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MattParticipant
Meagan,
I’m sorry for all of the pain and suffering you’re enduring. Letting go of resentment is a difficult and noble aim, and it takes a powerful heart to even approach it. A few things came to heart as I read your words.
Consider that forgiving your sisters and mother has nothing to do with them. There is a part of Meagan that is still bound up, suffering because of the past. Often we think that to forgive others is somehow releasing them from their actions, that holding on will somehow, someday bring justice to the injustice. This is not the case. When we hang on to resentment, its like we’re capturing a little piece of our joy and pushing it away from us. As our mind pulls in the memories, all the painful emotions come with them. Letting go allows us to remember (like we could forget!) without those painful feelings.
The reason its important to see that is because the path of letting go is about accepting the actions of others. Consider that a mother’s connection to her children is powerful… naturally, biologically, physiologically. Consider how an equally powerful force of suffering must have been inside her for her to abandon her children, steal your family’s money, and then lash out at you. Who the heck does that?!? Someone in the grip of powerful suffering. Not that it is an “excuse”, but it just “is”.
Now consider that her suffering pushed her to act like an ass, and as you saw her actions, you made them about you. This is normal, usual. Buddha taught that we don’t have to. If you can just see that mom acted selfishly because of her suffering, it is enough to be free. Because what you can also see from that viewpoint is that in acting the way she did, she passed to you a gift of painful feelings that you still have. Its like her wound, which caused her to act very unmotherly, is now stuck in your heart and mind, causing you to act unskillfully. Said differently, its like a game of hot potato… and right now you have the potato in your hand, and are looking for a way to set it down. And that’s exactly what you’re doing. Mom may or may not change, sisters may or may not change, so we cannot give them the keys to our joy by wishing they would change.
Instead, we take a radical approach. We dig our heels into the heart, take a stand, and set down the hot potato. This is done by giving our loving kindness to them in our mind. “Mother, sisters, may you find peace, joy and happiness. May no harm come to you.” We do it as sincerely as we can, and over and over. This frees our mind from its resentment and pain. We don’t do it for them, we do it to recover Meagan’s joy. Let them suffer as they will until they figure out how to act lovingly, that is their burden, their karma. Ours is to love unconditionally, so we can be free. Its OK for you to grit your teeth and feel like you want to kick and lash, that’s normal. But, keep saying it… keep trying to give them the warmth inside… remember that it is not for them, its to reclaim your warm feelings. Here is a guided meditation that can help:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M1hP4RfS-c
After all, haven’t you suffered enough from her actions? Isn’t it time you were free? I think so, and believe in your heart. I don’t say this as a dreamer, offering some goody goody advice to make the world a loving place. I’ve been there, and held resentment to the point of wishing for the death of my abusers. As I found my peace by doing and seeing exactly this, the anger faded and my mind became smooth and peaceful. Realize the canvas is blank, and we get to paint it however we wish… and as we free ourselves from past pain, the colors becomes more vibrant and joyous. Its worth the gritted teeth!
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantMel,
I’m not usually in disagreement with Buddhist Wife’s tenderhearted words, but in this case I am. Marriage is something that I see as a stage of intimacy, where closeness and connection are so strong that both people know that it is all they want. Consider that it is actually strange to my heart to hear that you are ready to marry him. He hasn’t cultivated good listening skills, didn’t help you when you lost a loved one, has shied away from sexual intimacy… and you want to marry him? Perhaps you’ve spent so long with him that you don’t actually see who you are with, and only see the safety or the dream you have of him.
That being said, if you both wish to grow an intimacy that is mutually satisfying, the love you have for one another could certainly spark it. It takes courage on both sides, and the willingness to bend, adapt and compromise. If you think he’s worth it (not because you’ve just been with him so long, but look at who he is) then counselling is a great idea. It can help to open up lines of communication, because having a trained impartial listener can point out what is unskillful on either side.
