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    Thank you Anita for your always genuine amazing advice. I definitely agree with you that I have to learn that I’m never going to be “safe”, it is something I struggle with having anxiety and all. I want to ask you how you feel about this situation.

     

    So the other day my boyfriend and I were talking about how or phones had gotten stolen multiple times in our life. I told him oh remember when yours got stolen that night at college (while we were broken up that time with the girl) and he goes my phone never got stolen? Just my wallet and my keys that night. He went to sleep. I panicked and panicked omg why did he lie WHERE was he, WHO was he with, if he had his phone…. he could’ve been anywhere. At the time we shared locations and his was off because his phone was off. The thing is I remember at this time that he sent me a police report stating how they had found an iPhone wallet and keys, so I knew he must have forgot. But then it went to…. HE said HE slept at home, but how if he didn’t have his keys? Panicked. I woke him up at 6am saying I’m sorry but are you sure you slept at home if you didn’t have your keys and he’s like idk I probably slept on the couch that was so long ago and I was so drunk that night I don’t know. Then… 5 minutes later he goes ACTUALLY I slept outside of Starbucks on campus I didn’t want to tell you because it’s so embarrassing and I didn’t want you telling anyone.

    I know this makes sense because his belongings were found on campus and he said he lost it walking super drunk and he got frustrated because he didn’t know where he was and he just sat down and fell asleep.

    But I’m just so annoyed that I didn’t know this before… I know I’ve asked about that night before maybe not in a really really long time but I definitely did. Do you think he has like a lying issue??? Is this even something serious??? Why do I feel like I have the need to know everything about my boyfriend. Like if I don’t know something it’s considered hiding. Like at the time we weren’t together it was so stupid and irrelevant with everything else’s going on I’m sure he didn’t care about it but why does it bother me so much that he kept this from me…

    Danielle
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    Anita,

    I wanted to talk to you today after my session today where we really focused on my boyfriend. My therapist has come to the conclusion obviously that the content of my obsessions isn’t what is important (my obsessions regarding my relationship) its what the obsessions make me feel. That the problem in my relationship isn’t my boyfriend its me (much like you said multiple times). Now she mentioned that she things a big issue regarding my relationship is that I don’t feel safe because of the past we had. She believes my obsessions are because I am scared to be happy and hurt. It is easier for me to hurt myself, than for someone else to hurt me because I still am in control. Since in the beginning of the relationship I had no security because there were secrets being kept and we would break up very often, its hard for me to find a sense of security in a changed man. I know my boyfriend now wouldn’t do anything he did in the past as he to me he finally had a revelation of our relationship and loves me more than ever and we communicate very well now and were headed in the most amazing direction.

    My question is Anita, will this sense of security ever come back? I mean I can only assume if were not breaking up at all in the next year (haven’t in the last 8 months, longest we ever haven’t) and were being open and honest and the trust is getting rebuilt, I find myself being able to eventually feel VERY secure after our relationship is stable and consistent for a long period of time.

    Now next session, were going to focus on my safety insecurity. The need to always be in control and not trust others. There have been times in my life where I haven’t felt safe. Growing up in a physically abusive home until I was 4 might just be enough.. or maybe after the movie I watched how I just didn’t feel “safe” with older men because of it, so I chose to avoid all of them. I know if I don’t fix this issue, I am never going to be able to have a relationship with anyone. Please give your input you are always so wise! Thank you! 🙂

    Danielle
    Participant

    Anita,

    I wanted to come and write to you because I have been in therapy for 3 weeks now. I think the first 3 sessions the therapist is just trying to get to know me, my anxieties, my thoughts, my obsessions, etc. Last week (and the first week) I talked to her about my previous ocd obsessions as a child (the ones caused by the movie, the ones about me being afraid of older men etc). Today I broke the news to her about the animal incident. She didn’t seemed phased by it and she actually made me feel very comfortable about it and really enlightened me on how this is something I really shouldn’t be driving myself crazy over. But this is where it got me (and she said we will talk next time on it, but I don’t know if i can wait a whole week without understanding a little bit more of it and I was wondering if you had any insight because I cannot figure it out myself).

