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  • in reply to: Who Am I ? #320749
    Luke
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    All good points. I’m finding the therapy helping a little bit and trying to read up on abandonment and past pain issues.

    My ex breaking up with me was yeah the same really. I knew she had been bi in the past and she never denied that. She also was very promiscuous and slept with a bunch of people and when we first dated obviously we were very passionate and then it tapered off once we got married. Which was kind of a red flag. At late 20’s shouldn’t have been like that really. On top of all the other people she slept with just fine. Very confusing and hurts (I know I shouldn’t hold on to the ego thing) but my ego in terms of aren’t I better than all those other people ? And yeah my Dad the same thing. Why wouldn’t you go to counseling or talk to someone if you’re unhappy instead of breakup everything in a crappy way.  Gets to the point where I do gestures or say things a way that my Dad does and it just hurts now. All the stuff that I did with my wife, I still eat the same meals etc. All the memories. Feel like I want a reset. Can I just start over without all this stuff that’s influenced me for the last 31 years. I know you say I’m not the one who gets to feel bad, but its still painful and I feel bad that I need to change. Still torn between well why should I have to do all of this because other people screwed me over.

    Should I just not every worry about anything because its always going to be either better or worse. People are going to do what they’re going to do so I shouldn’t attach very much at all? I didn’t do that with my marriage, didn’t have one foot out the door or looking for something else, maybe I should? I’ve never really related to my Dad, should I just leave it where it is ? The not knowing who I am is just making me doubt that I’m going to make the right decision about these things. Having someone else to ground past decisions on made it well more grounded. Did what my Dad said to keep the peace and avoid conflict. Did what my Wife wanted for the same reasons and because I felt guilty about having to subject her to living with my parents for 6 months when we first moved to Canada and her not being able to work for a year and a half. So I helped her with starting her photography business and then once shes self sufficient shes now lesbian and left.

    Don’t really feel like I ever want to put whatever I am in that position again.

    in reply to: Can't move on and Leg go #316361
    Luke
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    All correct (unfortunately) . Thank you for your time and insights Anita.

    I’m trying to see it in terms of sunken investment. I put all my chips on one number and unfortunately the house won. I don’t think I’ll ever be in a good position to see her again. It will just cause me pain, I’m sure she has probably moved on and isn’t losing sleep over me anyway. Just the way that she is, she moves away from painful things and goes immediately to the new. I’m also trying to see it that people have a lot of damage in their childhoods that can cause damage to other people. I have the same damage from childhood but chose to not let it affect other people, If at the price of me reserving myself and not opening up fully. I don’t think I’ll be making the mistake of putting all my chips on one number again. I overreached too much through the whole thing and we both wanted the security for different reasons.

    I have a book called the mindful self-compassion workbook that I’ll work though and try to make sense of getting back to an equilibrium again. Hopefully though going through that and others I can make sense of everything. As you said she will be the same way either way. Just at the moment feels like she has all the benefit and i’m still scrambling in the dirt. I guess for the moment.

    in reply to: Can't move on and Leg go #315457
    Luke
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    Just wish I could extend that to the other ‘worries’.

    That my parent’s divorce is going to get messy and I’m going to get dragged in. Then that i’m going to have to go through my own divorce as well. (I never even though growing up anyone would want to marry me and now I’m getting divorced at 31). I’m worried that my ex has already moved on now that she doesn’t have me and our relationship keeping her trapped in a falsehood. That I’m not going to find anyone who I relate to as much as her. We won’t have the history and it just wont be enough, that I won’t be enough for someone.

    Worried i’m losing it everyday when the reality just keeps hitting. I get distracted by work for a bit or when I first wake up in the morning. I’m convinced a huge part of me just doesn’t want to get over this, feels too big.

    in reply to: Can't move on and Leg go #314667
    Luke
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    Yeah, I have been talking about the attachment trauma and styles with my therapist. I think there is a Psychotherapist who talks about conscious uncoupling and about there being island and wave attachment types. I know my Ex and I were very opposite in many ways. She preferred to have a care free attitude about some stuff and often got herself into little situations that I was around to fall back on. The over the top instances being her drinking too much so she could have fun but having me to take care of her.

    I have unfortunately inherited a lot of worry and stress from my parents that I have always felt debilitated me. That frustrated her a lot that i could just relax and enjoy myself. Thats the main thing that I feel I want to take away from all of this. We all everyone in my family have had this idea of what life Is supposed to be. Even Ella when she was being more of herself still wanted the house and job and marriage to appease her family. Now having fully abandoned that to be her true lesbian self. I know I’m not going to aim for that white picket life any more. My parents are now also divorcing which means they will probably have to sell the large house they got last year. So even after 35+ years of working towards that Its now not going to be how they thought.

