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Nina SakuraParticipant
Hello,
You sounds like a wonderful gal and I am sure you will eventually fine the one. I have seen time and again in my life that when the time is right, it’s meant to be, things work out. You arent a repellant to men. Some relationships didn’t work out but you know what, you don’t need 10 men, 10 relationships, you need one right one for you. Those guys weren’t meant for you. I believe something better is planned for you, that’s why these aren’t working out. Be patient and keep an open heart – you are 23 only, some people find their soulmates much later even – that’s really what counts – one right one and the good memories we make with the one that don’t work out. It will be alright, you will find an amazing man at the right time.
Regards
NinaNina SakuraParticipantHey VJ,
That’s a good question and I remember having this conversation a while ago. The reason why people say to love oneself first is varied but in simple terms it just means – we accept the love we think we deserve. If you don’t love yourself, you will put up with all kinds of shit and also attract people with poor boundaries.
Leaving that bit aside, how to find love?
Hmm I don’t know. I never looked for it per say. It just happened somehow when I was least expecting it. I kept my heart and mind open to the experience though but had clarity over time about what a good partner would mean. I met my current boyfriend at a time when I wasn’t ready for a relationship but we somehow fell into place together. Funny how fate works.
As for friends and family…well one friend found it online through a book review site. Another met the one through a friend on a social occasion. Another met the girl during a badminton tournament, someone else on a flight lol. My parents had an arranged marriage.
Currently I do have one friend who is looking for love. He is very happy with his life though – got an awesome job, good friends, supportive family but now he wants to feel a different kind of intimacy. So he seeks love but doesn’t actively look for it. There for many ways for him though – through common friends, events, arranged marriage route etc. Usually people find the person during college or office life. Some wait it out. It’s different for everyone.
So yeah I know my perspective is more skewed towards twenties age of finding love. But i am sure the other posters will have much to add.
I do believe in one thing about love – “Each failed love story is an important lesson about oneself.”
Seeking love doesn’t mean we aren’t complete in ourself, it’s just that we are human and it’s a very basic need to feel connected deeply to someone. Staying in love though is the bigger challenge ironically”
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NinaNina SakuraParticipantDear Vishesh,
I think I partially understand it now. I don’t want to undermine what you are going through in any way but then consider this – Has any of this happened to you? Could you consider reading Victor’s Frankls book “Man’s search for meaning”? He wrote this book when he was in a concentration camp and faced the most horrific situations possible. However he survived. I read about many survivor stories, the Schindler Jews too for example. I read the answers written by a woman who was experimented on along with her twin by Melenge. She is an elderly lady now and described a time where she was fighting hard to live somehow. Yes she is scarred in every way as a child but her spirit is not broken.
Life isn’t sunshine and rainbows. There is much horror that has happened and is happening in this world. There is a terrible war in Syria, unspeakable horrors in Africa, such awful things now – 20 million perished under Stalin, then there was Khymer Rouge, even in India, millions died during famine.
You are right. There is much bad even now but my question to you is ” is this happening to you? ”
How is feeling for them and getting so emotional helping you? How is it helping your contribution in any way ?The purpose of meditation is to teach your mind to focus, be an observer – calmness is an after-effect rather. You have a fixated belief that the effect is set in stone. There is nothing like that. You are the one controlling you at the end of the day. I suggest you try some of Sadhgurus videos on YouTube.
https://www.innerengineering.com/online/blog/take-a-deep-breath-meditation-for-anxiety-relief
There is a meditation manual explained by the Ramakrishna Mission too – check out Vivekanda Samitis videos especially by Sarvapriya Nanda.
I do understand your distress. I experienced this too when I saw some disturbing things as a child especially and a while back as an adult. However, the mind is capable of being regulated and Vedic scripture particularly emphasizes this, so does modern psychology. Here you have a choice.
I apologise if I came off as harsh in any way. Please dont think of spiritual journey in black and white terms. It is something that takes years of sadhna and this is true even for monks, priests. The whole idea is to learn to be really present and focused. You have not failed. You are simply in a particular stage and must learn from a good teacher.