    She said there is a reason that I am letting these two things bother me. A deeper issue. She also mentioned how both of these have to do with sexuality and that maybe something is wrong there, maybe there is a deeper understanding. THAT is where I freaked out. I kept thinking to myself the past 2 hours, what is wrong with me sexually? Am I not interested in men… and it went from there and now I am semi-panicking. I even asked her omg is that what you mean, and she said noo not at all. But I can’t seem to stop thinking WHAT she means by that. I know both obsessions have to do with sexual things, but do you think there is a connection between them…. I am so confused and I hate that we ran out of time in the middle of that conversation. I am going out of town this weekend and I want to enjoy my weekend and not be thinking about what sexuality problems I might have… I told her I am very comfortable with my sexuality and it is something I have never struggled with. I have a great intimacy life with my boyfriend.

    Can you maybe just help me understand what she might have meant by that? It would mean the world if I can get a knowledgable persons opinion on her choice of words.

    thank you always.

    Danielle
    Participant

    Anita,

    Yes I am very excited and hope I can put this all to rest. The way I think about it is, its me. These feelings are because I am doing this to myself, nothing he is doing. If it wasn’t because of this, it would be something else. I freak out now that I want to break up with him thinking that would relief this anxiety… but the truth is, then I would just be anxious that I broke up with him. And I would start obsessing about something else. I think I just need to get to the point where I realize this is an issue between me myself and I. And I need to work on fixing myself, and once I am anxiety free/in a better place mentally and I have a clear view that I WANT to break up, then maybe I will. But right now I think I am looking for ways that I can end my own anxiety and my brain tells me oh maybe breaking up will cause safety and take me away from this constant “fight or flight” response. I hope going to therapy we can work on the ways I can get some clarity. I also tell myself, if I knew the right thing to do was break up I would’ve done it by now and not have gotten this anxious and depressed thinking about it, but its because I know its not what I want to do that I get like this. Kinda like if someone has OCD thoughts to do bad things, they get anxious about it and give it attention because its NOT what they want to do. I find thinking back to my childhood with that incident with the film, I was looking for ways to relieve the anxiety and thought maybe lying about it would relieve it all, but in reality, if I lied, I would just get anxious about something else and it would be a never ending problem, I had to get to the root of the problem, which now I think… I actually have no idea what the root of the problem might me. Idk if its because this is the first time I have loved someone so much, had to put my entire trust into someone, idk if its just something simple and I am like this because ultimately I am picking my life partner….which is one of the biggest decisions we as humans have to make. I think its just all fear and uncertainty that is driving me to the edge.

    Danielle
    Participant

    anita it’s funny because my grandma told me he should’ve never told me either, that he was so stupid to do so.

    Danielle
    Participant

    Anita, I do very much agree that it’s not fair to him. But ultimately this is because of what he did so I can’t blame myself 100%, he has to deal with the issues he caused because of broken trust. I am happy to tell you that I made an appointment to see a therapist this Wednesday at noon! So hopefully we can figure out how to stop this.

    Inky, I’ve known about this for a couple of months. At first I was shocked, then I accepted. I understood the situation, him, etc. Suddenly, I came back home for the summer and my anxiety has gotten a lot worse. It started one day when I found myself wanting to just flirt with a guy (again nothing wrong but my ocd and anxiety made me really overthink this) I talked to my boyfriend we were fine, but this is when I started I guess you can say a relationship OCD. I started constantly making sure I loved him, constantly googling, constantly asking myself do I care? Am I convincing myself, am I faking my feelings, do I deserve someone that was perfect from the beginning? That’s what consumes my mind constantly. Of course some times we have good days but I haven’t been too busy so I’ve been letting my mind really have all the time in the world to think and overthink.