However you move forward, please do so with slow, gentle steps. Maybe go on a few dates and see what happens. It sounds like a time of renewal, and if you go too far too fast it is likely that either or both of you will fall into old patterns. Find the girl inside Mel and let her come play. Flirt, look, question and consider. Not “how do I make this relationship work” but “who is this man”. This will help you see what your own needs and desires are, and whether or not he fits them.
Sometimes loneliness makes us seek familiar people for comfort, but once the loneliness fades, we realize we haven’t changed and the same stuff happens over again. So, we go slow, listen to our hearts, and question everything. Then we find wisdom, who we are, what makes us happy, and whether or not the man is compatible with us. If not, don’t be afraid to move on. There are many incredible men in this world, and you deserve to have a partner who is tender, caring, and gives you his attention.
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantSwan,
I’m sorry for the loss you’ve been through, and the way it was done was certainly odd and uncomfortable. Relationships ending are rarely pleasant, and its really no wonder this one has left you spinning. When I read your words, a few things came to heart.
The first is that I really like how you’ve noticed that your mind has been difficult to settle. You said you have tried to meditate, but you get pulled into thoughts. That is normal, and the ruminations of the mind take concentration to let go. With continued practice, they do untangle.
If you can take it one step further, perhaps you’ll find some release from the pain of it. You’ve tried, and failed, to let go of the mental spinning. It as though your mind is on autopilot! Notice how much suffering is there with the spinning! Ouch!
Now, even though you had the intention of letting the spinning go, your mind stepped in and pushed back. That is normal, and actually so normal that many people don’t even notice it. Instead, they just fall into the negative thinking, which creates actions from the spinning. It seems exactly what happened to your Ex. You both noticed the relationship wasn’t great, but for whatever reason, his spinning pushed him to act like a doofus. Said differently, the same force which prevents your mind from settling in meditation is the same force which moved him to breakup with you so uncaringly. He might not even be aware of it, but its there.
Seeing this allows us to connect to our basic humanity, where we don’t blame people for acting without love, without caring. As much as you’d like to hold him accountable for the way he jumped ship, there is a part of you, compassion under the ruminations, that knows he has only done what he’s done because of his issues. Those issues bring him pain, just as yours bring you pain, so as you try to lash out at him in anger, it increases the strength of the ruminations.
Instead, we can let it go. Yes, there is pain from his lack of caring, but that pain is enough. It doesn’t have to be blamed on anything or anyone, because we all fall victim to the cycles in our mind. The good news is that they are impermanent, and fade as we connect to that basic humanity. You can strengthen that connection by wishing him well. “For whatever reasons you treated me in such a way, and for whatever reasons my mind spins, I forgive both of us, and wish that we find love and light on our journeys.” Blame only agitates the mind, because in blaming others we are blaming ourselves. Namaste.
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantBarbs,
As we grow our inner compassion, it extends outward into more living beings. It sounds like you have compassion for the hare, and he doesn’t. Is that a big deal? I heard a story of some Buddhists who insisted on digging a foundation by hand because they were compassionate for the bugs and worms in the soil. Yet, they freely give love to meat eating humans. Perhaps its not compassion that is driving the inquiry but something else?
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantDi,
It sounds to me like you have some detachment, which is great! Its fine to be a little numb, because it helps to not get caught into the drama. As long as the numbness isn’t leaking out into other connections, which could be falling into nihilism. Its one thing to see the drama and not get caught in it, and its another to feel it doesn’t matter. His patterns are painful for him, and compassion is the willingness to feel empathy for our suffering brothers and sisters.
However, when we’re first detaching from unhealthy drama, its normal and usual to notice an absence of allure to get sucked in. “Why do you do that to yourself?” and we turn away. It might help to do some metta practice with him as the target, because numbness feels more icky than kindness, though either is better than getting caught in it. Either way, follow your heart, it knows. Namaste.
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantNicole,
You ask some great questions! I really enjoy how you’re trying to help him from his side, and help yourself on your side. What a lucky artist he is to have such a mindful and dedicated partner! A few things came to heart as I read your words.
