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HelcatParticipant
Hi Carol
It’s good to hear that your friend texted you. 😊
And good to hear that she did provide some support, even though in some cases it was delayed.
I’m sorry to hear about your sister. That is really tough. I’m glad that your friend replied immediately to you when it was a crisis.
I hope that you have a lovely day!
Love and best wishes! ❤️🙏
HelcatParticipantHi Chau / Clara
I think it’s really great that you are putting in the work on figuring things out during the break.
You have been feeling a lot recently, including anger. Anger is an emotion with a purpose. It lets you know when you have unmet needs or when boundaries have been crossed. When you understand the reason it is easier to let go because you can address it.
I would agree in some cases about people falling out of love when they are hurt. The days where I fell out of love, I felt deeply hurt by my partner. I was doubting the relationship.
Yes, it is not helpful for you to have to be the one to notice when something is wrong. She needs to communicate more openly and tell you.
Does your partner share her emotions with you? It is good for people to support each other, as well as taking responsibility for our own emotions.
Yes, relationships do take a lot of work and compromise. Even good relationships.
I hope it is okay if I share with you some things that my partner and I learned in couples counselling.
Check in with each other and ask how was your day every day, at a particular time can be helpful.
Keep difficult conversations to 30 minutes. Set a timer.
During difficult conversations take turns to talk for 5 minutes each, the other person is not allowed to speak during your time. A timer is helpful here too.
Taking a break when difficult converstions get too much can be helpful. Some people like to use a funny code word for that. Lollipop for example.
This is something that we noticed. When there relationship problems talking about it all of the time is stressful and wears on the relationship. Nothing ever cools down or feels normal. So we made a rule to only discuss relationship problems once a week for 30 minutes. After a meal. Judges often make better decisions sentencing after a meal.
This involved planning what to talk about and doing it piece by piece because there isn’t a huge amount of time for discussion. It gave us a sense of normalcy in the relationship back and taught us to defer talking about problems until we’d cooled down and given it some thought.
Love and best wishes! ❤️🙏
HelcatParticipantHi Chau / Clara
I think that you have a really great perspective. It takes a lot of honesty and courage to work on oneself. I think it’s also important to treat yourself with love during that process. There are reasons why patterns exist. People learned it from somewhere.
I agree, it does take courage to give a relationship where there have been difficulties a chance because vulnerablity is hard. I think that has been a problem for me. Being vulnerable during disagreements. It is much easier to communicate with someone when they are being vulnerable and vice versa much easier to be defensive if someone else is already defensive.
I think this is also why forgiveness is important. It is hard not to be defensive when all of the past hurt is being carried into the present. Sometimes the past hurt isn’t even the person in front of you, but also memories of other difficult relationships.
I wish you both good luck with everything, I hope that you have a nice evening too!
Love and best wishes! ❤️😊
HelcatParticipantUltimately, you can have the relationship or cling to hurt feelings. Both cannot exist at the same time. One or the other. And both people need to make this choice.
HelcatParticipantHi Chau
So you were the one that suggested the break and there has been a couple of months of negativity, perhaps on both sides? And there have been difficulties in the relationship of you blaming her and her feeling like she needs to tip toe around you.
I’m hesitant to place all of the blame on one person. It is good to recognize your own issues. But perhaps your partner is also contributing to this in some way? Usually it is two people, not just one.
I’m going to share how I got past difficulties with my partner recently. I hope that in some small way it helps, but I don’t know if it will.
My partner said some very harsh things because we were having difficulties. For two weeks I took it out on then because I was angry that they had said those harsh things. They said some more very harsh things, suggesting that the relationship might need to end because they couldn’t cope with me being angry.
To move forward, I needed to forgive my partner for the harsh things they said and act normally in the relationship.
They needed to work on their own stuff and forgive me for their own resentment too.
What I have learned of disagreements is that they are all about ego. Focusing only on how we feel and our worries. It is not to help the relationship. It is a game of scoring points almost that soothes the ego. You can win an argument but it tends to harm the relationship. Every time it is saying that the argument is more important than the relationship. If you want to fix a relationship, you have to choose the relationship over the disagreement.
Difficulties can improve communication in a relationship when you don’t blame each other and admit your own faults and apologize for them. The goal is to work hard to stop making the same mistakes.
People make mistakes. Everyone does. Focus on fixing your own mistakes. And accepting your partners mistakes as part of who they are. We all have our own pattern. Our own mistakes. But it is the whole that makes us so special and lovable. You clearly love your partner. Accepting the mistakes along with the person is worth it and when there is no blame and forgiveness the defensiveness goes away.
Validating each others feelings is very important especially when hurt.
I feel hurt. I’m sorry that you feel hurt, and for my part in hurting you.
Love and best wishes! ❤️🙏
HelcatParticipantHi Carol
I’m sorry to hear that you have lost touch with your best friend of 15 years after she got a partner.
Change is difficult and people get lost in their own lives. A lot of people choose to build their whole life around their partner with little room for others. It sounds like this is what has happened. It must be a jarring experience being so close to your friend and now, not so close.
I’m sorry to hear that she wasn’t there for you when you were struggling. You mentioned that it sounds like she has been struggling with her own things too.
I wouldn’t necessarily call you both acquaintances because of the very long and close friendship.
There are times in life when very close friends are not as close sadly. Life can get in the way and there is only room for so many people. It is a shame that in this relationship she neglected you, her best friend. One day she might realize her mistake.
I think that your message is perfect. Good luck!