These experiences happen during an anxiety disorder. The disorder arises when this dark cloud becomes a regular storm disrupting the ongoing of daily life. However, mood is like weather. It changes, there is a feedback cycle too. Your thoughts are reversible with the right help. You sound like a very positive person and can surely overcome this.
Do check out this video – I hope everyone else here will offer a different perspective too.
Regards
NinaNina SakuraParticipantDear Vishesh
Okay thanks for writing back, actually am not super clear about what was it related to what you read, saw that triggered you? As Anita asked, was it feelings or a thought about the world in general? Did you see about the jews, the Japanese etc? Also what did the teacher say that “re-traumatized” you? Like what was the basic “thought” behind it ? Was it the horrors of the visual, was it this feeling that humanity is doomed etc?
That’s the bit I am not understanding. Can you explain bit more?
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NinaNina SakuraParticipantHello,
I would like to know more if thats fine. What exactly is your worry? What are the thoughts and how are they related to the reality you are living through?
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NinaNina SakuraParticipantHello,
These issues are complicated, more so with the past events thrown in. Two years ago, I sought therapy for a short while. My doc said I had suffered/was suffering from something called major depressive disorder and generalized anxiety too. I wasn’t surprised though but I wasn’t keen on starting medication. Neither was she due to certain other medical factors. Since I wasn’t suicidal at that point, I was in a more receptive state about what could help me live better.
Anyway, my psychologist was very positive though and said that with the right kind of help, I could make recovery. I was relieved and we began two things – one being talk therapy to get through lot of uncomfortable emotions, work through number of twisted thought processes.
This was supplemented by something called relaxation therapy where I was taught how to use a combination of breathing exercises, bodily adjustments to get my body to calm down. It wasn’t easy though but I did learn number of skills along the way and it was comforting to talk to someone about what was really bothering me.
The biggest help though was being able to find outlets through breathing exercises like pranayam (Google this) and physical exercise, proper diet. Then of course, as I felt more okay over the months, I could reach out to people and was surprised by how good some of them were. Having a few good people here and there helps too.
Turning towards spirituality also provided me with an internal compass of sorts to ride through the days, outside of the events that were happening. Discovering that inner locus of control was really important. I took to the ideas in the Bhagwad Gita for example regarding developing composure of oneself. I still have a long way to go.
Basically what I am saying is don’t expect a dramatic change overnight. Thia process has started since 2012 and even now i am progressing.
Healing is possible though with the right help. Coming to terms with things that you couldn’t possibly control as a child is possible – it doesn’t mean you aren’t a capable person in general. It doesn’t mean your whole life will be here in this place.
As Anita said, it’s best to move away from all of this, venture into the unknown to heal. I am sure you can feel better too over time and really build a good life, not the one you saw as a kid but something better.
Regards
NinaNina SakuraParticipantDo try this if you get time –
Nina SakuraParticipantAnd sorry about a few typos here and there – it’s a bit difficult to type on the phone 🙂
Nina SakuraParticipantDear cestdanielle,
As per what i have read, your current situation is this –
You are 21
Live in a particular region
You work in a job that pays bills but you don’t like too much
You have had a troubled home life
You lack self confidence, suffer from anxietyYou want to stay in same place
But move away tooHowever it is difficult to make this change.
Have I understood correctly so far?
I won’t ask you to go to therapy and sort of out the past. It is recommended though because there appears to be a lot of the past to sort out, lot of distorted thinking etc.
I would suggest you spend some minutes of the day without gadgets, technology or people to unwind into something like needlework or painting which requires concentration but is not mentally taxing. Your mind needs rest, it is much like a fast flowing furious stream of thoughts now without enough focus. That’s why you can’t see clearly beyond the body’s frightened, stressed state.
Also start a practise of breathing exercises like alternate noistril breathing and other pranayam. Writing down thoughts would help too.
And lastly, I want to say it’s okay. Things are uncertain now but i suppose the whole point of this difficult situation now is to teach you the skills to come out of it. Those skills in turn will help you throughout in your life – things like regulating your emotional state, staying calm, grappling with uncertainity. You are doing alright though and asking good questions through this turmoil period. Its a gradual process and things do change with time.
