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KatieParticipant
Anita,
I agree, I think I am a very outgoing person naturally. My 2 younger brothers have so many friends. They are very outgoing. So it makes sense that I am the same way. But for some reason…. I can be verry quiet and very shy in person. This makes me question… why am I so shy? Why am I so quiet? Because I know that naturally I am not. For some reason I am very afraid of saying/doing the wrong things. I am afraid to be myself. Honestly though, I see myself slowly changing to be less awkward/shy. People say the exact same thing you say when they get to know me. They say I am expressive, loud, funny, etc. When I said I had no personality, no brains, and all that stuff, those were just mean things people had said to me in the past. I think I often replay the mean things people tell me in my head. It is almost like sometimes I get in these bad moods where I get very sad and tell myself I am not worth it. Stupid people (who don’t know me at all, they are just dumb and judgmental) have said those things about me. One person I used to be friends with talked very bad about me saying I had no personality (a very mean way of pointing out my shyness), while another stupid person had called me dumb and brainless.
And as for my mom thing, I am not sure. Your right, when I posted that thread about my mom telling me the story about preschool, I felt like it made me feel something was wrong with me. Right now, I am in a pretty healthy state of mind to say that most of my self deprecation comes from my very low self esteem. Now, I can confidently say there is nothing wrong with, that I do have a strong personality, and that I am not brainless. However, there are so many moments where I feel so worthless. And I will just replay all the negative things people say about me and start believing them. I will begin to see myself very negatively, and when I look back at all the negative things people say about me I think “oh, so this is how I seem to the world”
I went out this weekend with my friends and I was very outgoing and not awkward at all (like I have been in the past). I was meeting new people and having a really good time. I felt good. Even though there is still so much more to talk about in this thread, I feel like I have gained some confidence in myself back. Just simply realizing that my shyness/social anxiety probably comes from something in my childhood (that wasn’t my fault) makes me feel more confident in myself.
But I think it is important to tell you that in social situations (usually) I feel very awkward and anxious. My body tenses up, I don’t feel comfortable. I literally can’t help being awkward. It completely causes me to shut down, I can’t even talk normally or be myself. But so far I have felt more confident in myself that I haven’t reacted that way. I think talking about this with you has helped a lot so far, even in the slightest way. I just wanted to note that
- This reply was modified 6 years, 8 months ago by Katie.
KatieParticipantAnita,
He kept getting mad at me for dumb things. He wanted me to sleepover his house but I said no because I had school the next day. He got so mad at me and threatened to break up saying “if you loved me you’d sleep in my bed tonight” but then he apologized the next day saying “sorry I shouldn’t have gotten mad”
Then yesterday I went to hangout with my friends and he got so mad. Then he apologized again and said “sorry I am not mad that you’re hanging out with your friends, I just feel like you’re different”
Then last night my friend went to ask someone to prom so we were at a guy’s house (only went to support my friend) and he accused me of being with a guy. Then he went off on me saying I treat him so bad and that I lie and that his ex was better (in bed and all around). Then that was that he just broke up with me.
Now I am so hurt I have been crying all morning
KatieParticipantAnita,
I will reply to this post later in the day, I just need to think about it before I answer
KatieParticipantYeah, bullying really affected my mom. I remember sitting in the sun room almost every evening with my mom as she would sip a glass of wine. This is when she would talk about her life to me. She wouldn’t always talk about bullying/ her childhood but sometimes it would come up. She would tell stories of how she was bullied for her chubbiness. One story I remember went like this… one of her neighbors came up to her house and asked her to play. So my mom said yes and then she was led to an entire group of boys who then threw rocks at her saying “lose some weight”
Obviously this wasn’t my mom’s fault. My mom was just a little chubby, it wasn’t her fault the kids in her neighborhood were so mean. She also grew up in a very bad neighborhood, there was a lot of violence. So this probably wasn’t unusual for that area. Kids were just super mean. Maybe this, in conjunction with other kids not treating me the best either, made me feel very insecure.
In addition to telling me stories of bullying, my mom also told me stories of how she went away on vacation one summer and got super tan and lost 20 pounds. She said as soon as that happened to her, everyone wanted to be her friend and she became super popular.
Popularity is something that is kinda unavoidable when you’re a kid, but usually adults tell you its fake. But here my mom was telling me stories about it. So… maybe I felt like I was very low on the “popularity scale” because I wasn’t skinny nor tan.
