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  • in reply to: Forgiving Myself – Please Help? #216185
    Peter
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    hi Rye

    In my opinion there is nothing more we can ask of others and ourselves is that when we learn better we do better.

    The reality of consciousness is that we become conscious in moments of tension – we donā€™t become conscious of cold until we experience the tension between the experience of cold and hot. Meaning we tend to learn things the hard way.

    I know today there is a tendency to judge people base on a single moment, even if that moment happened years ago when we did not know what we know now. But we are more then a single experience, we are more then the sum of our parts. That you could learn and correct your behavior, and your concern with becoming that person again says great deal about you. That to is a part of the whole

    Forgiveness is a concept that it more often then not misunderstood, let alone self forgiveness. Its important to remember that forgiveness does not remove responsibility or accountability. Ā A part of forgiveness is making amends when required and this may or may not evolve those that you harmed.Ā  Having made the commitment to learn from your past and do better counts. Self forgiveness also involves amends to the self. Just as your experience likely opened you to compassion towards others you need to have compassion for yourself.

    I donā€™t know anyone who doesnā€™t have a memory that fills them with shame when something triggers it. Its not a great feeling yet it keeps us aware and asking the question of who we are and wish to be and if we are living up to those values.

    in reply to: question on buddists #216181
    Peter
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    Was this your first interactions with you neighbors?

    The response your received from the ā€œBuddhist nunsā€ did not on the surface conform to Buddhist practice or values as I understand them… But Buddhist are human, and as most humans donā€™t always live up to their values.

    Your post reminds me of the stories you hear of someone yelling a someone for not paying attention only to learn that that person just lost their father. We don’t usually know everything that may be influencing a encounter, we like to think we know, but we don’t.

    Is it possible you caught your neighbor at a bad time?

    The rule of charity states that if there are more then one way of interpreting an interaction and you canā€™t or donā€™t want to investigate the intention then chose the most compassionate interpretation.Ā  The next step would be to ask your neighbor about the encounter or wish them well and look elsewhere for help.

     

    in reply to: New found life after ego death #216143
    Peter
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    Hi Christy

    I donā€™t think I would have been strong enough to experience the type of ego death you had.

    My journey tends to be through books and I misunderstood the process and instead of healthy detachment ended up in indifference and depression. Itā€™s a subtle difference learning how to fully enter life experience without attaching oneā€™s sense of identity as being the experience.

    Today I would say that for me its not so much an ego death but about establishing a relationship with the ego. Noticing when an attachment of the ego to an experience is taking me for a ride.

    in reply to: New found life after ego death #216029
    Peter
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    Assuming this thread is open dialog

    I found my reaction to this statement personally interesting:Ā ā€œDeath is the permanent ending of somethingā€

    I do and donā€™t tend to view death in this way. I mean with regards to personal consciousness maybe but organically no.Ā  Objectively Death is a transition, not a permanent end, just an end of one state into another. Atoms and molecules breaking down and reforming, never resting, always in motion, even when our motion stops, or our awareness of our motion stops. And symbolically the word death is always associated with transition, an end but also a beginning.

    Not sure where Iā€™m going with that, just though it was interesting… Perhaps my feeling that when we let the ego die its more of a transformation? Perhaps that is a permanent ending…yet is it not true that a part of what dies always feeds what come next

    in reply to: Midlife Crisis #215705
    Peter
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    Generally speaking in the first half of life our task towards individuation is ā€œdoingā€ ie school, carrier, establish familyā€¦. While the second half the task changes to ā€œbeingā€

    Or if we think in terms of Maslowā€™s Hierarchy of needs:Ā In the first half of life we focus on Physiological, Safety, Social, and Esteem needs and in the second half we look towards Self-actualization and Self-transcendence.

    The Midlife Crises occurs when we sense a conflict between our doing and being needs. If one is not conscious of this natural transition, anxiety may arise and you end up buy the red convertible thinking that the purchase of more things is the answer ā€“ itā€™s a midlife crisis when youā€™re not awake to the change in needs and or try to fix ā€œbeingā€ by more more ā€œdoingā€.Ā  If one approaches the transition accepting the anxiety its not long a crisis but a Midlife transition. (How we label things matters)

    I noticed from your lists of concerns that most are based on a concern about imagined future ā€“ essentially your feeling the pain to day for an imagined fear of the future.Ā  To move forward you may want to work on the list and identify any cognitive distortions and dissonanceā€™s. In this you well be able to identify the real issues behind your anxiety create a plan to deal with them.

