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March 15, 2018 at 3:49 pm #197517
GrumpyToad
ParticipantMe again, I just wanted to add to my post. Regarding the wedding invite, I had quickly said it’s okay to invite her even though I didn’t mean it, because again, I was scared of the confrontation. Had I not been, I may not be where I am today. Just had to add that, thanks again tinybuddah community!
March 16, 2018 at 1:51 am #197559abubin
ParticipantBeing a married couple, you need to communicate with him if you do not feel happy with him getting too close to this girl. I am sure he will say it is nothing and that they are just friends. However, you need to explain to him about your uncontrollable jealousy. It’s because you love him a lot. Since you have already tried and you are still jealous, perhaps tell him not to mention this girl in front of you? Since there is nothing going on with him and her, just let whatever happen in office stays in office. You don’t need to know if he made coffee for her.
You just need to know that he love you and will never cheat on you.
March 16, 2018 at 6:45 am #197607GrumpyToad
ParticipantThank you and thank you for the suggestion. When it was first brought up he had already said all those things, yet I can’t shake it! The fact that he’s open with telling me things I know is a good sign because then there’s nothing that’s being hidden. But you make a great point about what happens in the office is just that. Thank you!!
March 16, 2018 at 7:40 am #197615Anonymous
GuestDear GrumpyToad:
As you learned, being terrified of confrontation, and as a result, not being assertive hurts you. Got to slowly incorporate assertiveness into your behavior with your husband and with everyone else in your life. How to do it when scared?
See to it that in your relationship with your husband there is no aggression, that no matter how distressed either one of you, you do not act aggressively toward each other: no yelling, no name calling, no put downs, not directly not indirectly, and instead, make your relationship a safe place for the two of you.
In such safety, once you get used to it and trust in it, behaving assertively will not be scary anymore.
I am glad you added that you told him that you are okay with inviting her to your wedding. Before you added that, I thought it was disrespectful of him to invite her even though you (stated, I thought) that you were uncomfortable with her there.
I would ask him to not talk about her to me, if I was you, so to be safe from being triggered this way.
anita
March 16, 2018 at 7:46 am #197619GrumpyToad
ParticipantHi Anita,
Thank you for your response and suggestions, I thought it was important to state that I had said okay, even though I knew as I was saying it that it wasn’t, you’re right it was to avoid conformation and it definitely has hurt me in the end.
Some of our fights are okay, others can result in getting loud or defensive or both of us feeling like we’re not being heard by the other person which I know is something we both need to work on.
Thanks again for your insight 🙂
March 16, 2018 at 7:53 am #197623Anonymous
GuestDear GrumpyToad:
You are welcome. A lot of people think it is natural for a couple to fight, an unavoidable reality in any relationship. But it is not true. It is not necessary to fight. It is possible to not fight, ever. Resolve conflicts without fighting, there are ways of doing that.
anita
March 16, 2018 at 8:10 am #197629GrumpyToad
ParticipantI agree, I believe that it should be a discussion, not an argument because when it gets intense, no one is benefiting. I’m definitely trying, but it takes two and it takes time!
March 16, 2018 at 8:37 am #197637Anonymous
GuestDear GrumpyToad:
Yes, it does take two to argue and it takes two to have a respectful discussion, instead of arguing. Did you already suggest to him to not argue, to not fight and if so, what was his response?
anita
March 16, 2018 at 8:53 am #197643GrumpyToad
ParticipantI do, he gets wired up pretty quickly in my opinion and escalates it, I’m not completely innocent in it either as I can get loud as well, but I am the one to always say we need to talk about it and try to listen to each other. But it’s hard because he shuts down, and when I tell him he is, he doesn’t respond well to it. That’s what makes me scared because he may just walk away even though I’ve said time and time again that you can’t do that. That’s why if I talk to him about it, I’m not sure if the understanding will be there, and I know that it will also come off as distrust. The last time we had a conversation surrounding this (which was with the wedding invite) he said, well if it’s jealousy that’s a whole new conversation we need to have, and I was scared. He tells me of thier interactions, so I know while he doesn’t tell me everything, he’s not trying to hide the fact that they’re friends. A lot of it is fear of what will happen if I do bring it up again.
