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Sure thing, tinybuddhamatt@gmail.com
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MattMattParticipantSure thing, feel free to post on the board or leave an email address (if talking in public deters you). I’m @amatt for the record, if you want my attention. 🙂
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MattMattParticipantLittle Buddha,
Consider that the joy isn’t in the winning or losing. A huzzah or some tears, winning and losing, rising and falling, momentary flashes of emotion. Love of the game and our partners keeps us going, brings us joy and contentment when the trophies or tissues are put away. Resiliency naturally blooms as we see, find, that we can be happy with whatever outcome happens. Sure, we try our best to win, strike, score, whatnot, but that won’t always happen… so we may as well find the joy in the sport of it. 🙂
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MattMattParticipantCherrymom,
I’m sorry for your loss. 🙁 Consider reading “When Things Fall Apart: Heart Advice for Difficult Times” by Pema Chodron.
Hang in there, sis. It sounds like you’re in your moon phase, where intuition grows in leaps and bounds, but also the shadows deepen. The more we can relax and self nurture during these emotional times, the less overwhelmed our bodies become. Consider starting a metta meditation practice. As we practice metta, our mind becomes more peaceful, spacious, where we can grab a pen and sort out what’s going on, what needs are being neglected, and especially helps us make the room to grieve shamelessly for our losses, cry it out, and heal tenderly over time. Consider “Sharon Salzburg guided metta meditation” on YouTube, if interested.
Any self nurturing activities can help us unwind, feel more peaceful. What’s going on in your relationship to food? You sound like you’re carrying around a lot of stress, which naturally, usually, decreases our appetite. In such times, it helps to surrender our own intuition into the trust of an expert, such as your doctor. Instead of thinking “I’ll eat when I’m hungry”, or “nothing tastes appealing” for instance, consider approaching eating (per doc’s diet guidance, or nutritionist) as a way of being kind to yourself. A noble, meditative effort that you put forward to show your body its loved. Perhaps this (especially if combined with a metta practice), could quickly help you shift your relationship with food into a better balance, and I bet your body would feel much better. Again, any self nurturing actions you take can help, if the weight thing is for some other reason. More of a guess on my side. 🙂
No matter what the conditions are, you’re not broken, sis, just under the weight of stress, and it can erode, does… the river always overcomes the stone, and as dust, what once troubles us washes back into the sea. You’re on a well tread path, friend. Chin up!
Consider checking around for a grief counselor, someone specializing in helping people through such times. Books and meditations and so forth can help, but if there’s an empathetic and expert ear available, it could help a ton.
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantNamaste, brother. 🙂
MattParticipant*waves*
When you post on an internet forum, you have to be prepared for condemnation and judgment. I’m surprised at your shock!
Just kidding, I’m not surprised.
With hope,
MattMattParticipantJ,
Just wanted to chime in as a reminder that we’re all growing, most full of twists and turns inside us, and they don’t define us. The J of two weeks ago, two hours ago, has grown, moved on. The way “J IS” such as “I am this way…” is false, overlooks just how beautifully we can see through and abandon old patterns. Then its just upkeep, like keeping out of old ruts with sweat and perseverance, and the ruts fade, disappear.
If I didn’t know this, perhaps describing you as unworthy, unfit and so forth would make sense… but we know better, ya know? Hurt feelings heal, and we grow. No biggie, keep breathing. That’s a gem of a heart inside you, keep letting it shine. 🙂
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MattMattParticipantMegan,
We all do that, make decisions selfishly, get angry, act from anger, and so on. This doesn’t mean that you have an ugly heart. Rather, consider that you’re looking at your choices and feeling discontentment, which means you have a radiant heart that feels sorrow when a moment without loving slips past. This is a great place to be, because the rest is just a matter of doing some spring cleaning. 🙂
Without hearing more of your side of things, its tough to say what comes next. Guessing, perhaps you don’t handle mistakes well, such as wanting to give love but giving anger instead, and you end up feeling shitty. Instead of laughing at your bumbling, you feel sludgy which pulls you out of balance, where more “less than ideal” decisions/reactions come up, bringing more discontentment, more sludge.
