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November 4, 2025 at 2:11 pm #451529
AlessaParticipantHi Peter
Thank you for sharing! As Anita said, beautifully written. There are no other words to describe it. ā¤ļø
Some additional thoughts. I think that sometimes experiences shape our very being. Fear can become a state of being.
It seems to me that awareness is the antidote to this. Seeing it clearly can soften it a little, leading up to question if there is a better way? Giving us the strength and space to breathe deeply and allow it to pass. Perhaps coming back to things with a clear mind? All we can really do is try. ā¤ļø
Iām fascinated with emotional contagion. It takes mirroring from theory to a practical reality. Human nature. Chicken or the egg? š š„
November 3, 2025 at 10:08 am #451482
AlessaParticipantHi Tee
That is a shame. I understand, you only get one spine and you have to be cautious when it is already damaged. ā¤ļø
I hope that you can find someone who is available sooner rather than later. š
Social work set it up, but back then they really didnāt care, sadly. The family was even already involved with social work at the time for their own daughter.
Yes. It feels like there is never the right time to share because other people always have something else going on that doesnāt put them in the right frame of mind to be able to hear me out.
Iām okay with people sharing their feelings. It is just when people are not really in a good mood or the right frame to talk, then it kind of feels like I donāt know⦠itās hard to describe. But it doesnāt really leave much room for me does it?
What I mean is that I feel rejected when people donāt respond positively to me sharing my feelings. I know that people donāt see eye to eye sometimes and have different emotional experiences. Itās just a bit stressful when you donāt feel understood and also when you donāt understand someone elseās feelings. Part of it is my autism, because I do have difficulties understanding others sometimes unless they explain. I guess when things are a bit negative, itās not easy to be curious about asking questions.
Thanks for your kindness and listening, as always. ā¤ļø
November 2, 2025 at 5:59 am #451459
AlessaParticipantHi Tee
I saw that you got the results back and your disc herniated worse this time. I hope that recovery will not be as difficult too. š I can empathise with the knee issue making things harder. ā¤ļø
My friend who has the herniated disc swears by his chiropractor. He found a really good one. Not every chiropractor is good though. Itās definitely worth asking around if youāre curious about trying it. Whatever you route you choose, I hope it brings you relief. I hope Iām not intruding or stressing you out. ā¤ļø
Sadly, it wasnāt courage. I was just desensitised to being threatened with a knife and being hit. I wasnāt even scared because of what Iād been through with my mother.
Thanks, yeah I surprised myself and I was a little nervous because it was years since I had tried that exercise. It really does help though!
Ah well, we were all members of the same cult. Thatās how we met. Members were encouraged to only spend time with other members, thatās how we became friends. Social worker was just really shoddy back then. They were looking to skip paperwork, cost of providing childcare, legal fees and protocol with informal adoption. Because they were family friends I was literally dropped off and social work never even bothered to get back in touch again.
I am thankful that I wasnāt alone. I didnāt feel able to cope on my own at the time.
Yes, it was easy to protect myself with my adopted family in comparison.
Honestly, it is okay. I donāt mind questions or misunderstandings. My life has been complicated. ā¤ļø
Yes, that and I feel like Iām a bit impatient and get a bit anxious and frustrated waiting for the right time to discuss things. I prefer it when people are easy to talk to. ā¤ļø
I think being a bit skittish around negative feelings just makes it feel like Iām not being accepted. But I realised recently that Iām not accepting the other person when Iām being resistant like that. ā¤ļø
November 2, 2025 at 5:30 am #451458
AlessaParticipantHi Anita
I agree with Tee. That craving for someone else to save us can come from the same place that craves mothers love. But the only person that can save us is us. ā¤ļø
I understand that it is a difficult exercise. It took me years to be able to do. ā¤ļø
I remember sitting with my therapist in her office. We did it with empty chairs. I was too scared to talk to the idea of my mother. My therapist had to do it for me.
It might seem silly the idea of a therapist shouting at an empty chair imagining it was my biological mother, but it did bring me comfort.