I’ll think more about this and if I think of anything else then I will add on. I still don’t feel like this completely explains it. My mom’s stories may have warped my perception a little, but I feel like it was also things I observed in school. The popular kids were smart, athletic, skinny. I wasn’t ANY of those things. I honestly think something was going on in my life that caused me to completely lose the ability to concentrate. Maybe it was anxiety? All I remember is being unable to concentrate. I felt like teachers disliked me. I was struggling a lot in school. I really try to emphasize the fact that later on I ended up doing VERY WELL in school. Proof it wasn’t my actual intellectual ability that was causing me to fail all my tests. For all I know maybe it was just the fact that I was lazy and dumb. My parents would spend hours with me just trying to teach me multiplication.
I remember once my mom and dad sat me down for at least 2 hours helping me with my math homework (we were learning how to multiply double digits). I was about 9 years old. I remember being so unable to grasp it. My parents aren’t math teachers, but they were doing their best to help me through the steps. It took so long just to do one worksheet. It was extremely frustrating for me. I couldn’t do it but after 2 hours I finally got through it. I came in to class the next day and my teacher asked me to do a problem. I couldn’t do it because I still was unable to grasp it. Despite spending so long on it the night before, I couldn’t do it when my teacher asked. My brain would not grasp it. I remember my teacher yelled at me so badly and began accusing me of using a calculator. I felt so upset because it literally took me HOURS to do this yet still couldn’t understand. I was crying uncontrollably, which made my teacher believe I was just crying because I got caught. I don’t remember getting in trouble, just yelled at. I felt so frustrated and hopeless. I felt stupid. This was my life from about 3rd grade to 5th grade. Just feeling completely inferior to all the students who could learn it effortlessly. Why didn’t my brain grasp it? I don’t know. But I was such a good kid, I never did anything wrong. So getting yelled at CONSTANTLY by my teachers just made me feel like complete garbage. I was yelled at so often for simply being dumb. I felt stupid, I felt slow. I felt like something that would take a normal student 20 minutes to learn took me 2 weeks.
I know I kinda went off on a tangent but maybe that has to do with it. Doesn’t really have as much to do with my family being inferior but rather how school made me lose all self esteem.
KatieParticipantAnita,
I can’t really remember. I am trying hard to think. Maybe it was because my mom? She would complain about how none of the other moms like her. And she may not have been crazy in saying that because I can see other moms being rude to my mom. Girls are mean. Even grown women. But I constantly felt like everyone disliked my family. I don’t know, I honestly can’t remember a specific thing that caused me to feel like my family was inferior.
But one thing that I can remember made me feel inferior in general was the fact that I was chubby. Kids would be super mean to me about it. They would make fun of me for it. They would say “oh, she wears a size L” (I would get mad because I honestly wasn’t even a size large I was like a size medium). Funny thing is, my mom used to tell me about how she went through bullying because of her weight. I never told my mom that kids were mean to me about it, but my mom openly told me she used to be bullied for it. So, in my head, I think I thought “oh, my mom was made fun of for her weight and now I am being made fun of for mine” While I can’t say I was bullied (my mom was bullied verrryyy badly), I was definitely put down for it. Maybe I saw this as something in my genes. Like I was born to be chubby and to be inferior. I don’t know. That’s my best guess but I honestly could be completely off/missing a lot. I feel like there is more to it than only that. There were lots of things that bothered me when I was young. I felt inferior because I couldn’t concentrate like other kids. It was like I had a learning disability. This doesn’t concern my family but I think that was definitely a reason for my low self esteem for a long time.
KatieParticipantAnita,
Yes I would like to go into the center
KatieParticipantAnita,
Yeah that makes sense. I guess the only way I’d be able to complain about guys not going after me is if I were single and showing 100% availability. I don’t know, I’m still insecure though.
KatieParticipantMark,
Yeah, it is going to be hard if my friends decide I am a bad person too, and ditch me as well. I am more worried about my friends ditching me than my boyfriend. I have a hunch that my friends are fake towards me and talk bad about me. I think that is part of what is motivating me though. The fact that I don’t trust my friends makes me want to reach out to people I do trust. And Gabi had always been that friend for me. I honestly see my friends (who ditched Gabi) as immature and small minded. They aren’t people I want to be around. Well, half of them ditched Gabi because she wasn’t that close with her but the other half was very immature and (maybe even wrong) to leave a friend over that reason. I think it was purely done out of judgement. Gabi had a very high moral understanding, something everyone else lacked. It isn’t that hard to see that Gabi IS a good person. Everyone else is just judging her, showing they really were never real friends in the first place. But I always saw Gabi as my true friend. And I know I need to stick by the real ones.