Buddha taught that we all seek happiness, but the way we go about finding happiness often pushes happiness further from us. Not that we’re bad, certainly not “ugly”… we’re just foolish kids looking here there and everywhere for happiness. 🙂 These bumbling “mistakes”, (reactions of anger, deception, hiding, sludgy bits) are just defenses… and are unavoidable. They provide necessary feedback that motivates our growth in a better direction, where our actions come closer to producing the happiness we’re looking for. Said differently, you don’t get angry for no reason, you don’t lie for no reason, and as those reasons are seen, they heal, and the behaviors naturally fall away. The sludge of it helps us see where we’re hurting, what causes the reactions, and so forth.
Consider that forgiveness is perhaps the key to breaking the cycle of seeing Megan less beautiful because she makes mistakes. You mess up, other people mess up, and that’s fine, normal, usual, expected. As we rest, seeing the way our anger or lies make us feel, how they don’t really keep us safe or bring us joy, we can sigh and try to do better next time. Accepting we mess up, and when we do, it feels uncomfortable… which means our heart is doing just fine, and slowly, ever so gently, growing wiser with each attempt to find our balance.
Also, don’t take your wisdom from internet memes. At best the ideas are like a candy store, and at worst, they’re like a swamp. Just because something sounds correct or witty doesn’t make it true. “Ugly heart” for instance, is something that is never true. When someone sees “an ugly hearted person”, for instance, it just means something is out of balance inside the seer (compassion and clear seeing slipped away from them because of various causes) leaving them seeing “ugly” where another being might see “beauty”, “sadness”, or any number of things.
If you’d like to open up some of the things that pushed you toward anger and lies (defenses against perceived attacks, maybe?) feel free to share. You’re loved, lovable, acceptable… “mistakes” and all. But, if they’re painful, getting rid of them makes sense, ya know? Not so you can be more “beautiful hearted” for others, that’s just silly. Rather, so you can be unencumbered, more happy, free of it.
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MattMattParticipantAni,
I’m sorry for your relationship troubles, and can understand the difficulty of trying to be intimate with someone that has difficulty opening up, and instead hides. Consider that you come across as very sensitive and strong, a real powerhouse of a woman. And, you’ve mentioned how you have to change him, grow him, and make him different. This is not a good combination, you perhaps crush his tender shoots of self esteem without even trying. A few things came to heart as I read your words.
It makes sense that you’d want, need, more input from his side. Intimacy requires good communication… there are simply too many choices to make that need honesty from both sides, in order to have enough information to make it a skillful choice. If he is not giving that information easily, then it makes sense that you’d want to try to pull it out of him, prod him until he gives it up. Perhaps you also try to steer him before ever finding out his side, telling him what you want and why, before asking him what he wants. Perhaps even assume what you want “is the correct thing” such as “this is what a relationship is supposed to be”, or “you need to talk to me more”, or “I want rice for dinner because that is the best thing for us, what do you want?”
While these things come from a loving and somewhat wise place, they also don’t produce the kind of courage you’re looking for in your partner. If he is withholding or hiding his energy with you, but then is bouncy and fun with others, perhaps he’s fearful of expressing himself to you. Consider for a moment, that perhaps your sensitivity and powerful female energy make it a little extra difficult for him to express things to you. If he said “hey, that thing you did really pissed me off”, would your response be kind, open, curious about what sparked his feelings? Or would you engage with fire, telling him how you feel, how he makes you feel, how his anger “doesn’t count” or “doesn’t fit”?
There are some people that “fill up a room” with their own side of things, wanting to be in control. This is fine, normal and usual, someone has to captain the boat. But its also important to make space for his side to blossom, too. For instance, consider the following:
“Tonight, I wish to give myself to you in whatever way you’re interested. What would you like to do? Go out? Stay in? Watch a movie? Have sex? My only desire is to be together, wherever you wish that togetherness to take us.”