Love and best wishes! ❤️🙏
HelcatParticipantHi Chau
Disappointed, insecure, sad, rejected, grieving, irritated, angry, helpless and lonely. Those are a lot of very understandable feelings because it is such a complicated and challenging time. It must be an intense time for you. It is very big of you to try to stay positive and even consider accepting a continuation of this relationship after these difficulties.
I’m sorry to hear that your partner has hidden the relationship from family (except for one sibling) for 5 and a half years.
You are also concerned that this time is being used to break up. To me, that is a valid concern. Your partner has chosen a rather brutal way to make her decision. What did she say when you asked her about that?
I have a couple of concerns about this situation too. 1) I feel like it is unfairly harsh on you. You are expected to patiently wait around while going through a lot of suffering. 2) I’m not sure about cultural stance regarding being gay or even modern dating practices. In some countries it is illegal and this makes the lives of gay people very difficult, in other countries it is not illegal. In some countries people use breaks to see other people. Was this discussed?
If you think taking the chance that your partner will change her mind is worth the pain of being left on the hook is worth it. That is your decision.
It seems to me that you have already been on the hook waiting for 5 and a half years. You deserve to be with someone who loves you for you and at least acknowledges your presence to people that they are close with.
I think that love is a choice. There have been days where I have fallen out of love when things were difficult. But the choice is made to reconnect and fall in love with a partner, or not. The choice to love someone or not is made every day.
Love and best wishes! ❤️🙏
HelcatParticipantHi Chau
That sounds difficult dealing with this month long break. And hearing a long term partner decide whether they want to be with you in the future, not to mention asking you to move out. You are going through a lot right now.
No wonder if you are feeling things about the situation. Would you like to talk about how you feel about the situation?
Love and best wishes! ❤️🙏
HelcatParticipantHi Mr A
Talking about how you feel about difficulties can be helpful when you are not blaming your wife for it. It is a very hard thing for a couple to go through. Some people have children very easily. Some children are unwanted and treat cruelly. It is a painful and unfair situation that you both find yourselves in.
That is a good summary of points discussed. I would add that it could be a good idea to find something to enjoy about the relationship. For your own happiness, as well as hers.
Yes, definitely. You only have control over so much. Do what you can and take pride in that you tried your best.
Despite the difficulties between you, I think your willingness to stick by your wife and taking care of her as best you can is a kindness on your part.
Wishing you all the best! ❤️🙏
HelcatParticipantHi Mr A
I’m glad that you are offering her as much help as she wants. That is very kind of you. It sounds like she has made up her mind that she doesn’t want to work on her weight. There is nothing that you can do to change her mind if this is the case.
Acknowledging that her wishes, desires and responsibilities are not yours is one way to see the situation.
Imagine two people living together, one messy, one neat. The neat person gets upset by all of the mess. The messy person doesn’t notice the mess. The messy person is upset by the neat person being mad at them.
The only way for everyone to be happy is for the neat person to only focus on what they wish to do for themselves. To make themselves happy. People just have different standards, different desires and different motivations.
Your wife is an entirely separate and uniquely different person to you.
To have discipline, motivation is needed. To have motivation it helps a lot if you are unhappy on some level.
It sounds like food offers her a sense of comfort, a temporary happiness if you will.
She is in a desperately unhappy situation. Failed pregnancies and a husband who seems to actively dislike her.
Can you change that you dislike your wife? Do you want to? Tommy had some really good advice.
I don’t know if she was ever pregnant. But losing a pregnancy means a lot more to women. There is a physical connection very early. It is not just an idea of a future child. There is a lot of grief and sorrow losing a baby. It often ends relationships.
Your wife may need therapy to work though various things that may be upsetting her.
Your wife may be unwilling to give up the only nice thing that you think about her. At least she cooks and cleans and works. She may not prioritise anything else while your opinion of her life is so low.
Wishing you all the best! ❤️🙏
HelcatParticipantMr A
Your wife is a person, not a thing to be moulded to your liking.
It doesn’t surprise me that your wife does all of the cooking and housework as well as working. No wonder she is exhausted. If you want her to have more energy, get a maid to help her since you have the money. There will be a whole host of benefits when she has more time and energy.
Intelligence is nothing without kindness. Where is your kindness towards your wife? The one who should be most precious to you?
You think she is ugly and poor and stupid. That says it all.
Wishing you all the best! ❤️🙏
HelcatParticipantYour feelings are not less important than theirs. You have a duty to yourself, to take care of yourself and protect yourself from an abusive situation. You shouldn’t have to suffer, to make someone else happy.
HelcatParticipantHi Teni
Unfortunately, threatening to kill themselves if you break up with them is called emotional abuse. Controlling when you sleep is also abusive. As is getting mad etc if you don’t reply to texts while you’re asleep.
No contact after a break up can be a good idea to avoid being guilted into returning.
I think that you’ve said it all when you said that you want to end the relationship. Have they previously attempted suicide or self-harmed?
It isn’t your responsibility if someone hurts themselves. They are responsible for their own actions and choices. If they have difficulties with their emotions they can see a doctor. Help is out there, it doesn’t have to be you that helps them.
It sounds like to me these things are being said to prevent you from leaving. I had an ex that tried that. Blocking hin everywhere was very helpful after the break up. He didn’t kill himself.
Love and best wishes! ❤️🙏
HelcatParticipantHi Rosie
Thanks for your kindness! And thanks as well for the information about metacognition. I will definitely have a look online and learn more about it.
Love and best wishes! ❤️🙏
HelcatParticipantMy understanding of the heart sutra is that it is an escoteric description of the deep meditation practice mentioned. It reminds me of a stillness meditation that I practice.
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