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PeterParticipantHi Anita,
I don’t see our exchange as a monologue at all. I share these thoughts as springboards, hoping they offer a bit of ‘atmosphere’ for others to find their own stories.So please don’t worry about being ‘too dense’ or making it ‘more about you.’ In fact, that is exactly why were here. We’ve both walked paths where an external compass, for me, religious literalism; for you, perhaps a different internalized map, tried to override our true internal one. When you share how these topics resonate with your own life, it’s not taking away from my post; it’s actually the highest compliment.
I value your unique way of viewing things and your reflections are a welcome part of the rhythm. My only request is that it stays true to you. Use these threads in whatever way helps your own process of reclaiming your story. Even if that means pushing back and disagreeing.
PeterParticipantAs I’ve explored this topic I find my self continually surprised of how the literalism we internalize as children can eventually feel like a cage. As I discussed with Roberta to find a way out, I’ve found I often have to look toward other wisdom traditions, not to abandon my home, but to find the tools to renovate it. Here is a less biblical example warning of a hardened heart…
I’ve been reflecting on a verse from the Tao Te Ching:
The Way bears one. The one bears two. The two bear three. The three bear the ten thousand things. The ten thousand things carry the yin on their shoulders and hold in their arms the yang, whose interplay of energy makes harmony.
People despise orphans, widowers, outcasts. Yet that’s what kings and rulers call themselves. Whatever you lose, you’ve won. Whatever you win, you’ve lost. What others teach, I say too: violence and aggression destroy themselves. My teaching rests on thatLao Tzu suggests that we often become caught in the dualisms of winning and losing, subject and object. Again and again, experience seems to split itself into opposites. Yet this cosmology gestures toward something prior to this division, something like the “Law of Three,” where a third presence opens a space for a choiceless choice. It is the moment that is neither inhale, exhale nor holding, a weightless pause where the creative spark arises.
From there, something subtle happens. The spark does not remain formless. Language gathers around it, as moisture gathers in the air. At first, it is light, like vapor, invisible and unbound. Then, almost imperceptibly, it condenses. A thought takes shape, an image forms, and the first raindrop appears. This is natural, even necessary: the formless becoming form, the unseen becoming speakable. Like rain, it nourishes, it connects, it allows life to take root.
But the process does not always stop at rain.
Under certain conditions, when the atmosphere grows turbulent, when currents clash and intensify, the raindrop is carried upward again. It passes through layers of freezing air, and each pass adds another shell. What began as a simple condensation becomes a hailstone: solid, dense, and weighty.
So too with our thoughts. A simple insight, once named, can be lifted back into the churn of reaction, defensiveness, and repetition, until it hardens into a fixed position. This is the “hardened heart” from the old stories, not a divine punishment, but a psychological process where a living truth becomes an icy weapon. What began as a living spark becomes something we grasp, defend, and eventually throw.
In this metaphor, the “One” is the open atmosphere, pure, unformed potential. The “Two” is the condensation, the inevitable forming of a drop. But the hailstone is a distortion: it is form that has been cycled through resistance until it forgets its origin in lightness. By the time we hold a rigid stance, we are no longer holding rain, but ice.
Today, I want to practice what the older Christian traditions called Perichoresis, the “divine dance.” This wasn’t a dry doctrine but a description of mutual indwelling and dynamic movement. It echoes Lao Tzu’s harmony: the One becoming Two, and the Two finding their rhythm in the Three.
Through this lens, the tensions in my own life begin to soften. My active drive to achieve and my passive need to rest are no longer adversaries; they are movements within a larger rhythm. The “third force” is not something added, but something noticed, the breath itself, the living space between.
I saw this briefly this morning in a difficult conversation. There was the impulse to defend, to solidify into a position. There was also the impulse to withdraw. But for a moment, there was a gap. In that space, nothing had yet hardened. It was a moment where I did not have to become the hailstone; I could remain as the atmosphere.
Violence, I see now, is a forgetting of this movement. It is what happens when we try to give permanence to what was never meant to be fixed, so begets and destroys it self. But the Tao suggests a reversal: what is yielded is not lost. By releasing the weight of needing to be “right,” we return to the dance.
