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    Kelly Nguyen
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    Hi this is my first post in this forum. I want to ask for some wisdom and clarity.
    I have a 3 years long distance relationship, and we planned to get married to be together. He’s from Florida, I’m from California.
    For the first 2 years when we’re in long distance relationship, there’s up and down. I can see myself being a person that has patience to reconnect, solve problems, communicate my feelings needs and wants. There are tiny moments that when I looked back, I realize I suppressed my emotions. Example: we have a movie date by FaceTime, I rushed home after hanging out with friends and he just canceled it once I got hom because he was tired. I told myself it is okay but It has happened many times.
    The red flag I can see is anger issues, defense. However, thought out the years, I can see that he’s changed for better. He’s more patient, and he can manage his anger. And I can feel like he fell in love with me more deeply. More caring, more considerate, more love, more effort is put. At the beginning, I was attracted the experience that he had had that makes him be a better person. All of the challenges he’s faced when he moved to US. He’s funny, responsible, caring, smart. We have same type of music and food, sport. We both want “date to marry”
    However, there are lingering feelings that I have now as we’re at 3 years relationship.
    • I don’t have patience. The last 2 fights that we had, I can feel that I’m more aggressive. It’s hard to compromise and in my head, and my body tells me to break up.
    • I don’t feel the connection. For me, I feel the connection when we have adventure or silly moments, or when we’re cuddling and I do cute stuff to him. Since I analyze my feelings a lot, I even question what is connection right now. I shared a lot of my thoughts, my traumatic dysfunctional family stories, he’s the one that see me cry the most.
    • I question if I even love or in love with him. This maybe self diagnosed because I don’t have a budget for therapy. BUT, I have had ROCD for a past few months. After we decided to get married, these questions has come up:
    + Do I love him? Do I even feel happy? What if I faked my feelings all the time? Do I feel in love? What if it’s all wrong? What if I don’t love him anymore? What if I’m not bisexual and I’m straight? Should I break up?
    => It’s gotten bad. At first, in third year, the “Do I love him?” just a fling thing. At that time, I have to decide if I want to get married or not. For some contexts, I’m scared of marriage because of my parents. When I look at our relationship, I keep projecting their relationship on my relationship. He’s more like a mix of my mom’s good characteristics (nurturing, caring), and bad ones from my dad (anger issues). The main thing is that I’m more adventurous, spontaneous like my dad and my boyfriend is homebody. This dynamic reminds me of my parents because my dad cheated on my mom so many times. And my mom is forced to be in unhappy marriage that she turned to be toxic, narcissistic, and she expressed her anger on my sister and me. Me and my boyfriend already talked about it, and I can see and feel, be sure that we’re not gonna be like them. However, I keep having those images and thoughts.

    Before I went to the trip to Florida for a month, we talked about marriage because he wants to know if I still want this. I notice that I need to make requirements that I can feel safe in marriage even though we should compromise. For example: he wants to stay at his aunt and uncle’s house to save money before we move out. My perspective/protective/conservative defense wants to move out because I don’t want any one to interfere the relationship. Like what if they talk bad, make us do stuff, etc. Logically, he’s right so I admitted that I let my fear turn everything to bad place even though it’s not that bad. So we continue, I went there.
    I have those thoughts again. On a good day, like if we hang out, it’s not there. But when there’s silence, I lay on his bed, I have those thoughts. It’s so annoying that I checked feelings, checked questions, Google it, used Chat GPT to analyze.
    It reached to the point that we were lying on bed and watching movie together. I looked at him and I bursted to tears. He asked me “what’s wrong honey?” and I just cannot stop me from saying “ Why I don’t feel any sparks? Is it normal?” And he said it’s normal since we have dated for so long. Long short story, I decided that I still want to stay even though I have a mixed feelings should I go or stay.
    Sometimes I know I still love him and care for him, sometimes I feel numb. While I look for reassurance on Reddit or any platform, I cried because I don’t want to hurt or lose him. But I talked him about this, 3 times, I still don’t have my certain answer. I fantasized being with somebody else, but I know that deep down I want to stay with him and explore life with him.
    He took a break from me, he said I wasted his time. I keep being on and off, I don’t even know myself. Trust my thoughts or my feelings.

