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For me codependency has been very real. I am slowly (this year) letting go and learning my way out of my co dependent relationship. Which is extremely difficult given the fact that we still live together. Being co dependent is horrific. It makes you physically ill from emotions and feelings. Who knew. My codependency is with an alcoholic and drug user. I would literally make myself so physically sick with worry and having to take care of him in every way possible that I could no longer function as myself. I took it upon myself after my therapist looked at me and she told me: “As a therapist I could recommend millions of ways and things to help you, but as a woman, as a person, as a friend I could tell you this. You are going to kill yourself doing this to yourself. Your son is going to be a depressed and anxious boy if you continue to submit yourself to this. Get a grip on life and start the process of letting go. You want to be with this man, fine. But it has to be different, it has to change. YOU have to change.” Those words drilled into my head like nothing else ever had. I looked at my son that day when I got home and hugged him so tight. My heart broke to realize the damage I was doing to him. So I got a grip on life. I took every tool that I had been given by my therapist, books, meetings, whatever, and finally put it to use. I started attending Nar Anon meetings and it changed my life. Sure I still struggle but boy have I come a long way in just a few months. You have to know that you cant help people. Especially those that cannot help themselves. I know my story is not the same as yours but I can associate with what you are feeling. I can only suggest to continue your meetings. They are wonderful and so very helpful. It has changed my life around when I didn’t think anything else could.
lissyParticipant@kelsi I think that I can be honest with you here…
He has already let you know how he feels. He likes you but doesn’t want anything serious. It’s not that he’s leading you on, he just doesn’t want to be tied down. So I think that after he told you that he did not want anything serious and you still visited with him and spent time together…he maybe took it as you understanding what he meant by that. So I think that NOW when you ask him about your “situation” he doesn’t know what to say anymore because he has already explained it to you. He already see how attached and emotional you are about him and he doesn’t seem like a “jerk” and maybe that is why he can’t be rudely BLUNT with you and say he absolutely doesn’t want to be more than what you are now, which is nothing but friends and sex. If you do make the decision of forgetting about him and moving on, the first thing you need to do is remove him from your facebook account and any other social media you might have him on. Not to say you two will never speak again but, it’s only hurting you and keeping your hopes up when he “likes” something and makes him seem interested. For now at least it would be wise to do that. You seem like a wonderfully sweet girl, if a relationship is what you want, this guy is not the one for you. He doesn’t want to be the one for you.lissyParticipantHi there tiny butterfly. As I read your story I couldn’t help but envision myself in the same way. I have been (and still am) in a relationship that has changed my core. I never used to cry for everything. Now I have become so broken and sensitive that I cry for every emotion that I feel. Sometimes that can be a very bad thing (for me). I feel that I no longer have control of those emotions, and that this strong woman that I once was is no longer here. I cry when im angry, sad, confused, etc. I have gone through A LOT with my guy of 6 years. And I mean A LOT. I too have come to the desperate point of getting so angry and things he did at one point and enraged that I hit him. I never ever thought that I could be even capable of doing that to anyone. But I did. And I feel terrible with myself for letting his actions get me so worked up and out of control that it drove me to that point. That’s not the person I wanted to be. We broke up for about 9 months, separated, moved away from each other (we lived together), and we got back together (and moved back in together) in March. Things have been…hard. But I have made the choice to work on things and so has he. We have a child together, so it makes things different. I have also made the choice to work on myself. That is what I suggest to you. You need to go searching for the new you. You will never get that old you back. That person has had trauma happen in her life. I say trauma because what you have gone through has changed YOU. But you can build yourself back up. I say write down the things you treasured the most about yourself and try you hardest to tap into those things again. Maybe at this point in life you will have learned a lot about yourself from these relationships. For example, who you do NOT want to be. Also writing is so therapeutic. You can lose yourself in writing close the entire world out and just literally take your thoughts and put them on paper. It’s like talking, but to your notebook. When I find I am going through a moment, or I feel a bad thing coming on, I go to my notebook and take a deep breath. Writing what I am feeling at that exact moment is like having someone listening to me (when I don’t have anyone to talk to). Try it and let us know how it goes đ
lissyParticipant@chungta I would think about whether or not I could live with myself if I didn’t make the decision that I truly wanted. Yes your decision might hurt people you love, but in reality you must do what makes you happy, if not, you will be the one to suffer. As @jyoti mentioned, as long as your decision does not HARM anyone I think you should do what it is you want to do. People in your life will not always understand, respect, or agree with decisions you make. This cannot stop you EVER from making them. You have to walk in your own shoes everyday, you have to live in your mind, body, and soul. Not anyone else. Therefor no one else should be able to convince you not to do something you think will truly make your life complete or happy. I would consider thinking this through again and ask yourself if you could really live happily without making and following through with the decision you truly want to make.
