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Peter
ParticipantHi Jennifer,
Its important to understand that the Law of attraction (really a combination of all 7 Hermetic Principles i.e. Law of Vibration, Correspondence, Rhythm, Cause and EffectâŚ. or in Jungian terms perhaps synchronicity)⌠ isnât a matter of positive thinking or act of will. Its more of a doing by not doing, a allowing, an engagement with life that is fluid and agile, intentional yet not forced.
The issue I have with how the Law of attraction, âthe secretâ, is presented is that it comes off as something you should just be able to do, which is kind of true but only after you do the work. We work for that which no work is required.
For example, some people unconsciously donât believe the deserve love. These people will tend to attract relationship in which they will constantly test this unconscious belief. Subconsciously they will be looking to prove that they donât deserve love, attracting partners that will treat them badly, while hoping that just maybe they do, perhaps attracting partners that will do the work. You can imagine that such a relationship will be difficult and if the partners are not up to the challenge of working together to healing the past (belief that one is unlovable usually rooted in the past) it will most likely end reinforcing the belief. Repeat. Â (Often the pain of the ending of a relationship will push a person into doing the work â turn inwards vice outwards for healing)
The Law of attraction requires one to be authentic which requires becoming conscious of ones fears and dealing with them in healthy ways. Primary IMO, by taking responsibility and creating healthy boundaries. Healthy boundaries will attract others with healthy boundaries.
One works to trust Life âas it isâ so we can engage with life âas it isâ, intentional without force, calm intention, and doors will open. You may attract wealth which could be money or perhaps better yet enoughness. The wealth of being authentically content with ones Self.
June 10, 2019 at 2:26 pm in reply to: Coming out of depression to find myself hopelessly behind #298343Peter
ParticipantHi Liz
I am overwhelmed by how much catching up I have ahead of me, and I feel so much regret for the wasted years spent avoiding life and isolating myself.
When it come to careers (life in general). I am a firm believer that nothing we learn is ever wasted. Your experience with depression gives you invaluable perspective especially in a medical field.
I have met so many people that have gone to school of X only to end up with a career in Y. Iâve heard some say they wasted time X.  Yet latter in hindsight the realization that it took going through X to get to Y. Its bitter sweet. In the game of life sure it might seem better to know with certainty exactly what must be done and where we want what we do will lead us. However, if were honest we donât really want that. Beauty lies in the curves not the straight line, which does not exist in nature
If you ever take up ballroom dancing, when you first start you will find yourself always trying to catch up. Miss a step, miss a beat your impulse will be to move faster and catch up. Only it never works because that moment has passed. You canât step in the same river twice. All that happens is that you stumble and lose connection with your partner.
Something magical happens when you let that go. Instead of trying to catch up you change perspective and realize that what every beat your on, what ever foot your on is the right beat and the right foot to get to the next beat and the next step. You move from trying to perform a dance pattern to dancing. Every âmistakeâ leads to creative movement, perhaps a pause, a stretch, or a fall that recovered becomes then new move never seen before. (Most dance moves originate from âmistakesâ.)
There is no time travel so the reality is that you can only move from the place youâre in – so the place you are in is the exact right place to move from. Accept that, embrace that, and the world opens its doors to you. Instead of working your way through lifeâŚ. You get to Dance your way. Takes what shows up and dance. I have a feeling it will be amazing
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Participant I want to get to a place where I feel peace and joy in my experience without needing some sort of institutional validation.
I think that what hurt the most. As you continue to grow it sometime means losing community and we all want to be seen.
Peter
ParticipantHi Zack
I have also had similar experiences with regards to Christianity and Faith. For me it was important to make a distinction between the religious organization, community, religion, theology and the practice. Â What I mean is that when we talk about God, religion, community, theology, belief, faith we tend to mix them all up and can get lost in the âpolitics of beliefâ = guilt and fear.
In âawakeningâ the ego has two roles. The ego serves as a challenge that needs to be overcome and the medium through which that overcoming is experienced. It takes a healthy ego to detach it self from the experience of SELF. What is âyouâ is not the ego⌠yet how you experience that realization is via the medium of ego. The ego the medium between the objective and subjective, between consciousness and unconsciousness.