    in reply to: New found life after ego death #215455
    Peter
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    What a interesting experience to have before “knowing” what it was all about and understandable terrifying. It reminds me of something Jung said about it taking a strong and healthy ego to allow it die. Its a interesting thought and I suppose that the week ego only pretends to die danger and instead attaches itself to the belief that all (including the I) is meaningless and empty void. Indifference vice non-attachment

    For myself I no longer link of the ego as poison or something that has to be overcome but as a useful go between the conscious and unconscious, a necessity of language that allows for contemplation and sharing of experience.Ā  Its very difficult to communicate with others or ourselves without using or thinking the word I even as we know ā€œI am not I” (I am) just as ā€œI am not my bodyā€ but I like having a bodyā€¦ its useful. But sometimes I forget šŸ™‚

    in reply to: New found life after ego death #215415
    Peter
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    Responding to the topic of ego death

    Coming to the realization that ā€œI am not my beliefsā€ does not necessary mean oneā€™s beliefs are void or that one is indifferent to them, only that one understands them for what they are and so not attached to them.Ā  This form of non-attachment creates space where one no longer experience anxiety when a ā€˜beliefā€™ is challenged, which they will be. By non-attachment one can confront the present moment experience that may contradict the belief without danger to ones ā€˜identityā€™ and doing so learn and grow.

    Associating and attaching one sense identity with oneā€™s beliefs often leads to depression and or fanaticism. For example, if I am my ego, I am my beliefs this ā€œIā€ is unlikely to be able to tolerate those beliefs being questioned as doing so puts in question my identity. This such a ā€œIā€ cannot allow and so ā€œIā€ will force everyone (and my self) to adhere to my beliefsā€¦ even if they no longer match my experiences. (I am divided and divided unhappy)

    Allowing the belief that ā€œI am my egoā€ to ā€œdieā€ (which is what the ego wants but also fears) one is better able to enter into the experience and ā€œbeā€ in the moment. (vice the past ā€“ future)

    in reply to: New found life after ego death #215269
    Peter
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    Every moment, infinity small, infinity large, every breath we take is a death and rebirth šŸ™‚Ā  every breath every moment a reincarnation.

    The ego has its role to play in consciousness and easy to mistake for the self and in charge.

    ā€œWhat had the experienceā€,Ā ā€œI had the experienceā€…Ā But the I does not exist – other then a construct of language, there is only the present experience.

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    in reply to: AAnxious Mind #215267
    Peter
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    Imagine someone walking towards you suddenly cross the road. Would you feel safer and thank them for their kindness?

    I was very shy and fearful growing up and latter in life was shocked to learn that many in the community I grew up in felt that shyness as conceit. The story they told themselves about me was that I must think I was to good for them. I thought I was being kind and considerate they thought I was stuck up. (Maybe I was, as shyness can be a judgment that we don’t trust others)

    You are making the mistake of thinking you can know what others are thinking and that others can know what you are thinking. (heck we barley know and understand our own thoughts and motivations)

    The anxiety we feel is of our own making and all of it based on illusion. If you want to reduce your anxiety let go of the excessive concern you have of what you imagine others think of you – which is really the excessive concern you have about your self.Ā  This concern isnā€™t about being nice and considerate of others its about you creating the illusion of safety for yourself. Which, based on the anxiety you feel youā€™re not experiencing anyway, its not working, let it go.

    in reply to: Critical mistake or good decision? #215237
    Peter
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    Your decision to downsize, in my opinion for what its worth, is a sound and good one.

    Happiness does not come from all the stuff we have. As you yourselves have discovered the ā€œdream homeā€ did not create the dream but a burden of anxiety.Ā  Thatā€™s the thing with stuff,Ā  more often then not, instead of enjoying it we live the fear of losing it.

    Iā€™m 55, sole bread winner, prone to depression, and getting tired ā€“ ready to re-tire. Ready or not the next sage of life is before us and the questions start to arise, what do we want it to look like? Do we continue to strive and pushā€¦ how much do we really need? What is truly important. Its understandable as we grasp and hold on to the illusions of the past, how things should be even suspecting that we donā€™t really want those things that we fall into depression.

    There is no reason for regret. Nothing stopping you from pursuing a new dream house, but you already know that you wont, its not what you or your family needs or wants. The dream ā€œhomeā€ your seeking in the second half of life isnā€™t about brick and mortar and stuff.

    ā€œThe feelings that hurt most, the emotions that sting most, are those that are absurd – The longing for impossible things, precisely because they are impossible; nostalgia for what never was; the desire for what could have been; regret over not being someone else; dissatisfaction with the worldā€™s existence. All these half-tones of the soulā€™s consciousness create in us a painful landscape, an eternal sunset of what we are.ā€ ā€• Fernando Pessoa

    in reply to: Anxiety and Fear #214101
    Peter
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    I recommend the book – The Wisdom of Insecurity by Alan Watts

    When we experience anxiety, we are almost always trying to fix, fixate, the present ā€“ in other words we want to stop life, stop change, stop flow and control it. We want security

    We want security but security is fixed and life is flow (life cannot be fixed) so the more security we desire the more insecure we become. The only way to over come insecurity is to embrace insecurity.