The world often operates as if only hailstones are real, solid positions and force meeting force. But beneath the noise, the quieter process continues: the forming and dissolving, the rising and falling.
So today, I will look for that movement in small things. I will notice the instant before the drop hardens. I will allow the spark to remain light a little longer. In that openness, there is finally room to breathe.
PeterParticipantHi Roberta,
I love that you brought up the word ‘fear.’ It’s such a perfect example of how the ‘childhood’ version of a story can feel restrictive or even contradictory.Interestingly, that word ‘fear’ in the original context of the tradition isn’t really about being afraid of a cosmic bully. It’s closer to the sense of awe or reverence, the way you might feel a ‘fearful’ wonder standing at the edge of a vast canyon or watching a massive storm. It’s about being overwhelmed by the scale of life, not being scared of a blow. But try to explain that to a 5-year-old…
I also appreciate Buddhist philosophy and language, yet I am reminded of T.S. Eliot’s idea: ‘And the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started, and know the place for the first time.’
To do that, I needed the language of Buddhism and other wisdom traditions just to breathe and get away from those literal, childhood interpretations. But as Jung suggested, we can’t simply trade our Western minds (inherited language) for Eastern ones; eventually, we have to ‘dance with the one that brought us.’ His suggestion matching my experience as I was constantly, often sub-consciously, translating new “language” into the old.
For me, exploring other philosophies wasn’t about leaving home forever; it was about gaining the perspective to return and see my ‘inherited language’ anew. It allowed me to heal those internalized concepts, like the hardening of Pharaoh’s heart, and see them through a mature lens rather than the mind of a child. Sometimes you have to go a long way away to finally understand the ground you’re standing on.
PeterParticipantI also wanted to share a bit more about my original intent for this topic. As a child, being told the story of Exodus, I was deeply confronted by those words: ‘And God hardened Pharaoh’s heart.’ Hearing that, and then hearing how Pharaoh and Egypt were punished as a result… while simultaneously being told that such a God was ‘Love’ was jarring.
I internalized the idea that ‘Love’ was simply synonymous with obedience and following the rules, a sentiment I think you can relate to. It creates a rigid inner world and a major cognitive dissonance that you are also told to ignore. Eventually, the inevitable happens: you discover that following the rules doesn’t always stop painful experiences or lead to the experience of feeling loved… and here is the really sad part: the young child assumes they are the problem.
I might argue that every child, through whatever cultural or path they walk, eventually hits that wall where the Map (the rules, the words, the expectations) fails to describe the Territory (the raw, painful, and beautiful experience of being alive). When the adults and the “Law” insist the Map is perfect, the child has no choice but to conclude that their own internal compass is broken.
By framing such a experience as archetypal, I’ve been suggesting that the “Exodus” is actually the journey of un-learning that childhood conclusion. The 40 years in the wilderness is the time it takes for that “I am the problem” identity to finally starve to death, so that the person can finally enter the “Promise” as a dancer rather than a servant. A movement from “I must be right” to be loved… to “I am here.” and am Love.
PeterParticipantHi Anita,
I’m so glad you’re engaging with the story this way. I add the disclaimer of “dream analysis” in the earlier posts because I don’t want to impose my own associations on anyone else, it’s more about finding what resonates in the “atmosphere” of the narrative.You touched on something that confused my younger self too: the shift from Pharaoh hardening his own heart and the movement with the text saying, “And God hardened Pharaoh’s heart.” It feels similar to your observation about Moses being “punished” for his frustration. From a human perspective, it seems incredibly unfair… poor Moses and Pharoah!
But in “dream analysis,” we look at these figures as parts of a single psyche. In that light, Moses’ inability to enter the Promised Land isn’t a punishment, but an inevitability.
It’s like those myths where the hero is warned not to look back. What brought the psyche this far, the “Law,” the structure, the forceful leadership, simply cannot accompany it into the next stage. There is a leap, a weightless space between the old way of being and the new. The work of planting the seeds is done. (imagine digging up the seeds every few seconds in order to see where their at, preventing its becoming…. Then blaming the sun for not doing its part…)
For me, Moses represents the “mediator” or the “instruction” a choice to engage with the Wisdom traditions. But the Promised Land requires presence and participation. The “old self” that fought Pharaoh in Egypt eventually reaches its limit. To enter the “Promise,” we have to drop what has become “form” of our past identities, even the heroic ones, and step into the dance with nothing in our hands… the formless.