It is easy to become swept into notions of success and recognition, and lose sight of the art. Real art is an intimate connection between reality, the artist, and the resulting expression. In the audience, some people won’t ever get it, some require time to wrestle with it, and some will see it immediately. That is about them, not about the artist or art. Consider many of the people we consider the most profound artists of history didn’t find material success from their art, and it wasn’t until the world caught up that their genius was recognized.
This can be depressing, but only if the material success becomes interwoven with the actual art. Said differently, when we let the gentle light of artistic expression glow inside us, the art becomes more than enough to fuel us. Money, career… that works out one way or another. But the expression, the legacy of love we offer to the world through our art is what brings us happiness, and no amount of money replaces that.
So, in your desire to be a muse, just look deeply into his photography and help remind him of the beauty, what he seems to be saying, what you see… which in turn helps it bloom. Do keep an ear out, because often a muse will find inspiration on how to help the expression of art either inside him or with the outside world…and kismet often helps.
With warmth,
MattAugust 26, 2013 at 10:08 am in reply to: Decisions…again – so indecisive about life choices ! #41186MattParticipantBarbs,
Bravo! Your wisdom and patient consideration is really shining. You ask great questions, and of course you are the only one that can answer them, but you know that. On of my teachers said that just follow your desires, but mindfully. Someone who smokes mindfully will quit. Someone who chases sex mindfully will stop. As we become more attuned to who we are, how our body rests, how our mind reacts and responds, the negative falls away naturally.
Another of my teachers said that intimacy is difficult, but has the best chance of surviving when people are seeing the same essential things. More than looking clearly at one another, are they looking in the same direction? As time goes on, as your mindfulness increases, it will become clearer and clearer. No need to rush it, because it could be the attachment to the card, or it could be man isn’t compatible. Its great that you’re not trying to mold him, and simply asking yourself “is this the person I want to share the rest of this life with?”
The more self nurturing you become, the more stable, the easier it will be. Do his patterns challenge and supplement your joy, helping you become wise? Or are you sitting more and more as a stranger, unseen and unheard as he bounces from one moment to the next? What kind of words do you want there to be on the pages of your memoirs? This is the life of Barb, and you can write it however you want. The only thing that isn’t fair is to try to bend others to meet our desires… that just never works out. Free will, both respecting and expressing, is too integral to our joy.
Namaste,
MattMattParticipantBarbs,
Intimacy always requires diligence and mindfulness. When we want to increase our muscle strength, we lift weights. As the muscles get stronger, we add weights to put more resistance, which helps the strength gain. Relationships are the same. As we become more aware, our relationships become deeper, more motivating. It sounds as though he provides a great opportunity to help you build inner peace.
For instance, the pretty card became a symbol of your happiness, and as he tore a corner off of it, presented you a challenge. Let go of the attachment to the picture, and keep your inner peace blooming, or grasp onto it and feel aggressive and invaded. It reminds me of a story about a monk.
Monks do not have much in the way of material possessions. This monk only had a bowl. But he loved that bowl, and it became a symbol of his connection to the world. He would gingerly wash it, hold it, and at night would place it under the pillow in his room to protect it from being taken. One day he was walking, and the bowl slipped from his fingers, struck a rock on the ground, and split in half. In that moment he became enlightened.
We erode and break attachments along the path. That being said, relationships don’t have to be an endurance trial. His picture tearing was thoughtless. So, its really up to you. If you love him and like him enough that its worth sticking it out, use the opportunities he presents to let go of the bowl and grow. If you don’t enjoy your intimacy with him enough, perhaps he is the bowl.
Remember that inner peace happens independent of the external circumstances, but that is balanced by a peaceful environment being very helpful in becoming mindful. One of my teachers said that a mindful life is like an extreme sport. 🙂
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantJD,
Perhaps your heart is open, as you clearly express warm affection… maybe its your mouth that’s closed. 🙂 For me, the “practical method” is saying what I feel even in the presence of fear. Maybe what you say won’t be perfect, but so what? Maybe they’ll think “that was a dumb thing to say” but so what? Maybe they’ll say “you’re no good kid, you’ve got no future” but so what? The healing is from the courage, from the speaking anyway.