Religion is similar. Religion acts as both the medium and the challenge. You may have heard the expression that you must lose God to find God. Religion purpose is to guide, yet at the same time, perhaps because religion is also an organization tied to the experience of community, constrains. Pushes you forward while holding you back = pain.
We desire community, to belong. Much of the guilt we feel as we grow comes from the fear of loss of community. I suspect you may have had the experience of some people responding to your weight loss that left you âfeelingâ guilty. Witnessing you change causing others to experience anxiety and guilt which because they donât want to make such a change project it back onto you.
Its important to understand if the Spiritual guilt and fear you experience belongs to you or is originating from others.
There is a Zen koan “If you meet the Buddha, kill him”. The Buddha encouraged his followers to find their own way yet having followers created community = conflict. You can imagine the response of a community to âkillingâ the very thing being sought. You can imagine the quilt one might feel if one think they are objectively âkillingâ the Buddha⌠killing Christ⌠yet it is the death of Jesus that reveals Christ.
âThe Tao that can be told is not the eternal Taoâ (A map is not the territory) Every wisdom tradition including Christianity reference back to this truth, yet in practice tends to forget.
Peter
ParticipantHi Nevertheless
however everyone in my life makes me feel guilty and like Iâm a terrible parent for this.
Guilt – culpable of or responsible for a specified wrongdoing. justly chargeable with a particular fault or error.
From that definition I would argue that quilt isnât applicable. From your post your daughter is safe and well adjusted and as a parent thatâs is what is required of you.
The expectations of others on what they think you should do and be is their problem and frankly sexist. We all want people to accept us and approve of the things we do and its important to be open to such conversations however we canât let it define us.
The judgment of guilt isnât appropriate here and if otherâs actions and words are leaving you feeling that way the issue isnât about your co-parenting plan, its about something else. An honest conversation ought to solve the problem however most people arenât skilled at such conversations especially when family is concerned.
Quite frankly you ought to be able to tell those that you are feeling judgment from to stop, and that should be the end of it.
Peter
ParticipantThe first noble truth â We Suffer – Life is the sacrifice of life and when we deny that reality, fight that reality and or try to fix it we suffer. Â Most of the suffering we experience we create based on our thoughts about that reality and unwillingness to engage with life as it is. When we say Yes to that reality, we still suffer only we are less likely to attach our sense of self to that suffering. Â The suffering flows through us vice getting bottled up and clung to.
We work for that which no work is required.
You hinted at a realisation that you need to develop a health self esteem. I agree as It takes a healthy sense of self (ego) to let go of the ego and the suffering that arises when we attach our sense of âIâ as being the ego. (The ego remains the medium through which you experience life, we do not negate the ego as if it was âbadâ and had to be killed off which is the cause of much suffering. Instead we learn to detach our sense of âIâ as being the ego. You, (the Self), are not your ego, you are not your thoughts, you are not your mind, your body⌠you are not your experiences⌠The ego is both the challenge to be overcome and the medium through which we awaken⌠)
The work requires taking responsibility for our ability to nurturer ourselves as well as protecting ourselves by having healthy boundaries. Confronting our shadow by getting honest about our best and worst aspects… And then the most difficult coming to terms with duality â the problem of oppositesâŚ
There are many forms of meditation â which is it you practice? The purpose of practice is so that when we get up to play the game the skills we have are in our muscle memory. We act, we play, we are, without having to think about them. Â Its odd how it never occurs to people that have a meditation practice allow it when Life is engaging them. Â Stilling still and calm by a peaceful river for 30 min is all well and good but the practice shows itself when we find ourselves cought in the current of that river.
Peter
Participant âwe should live the life we came here to liveâ, which article was claiming we should live the life that God/Universe has planned for us, as thatâs our only purpose.
Hi Angi
Iâve always like what Joseph Campbell said about the question of meaning and purpose. âItâs a waist of time to ask the question when You are the Answer.
You are It!â
Life does not give you purpose or meaning but âYouâ that gives meaning and purpose to Life. From this perspective everything you are and all that you do is purpose, is meaning, the Good the bad and the ugly.