    I think learning how to live with zero expectation or at least not wanting those things will help mitigate when life starts throwing the lemons my way.

    in reply to: Can't move on and Leg go #314499
    Luke
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    I’m trying to view it that way but its hard. My Ex always used to chastise me for worrying about the future or assuming that something would go wrong. Then when It did, I at least felt a bit prepared for it. I guess I couldn’t have prepared for her coming out and then leaving me.

    Just not sure what accepting that looks like yet. Just have to say ‘better luck next time’ I guess ?

    I keep thinking that I want stepping stones or markers out of this thing. I told myself and others that i needed to meet up with her to have a sort of letting go ritual. So that I could almost get permission from her to let go. (This was when we met for a drink and chat 3 months ago, she told me she had already had a fling and slept with a random woman and was doing all these new life things). When we would have celebrated our anniversary I took some old photos and what i had been writing down the last few months and a letter I wrote her to the park and burnt them up. Now I’m looking for the next stepping stone out. But I think I’m just kidding myself with all of that. She clearly doesn’t need anything, she just moved on without looking back it seems.

    in reply to: Can't move on and Leg go #314099
    Luke
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    Thank you both,

    It is really hard and not having the one person who can make it feel better makes it worse. In the beginning it felt like a cheesy 90’s music video of everyone moving in blurs around me just sitting on a bench. I know what you mean by it feeling wrong. I don’t feel like I have made any movement at all in the last 5 months. Just writhing and feeling the same thing. Whilst she is off having a new life with new people. If it’s so easy to just end it and move on then whats the point. Everything and everyone says to just accept it and move on. So something bad happens, accept it and move on, then the next bad thing happens, accept it and move on, and on and on.

     

    in reply to: Can't move on and Leg go #313845
    Luke
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    I’m scared I’m regressing back to what it was before. When we met 8 years ago it felt like I had finally been found what I was missing. It was different obviously in early 20s to now, but feel like a lot of me was just our relationship and she was always just herself and changed and made little concessions but was still herself.

    I’d never felt right or ‘seen’ growing up. Even though I have a fairly good job and have family and friends (although my parent marriage has now also imploded) I don’t feel normal or enough. The one person who actually saw me and liked me enough to want to spend her life with me is gone now.

    in reply to: Can't move on and Leg go #313775
    Luke
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    I think thats a big part of what’s grating on me at the moment. She’s now able to go back to ‘normal’, be herself and be with other random people she’s hooking up with. But they haven’t done the work I had to.

    I still have this need for her and she’s quite easily left and started a new life like it was nothing. And I feel like I have a lot more to do to get to a ‘normal’ stage. Feel inadequate in comparison, I still feel like I have a duty to the relationship or something stupid and she’s off having all the fun and being happy that she didn’t have with me.

    in reply to: Can't move on and Leg go #313493
    Luke
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    Thank you both again.

    I know i’m idealising everything right now as it was so important to me.

    No relationship is perfect but it was as close to perfect as I had known so far. But I don’t know yet how much of that was making concessions to keep the piece. Both of our experiences of our parent’s marriages were of fighting and screaming matches, so we did a lot to avoid that in our relationship.

    We were also different types of people (I know opposites attract to some degree). She was always very confident with people and was quite promiscuous and had some drinking issues as well which came up. She would challenge me to be more confident which is what I’ve needed for a long time. But she would also go a bit too far in chastising me for being negative about a situation ahead of time, or my not being confident enough to sing or dance like she would. (despite me saying that a lot of my childhood had had given me that issue) I don’t know it doesn’t seem like a big deal now in the grand scheme of things but when you want your person to understand and they don’t its frustrating sometimes.

    I don’t know If I felt disapproved of or hurt, but maybe more just misunderstood. She would have a lack of confidence sometimes about her photography business but I don’t know how much of that was phishing for compliments sometimes.  I would support her and not give a judgement.

    in reply to: Can't move on and Leg go #313379
    Luke
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    Thank you both for your input.

    I feel like the struggle is to know how to move forward now. I feel static like i’m going to make a misstep or go too far in the wrong direction. I now have no-one to include in that decision. Every decision or direction we took, we took together. I did in faith that she would always be with me.

    When we met up the last time for a drink and a talk. It was evident that she was focusing on her photography business and dating people and sleeping with women after only two months. It makes me feel like it couldn’t have been that important to her, but I’m still losing one of the most crucial parts of my life. If she could keep something like that so well hidden and abandon me while dealing with my parents splitting as well, did I even know her?

    I can’t even imagine dating or sleeping with someone new. Doesn’t even seem like its going to be possible. Feel pretty trashed and like she’s probably glad she can fix her mistake of being with me. She always had plenty to say about my flaws so now she’s probably laughing at me right now.

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