KatieParticipantBrandy,
It should have stayed between the 3 of them. I agree. But Gabi (probably not thinking and also in shock about the situation) told one of my friends who is a little immature about it. I think she told this friend because she needed somebody to confide in. But, this friend broke her trust and told EVERYONE about what happened.. causing her to lose all her friends. At the time, I did get the feeling that what this friend did was wrong, but was too caught up in wondering what, how, why, when, where. I was so confused. I couldn’t take it in, and the majority of our friends just decided then and there.. that she was a horrible person. As time goes on, I am realizing things. I don’t know how much I like/trust my friends that I have. Because friends are supposed to stick together through situations like this, not judge and ditch. I have been feeling really uneasy, I do not trust these people at all to be honest. I want new friends, and I miss Gabi
KatieParticipantAirene,
Bianca and Jared are still together. Everyone expected Bianca to break up with Jared, but she never did. People say she is a bad person, not only because of what she did, but also how she used to say things behind people’s backs. But I know Gabi is a good person, and it is very hard for me to believe she ever had bad intentions. In my opinion, I think people are twisting things she has said/done in a way to excuse dropping her.
I completely agree, I feel like everyone is being short sighted. I have also been feeling really down lately because I do not feel like I can trust the people I am around. I am not as close with them as I was with Gabi. It has caused me to feel really depressed. I feel like… if I ever made a mistake or did something wrong, then all my friends could drop me too..
KatieParticipantPoppyxo,
That’s really good advice. I try to break his habits by explaining that it is not okay, sometimes even telling him the relationship won’t work. He has changed a little bit. Unfortunately before he never wanted me to hang out with my friends while now he does. Obviously I am going to hang out with my friends regardless of what he says so I guess he just learned to stop being so controlling. I don’t know, things are a little better I guess. But that’s also really funny that you mentioned love languages. I just took that test yesterday and also got physical touch, while my boyfriend got acts of service. I used to see him asking me to do things for him as another sign of being controlling, but after taking this test I realize maybe that’s not the case. I would get annoyed when he’d ask me to do things for him and he’d get upset when I acted like I didn’t care to help him. I definitely understand now that that’s just how he needs me to show him I care. But while I understand now he needs me to show him I care by doing things for him, I still think his reaction to when I don’t do things was a little unhealthy. He used to get super angry when I wouldn’t do things (maybe to hide his hurt), but now he is more understanding for some reason. He doesn’t get as angry. Maybe he is beginning to understand that I still love him regardless.
KatieParticipantAnita,
Okay. I change my mind. I think it is because I am ugly. I mean, I don’t really know 100% but my mind keeps changing. Whenever I start feeling ugly I start blaming everything on it. But there is still a reason why I think it may have to do with the fact that I am ugly. Yes, outgoing people can be popular and well liked BUT I don’t find it a coincidence that all the popular girls in my school are pretty. Not one is ugly. Why?? I see outgoing girls who aren’t conventionally “pretty” (and may even be seen as ugly) and they’re just kinda disregarded… they have lots of friends (and I notice that the popular girls have lots of friends as well) yet for some reason they are separate from the popular girls. It’s like to be apart of their group you have to be pretty. It’s almost as if they are able to get along because of their looks and because of the amount of guys that go after them. I know looks aren’t everything but in my mind I’ve learned that no matter what I put my mind to.. I can do it. I’ve been able to accomplish anything I have wanted to by simply working hard for it. Yet, this will never seem to work out for me.
This is going to sound really superficial but let’s just say I was super beautiful and people always talked about how pretty I was. Something in me feels like if that were the case, all my problems would disappear. I’d be constantly getting positive feedback from people. People would always say “you’re so pretty” and I’d feel more accepted by my peers. More guys would go after me, which would leave me with infinite options. If I were the hottest girl in the world, I doubt my boyfriend would ever cheat on me because why would he go after an ugly girl if he is dating the hottest one? Now, I know personality plays a role BUT (and this is me sorta going off on a tangent but its important to how I feel right now) once my boyfriend and I went on a break for about 2 weeks and when we got back together I had found out he was trying to go after this model. Like, instead of worrying about getting me back he was too busy talking to/trying to win over this model. Let’s be real, I saw this girl and she had no special personality, especially not one that would attract my boyfriend to her. It was solely based off of her looks. Even AFTER we got back together he would still talk to her (sucky boyfriend, I know) and when I’d ask why he’d say “she’s a model!!” If I were prettier than this “s0-called” model then he should be satisfied enough with me. ALSO once my boyfriend was drunk and told me “I never get pretty girls” which was kinda a slap in the face.