    This is my main problem, my mind tells me all these things, my fears tell me all these things, but they make me SICK to my stomach. I don’t want to leave my boyfriend, I love him. And truly I don’t think anyone is as good as him. Everyone is consntsly saying I need to find someone that loves me as much as he loves you. Everyone loves us, knowing what he did not one person has ever judged me they all have told me to stay and understand the situation (like Anita is saying it as), my own family has even told me that I shouldn’t leave over that etc. so when 50 people are pointing in one direction and everyone is seeing the light and truth to the entire situation and sees my boyfriend first hand with me, it’s hard for me to agree with you both and say ok leave him when I don’t want to… and no one ever tells me to, advises me to. It’s not that my boyfriend is perfect on paper, he is perfect to me in everyone’s eyes, even my own mother who knows every single detail of our relationship when it was down.

    I think I have just had these OCD thoughts and tendencies for so long but never about something I CARE so much about that my brain is really struggling to make sense. Usually I get anxiety about everything that didn’t happen or might happen… not a relationship. I have never felt this way towards him, even when I found out!! I still loved him so much and we moved forward. I’m just in a RUT. And I don’t want to listen to my gut that’s based off all of fear and obsessive thoughts. I can tell myself if I were to end it with my boyfriend over my anxiety and feelings of distress, that would be the worst decision of my life. Because again, anxiety doesn’t last forever,  but me losing him maybe moving on… all that lasts forever. I want him by my side for life, and I’m actually sorry that I’m putting him through this because I can’t figure out my emotions.

    Danielle
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    Hi again everyone, thanks for taking your time to respond.

    Anita, I know you’ve been through this with me from day one and you know much backside to the story and that’s why your answer is different than anyone else’s because you understand and see where it is stemming from. I really do think all I have left to try is therapy because I really don’t want to lose him.

    Inky and Eliana, I see where you both are coming from. I, a sufferer of anxiety and OCD since a young age, tend to really never know what’s my gut and what’s my fear. So it’s hard to say that I’m feeling this way because of a gut feeling. I would have to throw in that right now, I do trust him. I have no doubt in my mind he’s not doing something. He is seriously a changed man, we have talked many times about the incident. He answers everything I need. Tells me that with his past girlfriends things just didn’t work and he was never in love and when they broke up he just didn’t care and would move on. So when I broke up with him he was devestated and just saw it as another relationship that didn’t work. He says very confidently that he would NEVER do that now and I am so so so positive he wouldn’t. We weren’t only dating for 4 months before he did this and he was 19, NEW to college, just thinking whatever. He says his mind has changed, going through all of this has made him realize that you know what idc if I’m missing out in college life, she’s the love of my life and I will sacrifice that for her.

    Ofcourse it’s not easy, and OFCOURSE I have anxiety about it all or I wouldn’t be here. But I really don’t know if I should break up with someone because of how they were, if I should break up with the guy that I can see myself marrying and having kids with if I can get past this stupid mistake. Do you think in 4 years if our relationship stays this good, that I’m going to even give relevance to the fact that when we were dating for 4 months and we broke up that he slept with an old fling? Like is that going to matter? It wasn’t a random girl, he didn’t even try, he went to a party she was all over him he was drinking I had just kicked him out of my apartment and he said he just said “f it”. He regretted it immediately came running home to me, has had her blocked on everything since THAT day, I just don’t know what I’m feeling, and if this situation is actually worth a break up or worth me fixing.

     

    Danielle
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    I couldn’t agree more with you Anita.

    Tell me what you think about this. I think in the back of my head the problem I am having is that I am pretty sure it is illegal. So I’m thinking I deserve some type of punishment. But it is known that children don’t go to jail…. unless it is something insane like murder and sometimes even then they don’t. Do you think the reason children can’t be tried as adults is because of this innocence? This belief that they aren’t fully developed to know what they did was so wrong and to fully understand the consequences of it? I know what I did was only done at the young age of 14… i HAD no idea. How can I explain this to myself? So I can stop thinking I deserve this horrible punishment. I think that’s a really big reason subconsciously that i don’t allow myself to be happy. How can I rid of this?

    Danielle
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    Anita,

    Thank you once again for always taking time out of your day to help me.

    I absolutely didn’t think that yesterday was going to trigger me because we have gone to lunch before spent the day together etc, but you are absolutely right. Its the fact that I am lying about what I was actually doing with my step dad, which was my worst nightmare as a child. So I feel calm knowing yes I am experiencing anxiety, yes I know why, and yes it is understandable. So I just have to let that pass and act as normal as I can to let myself know that I am not going to let this trigger me and put me down for weeks. What happens is since all my old emotions came flooding in last night, they started flooding in about everything I have ever been anxious about in my lifetime.