    #456358
    anita
    Participant

    Hello Kelly Nguyen:

    Welcome to the forums, I’m glad you posted here 😊

    There’s a thread right under yours titled “I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love”-

    It was started in Aug 2015 and is still ongoing. Dozens of members shared their stories and I replied to all through the years. I think that it may help you to read parts of this thread (even though you may have not “just randomly and suddenly”, or permanently, lost your feelings for your boyfriend).

    As I read your original post I was deeply impressed by your level of emotional honesty and awareness. Also, I got the feeling, or impression that your boyfriend is a decent person who- like you- is able to learn and grow into a more loving partner.

    In my mind, it’s no wonder that you’re experiencing difficulties in the relationship, being that, if I understood correctly, your mother has been nurturing and caring on one hand, and unleashing her anger at you (and your sister) for years.

    This combination is what I grew up with and it caused me to crave intimacy on one hand.. and distrust it, on the other.

    Does this resonate?

    🤔 🍃 Anita

    #456367
    Kelly Nguyen
    Participant

    My parents fought a lot, and when they fought, I tend to hide myself, suppress feelings, isolate because I’m all by myself. Growing up, I tend to hide my feelings and always pretend that I’m okay. I can hold my feelings and be alone. I don’t think I have many friends, and I do crave connection from my boyfriend. I would say I’m anxious attachment to my boyfriend. I ask for assurances, I feel safe with him to tell him about my past. But his way of loving is we should focus on ourselves, and then we’re together, it’s gonna be a part of happiness. But , again, I have these spiral thoughts and I asked him for assurances. Yeah… I don’t know about my feelings or even trust my feelings anymore

    #456368
    anita
    Participant

    Hi Kelly Nguyen: I’ll be away from the computer for a few hours. Will reply when I am back.

    #456370
    anita
    Participant

    Hello Kelly:

    Thank you for sharing more. What you wrote about hiding during your parents’ fights, suppressing your feelings, and learning to be “okay” on your own makes a lot of sense. Many people who grow up in homes with conflict or unpredictable anger develop very similar patterns.

    In that kind of environment, a child’s body learns a simple survival rule:

    “If I show my feelings, I might get hurt. If I stay small and quiet, I’m safer.”

    So, the child learns to hold their breath, tighten their body, stay hyper‑aware of others’ moods, scan for danger, suppress tears, hide anger, hide needs, hide sadness, and stay watchful. Over time, this becomes automatic — it becomes the child’s “normal.”

    When that child grows up, the body often continues reacting the same way, even when the adult environment is safe. In relationships, the nervous system might panic when things get serious, doubt feelings, fear closeness or abandonment, need reassurance, feel uneasy during silence, spiral into “what if” thoughts, shut down or go numb, or feel confused about love. Not because the partner is unsafe, but because the body learned long ago that closeness = danger.

    It doesn’t mean anything is wrong with you, and it doesn’t mean anything is wrong with your boyfriend. It’s simply that old survival patterns can get activated when closeness is desired.

    You mentioned craving connection and reassurance, and that your boyfriend’s style is more “we each take care of ourselves first.” That kind of difference can be challenging, especially for someone who grew up needing emotional safety that wasn’t available.

    I’m wondering if this general explanation resonates with you — not as a label, but as something that sometimes happens to people with similar childhood experiences.

    🍃 Anita

    #456374
    Kelly Nguyen
    Participant

    Hi Anita,
    I notice that when he mentioned about the future of us, I can feel anxiety. Like my heart is tighten, I don’t know if I’m ready for that. He can imagine the future that has me in it. And I’m more like I know he’s gonna make my life better. I have a lot of guilt if I decide to stop this relationship now. But if not, my anxiety keeps popping up. Even though we’re taking a break now, my mind is still spiraling. Like what if I don’t like his personality and I just go along with him because he makes me feel worthy? What if I like the idea of getting married but not with him?
    I cried a lot yesterday, but today I’m just… numb but my mind is spiraling if I make wrong choice.