As my dance instructor taught, there comes a point when, to truly Dance, we must forget what we learned… A difference between dancing to win competitions and DANCING from the heart. We thank dance instructor, Moses for the guidance, make what we learn ours and trust vice believe… That old question of mine – what if we lived what we say we believe??? Would we stop believing and live???
So I feel its less about being “good enough” to get in, and more about being “light enough” to cross…
When the formless hardens into form, we forget, and we try to “work” our way through life, rather than “releasing” our way through. As long as we hold on to our inner ‘Moses’ perhaps out of a sense of ego justice we shell not pass… But I do not feel bad for Moses, I notice in the story Moses seems content as he stands on the mountaintop and bless the “people” who will enter the “promise land”.
PeterParticipantHi Anita,
You asked “I still need to work on that” — on being me or on being silly? I often wonder if they are one and the same. 😊One of the blessings of age and the discovery of the contemplative heart is the ability to appreciate the gifts of others and the unique ways they express themselves. Your compassion, your silliness, and even your anxiousness are all part of your gift. If I don’t always know how to respond to such openness, it likely has much to do with my own Calvinist upbringing, a tradition that often prefers the “sober” over the “spontaneous.” – another old inherited story and language that has shaped me, more then I have shaped it.
You mentioned that the “wilderness” for you is that moment of anxiety after being silly, wondering if you’ve been received or rejected. That is a powerful image.
In the Exodus story, the 40 years in the wilderness were a time of shedding. The people, representing our own inner attributes, spontaneity, creativity, fears, and hopes, were often so terrified of the “in-between” that they begged to return to the certainty of slavery. Slavery was hard, but it was known. The wilderness is weightless and uncertain.
I think the reason that generation never entered the Promised Land is a metaphor for the ego: the version of us that lived in “Egypt” (the old habits and defenses) cannot survive in the “Promise.” The wilderness is where that old self falls away so that something new can be born. It’s a place of rest AND creative tension.
It’s perfectly okay to be in that “in-between” space. I appreciate you sharing what crosses your mind, it keeps the conversation in that rhythmic movement we’ve been talking about.
PeterParticipantThat’s kind of you to say Anita and I think its great that you can express yourself as you do. I would hope you never again feel embarrassed for being you. I still need to work on that.
Tinny Buddha has proven a safe space to explore my thoughts and release them into the wild. I don’t think I could posted Exodus posts in many places without it being viewed as a challenge to Orthodoxy…
Today I’ve been pondering Tao Te Ching 42 – which I thought fits the thread
The Way bears one.
The one bears two.
The two bear three.
The three bear the ten thousand things.The ten thousand things carry the yin
on their shoulders and hold their arms the yang,
whose interplay of energy make harmony.People despise orphans, widowers, outcasts.
Yet that’s what kings and rulers call themselves.
Whatever you lose, you’ve won. Whatever you win, you’ve lost.What others teach, I say too: violence and aggression destroy themselves.
My teaching rests on that.
PeterParticipantWe often think of stories as things we read, but sometimes, a story begins to read us… As children, we naturally inhabit the world of myth and narrative. We don’t ask if a story is “objective” or “fact”; we simply feel its weight in our bones. For many of us, the story of Exodus was our first map of power, suffering, and liberation. But as we move into the second half of life, we may find that these old stories start “haunting” us again, not as religious doctrines or historical accounts, but as mirrors of our own inner landscape.
In the following exploration, I am setting aside traditional theology. I am not looking at Exodus as a statement of “belief,” but rather as a dream of the psyche.
I should offer a disclaimer: like all dream analysis, the associations belong primarily to the dreamer. This is my way of taking back a story that was given to me as a child, move by move, and seeing it fresh. If we treat the characters and objects of this story as parts of our own internal world, what do they reveal? What part of us is the “Pharaoh” that refuses to move? What part is the “Israel” crying out for freedom?
This is an attempt to see the story as a process of transformation, a move from the “stone” of ego-control to the “fluidity” of a life lived in the rhythm of grace.