This is keeping your hand on the wheel, keeping your natural role as captain, but allows his side to direct what comes next. After all, more than any movie or dinner or lovemaking, you’re trying to aim at him, right? Instead of “hey, eat this, its good for you”, just bring him to the buffet and hold his hand in yours. More than any specific food (or date night) its the hand holding that is good for you both.
That being said, its also important that you choose sometimes, too. But it could really help him if you were to hold his hand and say something to the effect of “of all the paths that rest before us, my desire is you. Where do you wish us to go?” Then, be curious, open to what he is thinking. Like a cheerleader, rooting on his explorer side. “You want me to lick your ears, OK, let’s do it!” or “You want to watch a low budget sci fi movie, OK, let’s do it!” or “Oh, you want to XYZ and ABC? OK, let’s do it!”
Even if you’re not that interested in the movie or ear licking or XYZ, so what? You’re exploring him, the experience, and him in the experience, so there’s plenty fun to be had even if the movie is dull, or the taste of his ears isn’t particularly alluring.
Finally, its good to keep that hand on the wheel, maintain the control of the intimacy and see it moving where you want it to go. Just keep in mind that good intimacy is more about inviting the other person to join us somewhere special, rather than telling them what to do or how they should be. His desires need to know its safe to come and play, and if you’ve been sensitive and fiery in the past, it may take some time for that feeling of safety to grow for him. Be steadfast. 🙂
Namaste, sister, may your moments grow ever more satisfying.
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantJ,
Well then, perhaps its time to learn how to let go? Like, in the past, all sorts of jealousies, angers, and fears came up that pushed you two apart. As you took a break, you began to find forgiveness, self confidence, inner stability… and then whammo, here’s a new agitating vision that gives you the chance to put to use the work you’ve been doing. The best lessons are often a little thorny, as are the best romances. How else would we stay awake? 🙂
J, and I mean this kindly like a bandaid pulled off quickly, you seem to be projecting your insecurities onto her, and she deserves better from her partner.
You two broke up, and she perhaps went looking for comfort. This is like having the music turned off in one house, and as she missed the song, and singing, she jumped toward another instead of grieving the loss of what she had. Very normal, usual, and has little to do with you. Perhaps if you were there, she would have gratefully accepted your comforting (and ideally, she could greatly benefit from self nurturing, finding comfort in her own tender care), but you weren’t there. In some ways, you failed her, left her alone and scrambling for tender attention. And now, internally, you’re acting like a moral judge, standing “above her”, pointing down on her actions as though you’re any better. But also, hopefully, seeing the hurt and jealous boy, with a nagging itch inside that says “perhaps this is my issue”.
That being said (sorry if it got stingy), its very natural to feel icky about what happened. Your tender heart is only beginning to grow confident in J the Man, and to have visions of her with others is understandably challenging. Consider pulling back from the “shock” of what she did, which keeps you on her side, judging, and instead ask yourself: Why do I feel so threatened? What fear is driving this painful feeling inside me? Love is tender and accepting, spacious, and does not produce the confusion you’re experiencing. That comes from some attachment or fear on your side. Consider: What prevents you from opening to her past, looking with curiosity to see if she learned anything from her experiences, and then using that information to make your life of love more skillful?
Said differently, you appear to be feeling like you never really broke up, and so hold negative feelings for her actions during the break. This is fine, but has to play both ways. Meaning, if in your heart you never broke up and consider her actions betrayal, then you must accept that you deeply betrayed her as well by leaving her alone in the cold for months. What did you think would happen? She’d just lock herself in a tower and wait for her prince to return? Do you realize how foolish and selfish that sounds? She’s a woman, with very real and unavoidable needs, and perfectly/imperfectly tending those needs, like you, me and everyone.
Finally, consider Big Blue’s suggestion of getting some professional help, perhaps even couple’s counseling if your heart is intent on working through it all. There are lots of signs of codependency, on both sides, and while that doesn’t doom the relationship, it does mean that there is work to do for you both. Together, and independently. Intimacy often, usually, collapses when the partners are “the whole world” to one another, and one another’s mistakes “large beasts of challenge”. Better, healthier, and sustainable when you both have your own worlds that you share together. Like for you: your self nurturing, self growth, and following your dreams (not including romantic dreams) fuels your happiness. For her: her self nurturing, self growth and following her dreams fuels her happiness. Then, you two share the happiness inside each of you with one another. Some counseling could help that balance grow, if you’re both interested.