    #456375
    Kelly Nguyen
    Participant

    I wish that I don’t care about him. But this is just beyond for my mental health.

    #456376
    anita
    Participant

    Hey Kelly:

    I hear how upset you are, and in my mind, it’s understandable. I relate because I too grew up in a home where my father repeatedly cheated on my mother (before they got divorced when I was 6), and she turned her anger on him before they got divorced, and then, she turned it on me and on my younger sister- for many years after.

    Right now it seems like it’s all too much for you and you need a break, a real break, so to calm down and become steady, grounded.

    The break you’re having with him right now is.. not a break for you because.. you’re afraid to lose him altogether.. do I understand..?

    🍃 Anita

    #456377
    anita
    Participant

    To add: it’s clear to me that you love him. But when Fear is intense.. it takes over.

    Calming down is first step. Think of all the things that make your life safe right now. What are those things?

    #456385
    anita
    Participant

    Hey Kelly:

    Rereading your last post this morning, it sounds like your mind and body were in a very activated place. When the future becomes real in a relationship, it’s common for fear to show up in strong ways — even when nothing is “wrong.” Many people feel that tightening in the chest, the spiraling thoughts, the “what if I choose wrong” feeling. It’s a very human response to pressure and uncertainty.

    What you’re describing — the swing between guilt, fear of losing something good, fear of making a mistake, and the numbness that follows — often happens when someone is overwhelmed. It doesn’t mean anything about the relationship itself. It just means your system is under a lot of stress.

    You don’t have to solve anything right now. You don’t have to decide anything. When fear is loud, clarity usually goes quiet. Giving yourself some space to settle — emotionally and physically — can help things feel less urgent inside.

    Whatever you’re feeling, you’re not alone in it. Many people go through this kind of inner conflict when a relationship becomes meaningful.

    🍃 Anita

    #456397
    Kelly Nguyen
    Participant

    Hi Anita,
    He’s keeping distance from me now, or being avoidant, which I understand. He has a fear of being abandoned, and I have it too, but I’m more anxious. It’s strange to me about how I feel and think. Every time we have conflict about this problem, like me “have no feelings”, “no interest”, I ask “Are we breaking up?” as if I’m asking for reassurance “no”, but then my mind constantly think “ maybe I should break up” because I feel that he deserves someone that feels certain about him. He deserves an infinite marriage because I keep thinking within 3 years, I’m gonna divorce him if I realize I have no feelings for him. I imagine myself going somewhere else, living alone and figure what the hell is wrong with me. THIS IS SO SAD AND DESPERATE when I think about it.
    I booked the flight to see him because it’s gonna be his birthday soon. I had a thought that maybe he’s happy when he sees me, this is before our third fight happened. During that time, I was wondering if I should go or not because it’s gonna be cruel for him. But he could clearly see I was not excited like him when we talked about it. I had a pressure of making decisions, like every time! That’s why we had another break because I keep being like this. And it’s frustrated and annoyed to him.
    But I still decided to go since I have nothing to lose. And he still picks me up. But I have anxiety that he may act cold to me, which leads to me being anxious or numb. I may act based on my anxiety not what I feel at that time. I even have a back up plan imagination if we break up, what things I will pack and I’ll leave my ring there.
    Anita, what should I do when I get there? How should I start conversation with hope that we can build connection again. It has been 2 months since we last met and all of these things happen within 2 months. I don’t want to lose him and the life that we may have together, but I don’t want to hold him, make him suffer because I feel lonely. I suddenly wake up in every morning, and I can feel lonely and anxious because of my thoughts.

    #456398
    anita
    Participant

    Hi Kelly: glad to read from you again. I’m preparing a reply and will submit it in about an hour and a half from now.

    #456401
    anita
    Participant

    Hi Kelly:

    What you’re describing makes a lot of sense once you look at the pattern underneath it— you’re reacting from a nervous system that gets overwhelmed when relationships feel uncertain.

    Here’s the pattern I see in what you wrote:

    1. You get anxious → your mind goes into “all or nothing” mode. When you feel distance or conflict, your system jumps to extremes: “Are we breaking up?”, “Maybe I should break up.”, “He deserves someone better.”, “I’ll leave my ring there.”