I think youāre brave for trying! ā¤ļø
October 30, 2025 at 11:44 am #451406
AlessaParticipantHi Anita
Fair enough. Iām glad you found your own way of doing things. ā¤ļø
The purpose of the exercise Tee previously recommended is to help with flashbacks. So with practice when you have one you can take control of it and make it less painful by rewriting the memory and protecting yourself.
Iāve come to understand that PTSD is kind of a dysfunction of imagination.
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October 30, 2025 at 10:44 am #451404
AlessaParticipantPlease let me know what you think? It is okay if the exercise isnāt your cup of tea though. I donāt want to pressure you. ā¤ļø
October 30, 2025 at 10:44 am #451403
AlessaParticipantHi Anita
Iām glad to hear that you are having better days. ā¤ļø
I hope Iām not intruding? I just wanted to share what my therapist recommended about the confronting exercises. She was very accepting of emotion. She was okay with shouting and swearing when the situation calls for it. So it is okay to confront with anger. The key is to imagine an adult you with a little you. The focus being on protecting little Anita. Confronting the mother is secondary. Because you wouldnāt want to fight in front of a child, that would be scary for a child. The goal is entirely to focus on what you would do to protect your child self. If that makes sense? You could pick a less stressful memory to start with. You definitely donāt want to start with a very difficult memory. ā¤ļø
October 30, 2025 at 6:17 am #451393
AlessaParticipantHi Tee
Thank you for taking the time to understand. ā¤ļø
Well I guess it depends how important the issue is to me. If itās not that important Iāll just process it on my own. But if itās important and requires discussion, Iāll wait for a bit until the person seems like they would be in a more receptive mood.
I canāt really discuss the specifics in too much detail, just because Iām being respectful to people in my life. I can only talk in more detail via email.
I would say for my brother it was mostly about not provoking my biological mother. She had a lot of strict rules that needed to be followed. My brother wasnāt really invested in following them.
For my adopted family it wasnāt to avoid provoking them. It was just they had no interest in taking care of my sister. Alcoholism was a theme in both families.
When I moved in my sister was being threatened with a knife by the stepfather and screamed at. I stopped that very quickly. I just said if you donāt stop picking on her I will report you to the police and you will be in jail so fast your head will spin. If you want to hit someone you can hit me, but you will end up in jail for it. Any just like that it immediately stopped.
She was also being verbally abused intermittently by her mother too. Mostly when her mother was drunk or having an episode.
I took care of my sister because we were friends beforehand and no one else seemed to care. There was also an expectation for me to help out because I was taken in. At that point it was pretty natural for me because I was looking after my brother before. I didnāt get too much of the abuse from the family because I would just walk away when they started on me. So I would mostly just get ignored for a couple of weeks which suited me.
I tried my best, but I wasnāt perfect by a long shot. I havenāt had contact with my brother since I left. I gave him my number but he never called.
My sister tries her best and grew out of her behavioural difficulties.
Itās okay, I donāt mind. I know youāre just trying to understand the situation. ā¤ļø
October 29, 2025 at 6:40 am #451343
AlessaParticipantHi Tee
Thanks for listening and taking the time to understand. It is interesting breaking all of this down a bit more. ā¤ļø
I think itās a few things not just anger that I avoid. Rejection or even just not being listened to. Sometimes it is certain, sometimes itās not. It is like you said, it feels pointless sharing if the person isnāt going to be receptive.
I wouldnāt say that I withdraw from the relationship. I tend to just retreat from conflict, manage my feelings and carry on as normal outside of conflict. I self-regulate pretty quickly as long as I donāt force myself to stay in the conflict. I donāt believe in stonewalling or anything because I wasnāt treat like that a lot as a kid. As long as other people are calm Iām quite happy to be around them.
I think the thing was these behaviours for me werenāt necessarily directly directed at parents. I was always the oldest child. It was always me looking after siblings with very little interaction from parents.