lissyParticipant@blaice As you may know (or maybe you donât) people that have had (or currently have) drug problems tend to (literally) disappear. For hours, days, weeks even. This has happened in our relationshipâŚon various occasions, not recently since we got back together but in the past. One thing that stuck with me on the very first time I experienced this and as I was crying my eyes out and pretty much going into hysteria, were the words of my brother. He said to me: Wherever he is, is where he wants to be right now. God those words stick with me till this day. I donât just apply those exact words to everything, but the message that he was trying to give me was that, whatever he was doing, he was doing because he wanted to do it, wherever he was at the moment, he was there because he wanted to be there. I didnât understand that at first (since I was drowning in my own tears), but I later understood that this man had a mind of his own and made his own decisions, good or bad. It had nothing to do with me or with what I wanted or needed from him. It had to do with his own selfish being.
The next few times that he did this âdisappearing actâ of course those words from my brother flew right out the window, but I donât think that I questioned the âwhyâ is he doing this? I knew exactly why, it was because he wanted to. This of course, brought up more of the angry feeling out of me because I couldnât understand why (again with the why), after me being (in my mind) such a great person to him, why out of nowhere could he put me through this? It was, as you said in your response to my post, simple. Because he did not want to be this good person (for that present moment). Itâs this âtruthâ that I still struggle with today. I try to stop asking myself âwhyâ? My oldest sister has also contributed her thoughts and told me that I donât need closure. That I can give myself âmy ownâ closure. Pick a reason out of a hat and thatâs it. Youâve got your own closure. She told me :â If thatâs not good enough for you, then you are going to make yourself hurt, and it would be your own fault this timeâ. Itâs true! Why canât we just take any reason and take it as our key to move on from the problem at hand? Why canât we accept the âreasonâ given by those that hurt us and move on? I have the answer to that one. Because the reasons given are never EVER going to be good enough reason for the pain we have gone through. I have had to literally MAKE myself believe that âit is what it isâ. As I write those words I laugh because I have always hated it when people say that! But I must say that itâs the only way I can stop my over analytical (as you mentioned) thoughts and just breathe, try to communicate to him the best way I can and have been doing, and only hope that he receives that as me trying to understand him and not trying to attack him (which will only lead to him NOT wanting to talk and just leave).
Thatâs what I have learned. Donât get me wrong, I still struggle with this, and still have to deal with this everyday. But I do feel like it getâs easier. With places like Tiny Buddha and people like you that are willing to help me and help each other by sharing, advising, and just plain talking about our experiences helps immensely.
lissyParticipant@blaice Wow is what i said to myself as i read the post. I have been in a relationship for 6 years. Things went left about 3 years ago. So many to even list, but the point is that things were done to me that until this day have left me, more than anything, confused. Reason for this confusion, in my mind, has always been because i never got any closure to the arguments troubles that he put me through. I still think of everything to this day. I have made myself believe that the reason i still do this is because i never got any closure. He didn’t cheat but I’ll put that as the example. He cheats, begs for forgiveness, but gives no explanation. Only gives apologies. You fight about it, cry about it, go insane about it, lose sleep, don’t eat, and cry some more. But no explanation as to why the behavior or actions were made. And you stay with him. Move on as if nothing happened. This has happened more times than i can count in my relationship. Not the cheating part. The no explanation, move on (but not really move on) as if nothing happened part. For me, not being able to understand the “WHY” is what has crippled me. Out of no where (like flashbacks you get of a terrible accident) i start thinking of that very first thing he did. Then comes that second thing…you get the point. I blame it all on not getting any closure from those “things” that happened. Things he did to me, to our relationship, to our trust. My therapist said it’s because im in shock. That I am mentally in SHOCK. Lol. Yeah, in shock that i can actually be in shock over something like this. Anyway, i didn’t mean to go on and on like this. Reading your post made me think…why can’t i simply take it as what it was and actually move on from it. I’m obviously still with him so it’s not like i don’t want to forgive and forget. I do. That’s the problem. He has made changes, so why am i still reflecting on things that happened 3 years ago? Let these thoughts take over and cripple me? Because i didn’t get “closure” or a straight up answer or explanation?