What I’ve found is that when I jump in, I feel great. My fears were unjustified, people like me, enjoy my input, and accept my participation. Even when I do stumble or feel like I said something dumb, it fades after the next jump. So I just keep jumping.
Perhaps you want the fear to go away first, before jumping. It might, but I don’t know how it could. When you fear the unknown, if you never plant a seed you’ll never know if the fruit is bitter or sweet. No one is perfect, so why bother waiting until you are before diving in?!
When in doubt, just ask questions. 🙂
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantSapna,
Many people don’t go deep, and want surface level friends. Now you’re beginning to see just how rare and precious of a jewel you are. Just keep going, you’ll find peers. As you settle your “need” for others, the inner light begins to shine and people will start appearing in the oddest ways. Said differently, as you follow your heart, you’ll find your answers. Right now you’re just learning about yourself, and finding your heartsong. Be thankful that you escaped the flock. 🙂 Leper, lol! More like lion.
Be patient, you’re getting stronger. The loneliness fades.
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantAnnaliese,
Good people sometimes do dumb things. I know how upsetting it can be to get in trouble with the law, and I’m sorry that it is so painful for you right now. Consider that only good people feel guilty for getting in trouble… if it didn’t matter to you, if you were a crappy person, you wouldn’t care. That you care enough to fall so hard over it means your heart is strong and caring.
A MIP ticket is really not that big of a deal. In many states you can just attend a class or do community service without paying a fine. If you have to pay a fine, it will probably be less that $200. Its good to learn from our mistakes, but the fine or service will be enough… the guilt is unneeded.
Just breathe, this will pass! If your head won’t stop cycling, consider screaming into a pillow, flailing around on your bed, jump up and down… get your energy moving again. Its possible the energy in you just needs release, and doing it in a safe way would be much better than cutting yourself or punching yourself in the brain. Remember even the best people did dumb things, its ok! I swear!
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantCarlos,
I’m sorry for the struggles you’ve been through, and I’m amazed at your courage to break free as you have. It does sound like you carry a little baggage, but you’ve come so far I have no doubt you’ll keep moving in an awesome direction. I know it seems heavy right now, having a heart that feels empty, but please don’t despair. There is always a path to joy, and you’ve already taken many of the steps you need.
Sometimes when the love we’ve been shown and the life we’ve had has been icky and isolating (such as the childhood sickness and cultist parents) our heart and mind come out a little twisted. We are so refreshed, so overwhelmed by an open hearted friend that we put them on a pedestal and look to them as the source of all happiness in this world. Like a person coming out of a desert who happens upon someone that gives them water, and it is so nourishing that we assume “they make me happy”. This seems real, but its not. The love made you happy, connecting to someone who saw you, listened and cared made you happy.
Had your childhood been more full of supportive connections, your thirst would not have been so deep. Perhaps it wouldn’t be “oh my, this man makes me happy” but rather “oh my, this is what love feels like.” It sucks, but you can’t go back. The good news is that as you reach out here and other places, you can untangle the baggage, set it down, and step forward.
It seems to me that you have a difficult time loving yourself. When we love ourselves, we don’t have to look outside our own heart for happiness. We are happy, and when we connect with a partner it is amazing, and we bring that happiness to the union, rather than get our happiness from it. Don’t worry, because its not something you just have to figure out on your own, its actually very common, and something which grows with time and effort.
Consider picking up some of Pia Mellody’s books. She offers some helpful insight on how to understand, forgive, nurture and act in a way that helps our hearts grow toward self love. It isn’t a switch, where one day we just wake up and love ourselves… rather it is learning how to be kind and gentle with ourselves, and love is a natural result of our tenderness.