So, Follow your Bliss and Become, that is what is being asked of you! Laugh when you feel like laughing, cry when you feel like crying, be angry when your angry, happy when your happy.  Love encompasses it all.  Learn… be better as you learn better… become⌠you are G_dâs plan.
In the Lords prayer there is the statement âThey will be doneâ. Most people read that statement as a surrender to Godâs will. But what if itâs a statement of fact. Not a surrender but a acknowledgment of participation that G_dâs will, will be done and your in it. Life As It Is! Life lives off Life, Life requires the sacrifice of Life, that is lifeâs wonder and it’s horror, That is LIFEâS Awesomeness (real definition of the word). The uneasiness you experience may be rooted in that reality. The unease of sacrifice. Are you living your truth or others? Both have purpose and meaning… one though is Being.
âFollow your bliss. If you do follow your bliss, you put yourself on a kind of track that has been there all the while waiting for you, and the life you ought to be living is the one you are living. When you can see that, you begin to meet people who are in the field of your bliss, and they open the doors to you. I say, follow your bliss and don’t be afraid, and doors will open where you didn’t know they were going to be. If you follow your bliss, doors will open for you that wouldn’t have opened for anyone else.â â Joseph Campbell
Peter
ParticipantHi Lily
You may find the following book helpful: ‘Shame and Grace: Healing the Shame We Don’t Deserve’ by Lewis B. Smedes“If you persistently feel you don’t measure up, you are feeling shameâthat vague, undefined heaviness that presses on our spirit, dampens our gratitude for the goodness of life, and diminishes our joy. The good news is that shame can be healed.”
âThe difference between guilt and shame is very clear–in theory. We feel guilty for what we do. We feel shame for what we are. A person feels guilt because he did something wrong. A person feels shame because he is something wrong. We may feel guilty because we lied to our mother. We may feel shame because we are not the person our mother wanted us to be.â
âWe feel properly embarrassed when we are caught doing something that makes us look inept, knuckleheaded, or inappropriate. Maybe the difference is this: we feel embarrassed because we look bad, and we feel shame because we think we are bad. When we are embarrassed, we feel socially foolish. When we are shamed, we feel morally unworthy.â – Lewis B. Smedes
Most Shame we feel is undeserved! The book may help guide you through letting it go.
Peter
ParticipantSimon
In every relationship we make a choice to be âhappyâ together and work through all the stuff or we choose not to. Â The Book – âHow to be a Adult in Relationshipsâ by David Richo â might be a good guide through these waters.
Peter
ParticipantHi nz133:
With regards to expectations. Its important to distinguish the difference between expectations and healthy boundaries.
Peter
ParticipantHi Sophie
Similarly after what I might call a dark night of the soul and realized I was in trouble i sought out professional help with a Jungian analyst. The therapy help me regain perspective.
What do I do when I feel unbalanced? I took up ballroom dancing and wood working. The key here was a activity that took me out of myself and that required different kind of thinking.
During those times when I can’t shake the unbalanced feeling I make a conscious effort to allow it and just sit with the feeling. In those moments I usually discover that I was fighting the feeling in a attempt to avoid something I needed to deal with which only make the feeling stronger. Lately for me the feeling of being unbalanced comes from loneliness.
Peter
ParticipantHi Angi
âWhat we see changes what we know. What we know changes what we see.â – Jean Piaget
âWe create the world that we perceive, not because there is no reality outside our heads, but because we select and edit the reality we see to conform to our beliefs about what sort of world we live in.â Â â Gregory Bateson
The Law of Attraction is very much connected to the idea that we âseeâ what we expect to see and call it attraction. perhaps you heard the saying âyour car goes where your eyes goâ â âThe driver who cannot tear his eyes away from the wall as he spins out of control will meet that wall; the driver who looks down the track as he feels his tires break free will regain control of his vehicle.â – Garth Stein
Here the driver that canât look away from the wall âattractsâ the crash while the driver with a calm âmindfulnessâ looks down the track âattractsâ the regaining of control. (it is a ‘break of free will’)
I like the question of how much âfree willâ do we have as it points to my observation that we have free will however that it is difficult to exercise. (And that many people do not exercise at all – for these people every “choice” is a reaction never a response.)