**Exodus as a Dream of the Psyche**
If Exodus is a dream, then “Egypt” is not “out there.” It is a psychic location, a state of consciousness. “Egypt” is the place where order is imposed from above, where productivity is extracted, where identity is defined by function. It is the realm of ego control, survival logic, and fear-based stability. In Jungian terms, it resembles the dominant attitude of the conscious mind: efficient, hierarchical, defensive, and deeply invested in maintaining control.
Pharaoh, then, is not merely a ruler but a principle within the psyche. It is that part which believes stability comes from domination, safety from control, worth from usefulness, that order must be protected at all costs. This is not an evil impulse. It is protective, hardened by repetition. The slavery of “Israel” is not enforced by brute force alone; it is the psychodynamic consequence of living too long under a single ruling principle. When one mode of consciousness becomes absolute, all other aspects of the psyche are reduced to labor.
To leave “Egypt“, therefore, is not to reject structure, discipline, or intelligence. It is to loosen their tyranny. “Egypt” is the place where everything must justify itself: feelings must be useful, compassion must be strategic, rest must be earned, and mystery must be controlled. Leaving “Egypt” is the frightening moment when the psyche dares to believe that not everything that matters can be measured. It is the shift from control to trust, from extraction to participation, from certainty to responsiveness, from stone to flesh. And this is precisely why “Pharaoh” (self) panics. A psyche organized around productivity cannot tolerate gratuitous freedom.
In this dream, “Israel” represents the exiled parts of the psyche… emotion, imagination, vulnerability, longing, grief, memory. These are not weak elements; they are disruptive to rigid systems because they refuse reduction. To leave “Egypt” is to allow these parts to move again. Speech returns. Memory awakens. Desire surfaces. The heart begins to beat to a different rhythm. It does not feel orderly. It feels destabilizing—exactly why the old regime experiences it as a threat.
The crossing of the sea then marks a deeper threshold. It is not triumph but terror. The sea represents the unconscious, and to cross it is to allow the ego to be overwhelmed by forces it cannot command. The waters do not part in advance; they open only in response to movement. There is no proof beforehand. Meanwhile, Pharaoh’s army, old habits, reflexes, and defenses, pursues the psyche into the passage. Even in transformation, the past follows closely behind. What perishes in the sea is not reason or order, but the belief that control is identical with life.
Between “Egypt” and “Promise land” lies the wilderness. Psychologically, it is the liminal space between identities, where old structures no longer function and new ones have not yet formed. There are no monuments here, no economy of productivity, only daily bread, trust and presence. To enter the wilderness is to accept the loss of control, the withdrawal of certainty, and the necessity of dependence. It is no surprise that many, in such a state, long to return to “Egypt“. Slavery with clarity often feels safer than freedom with uncertainty.
Seen this way, the hardening of Pharaoh’s heart is not punishment but process. It is what occurs when a psychic structure refuses to evolve when, confronted with change, it doubles down on its own rigidity until it becomes brittle. Pharaoh is ego inflated, cut off from the deeper Self, mistaking dominance for wholeness. Leaving “Egypt” is not victory over an enemy; it is grief for a mode of being that once ensured survival but can no longer sustain life. And perhaps this is why the story repeats personally, culturally, spiritually because no one leaves “Egypt” only once.
Within this movement, Moses emerges as a crucial figure: not consciousness itself, but the mediator of structure. He is law-giver, translator, one who shapes the formless into something livable and shared. He brings pattern down the mountain, commandments, boundaries, rituals, distinctions. This makes him indispensable. Yet it also defines his limits. “Moses” belongs to the realm of form. He can lead the psyche out of Egypt, but he cannot fully inhabit what lies beyond structure.
The Promised Land, psychologically, is not a better Egypt. It is a different mode of being altogether, one that cannot be governed by the same tools that enabled escape. “Moses” inability to enter is not punishment but inevitability. What brought the psyche this far cannot accompany it further. When he strikes the rock instead of speaking to it, we glimpse the reflex of force and certainty, methods that once worked but no longer belong. Moses must remain at the threshold: seeing, blessing, releasing.