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantJana,
I agree codependent sounds better than love addict, but I also find neither of them to be accurate. Codependency isn’t something you “are”… its just a game you’ve played as you try to find joy. Being a codependent is too permanent, false, unreal. We’re changing all the time, and as we uncover the reasons why we played that game, we stop. No problem. Then its just a matter of upkeep. Namaste!
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantJD,
That feeling of isolation that comes up in social situations is very normal and usual. I know how painful it can be, as thoughts and feelings wash over us as we notice that we’re not connecting well. Again, this is normal and goes away as you heal from the past. Two things came to heart as I read your words.
The first is courage. Courage isn’t the absence of fear, rather it is the drive inside us that jumps anyway. Open heartedness is an adventure, and can be quite scary. You commented in another thread that there was such courage, in our words and openness, and its true. This isn’t because I don’t feel fear, I do. I feel whispers of fear that I will hurt others with my words, that I will pass on tainted love, that what I see as light is a mirage, and is actually shadow. But, I jump anyway. Courage is just that, to say “yes, here is some fear, but here is also the chance at connecting, sharing, loving”. So we jump in and offer our thoughts, views and feelings.
That fear and feeling of isolation is from shame. Brene Brown has done some amazing research on shame, and how it arises alongside the belief that we are unlovable as we are. That because of some factor in our body, mind or history, we have become damaged, and if people really knew us, they would find it impossible to love us. So we hide, play games, put on armor, pretend we’re happy, become actors. When we look in the mirror (or close intimacies), we feel overwhelmed, either trying to prove to us or them that we are good enough to be loved, or in the absence of that proof, shrink away inside as we feel we are not good enough to be loved.
Again, this is normal and usual, and erodes with time and effort from us. As we cultivate warm feelings for ourselves, it becomes easier. Its not your fault, JD, you were abused. It sucks, its painful, but you’re not tainted or unlovable. Quite the contrary, compassionate hearts are inspired to help, to heal, to love you so much that it overwhelms your heart, spilling into your past and giving love to the little kid who was scared and alone. You deserve love, and so did he. I’m so sorry that it worked out the way it did for you back then… and all the chaos, all the isolation it sparked. Its not fair, but its also not permanent. You’re healing, and soon your wings will be free to fly. Then fear fades quickly as you realize the pain of the past is dead and gone, and you really do have the strength to connect, and that you have always been deserving of love.
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantAnn,
You’re welcome, I’m just doing my best to share the love and light of the world with the world. You asked how to deal with the pain, and how to move past this experience, and a few things came to heart.
The first thing that seems important is to see that a relationship has three separate components. There is you, with your thoughts, feelings, and reactions. There is him, with his thoughts, feelings and reactions. Then there is the intimacy, which is the interaction between you two, the way you relate to that interaction, and the common ground you two agree upon.
For you, on your side, perhaps consider reading some of Pia Mellody’s books. She gives very practical advice on how to disentangle yourself from him, so that you can stop making his decisions about you. For instance, it is easy to say “how could he do this to me?” but that is a dead end street. He ignored his own promise, which has nothing to do with you. It is between him and his reactions, thoughts and feelings. If he has a low self worth, it is normal to try to find happiness in drugs, sex, food. That has nothing to do with you.
It is almost the theme statement of codependency patterns for a partner to say “if only I can love them enough, they will be whole, they will change, they will grow into a good partner.” Pia Mellody explains how this is a failing exercise, and how to become stable in ourselves. We can’t change others, we can invite them, but the choice is in their hands.
Perhaps before making any kind of decision you can get back into your body, your mind, and look at it from the perspective of the life you want to live. Go on a nature walk, take a bubble bath with candles… do something you enjoy, just for you. Be kind to Ann, and help her wake up. Being with him can’t be about the kids, or about him… it is something that has to come from the heart. You are alive, breathing, and have the right to follow your path of joy. It is from our inner joy that our kids and partners find the nourishment and wisdom that will help them find their path as well. Said differently, self sacrifice is not helpful for ourselves or others… joy is something we share with others, not something we give up for their benefit.
With warmth,
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