    ā€œTo put is still more plainly: the desire for security and the feeling of insecurity are the same thing. To hold your breath is to lose your breath. A society based on the quest for security is nothing but a breath-retention contest in which everyone is as taut as a drum and as purple as a beet.ā€ ā€• Alan W. Watts

    ā€œBut you cannot understand life and its mysteries as long as you try to grasp it. Indeed, you cannot grasp it, just as you cannot walk off with a river in a bucket. If you try to capture running water in a bucket, it is clear that you do not understand it and that you will always be disappointed, for in the bucket the water does not run. To ā€œhaveā€ running water you must let go of it and let it run.ā€ Ā ā€• Alan W. Watts

    in reply to: what is true love according to you? #213291
    Peter
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    There are many levels to our relationship to the word love. In your question you appear to be asking when is it we experience Love True ā€“ true as in an experience without doubt or need of measurement?

    I would have to disagree that the experience of understanding another so well that you see their problems as your own as being ā€˜true loveā€™ā€¦ though it might be an attribute of the experience. I donā€™t think it would not be enough by itself. The danger being that such an experience of loving another in that way might end in co-dependency or some such phycological quagmire.

    Rephrasing the question – when do you know you are loving someone truly and being loved truly?

    My best guess is that we experience being loved truly when we are truly seen, truly witnessed by another.

    I see you, (I am seen) all off you (all of me) as you are (as I am) the good the bad and ugly and accept all of it, all of you (all of me). Who you are matters, (who I am matters), what you do matters, (what I do matters) ā€¦ so I hold you accountable, (you must let me be accountable) ā€¦ for if I did not (if you do not) I do not see you, (you do not see me) and nothing you are, (nothing I am), could matter, have meaning or purposeā€¦ and that would not be love true.

    Iā€™ve always liked the following quote from Shall We Dance

    “We need a witness to our lives.Ā  There’s a billion people on the planet, what does any one life really mean? But in a marriage, (love true) you’re promising to care about everything.Ā  The good things, the bad things, the terrible things, the mundane things, all of it, all of the time, every day.Ā  You’re saying ‘Your life will not go unnoticed because I will notice it.Ā  Your life will not go un-witnessed because I will be your witness’.” ā€“ I love you true

    in reply to: struggling to keep going #212921
    Peter
    Participant

    A word that appears often in your story is Shame.Ā Shame is a complex emotion. Sometimes the shame we feel is deserved, for example we deliberately hurt someone, and the shame we feels informs us that amends may be called for, however most of the shame we feel and that drives usĀ  and keeps us stuck is not deserved. We have done nothing wrong, are nothing wrong…

    Undeserved shame is shame we feel for being who we are, as we are (who others told us we are)…. we judge and measure ourselves unnecessarily unacceptable… We tend to suck at measuring our experiences, judging them and then worse labeling our sense of self based on those measurements.

    ā€œOne of the plainest truths about both towns and individuals is that they usually don’t turn into what we tell them to be, but what they are told they are.ā€Ā Ā ā€•Ā Fredrik Backman, Beartown

    You may find Lewis B Smedes book ‘Shame and Grace: Healing the Shame We Don’t Deserve‘ helpful

    “If you persistently feel you don’t measure up, you are feeling shameā€”that vague, undefined heaviness that presses on our spirit, dampens our gratitude for the goodness of life, and diminishes our joy. The good news is that shame can be healed.”

     

    in reply to: Happiness is your birthright #210205
    Peter
    Participant

    Some questions for you

    Can happiness exist without the possibility of sadness? (Enter the problem of opposites, duality and consciousness.)

    What role does the ego, sense of self, play in becoming consciousness and the awakening to experience?

    What is unconditional Love? How are the attributes of accountability, responsibility, discipline, purpose, meaning related to the experience of being Loved and Loving ā€“ Unconditionally?

    If the condition of being unconditional a condition of unconditional Love, is it still Love?

    What is Love?

    If Life is Love, and the reality of Life is that Life eats Life,ā€¦ are pain, sacrifice and death are also attribues of Love?

    in reply to: Intense rage #209781
    Peter
    Participant

    By sitting with the feelingsĀ  so that you learn how to respond them them vice react.

    20 Things to Do When Youā€™re Feeling Angry with Someone

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