    And I remember the day I found out what I was doing was wrong, it was the worst 2 months of my life after that. I was so young and my OCD was SO strong and I remember thinking omg God wants me to die for doing that I should turn myself into the police, I avoided anything remotely sexual for a VERY long time, didn’t even want to talk to boys not even a simple kiss because I felt that I did not deserve to show any love in that way. It was a nightmare. So whenever I think about that incident when I was 14, it was the worst mistake of my life and the hardest thing I have ever had to go through personally because it wasn’t a thought it was FACT. Its crazy how when you’re a kid you really don’t know what you’re doing and grown ups were always right when they said you didn’t. That was the hardest lesson of my entire life and I think I am going to punish myself over it forever because as much as I say its common I am not the only one, that wasn’t me, that was young immature naive unknowing me, its still so hurtful that I would ever do something unmoral in my own eyes.

    I completely agree that it is so uncomfortable, I would think you’re crazy if you said it was fine and comfortable because it is not! As many times as my OCD tries to convince me “omg you must like animals” “omg you’re a crazy person” “omg you should be in jail” I try to tell myself constantly that if I was any of those things, I wouldn’t have cared, I wouldn’t have panicked for months, I wouldn’t feel so guilty and horrible, I wouldn’t have stopped because it was what I wanted. BUT IT WAS NOT. Ever since that day I have never never never again or even been close to it, NOTHING. I don’t even like my dog sleeping under the covers because I am traumatized and think what if she does it herself. I want to make sure nothing like that even happens by MISTAKE. I know its not who I am and I shouldn’t let a decision made 7 years ago as a child effect me because its not who I am, it never was, its like you said sexual desires by all kids are so strong because its when we are becoming aware, and that is just part of being a human and I couldn’t control it. Another thing is as kids you know were always taught never touch anyone and never let anyone touch you, but no one ever teaches us that was wrong I just thought it was weird and unheard of, so I went in innocent minded and thats the only reason I let it happen, I try to remind myself about that too when reading the other posts in the other thread involving actual children siblings etc, I was never TAUGHT that specifically what I did was wrong obviously so I have to also tell myself that, I am not a bad person, I just didn’t know it was bad at the time because I was naive and innocent minded like all children.

    Danielle
    Participant

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    Danielle
    Participant

    Good morning Anita,

    had a pretty tough night last night I think because I was so anxious what you were going to write in the other thread I posted in. Do you have any insight on that? I think your advice on there was amazing and said a lot of what I usually tell myself, you were a child, curious, unaware of what your actions would do to you in the future, 35,z but what scared me was when you said the person is deplorable if they make a mistake more than once, and that’s what I did. I made the mistake several times because I AT the time didn’t know it was wrong I thought it was just strange or I actually didn’t even put much attention to it until I got a little older like most kids. I always say I forgive myself but I don’t think I have. I know you’ve written to be so many times on here wondering what it is why I can’t let myself HAPPY do you think this has something to do with it? Also I’m going to tell you what happened to me yesterday and would appreciate ABY advice you can give me as it took me spiraling down.

    My step dad and I spent all day together yesterday alone something we haven’t done in a while. We had the entire day planned to go pick out a new ring for my mom together and eat lunch and that’s what we did. While I was there I was having fun loved looking at rings I was perfectly comfortable etc. occasionally thoughts from my childhood worries would come like “omg imagine he just touched me right now or says something inappropriate or weird and ruins my whole life etc.” remember how this was my biggest scare after watching that movie. But I would ignore the thoughts and still enjoyed the day. And then when I got home the anxiety came flooding in. Idk if it was because I wasn’t able to tell my mom where we were and I was scared she would suspect something weird since we had “lunch” for four hours (becusse she didn’t know about the ring and I can’t tell her) or idk if I was scared she was going to ask me what’s wrong or if I looked weird or something and I was going to have a panic attack because I know my OCD would be like omg lie to her tell her he tried something tell her this etc (childhood again), but pretty much yesterday was NOT a good day for me and I really don’t want to ruin my summer and go into a big slump because of this. I am getting a dog next week and I am so excited and I really just want my OCD to stop ruining my happy days.