I learned to ignore parents and just focus on taking care of the house and siblings. I hoped that if I took care of things that there would be less interaction with parents. My siblings always had behavioural issues because of the abuse received from parents. My brother was violent. He was beaten very badly by our mother. I would try my best to protect him when he wanted me to.
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October 29, 2025 at 12:11 am #451340
AlessaParticipantHi Tee
Thanks, youāre an angel. š
Iām quite happy to talk. I just wanted to let you know that youāre appreciated. ā¤ļø
Yes, youāve got the jist of it. š I have some anxiety around conflict. Iām not very comfortable with people expressing anger and such.
If I feel like someone isnāt going to be immediately receptive, even if later on they change their minds. I have a bad habit of not sharing. Iām trying to work on it.
I think itās shades of when I was younger, I used to actively try to manage others moods. But I realised that I was doing them a disservice by not encouraging them to develop those skills themselves.
I heard that all of these things are a trauma response.
I think itās partly to do with being a parent because I wasnāt this avoidant before. It is just a lot of energy and draining. Arguing doesnāt really appeal to me anymore.
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October 27, 2025 at 2:56 pm #451285
AlessaParticipantI guess I would say that I just prioritise my boundaries in the moment and not try and talk things through. I try to talk things through later on. Itās just sometimes that talking isnāt immediately successful and that can hurt.
Hmm I just looked up guilt tripping and thereās quite a lot there. I hadnāt really thought about it. I would say that people do these things but it doesnāt really work on me. Iām quite impossible to budge. The more people try, the more I tend to dig in. It can be quite frustrating I imagine. I donāt really believe in harbouring feelings of guilt because I really struggled with that in the past. I feel like the best way is trying to act in ways that Iām proud of.
I feel like people depend on me being too understanding and over managing my emotional regulation to keep things off their plate which isnāt healthy. At the same time, I recently learned that retreating from conflict is a bit reactive. Iām trying to work on validating the emotion, not the action and being a bit more present.
Itās been nice talking Tee! I appreciate you. ā¤ļø
October 27, 2025 at 2:11 pm #451284
AlessaParticipantHi Miss Duchess
Iām so sorry to hear about your family dog. These things are not easy. ā¤ļø
Iām glad to hear that the choir is going well and youāve been catching up with people. It sounds like your hard work is paying off. Well done for keeping at it. ā¤ļø
October 27, 2025 at 1:17 pm #451283
AlessaParticipantI have been learning more recently. I think I keep too much inside and Iām afraid of negativity because of my trauma. I want to be more comfortable with people expressing their emotions and I should share mine more even if it makes people feel uncomfortable sometimes. I guess it is about finding a balance.
I do still crave acceptance, but in a different way. I guess it is just the keeping things inside. I wish that other people didnāt feel so much pain and could see me.
Yeah, I tend to hide most of my feelings from my son. But I was doing some research and it said that they can pick it up anyway. Itās called emotional contagion and it can happen just looking in someoneās eyes, or touching them. Fascinating stuff.
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October 27, 2025 at 1:02 pm #451281
AlessaParticipantHi Tee
Iām sorry to hear that youāre not feeling well at the moment either. I hope you feel better soon too. Itās not easy. My friend had a herniated disc and he said it was so painful! I hope the doctor will take good care of you. I understand the health anxiety. I think youāre doing a really good job in managing it! ā¤ļø
Thank you for your kindness. ā¤ļø Iām starting to sleep more again now. It was just the grief keeping me awake for a bit.
The climbing out of the crib just makes it take forever to put him to bed, so all my free time went bye bye and it was quite sore and tiring. His naps during the day were non-existent unless I cuddled him to sleep which again hurt because I hold him to make sure he doesnāt fall off the bed. I figured out a solution though, got a chair for his nursery so I donāt have to go backwards and forwards all the time. It all worked out in the end! Heās going down a lot easier again now.
Be back in a bit ā¤ļø
October 27, 2025 at 12:44 pm #451277
AlessaParticipantHi Anita
Iām glad to hear the storm is over and you have power back. Well done on your inner child work. It sounds like youāre making a lot of headway. ā¤ļø
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