lissyParticipantTracy, you are right. I know that it will all either come together and i will be able to forget about all this and move on with our relationship or…not. Thank you for your words, and i hope that you continue on Tiny Buddha. It has really saved me in more ways than one đ
lissyParticipantYour words. I can relate to having felt that at an end of a relationship. I wish you could have expressed them to him. My wish (as i read your story) was to tell you to maybe consider leaving this note in his belongings and have him pick them up without you being present. This way you could have known that he would have heard you one way or another without having to go through more of the pain you had been going through with his harshness. It would have been best (in my opinion). But when i read that the exchange had already gone through, i was sad to know that he did not allow you to do that. Just know that if your heart feels peace now..you did the right thing. If you can breathe easier…you did the right thing.
lissyParticipantHi Ashley… let me tell you that i too share somewhat of how you feel about friendships. Ive had many friends and for one reason or another i end up cutting them off completely out of my life. Completely. Ask me how many friends i have today? I am 28 years old. Ive lived in New York, Miami, Atlanta, Tampa…etc. I should have many friends! But the reality and the sad truth is… i have 2 friends. These 2 friends of mine live more than 400 miles away from me. We don’t talk much, we don’t text or email much either. But these are the only 2 people i can call my friends. Other people have let me down in one way or another. Someone once told me “Don’t ever expect 100% out of people, you will never get it and that’s when the disappointment happens”. I always said that i would always give 100% to a friend, always be there, never fail. But im only human and so is everyone else. So when people let me down, didn’t come through on things or disappointed me, i took it personal and to heart and completely X’d them out of my life, never speaking to them again. But then i asked myself one day, could i be there for a friend at a drop of a hat? No. So i have tried my best to change my thoughts and learn how to not take things “personal”. It’s been much better for me in my new relationships. My story isn’t the same as yours but i can relate to not being able to find that “attachment” if you will. And Ashley, im glad you found the forum. It’s a life saver.
lissyParticipantGood for you Tracey…hoping for the best for you. To answer your question about my situation…the answer is simple. I love him. Finding these things out about him don’t change my love for him over night. Ive been to many therapy sit downs to try and understand this and get out of my head a little. You know…think outside the box as to why this happened. I love him very much and my son does as well. That’s his “daddy”. So it’s not so easy for me to just cut all feelings of and say go to hell. Yes i felt that way at first. Very angry, hurt and most of all confused. But as i let my feelings settle and started to think with a clear head i realized that i would want to work it out and TRY to understand or even to forget. The question does remain as to if he is still doing this. And i can’t give an answer. Because i truly don’t know. Do i think he is? No. I don’t trust him what so ever. Which is not a good thing! I am slowly (and when i say slowly i mean as slow as a snail) trying to rebuild trust in him, baby steps. But i do still get flashbacks. And they are literally flashbacks, like what you see people get in the movies of a horrible accident… My therapist says its shock. I believe her. I just don’t know if i will ever be able to trust him again, or believe in him, or not question him… This is hard for me because if he’s being true and honest and truly trying to work on this relationship, why am i so negative about everything?
lissyParticipantI too have the same fear of my partners sexuality. Ive been with my guy almost 6 years now. We had a huge relationship defining moment about a year ago when i found pictures of him wearing my underwear and i found a porn site on his computer…gay porn. We split up for 9 months. It was the worst time of my life. The entire process was heart breaking not only for myself but also for my 7 year old which he has raised as his own. I was determined to let him go because frankly…how could i live with those images in my head anymore right? Well after the split, and after him begging and us talking and fighting (which isnt a bad thing) about what happened. We got back together. There isnt a day that goes by that i dont think about what happened at least once a day. Did i question his sexuality? MOST DEFINITELY. Do i still question it? I dont know anymore. He’s had a drug problem/alcohol problem…been to rehab, AA, all that. Things seem calm in that aspect now, but can i blame what he was doing on those things??? I dont know. My therapist said that he could have been doing those things to be closer to me. Could have…but not for certain.
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