    If you could please give me some advice on both of these topics I think it would make my entire weekend maybe put me at ease put things into perspective. Because right now I’m thinking I’m some crazy person who was screwed up as a kid and now is still screwed up as an adult for thinking all these weird things. I just want to forgive myself for my previous stupid mistakes and I want a relationship with my dad that doesn’t have these ridiculous thoughts.

    Thank you always.

    Danielle
    Participant

    Anita,

    I guess I can understand how that can be a possibility of what is happening but I just can’t pinpoint it. I remember when I was young I would wake up in the middle of the night, or early in the morning and “check” if that OCD was still there. I find myself doing that the last couple of days. He will send me a text and I’ll react, something nice and my brain tells me “eww” or “ugh annoying” or “you don’t feel the same way back”, I’ve been doing the opposite of what my brain tells me and I still continue to show love, affection, and pretend like I am feeling the same way I have always felt to let my OCD ITS not going to win this. I guess I have pretty catastrophic thinking, and I tell myself constantly you’re going to break his heart you’re going to leave him, and I Panic.

    Im having just a difficult time feeling this way because this has never happened in our relationship before. I know OCD only targets things that matter, and honestly of exactly 2 years of being together, besides the first 4, these last 6 months have been the best we have ever been and the only time I can actually say I really might marry this guy. Maybe my OCD is targeting him because it’s realizing how much I love him now and how he’s changed completely for me. Before, there was no time for OCD because something was always wrong in our relationship, but now that is has the ability to blossom and really turn into something huge, I am panicking. I read many posts online & they state “if you didn’t love him, you wouldn’t have OCD towards him”, and I try to think this is true and show myself that I really do love him.

    I also feel like I make it seem like the end of the world, like okay let’s say my OCD drives me to break up with him out of impulse and a compulsion, the very next day I know I would go back and he would understand and I will realize fast what I want. Just like my childhood when I was always wanting to make up a lie and scared I would tell that lie and ruin someone’s entire life (saying someone hurt me), when in reality if I did I could easily say 5 seconds later I was lying, my OCD freaked me out and made me do that, etc. I tend to think that acting on my OCD in these situations is life or death.

    I don’t even crave being alone… yes i love spending time with my friends but it’s not something I would rather do all the time and be single. Another thing you could put into consideration is that where we live, I feel that he is my only best friend. I have plenty of friends there, but really he’s the only one I care to spend time with. Here where we live in the summer, I have my parents, my family, my 2 bestfriends, and just more people. Do you think that my mind is tricking me into thinking I don’t need him becusse I have all these other people? Or that because I am spending time with all these people and I’m fine with not being with him, I don’t love him. I really think my mind is playing tricks on me and I just want to get to the bottom of WHY his HAPPENING now coming home for summer, what caused it, and what I can tell myself is the reason for my feelings/thoughts.

    Danielle
    Participant

    Hey Anita!

    Jusr wanted to write back since I came back from  Mexico. The trip was amazing. I found myself many times in my head and thinking “am I faking this” “do I really love him” but I would never panic over the thoughts. When we got back from the trip, I find that it really went down. The like almost like the anxiety PURPOSEFULLY happened to see if I would have a bad time or if I was control and was not going to let it affect me. I also think the days together (7) made me comfortable again and I was sure of my relationship and really felt that love again. Now it’s been 2 days that I haven’t seen him and my anxiety I feel is back again….

    it is so annoying because I think the root of the problem is that since I am with him every single day in college, I feel that this change (not seeing him everyday) is making me seem that I am not interested or in love anymore since I find myself fine being independent. How do you think I can overcome this? He writes me such nice messages and I can’t help but feel guilty feeling this way and constantly questioning my own feelings.