There is a hermetic saying â As above so below, as below so above â we are influenced, and we influence, we are created as we create, we are bigger then big smaller then small â we are influenced from outside forces, nurture and nature, that we have no control of… yet at the same time can influence the outer by addressing the inner.
âFree willâ then may be the art of making the choice to become the change we hope to attract and create in the world.
Thus, we have the practice of mindfulness and ânot doingâ â free will is the art of not doing â howâs that for a paradox. In the words of the infomercial âset it and forgetâ it. When we try to force change we almost always shift to trying to change outside forces of which we have no control over. Imagine trying to force a plane into the air by lifting it. When we are the change we become that slight change of the wing that allows the plane to lift off.
I would argue that the Universal plan is Life – the paradox here being that life relies on the sacrifice of life. That is life’s wonder and its horror. As such life does not give us meaning, we give meaning to life. Your destiny then is to be you. You are exactly where you must be to get to where your going. So follow your bliss, drive your âcarâ mindfully, avoiding becoming fixated on fear and be the change you want to attract.
Peter
ParticipantBased on the scenario Iâd say were dealing with immature/undefined boundaries from both the sender and receiver.
When expectations about borrowing and returning items, giving and receiving, arenât clear someone is going to cross the line. Both parties are assuming they are operating on the same understanding of the idea or respect as it comes to the relationship and borrowing.
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ParticipantHi Nicolaas
We work for that which no work is required. In the Buddhist tradition the practice of mindfulness would help. You appear to be aware of the moments you become short tempered the next step would be make a choice in that moment not to react but to respond.
Like you I tend to get annoyed with last minute work requests and drivers who driving I judge to be idiotic đ I realize a while back that in those moments what I was really angry about was a lack of control. That life was showing me very clearly that I was not its center, that I was smaller then small… I’ve learned long ago that control of outside influences is a illusion and that the best we can do is influence our inner experiences – be the change we want to see…
I continue to be annoyed at other drives. A part of me enjoys my impotent anger. Its kind of a outlet. I know what I’m really frustrated about and after the outburst I take a breathe and have a good laugh at myself for thinking that my needs, my plan, my views ‘must‘ matter more, must be more important, then anyone else’s. (that is not to say they don’t matter, the problem is the must. )
This may sound trite however if you want to stop being short-tempered stop being short-tempered. When you falter, which you will, don’t beat yourself up about – just another form of short-temperance. Learn better do better, repeat, and have some laughs along the way.
Peter
ParticipantHi Omar
Not sure what the intention of the tweet. Here are my thoughts on the matter.
In psychology (mirror neuron) we discover much about ourselves through the reflection of others. We âseeâ and to âknowâ our selves through the âeyesâ of others. Â Consciousness needs something to âpush off against â youâre not conscious of cold until you also noticed warm.
Life is a continuous cycle of birth, death, and rebirth. Life demands growth (phycological/spiritual growth requires âdeathâ â not literal but death as in letting go, doing better when we learn better. Letting go is difficult because it ‘feels’ like dying to the ego).
Unconsciously we tend repress and not fully understand our pain and fear and how it has influenced us and distorted our ‘seeing/knowing’ our authentic selves. To heal our pain, we unconsciously recreate the past with those we are in relationship with hoping that they might âreflectâ back to us, in such away that that we better ‘see/know’ ourselves. Healing the past as we become conscious of how we were influence by the past and then doing better when we know better.
Each person we meet then is an opportunity for growth and healing. â note both people in relationship are participating in this cycle at the same time, healing and being healed. In a healthy relationship with healthy boundaries each will learn and heal each other. In unhealthy co-dependency relationships the fears and hurt feed off each other fears and hurt. Repeating the cycle not to heal but to re-enforce it. (Both situation we can grow from if we become conscious of it and create the healthy boundaries to avoid re-enforcement.)
The people we are in relationship with are reflections of a repeated cycle however when made conscious, in hindsight, will be thought of as being guides to a new start.
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