What do you think?
Regards
NinaNina SakuraParticipantFocus on developing your music, your skills on a daily basis – try to be better than what you are yesterday.
There will be people who will be better or worse than you in this area. The cycle of comparing is pointless. What you need to see is how you can get ideas and improvement points from others.
Accept that your music is good but have the humility to improve.
This all boils down to a fixed vs growth mindset. Manage your negative thoughts.
When you feel overwhelmed by how good they are, tell yourself you are lucky to be around such talented people. It means you are talented too and can learn from them as well.
Nina SakuraParticipantDear Aiyanna,
Good to know that you have clarity about what you want. All the best to you 🙂
Regards
NinaNina SakuraParticipantDear Maria,
I don’t know if I am the right person to comment here but rather than considering the rigid ideas in religion, consider the spiritual aspects. I do not believe in various culturally ingrained aspects of the religion I was born into but I am fascinated with the deep ideas in the scriptures. there are some teachers whose thinking I found less about religious rituals, stubborn ideas and more about cultivating a clear mind to find ones own ideas about what is the right way.
Their focus was to develop ones principles outside of social conditioning and more in tune with ones inner nature. This is a rather long process and can take years but the changes come from within. Of course this led to some basic questions being asked like “how to concentrate” “how to cultivate a focused mind” “how to deal with negativity of the world outside” “how to be less anxious” – all are inter-related. The biggest lesson for me was if you can’t become your own friend first, then no amount of reading holy books, doing meditation will fix the basic thing that is chaotic – which is the inner world.
The outer one requires inter-dependance with others and certain skills. These are the ones where you need to consciously exercise your own will too. Be aware of what is right in front of you. Consider carefully why you can’t forgive the friend and the consequences of this from all points of view – for your mind and the people around you. When you are overwhelmned, calm your mind and ask yourself “what is really right for me?”
Regards,
NinaDecember 13, 2016 at 11:12 am in reply to: How to help suicidal friend without losing my own sanity? #122619Nina SakuraParticipantDear Rose,
The best thing you can do now is simply offer her your time and companionship rather than any advice. Sit quietly in a room together, eat popcorn and watch a good movie like “Shawshank Redemption” for example. Some days she will cry, some days she will say she doesn’t want to go on. When that happens, tell her you love her very much and she means the world to you. Take her out in simple places like a park with lots of sunshine, a walk here and there.
I rememeber two books that helped – one was William Stryder’s experience on his depression and another was “Man’s search for meaning” by Victor Frankl. Both describe the worst situations of the mind and how they went on despite it, especially the second book.
No mention about the bad things within – when she will feel strong enough inside, she will come to you herself but she needs to know she is not “nothing” – I really dunno how to explain it…the need to push away and yet have someone there.
You can’t really fix this. It’s not so simple, at best you can be there for her. Please ask her partner and family members/close ones to keep a close eye on her in case she tries taking any drastic step.
Don’t leave her unwatched for too long but don’t do it in an obvious way either.
I know it seems like a lot of work and requires restraint but such situations need extreme patience.
In your case, the best way to look after yourself would be to go home and relax by yourself, not think too much about what happened between the two of you. Write your own negative thoughts down and then shut the book. Deattaching from the situation is really important for your mental health.
Regards
NinaDecember 13, 2016 at 3:13 am in reply to: I took a break from the Internet and nearly had a panic attack #122586Nina SakuraParticipantDear Ellen,
I will emphasize on the same idea as mentioned in your previous post – balance.
Even monks use laptops and Internet now.
Nothing in excess is good but going cold turkey makes no sense.
I suggest you try a habit of taking a walk for half an every day without the phone or internet connected gadgets.
Just walk, be present outside. No need to take extreme actions and cause unnecessary suffering to yourself.
Regards
NinaNina SakuraParticipantJake perhaps you could sit right in the first bench, towards the side and then raise your hand to make the point. Have a question to ask your professor right after the class and mention that you get nervous though you do know what the answer it.
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