At this edge comes a final, subtle warning: not to look back. In mythic language, this is not a moral command but a psychological truth. To look back is to attempt to reclaim control, to fix transformation into certainty, to possess what must remain alive. At the threshold, attention itself can collapse the liminal. Certainty hardens what needs to stay fluid. Grasping freezes what must continue to move. The past, if re-grasped, reclaims its authority.
In this light, “Moses” is completed leadership. Every psyche requires such a figure to name what matters, to break the spell of captivity, to orient the journey. But Moses cannot become Joshua. The next movement requires participation rather than mediation, presence rather than instruction. The Promised Land must be lived, not explained.
The deeper truth, perhaps, is this: the journey does not end with leaving “Egypt“. One must also let go of the guide who made that departure possible. Form must yield to life. Structure must soften into relationship. And the land ahead can only be entered by those who no longer need to define it, only to dwell within it.
PeterParticipantHi Anita
In noticing that habit of judgment and making the conscious shift toward grace, you are refusing to let the “Pharaoh” of your past, that survival-driven rigidity—dictate your future. I am reminded of a beautiful, ancient idea of the “Wounded Healer” the person whose authority to help others comes not from being perfect, but from having walked through the fire of their own brokenness. By staying strong enough to feel the old pain while choosing the “middle way,” you aren’t just healing yourself; you’re creating a space for others who are still lost between those two painful camps. It’s a quiet, powerful kind of strength that doesn’t need to hardened.
PeterParticipantHi Anita. Thanks for such a raw and honest exploration of the topic. I think you were correct in noticing a political nuance; the ‘hardened heart’ seems very present in many of today’s leaders. Wisely, though, you have seen past that to the psychological shadow that perhaps lies within all of us.
You’ve touched on something important: that for a child in pain, hardening isn’t a “mistake,” it’s a survival strategy. When the world is divided into the rejected and the rejecting, the heart turns into a shield just to endure. To a child, such “either/or” experiences are very real, so I appreciate your thoughts on a third, middle way. I very much relate to that experience and wonder if this is the ‘birth of the shadow’ that eventually transforms into a “Pharaoh” that will not or at some point cannot ‘let go’.
I think you nailed it by noticing that “empathy without discernment” is the real trap. The solution, not a label of ‘sin’ but the middle way as a journey for all of us to remember the rhythm that was perhaps taken away from us long ago.
Perhaps that is why the story of Exodus has “haunted” me and felt in need of reclaiming… to that end I plan to further explore the story as if it were a dream to see what else might be revealed.
PeterParticipantHi Alessa, you point directly to the heart of the matter: “look toward the light, be kind, and help where you can.”… and I might leave it their, if I haven’t been noticing how difficult that sometimes is.
I really appreciated your perspective. As a young mother, you’re navigating the objective world in such a vital way, while I’m at a stage where I tend to look at things through the symbols they leave behind, or may be living us… my attempt at shining a light…
I wrote that post because I’d notice a bit of a struggle in my own heart, questioning my own kindness. That feeling pulled up an old memory of the Exodus story. As I sat with it, I realized how much that story had “lived” my younger self; exploring it was my way of taking ownership of what was mine. I also felt it was a good example of how a story can ‘live’ us unconsciously, individually and nationally.
I have learned to view Pharaoh a little differently, though. As a symbol I don’t feel his heart was ever broken ‘open’; Instead, I think he represents that rigid part of ourselves that hardens to a point it simply cannot give in. In my view, such an inner “Pharaoh” can’t change until it is overwhelmed by life it self… I’d like to avoid that.
I hear you on why “Golden Age” feels like the wrong term in today’s, often ugly, divisions. In my head, I was looking at it through a long historical lens, thinking about how we have so much more, compared to any time in the past. Where so many get to indulge in our wants above and beyond or needs. Instead, in what should be a Golden age, we seem to be retreating into those old, rigid ways, spending more on missiles than on the people who need help. I suspect history, and our children children may not be very kind to us for that.
I try to stay fluid, moving and responding, rather than letting the weight of the world turn my heart into a stone that refuses to move. But it’s not easy and perhaps why noticing any harding is important work. Individually, nationally and globally.
