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July 12, 2015 at 2:15 am #79670CharlotteParticipant
Hello there,
I am experiencing states of guilt, discomfort and self-reproaches these days and though I am seeing a therapist, I still feel the need to share my feelings and situation with fellows who might understand me or comfort me a bit. If any of you can relate to my situation or feelings I would be very grateful to hear from you or receive any advice you may have. Or maybe you have a similar story to share? In any case, it would comfort me to connect with you and maybe be comforted a bit.
To make the story shorter, this is the situation I’m in:
Since I’ve been around 15 years old (I am 22 today), I’ve had constant eating problems; I’ve had periods of strict control, periods of bulimia and periods of what might look like normal eating from the outside but inside of me it’s always been carefully planned and controlled. I’ve had a mental plan of every single day regarding what to eat and how to exercise. I’ve had and still have (but less) trouble being present especially during meals because it’s hard to monitor my eating and be present at the same time. In general it’s like my inner plans for eating and exercising have been my primary priority and being present, having integrity as a person, and living up to my personal responsibility to myself and my surroundings have been of secondary importance.For years I’ve been absorbed by this planned world (in varying degrees) and gradually I’ve come to despise myself more and more for not living up to my responsibility as a human being and for being addicted to food and planning. For a long time I’ve felt like life was meaningless and I only found my daily rewards in my meals. Every day I felt drawn towards food because that seemed to be the only reward, though it was a very short one and it definitely didn’t fill out the big emotional “hole” I felt inside myself. It was a never ending treadmill for me. I felt addicted to food and to planning my meals and my surroundings became very instrumental in getting these planned meals. I couldn’t connect with myself or other people because I would mostly focus on getting my meals and planning how to burn them. Everything was very instrumental and I felt addicted to this life style.
As I said before, I’ve been seeing a therapist for a long time and we have tried to work on these things but I haven’t really broken through until two weeks ago. Recently the feeling of not being able to live with myself like this, has grown inside of me, and I’ve felt forced to make a change. My therapist suggested that I’d try eating the things I really FELT like eating without monitoring it – the things that I would not allow myself to eat without monitoring exactly how much. I finally managed to break the cycle by letting go of the need to monitor my eating completely and connecting to a deeper feeling in my stomach.
And it’s amazing.
It’s like some curse has left me – the feeling of a strong “attachment” to food and planning has left me and I actually feel free to make deliberate choices. Not just about food – about everything. It’s like it’s been connected to every part of my life and letting go of the need to control has also removed the need to use food as my drug and seeing everything in an instrumental way. I can feel interest in people and things in a completely different way. I can feel myself.
That’s one side of this change. The other part is the dark side (so to say). The breakthrough also comes with guilt. Guilt for treating people around me in an instrumental way for all this time, guilt for saying and doing things that I’ve felt drawn towards but that weren’t in line with my inner compass, guilt for being addicted and not choosing to break it before, guilt for being so controlled by my own ego – by the worst part of human kind (right?). I feel like I’ve let myself be lead by the worst part of me – the “sinful” or evil part. Like other people would not let themselves be consumed by their ego that way, and how could I neglect myself and my existential responsibility as a person THAT much? It’s not like I’ve done any major outer wrongdoings but I despise my own state of consciousness. I’ve lived in this constant feeling of being tempted to try to fill out this endless whole in myself and I’ve followed this temptation and tried to fill it out in a terrible way. I mean, I did feel and know that what I was doing was not right but I didn’t feel strong enough to break free. I kept choosing the short satisfaction even though I could feel what would be the right direction to go. I wasn’t sure if I could make it out of this cycle though and I let so many days pass by without trying to change. I kind of accepted that way of living and only tried to fill out the constant “hole” in me with food. I even tried to get rid of the deeper part of me that kept “bothering” me for not living up to my responsibility – I didn’t succeed in that of course.
So that’s probably the worst part – that I gave in for so long to these short needs or temptations without trying to get out.
So on one side, I feel all these new possibillities in my life and with myself but on the other side I can’t let go of despising myself for being consumed by my ego as I described. I feel disgusted by myself.
So I know this ended up being a long story but it was hard to get it out any shorter… As I said, I would be very grateful for any advice on how to tackle these very uncomfortable feelings or maybe a story from someone who recognizes any of this.
Thank you in any case for taking your time to read this or share your thoughts :).
//Charlotte
July 12, 2015 at 3:59 am #79671kitsuneParticipantHi Charlotte,
I’m new here but I felt a connection so I’ll try to explain my thoughts.
I used to say that guilt was the emotion that defined me. I felt guilty about everything. A counsellor told me that if you strip guilt back and look at it closer, it’s anger directed at yourself.
I, like you, have been on a journey. Five years ago I was in a bad place. The death of a friend made me realise if I didn’t do something now, my life would end like hers. I was depressed, compulsively hoarding and struggling with OCD. I reached out and got help.
The guilt in hoarding disorder is huge. It’s one of the things that stops many people getting better. The guilt is so painful they can’t face even looking at the problem. Guilt can create a vicious circle.You are brave. You have been working on the problem and it sounds like you have turned a corner. Is that how you feel? I love your words “I can feel interest in people and things in a completely different way. I can feel myself.” You sound strong.