    This isn’t because you want to leave him. It’s because anxiety makes your mind search for certainty.

    2. You ask for reassurance, but the reassurance doesn’t stick. You ask: “Are we breaking up?” because you want to hear “no.” But the moment you feel anxious again, the fear returns.

    This is a very common anxious‑attachment loop.

    3. You imagine worst‑case scenarios to protect yourself. Your mind creates “backup plans” because it’s trying to soften the blow of possible rejection. It’s not a sign that you don’t love him — it’s a sign that you’re scared.

    4. You care about him deeply, but anxiety makes you doubt your feelings. Anxiety can numb you. It can make you feel disconnected from your own emotions. That doesn’t mean the feelings aren’t there.

    It means your system is overwhelmed.

    Nothing about this makes you cruel or unloving.

    About seeing him — here’s what might help: you don’t need a perfect plan. You don’t need to fix everything in one conversation. You don’t need to force excitement or pretend to feel something you don’t feel in the moment.

    What helps most is slowing everything down.

    When you see him, start simple and human: “It’s good to see you.”, “I missed being close to you.”, “I know the last two months have been hard for both of us.”, “I want to reconnect, and I want us to take things slowly.”, something like that.

    You don’t need to solve the relationship in the first hour. Just focus on connection, not decisions.

    Let the first conversation be about the present moment, not the future. Something like: “Let’s just spend time together today and see how we feel.”, “I want to be honest, but I also want to stay calm and connected.”

    This takes the pressure off both of you.

    If he’s distant at first, it doesn’t mean he stopped caring. It means he’s protecting himself too. You can gently say: “I know things have been tense. I’m here because I care, and I want us to reconnect slowly.”

    This shows steadiness without pressure.

    The loneliness and morning anxiety you feel are coming from your thoughts, not from reality. Your mind wakes up and immediately checks: “Am I safe?”, “Is he leaving?”, “Do I feel enough?”

    This creates a wave of anxiety before the day even begins.

    It’s not a sign that the relationship is doomed. It’s a sign that your nervous system is overwhelmed.

    You’re not doing anything wrong. You’re not hurting him on purpose. You’re not incapable of love. You’re scared — and you’re trying to protect both him and yourself at the same time.

    Kelly, nothing about what you’re feeling is unusual for someone who gets anxious in relationships. You’re not broken. You’re overwhelmed. And you don’t have to make any big decisions right now. Just focus on reconnecting slowly when you see him.

    🌿 Anita

    #456406
    Alessa
    Participant

    Hi Kelly

    Welcome! So you are trying to decide if you want to get engaged? Or trying to finalize the details of getting married?

    It’s really stressful being on a break in either situation. I’m so sorry that you are being pressured like this. 🩵

    It’s a difficult decision because it is life changing getting married. I think even people who are certain it is what they want still have some doubts.

    The red flags you’ve noticed are valid and it’s understandable to want to avoid the kind of experience you were exposed to growing up with your family. 🩵

    Is your plan to one day have children of your own? I would say that having a child puts an incredible amount of strain on people. Their worst traits are very present. It takes a lot to actually put the good of the relationship and the child above instinctual reactions to high levels of stress.

    I don’t think you’re wasting time. It sounds to me like you are taking things very seriously and thinking them through carefully. Quite right, this is an important decision. 🩵

    Is there a fear that if you don’t agree soon, then you might lose him?

    #456434
    anita
    Participant

    Hi Kelly:

    At the end of my last message to you I wrote that you don’t have to make big decisions right now. I want to elaborate on it this morning:

    Making big decisions, like marriage and a much bigger decision, having children, is not something a person who’s already stressed and overwhelmed should think about.

    The most important thing is for you, at this time, to minimize stress in your life.

    Having mentioned children: imagine you had a stressed and overwhelmed little girl: would you pressure her to feel any particular way or do what would stress her even more?

    I am guessing you won’t and that you’ll do your best to calm and soothe her- because you’d love her and have her best interest in heart.

    Please 🙏 be as good to you as you. You matter.

    🍃 🤍 Anita

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