March 16, 2018 at 8:59 am #197633Jas
ParticipantSome thoughts on this as the female friend in many scenarios in male-dominated fields.
Have you tried befriending this person? Would you feel comfortable doing that? As someone who is around men most of the time, I have found myself wanting good girlfriends to hang out with. Some women around my work tend to be catty and very competitive. I’ve learned to reach out to those who seem to want friends. It makes a huge difference for them and for me. Even though I do meet men here and there that I click with, aside from our decidedly unromantic shared interests, everything else is professional.
I am straight and I do date. Having said that, I prefer to date people who have nothing to do with my work, aren’t fans, and have lives and interests of their own.
You may not realize this, but I hear a lot of great things about you from your partners. My first thought is usually, “I’d like to meet this person!” not “Y’all think you have solid relationship? Hold mah beer!”
March 16, 2018 at 9:22 am #197657Anonymous
GuestDear GrumpyToad:
He feels distress, he shuts down. Couple counseling, if of quality, can help with that, a whole lot. If he is interested, that is.
You wrote that you are afraid of what will happen if you bring up your jealousy again: what do you think might happen… what do you think he meant before the wedding when he said “that’s a whole new conversation we need to have”?
anita
March 16, 2018 at 9:36 am #197663GrumpyToad
ParticipantI feel like it may be too early for counselling but I have thought of it before to be honest with you.
I don’t believe that anything drastic will happen, I don’t think we’ll split up or anything like that. My worry is that it will become a huge explosive argument and that he won’t understand that it’s just who I am, not that I don’t trust him even though I understand how jealousy can be mistaken as distrust. And he sees her everyday, so every time he talks to her, he’d think about our conversation and will likely not talk about her or think twice about it, which I feel isn’t good communication between him and I. If that makes sense?
March 16, 2018 at 9:55 am #197669Anonymous
GuestDear GrumpyToad:
It makes sense to me that you are afraid of “a huge explosive argument”. I think everyone is afraid of aggression, I am. So it makes sense, when you anticipate aggression, you withdraw from what may bring it about. You are afraid of the consequences of such argument, making him less comfortable to let you know of his thoughts, cautious.
Here is your best bet, I believe, to communicate with him on the matter, best bet to not trigger his distress and either withdrawal (shutting down) or anger. If you let him know in a calm voice that it bothers you that he talks to you about her, that it triggers your distress and ask him if he can help you by not talking to you about it, he may feel empathy for you and would like to help you this way.
You can tell him that if you do something that triggers his distress, that you would like him to let you know, and then, if it is reasonable and doable, you will accommodate him too.
You can ask him if he thinks it is reasonable that he accommodates you this way: not talking about her to you, if it is possible and doable for him.
If you don’t blame him for what you feel, express no anger toward him and no strong emotions of any kind, on the matter, keep calm, you are most likely to be heard by him and accommodated.
What do you think?
anita
March 16, 2018 at 10:47 am #197695Mark
ParticipantGrumpy Toad,
It sounds like both of you do not know how to communicate. You are afraid of conflict and he/you get defensive, walks away. Not a good formula for a long lasting, intimate/close relationship.
Find a counselor to teach both of you how to communicate. You say it is too early. I say that if either of you did not know how to deal with concerns and differences before the marriage then it is not too early. Non-Violent Communication is a great tool (you can Google it) for communication.
Plus you are not setting boundaries on what you do and do not want, e.g. having him share personal information with his office girlfriend (and yes I am using that term deliberately). Whether it is a sexual affair or not, it really sounds like an emotional affair.
Mark
March 16, 2018 at 11:02 am #197705GrumpyToad
ParticipantHey Jas,
Thank you for your insights, I have thought of befriending, but then I feel like that encourages more out of work contact and I’m not comfortable with that.
I haven’t heard a perspective likes yours before so that is refreshing. She’s one of the only girls in the department so I can understand where you’re coming from. What sets me off is that she’s also become very, very close (as in they always hang out together and they’ll hang out in his car all the time during department wide get togethers) with another guy in thier department who’s married, which is boundary crossing to me. I understand everyone is different, but it’s still unsettling to me.
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