When I was dealing with the hoarding behaviour I would feel such intense emotions. The fear, guilt, and sorrow were so strong they would take my breath away. Someone told me about acceptance and commitment therapy. (If you want to find out a little bit about it look on youtube for a video called “passengers on a bus ACT metaphor”). The basic gist is that you accept your negative thoughts and feelings for what they are, don’t deny their existence but still live the way you want to live.
I name mine. I say “Ooh, there’s fear here” “I’m feeling anxious about this” “I feel guilty that this bottle cap can’t be recycled” and then I throw out the bottle cap anyway. I was part of an online support group and I would post on there “had a thought that I am insulting my grandmothers memory by throwing out a damaged gift she gave me but I’m throwing it out still. I still love her.”
It is hard but I got there. I can honestly say that I am in a better place now than I have ever been. I’ve dehoarded my whole house. I am truly living my life for the first time. I still have negative thoughts. I still find that voice “You’re so useless” popping up. I say “mmm, interesting” and then carry on with what I’m doing. It’s made me strong.
You sound like you are in a good place. Keep going. Accept those thoughts and feelings, but don’t let them be the boss of you. It is my opinion that these feelings were always there, I just obeyed them before. I hoarded, I allowed guilt to define me. When I stopped doing what they told me to do, they started shouting louder. I think this might be what has happened to you? You have had a breakthrough and the thoughts and emotions are rebelling. Carry on with what you are doing. You are doing great.
You said “I actually feel free to make deliberate choices” and “I feel all these new possibilities in my life and with myself”
I love these words. It sounds like you are coming towards purpose. That was the major, major breakthrough for me. I realised the reason I was being so self destructive was because I wasn’t letting myself be creative. My creativity was coming out in weird ways. I let myself be me, started writing and expressing myself and the desire to actively gather (increase the hoard) diminished so greatly.
To quote Mary Oliver ‘Tell me, what is it you plan to do with your one wild and precious life?’ Be aware, it doesn’t have to be one thing. Why not write a list of possibilities and then start moving towards some of them?
Kitsune
July 12, 2015 at 6:04 am #79672InkyParticipantHi Charlotte,
I heard a quote once, “I don’t care that you don’t love me because you don’t like my drapes.” Well, you can use that in any situation, even talking about/to yourself.
There’s the right thing to do, and you do it, even if you’re plagued by uncomfortable emotions. You have to separate your correct actions from your emotions. Say, “I am eating. I feel guilty for xyz. So what?” In fact, tell your emotions and brain, “So what?” every time they make you feel bad.
The breakthrough you had was strong and powerful! Of course you’re going to get “kickback”. In fact, expect it! “You know you’re on the right track when the Devil notices it!” is another quote I like.
Millions of women have an eating disorder, are on a diet, or are on a “regime” of “health”. Notice men don’t have this (as much). When we say, “I’m stopping the Food Rationing,” you are saying I Exist, I DESERVE to Exist, and there’s MORE TO LIFE, and I’m LIVING it!! Very, very powerful. Political, even.
Congratulations, and keep seeing that therapist who is GOLD!
Inky
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July 12, 2015 at 8:14 am #79677AnonymousGuestDear Charlotte:
About my disordered eating: I am 54 and still dealing with it every single… hour, so far. I don’t think ..no, I know not a single hour goes by that I don’t think about food and eating. But I am healing. Healing as a process. Regarding the behaviors I have done: overeating, severe overeating from a very young age. Then binge eating since 2011, that is eating until i bend over in pain and for hours I can’t or couldn’t stand straight, sometimes vomiting. I ate thousands of extra calories in a couple of hours, food after food, going from one fast food or store to another getting this and that and this and that on and on, driven, on autopilot, excited, heart racing… and the misery following. For years I restricted and over exercised. At 5’5” I got as low as 103. For years I kept an average of 108. Every time the scale showed higher- higher than any number, i felt distress. I recorded my weight on a graph for months and months, and a record of what I ate, ounces and calories, months at a time. I went over the calories in the afternoons, tormented by the day’s overeating. I pick up food from anywhere in fear it will go to waste. I have been avoiding picking it from the floor. Have been picking food from trash, wiping every pan, every plate. The misery is unspeakable. There is more, what I wrote here is only some. Oh, and I am so anxious I no longer go to restaurants and attending social party, pot luck occasions is a big problem.
Anyway, I am healing. I have so much to share because I have been dealing with it for so very long. It is very much a personal journey. I wonder if you think some of the behaviors i listed, like eating from the garbage, if you think it is disgusting and you say to yourself: Oh, I do not do THAT so she (the writer here) is crazy.”
In any case, this is a loaded topic. I have a lot to say. I don’t even know where to start and what could possibly be helpful to you. If you think I can be helpful to you, please ask me any questions you would like.
One thing: All or Nothing thinking plays a lot in this and lack of self empathy does as well. That Toxic Inner Critic in YOU is strong as it has been in me and your lack of self empathy is evident as well- and I believe is the key. Only it is a process and not anything that can be taught or passed on by my written word here- it has to be experienced. And it is a long process, I started it in 2011 so I have a bit more of 4 years of therapy.
Ask, if you would like, and I will answer your questions to the best of my ability.
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