And don’t get me wrong HOT, POPULAR guys have gone after me in the past but let me tell this story as well. So, I was a sophomore in high school and this SUPER POPULAR, ATTRACTIVE junior boy was going after me. I mean, we’re talking the hottest most popular guy in the junior grade. Girls literally swooned over him. Like, my friends would tell me that during lunch other girls would be like “oh my god he’s soooooo hot” (and these were the prettiest girls who were swooning over him). Well, low and behold he thought I was pretty (for some reason, don’t know why). He had no idea what my personality was like either, he just wanted me. But… it wasn’t just a “one time thing” like he actually wanted a relationship. He already knew he wanted a relationship based off of my looks. And how do I know this? Because I turned him down so many times but he kept persisting. After talking for a while, we even made out once but stopped because I said I was uncomfortable. I made it very loud and clear that I was not down to hook up and he said it was fine. So maybe secretly he did just want this to be a one time thing but I was very cautious to make sure that wasn’t the case, plus he had a good reputation of being a nice guy. Well, everyone in my grade thought it was so WEIRD that he wanted ME. They asked him why? My friend overheard this guy in the hallway say “Why does he want katie? He is so out of her league” Okay… my point is…. nobody would have said stuff like that if I were pretty. I don’t even think I’m ugly.. maybe I’d rate myself a 5/10. Average. Okay maybe 6/10 because of how much time and effort I put into making my hair and outfit and body look good. So my face could be seen as average. I don’t know. Why does this even matter to me? It makes me feel so inferior. I JUST WANT TO BE PRETTY. I have done amazing things by simply putting my mind to it. I promise you if I think about and act on something I want 24/7… I’m EVENTUALLY going to have to succeed. But this…. it’s almost like I will never be good enough with my looks. I DON’T EVEN CARE TO HAVE TONS OF FRIENDS. I’m fine having my 4 friends. But come on, it’s all I have wanted all my life. To be BEAUTIFUL and admired. But I’m not and don’t think I will ever be.
KatieParticipantInky,
Yeah people really made me feel horrible about it. They’d act like it was the worst thing I could have done to her and my friendship. If dating a friend’s brother really isn’t that bad, then I just assume the reason why everyone looked down upon me for it is because she went around telling people how horrible it was. She must’ve told everyone she thought it was so weird and wrong. Even though, she never said anything about it to me. And in the end, she ended up breaking up with my ex because she realized she didn’t even like him. So it’s not like she dated my ex because she REALLY couldn’t stay away from him and she really liked him (which I would have understood) but she didn’t even like him that much. So it just proves even more she clearly never liked me or cared for me that much as a friend. Again, I wasn’t even upset or angry about it, I just got the message about how she viewed our friendship.
And you’re right about how it is weird for a guy in college to be dating a girl in high school. We ended up breaking up for a little after he went off to college (this story was 2 years ago, I’m a senior in high school now while he’s a sophomore in college), but we got back together a little after. I’m just relieved to hear that I am not the horrible person everyone made me out to be and that it’s not wrong for me to dislike his sister because I really dislike the things she has said about me and I don’t trust her at all.
KatieParticipantAnita and Inky,
Sorry it took me so long to reply I just saw these responses. I wrote this when I was feeling really ugly and felt like it was the reason for all my problems in life. As time passes by, I realize now it is because I am simply just not outgoing.
It is actually a little funny that I am so shy, considering my younger brothers have so many friends. As they have gotten older, I have realized just how easily they are able to talk to people. Sometimes when I make a new friend and have them over, the person becomes closer with my brothers because of how outgoing and easy to talk to they are. I am grateful for the few friends I have. But the thing is I have spent years of my life wondering what is wrong with me. After seeing how my brothers are able to interact with others, I realize… maybe it’s not because I was cursed maybe it is because my personality is timid. It’s almost like a relief, like I have found the answer.
I think I may have social anxiety (or some form of it) which may cause me to be so timid? I think I have it because of this crazy intense feeling of fear I have whenever talking to people. It sucks. I’m so awkward because of it. I don’t have any desire to be “popular” or have tons of friends but I just want to be able to be happy in my skin, and talk to people around me. It’s really isolating and I don’t want to become lonely. I always wonder why I can’t break up with my boyfriend when our relationship is so bad, and I think 50% of the reason is because he is all that I have. I am afraid I will be left with nobody if I lose him because of my inability to make friends. Does this sound like social anxiety to you?
KatieParticipantAmy,
Wow, everything you said really seems to be true. I am going to try to do those things I really hope it works because what I feel right now is horrible
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