Namaste, brother, may your gavel be replaced by a gentle scrub brush.
With warmth,
MattPS: Consider offering her an “honest reach”, translated into your own tongue of course. “I’m so sorry for judging your actions, dear princess, it has been painful to hear your stories, and my trust has bruised, pain clouding my vision of you and us. Will you help me find our safe space, where we can simply smile and dance under the stars? I wish to hear our song again, I miss it, you, us.” If you can’t find this thread inside you, then I can’t see how you’d be able to build something lasting. At least not yet/with her/with her yet.
MattParticipantSultana,
In addition to inky’s heartfelt wisdom, also consider that the son deserves a sanctuary, time to breathe, find himself, and grow. Fathers often would do anything for their kids, and for example, if you were you to come at me in such a way, it would be very difficult to see your side. Like, if you were to come to me with pain, but start by chopping off my feet, there would be little of your pain discussed, because my pain would be too loud for me to see much of anything else.
That being said, your anger and stress at the situation is understandable, you work hard and wish to have that warm safe space. Anger won’t build that, however. With him, or inside you. Consider reading “Anger: Wisdom for Cooling the Flames” by Thich Nhat Hanh. When we can do something different with our anger, our creativity is rekindled, letting us do more skillful things with our desires. Said differently, perhaps if you hadn’t been enraged, you two could have addressed and met your needs without the hatred or combat.
From another direction, why couldn’t you just join them in their joy? If they were happy, making delicious food, and laughing, couldn’t you just grab a plate and dig in? Let go of the 12 hours of work and relax and play? What prevented you? Jealousy? Seeing imbalance?
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MattMattParticipantJ,
Well, what do you want? I hear lots of information about her and her side, but from you, just “it hurts”. The simple answer is yes, you can overcome your hurt feelings. Do you want to? That’s perhaps what you need to figure out, first.
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MattMattParticipantTrevor,
Consider sitting with, relaxing, and resting with the uncertainty. Just below the fear is a shaky tenderness that perhaps will provide you with the answers you’re looking for. If interested, consider “awakening compassion pema chodron” on youtube. She goes into great and wise detail. 🙂
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantJ,
Consider that perhaps you’re still looking at her with your old eyes, from the old space. Like, old boyfriend J would rightfully feel betrayed at her actions, and a lot of your sense of the relationship is from those times. If you met a new, beautiful woman that had slept with a few guys in her recent past, perhaps you would be grateful that she wanted to choose you, now. Not “oh, well this maiden has been sullied by indiscretions” or “that’s cheating” or some other nonsense.
The solution, in my opinion, is one of two paths. Either you let the past remain dead, such as old J and old girlfriend are now dead and gone, never to return, and what you build now is new, fresh, curious about the past, accepting. Or, move on. You’ve been doing great work, important work, and if you’re not ready to reboot like that, that’s OK. You have a tender heart, and even more tender sense of trust.
Its tough to repair a broken intimacy, takes a lot of forgiveness and letting go. You can’t push it, or force it, or just not be bothered by things… on both sides, little tender shoots of togetherness blossom when you both accept one another, wholly, as is and as was. Her sex and your discomfort at her sex, both natural, usual, lovable.
Either way don’t stop doing all that wonderful work nurturing and healing. A relationship can sometimes inspire a backslide, so make sure your roots into J version 2.0 stays strong, well tended.
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantMaureen,
Consider spending some time looking at how everyone makes mistakes. You, me, them… all of us. The lucky ones laugh at mistakes, then clean it up if possible. The unlucky ones say “I’m a failure” and hide. If we actually look how silly we all are, bumping elbows and toes as we all try to find our happiness, connection, and so forth, we cultivate gratitude and humility… and an authentic, deep laughter at both the rain and sunshine. 🙂
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn5D2bFf_Tw
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