April 10, 2026 at 9:17 am in reply to: On Purpise and Shame- what is my purpose? What is yours? #456805
PeterParticipantI was partially disturbed by a new Christin Nationalist theology emerging and catching on that claims that ’empathy as a sin’
April 10, 2026 at 8:38 am in reply to: On Purpise and Shame- what is my purpose? What is yours? #456803
PeterParticipantThanks, Anita. It has been a hard week. I’ve been reminded again about how easily we let national narratives consume us, and the reckless way leadership handles language.
I’m working on a piece about the temptation to ‘harden one’s heart’ as a means of escape, a re-examination of the Exodus story as a warning for today, as well as a attempt to heal a old story my youngers self struggled with. It feels a bit heavy for a thread on Purpose, so I’ll likely post it as a new topic titled ‘The Hardening Heart: Why We Must Be Wary.’
April 5, 2026 at 9:33 am in reply to: On Purpise and Shame- what is my purpose? What is yours? #456642
PeterParticipantAnita, I want to share a few thoughts on this ‘reward and punishment’ cycle. warning: I find myself using a language I’ve inherited, theological words like grace, Sabbath, or mystery, not as rigid definitions, but as pointers I’m trying to reclaim. I hope they can be held lightly as a different way of viewing a painting.
Your memory of that ‘interrupted exhale’ perfectly illustrates why the theology of reward and punishment so often misses the mark. It creates a ‘hungry system’ where love is treated as a wage to be earned rather than a gift to be received. When we are punished for our most authentic movements, like a five-year-old running with unhindered joy, we learn to believe that our ’emotional presence’ is a liability.
We are taught that Life is a harsh master who harvests where he did not plant. But I wonder if we can reframe that.
In the story I’m trying to inhabit, the ‘punishment’, the rejection and the silence, is never the final word. And the ‘reward’ isn’t a prize for good behavior; it is the sheer, unmerited grace of a life that simply refuses to stay buried.
What you call ‘holding your breath’ or ‘going invisible,’ I see as a holy hiding. You weren’t failing to grow; you were protecting a seed of ’emotional presence’ that was too tender for the world you were in. A seed too precious to be crushed by someone who couldn’t recognize its value.
I don’t feel reclaiming that exhale is about finally being ‘good enough’ to earn a reward. But a realization that the old ‘system’ of measurement, those scales of merit and debt, has been broken open.
The seed you hid becomes, not a ‘talent’ to be traded, but your very life. And now, in this season of your own ‘waiting to exhale,’ that presence is coming to light. It transcends the old economy of punishment. It doesn’t need to perform anymore. It just needs to breathe.
April 5, 2026 at 9:12 am in reply to: On Purpise and Shame- what is my purpose? What is yours? #456641
PeterParticipantHi Anita, thank you for the dialogue with Jung and friends; it gave me much to ponder. I feel like we are both working to reclaim the dignity of the third servant… or perhaps the inner child. Whether we call the Divine ‘God,’ ‘Life,’ or even the internalized voices of mother and father, when the ‘story’ we are told doesn’t match our lived experience, I’ve begun to wonder if burying a talent isn’t an act of fear, but a holy act of planting.
Perhaps the child isn’t failing to ‘invest’ their life, but is instead protecting a truth that the current system would only weaponize or crush. If the burial is a Sabbath – a holy refusal to perform – then what is in the ground isn’t lost. It is a seed waiting for a world that is finally ready to let it rise…
This Easter morning was quiet, the kind of quiet that doesn’t ask to be filled.
I stood a long while before the stillness until it became a mirror:
An old man seeing the face of a young boy.
A face excited, holding words he couldn’t yet read,
trusting that one day they would open.
Innocence looks like hope then.I watch as the eyes tighten into a worry:
a suspicion that love feels heavier then it should,
why it seems to demand so much…
a face still too young to read that far into the story.It is not a decision yet. Just a tightening.
A small inward turn, barely noticed.
The sense that something should be held back,
kept safe, kept quiet.
This is how the hiding begins.Something in him withdraws, burying what sees too clearly,
learning how to play a part, convincing even himself.A tear slips past my guard for how carefully that younger self carried his unease.
The face is old again now, as it is, settled in the morning’s emptiness.
Until it, too, begins to fade. The mirror holds only space.Some things are hidden not from fear, but from a inner knowing care.
Some truths need darkness before they can rise.
What is buried is not gone. It is only waiting. -
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