you lost. You want to end up free, not a meditator.

    There are a lot of people who just end up meditators… until, finally, if it works, it self-destructs and you come through the other end, and you’re free of method.

    That sounds frustrating and it is, however if you can ‘let go’ or ‘let flow’ the frustration the method is more likely to de-construct itself…. and you which may be the point of it all.

    One does not try to meditate, the intention is not to become a meditator, one IS

    in reply to: How do I meditate? #415972
    Peter
    Participant

    When I think about meditation Alan Watts words come to mind.  “If you want to outwit the devil, it is extremely important that you don’t give him advanced notice. Even if you only announce to yourself your intentions, the devil will know, because who do you think the devil is? You”

    Just like when you try to be spontaneous you can’t be spontaneous, when you try to meditate you can’t. Here the words of Yoda ring out. “Their is no try on do“.  In Zen you have Wu wei  which means – non-doing or ‘doing nothing’.  Easier said then done, the ‘saying‘ being part of the problem as ones inner narrator loves to play the devil and fill ones thoughts with words of judgment and measure.

    That said the inner narrator is also a pretty good observer and when focused on the breath this observer might notice the breathing is both voluntary and involuntary. Voluntary as one can choose to take a deep breath, or hold ones breath….Involuntary in the sense that breathing is a happening – a kind Wu Wei. One does not have to understand breathing to breath one does not have to be continually, consciously manipulate the mussels and nervous system to breathe.  The observer might sit mesmerized as breathing as a happening while the narrator  might become anxious and start judging, measuring.

    In art and sport the artist and athlete take lessons, learn the rules, train, practice… but when they create and play the master artist and elite athlete does not think they do. If you have ever taken dance lessons over a period of time you will eventually hear the teacher say you need to learn the rules before you can break them. What they mean is that when you get to the point when you trust what you have learned is in your body. That your ears hear the rhythm without you having to listen, ears hear and the body responds… then your truly dancing.

    Wu Wei. – We work for that which no work is required. We train, we learn then we trust and trusting that we ‘know’ let go of what we learned and do. One sites in Meditation and notices the breath, practicing different kinds of breathing and eventually trust that we ‘know’ without needing to be the knower, breathing a happening, the inner narrator quiets and dances.

    in reply to: A lot of Anxiety and stress Extortion #415954
    Peter
    Participant

    Thanks I would like to meditate but I feel like I can’t rest my mind.

    To still the mind notice the inner narrator.

    Ear’s hear, eyes see, skin sense, tongue taste , heart beats, lungs breathe…. mind narrates.

    Seeing, hearing, tasting… these are happenings. There is no-thing to make happen, happenings happen. Yet the ‘I’ (and language) likes to think it can and so tends to get in the way.

    Your breathing and then someone tells you to breath… what changes? Its funny, if one is asked to be spontaneous can your response to that ask be spontaneous? Even if you might be spontaneous language will prevent you from proving it so the wise remain silent.  Thus we come to the inner narrator.

    In meditation one is asked to breathe and the narrator, narrating on the breathe and maybe even try to take over. I think the idea is that the narrator will get distracted on the breath and turn from a narrator into a silent detached observer of the breathe….

    That kind of works until the narrator gets bored and or uncomfortable when it notices that ‘no I’ is breathing, there is just breathing, just the happening. The narrator realizing that its not and can’t make happenings happen wonders about its own existence. If afraid of such a question it fills the empty space meditation with random thoughts and memories.

    Practicing the practice the inner narrator might notice the problem isn’t existence but with language, the problem of naming everything as if the name is the thing, the narrator might notice it can watch with out naming and still exist. The inner narrator might even find it enjoys the rest and role as observer. The observer with no name, just is.

    Happenings happen, eyes see, ears hear….

    in reply to: Truth: The Whisky Talks #415673
    Peter
    Participant

    I think Lao Tzu would agree.

    Thirty spokes converge upon a single hub,
    It is on the hole in the center that the use of the cart hinges.
    We make a vessel from a lump of clay;
    It is the empty space within the vessel that makes its useful.
    We make the doors and windows for a room;
    But it is these empty spaces that make the room livable.
    Thus while the tangible has advantages,
    It is the intangible that makes it useful.”  Lao Tzu

    Here’s a 4000 year old riddle which may have stated a few people drinking. 🙂
    “Heaven above, heaven below;
    Stars above, stars below.
    All that is over, under shall show.
    Happy who the riddle reads!” – The Hermetic Emerald Tablet

    I was watching the NASA channel where one of the astronauts returning from moon was looking out the window that one moment showed the earth the next the moon the next the sun. And in that moment for him the opposites dissolved into the All or One and the he was not separate from the One.

    From that perspective what is up, what is down, what is in what is out, what is west, what is east, what is good, what is bad, what is birth, what is death, what is a beginning and what is a end?

    Thought experiment.