    I have been waiting my entire relationship to be HOW is now… and now that he’s everything I ever wanted him to be it’s like I don’t want it anymore. That’s what my mind is telling me. Do you think I am just scared that since he is so perfect and I actually am probably the most in love I’ve ever been with him, I’m scared. Scared to accept him, scared to fall so hard, scared that I really might marry him and that I’ve finally gotten my dream guy. He is so amazing I can’t express it. And it sucks that I have these thoughts. I feel they only happen when I’m alone/without him. Like last night I freaked out over our past and got so mad again. And he helped me and answered everything I needed and we moved on from it.

    I really just want some clarification from your point of view on why I’m feeling this way. Do you think it’s comethjng deeper? Do you think I really just want to be alone? Idk how to feel and I can’t express why I feel this way… and it’s horrible because it’s the happiest we have ever been and I want to enjoy the present and focus on this amazing relationship we have right now.

    Thank you so much for your responses and really always helping me understand myself better than I can on my own. Hope to hear from you soon.

    Danielle
    Participant

    I am copying that last message again because on several platforms it’s not showing that I wrote it and it says you were the last one to write a response 9 hours ago and I wasn’t. So my last message again:

    “I can totally see how telling him was not the right decision. Now he might be insecure and now I might obsess that he thinks I want to break up and it’ll probably have a bigger impact on me than him. I just felt guilty not telling him. I felt guilty that I was thinking this and I almost just anted him to tell me yes sometimes I do want other girls to find me attractive and I thought I would feel better (temporary relief) but instead he told me everything I didn’t want to hear “I don’t do that, I only like to look good for you, I like being told we’re a good looking couple that’s why I like to look good, are you too good for me? ;9 you want to be single? And it KILLED ME. I told him I no longer wanted to talk about it because it increased my anxiety and I made it a real life issue and not an issue in my head like before.

    About the childhood thing… a moment specifically doesn’t come to mind but I’m sure there are some stuff there? It’s just so weird it’s always happened to me. I remember I got a really nice car as my first car and the entire time I couldn’t be happy about it I was like did my parents really want to get me this? Do I deserve this? Do they have this kind of money? I never can ENJOY something without thinking bad about it. So I know I’m going to Mexico and I just want to have a good time and I was excited for so long and now I’m like what if I ruin it what if I have an anxiety attack what if my OCD ruins the whole trip and I can’t control it what if I act on my OCD and break up with him. What if I can’t have a good time because I’m so stuck in my headS I notice this every time I go somewhere exciting. I can say that my OCD random attacks as a young kid really did ruin HAPPY moments in my life transferring to a new school, summer vacation, etc. so I can see that I was excited about all of those things and my OCD ruined it for me . Getting a car, a dog, school, everything.

     

    Danielle
    Participant

    I can totally see how telling him was not the right decision. Now he might be insecure and now I might obsess that he thinks I want to break up and it’ll probably have a bigger impact on me than him. I just felt guilty not telling him. I felt guilty that I was thinking this and I almost just anted him to tell me yes sometimes I do want other girls to find me attractive and I thought I would feel better (temporary relief) but instead he told me everything I didn’t want to hear “I don’t do that, I only like to look good for you, I like being told we’re a good looking couple that’s why I like to look good, are you too good for me? ;9 you want to be single? And it KILLED ME. I told him I no longer wanted to talk about it because it increased my anxiety and I made it a real life issue and not an issue in my head like before.

    About the childhood thing… a moment specifically doesn’t come to mind but I’m sure there are some stuff there? It’s just so weird it’s always happened to me. I remember I got a really nice car as my first car and the entire time I couldn’t be happy about it I was like did my parents really want to get me this? Do I deserve this? Do they have this kind of money? I never can ENJOY something without thinking bad about it. So I know I’m going to Mexico and I just want to have a good time and I was excited for so long and now I’m like what if I ruin it what if I have an anxiety attack what if my OCD ruins the whole trip and I can’t control it what if I act on my OCD and break up with him. What if I can’t have a good time because I’m so stuck in my headS I notice this every time I go somewhere exciting. I can say that my OCD random attacks as a young kid really did ruin HAPPY moments in my life transferring to a new school, summer vacation, etc. so I can see that I was excited about all of those things and my OCD ruined it for me . Getting a car, a dog, school, everything.

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