    How do we measure the present moment?
    Stop time and project yourself out in to space as you watch the earth recedes. 8 billion consciousness experienced the same moment in a multitude of experiences. Continue on this journey past the galaxies and universes and you arrive at the big bang. The Present moment is bigger then big, the eternal ‘Now’ includes the big bang!  As you look within this big bang you notice a drop that is also the All, sitting quietly in a room performing a thought experiment. The present moment smaller then small.

    LOL no drugs required.

    in reply to: Truth: The Whisky Talks #415524
    Peter
    Participant

    We are a drop of water in the ocean

    We are a drop in the ocean and the drop contains the entire ocean.  A circle whose center is everywhere and circumference nowhere. We are not brought into the world but out of it, so cannot be separated from IT. Everything connected, everything belongs.

    LOL and I’m not even Drunk

    We see the world as we are not as it is. The world isn’t broken, the task then isn’t to fix the world (as if we had the power and control to do so, (thinking which is what gets us into these messes) but to clarify how we see ourselves so that we might better see and respond the world as it is.

    My suspicion is that a honest engagement in that task will naturally lead to compassion and contentment (bliss) with the realization we are not separate from each other or the world in which we live.  We become water, we flow….

     

     

    in reply to: Overcoming Habitual Suicidal Ideation #415348
    Peter
    Participant

    Hi Helcat

    These thoughts don’t upset me persay. I can move on pretty quickly from them. I think it’s the idea of it happening that bothers me. Seeing it as something to solve.

    I think you hit the nail on the head. You do the work yet still the thoughts happen, a unwanted reminder of past work and or that more work is required. I find the experience more frustrating then upsetting, which of course only adds fuel to such thoughts. The mind is a amazing thing yet it seems it can’t help itself getting in its own way.

     

    in reply to: Overcoming Habitual Suicidal Ideation #415218
    Peter
    Participant

    To clarify what I think happens. Ego consciousness does not trust the flow that is Life and so fears that death is the end. Worse this ego self not only doesn’t trust the process that is Life this false self attempts to control Life, which it can’t, and so finding itself frustrated, digs in, and digging in wishes to die. The very thing its resisting.

    Essentially the ego self is saying NO to Life which is like spitting in the wind. If true the way out isn’t some imagined UP but though, getting to a place of trusting Life to be Life. A YES that I suspect leads to a further step of a ‘knowing‘ that Life as It Is, is Love.

    in reply to: Overcoming Habitual Suicidal Ideation #415217
    Peter
    Participant

    Hi Helcat

    This morning as I woke to a general sense of anxiety for no apparent reason, the usual thoughts followed, wishing that I could end it as in die. To be candid I cannot remember a time when these thoughts of ending things have not been part of my life. So when I read you post I could relate to your question as I asked it myself this very morning.

    It seems to me these thoughts have been planted deep from a early age and the part of the self that keeps bringing them to the surface is doing so more out of habit that for a reason. I assume their is a part of that self that is addicted to them.

    My method of dealing with it has been to take a step back and observe the observer that is experiencing the anxiety from which the thoughts arise.  A practice of detachment to unblock the flow and move on from the thoughts. It sometimes works though this morning the frustration of noticing these thoughts arise yet again and not knowing why got in the way. Why can be a very unskillful word especially, as I’m beginning to suspect, this is no why, at least no one that is relevant to the present.

    Allan Watts said “If you want to outwit the devil, it is extremely important that you don’t give him advanced notice. Even if you only announce to yourself your intentions, the devil will know, because who do you think the devil is? You

    I think part of what Allan is referring to with that statement is the art of ‘doing by not doing’ That when you try not to have such thoughts as suicided ideation your pretty much going to have those thoughts.  And to that I have no answer as part of the problem is language itself… and the constant nattering of the inner narrator that can’t seem to help itself in describing every thought and feeling.

    Something I learned was the life is a cycle of birth, death, rebirth – the reality of every breath. Put another way Life eats Life, or Life requires the sacrifice of Life in the pursuit of Life and growth.  This is the reality of organic organisms and the subjective things as thoughts, feelings, desires, fears….. such things have their time to be born and to die so that we might learn and grow.

    Only the ego isn’t usually fully conscious of this reality and or does not trust it, that rebirth will follow. Such a ego consciousness does not like IT as it feels like death as a ending, so It resist this flow of life, which it can’t. This produces anxiety and the paradoxical desire of ending this cycle by suicide.  The ego self fear of “dying” creating the suicidal ideation, which surly is ironic.

    Anyway I took that to mean that when I experience thoughts of suicide its a sign pointing to the likelihood that I’m holding on to something that needs to die so that a something else might grow. I suspect thier are a few things I’m holding onto that is blocking flow.  Thus we work for that which no work is required as the flow is always flowing and the thought we are blocking it only a illusion. Holding on to something which time has come to ‘die‘, still ‘dies’, only the rebirth of what come next has changed.

    So this morning I woke up ‘on the wrong side of the bed’ but seeing your post didn’t feel so quite alone.  My name is Peter and I’m addicted to Suicidal Ideation…

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