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  • #100328
    littlemisshoney
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    I have not posted on here before, so I’m sorry if this is in the wrong place or if it is too long. I appreciate anyone taking the time to read and respond …
    I have been in a relationship with my SO for 8 years now. It has not always been plain sailing, in fact, we have had a lot of downs along the way, but somehow we have managed to stumble out of them and carry on.I know that I have doubts about my relationship and I keep asking myself, how much longer do I give this?

    To cut a long story much shorter, I met my SO at a time in my life when I was really free and happy, confident in myself and not really worrying about the future/wanting to find ‘the one’. I just enjoyed his company and he made me laugh. I knew he was different but I liked his charisma. He appeared outwardly confident and ‘manly’ – my previous boyfriends had always been very sweet and attentive but lacked this certain strength of character.
    Things went really well for a few months, and then the arguments started. He would get very defensive about the smallest (in my mind) of things and would often shut off all communication with me. I would get very upset and cry, a lot, then after a few days I would forget and move on. The months went by, we moved in together and things just seemed to get worse. He literally disconnected from me. I never really understood why, but then he began to open up about his past and although I don’t know the details, I know that he was physically abused as a child by his mother. His father left when he was born. He had a very traumatic upbringing. I tried my best to help him but I always ended up feeling like a complete failure. There was hardly any communication, no physical connection whatsoever. He would hardly even look at me. Things got so bad between us that I made a very difficult decision to end our relationship. Although I knew it was coming, it was the hardest thing I have ever had to do and his reaction did shock me/scare me at the time. I was worried about what he might do to himself.
    I moved out and it took me a few months to really even begin to move on. I started to get my ‘old self’ back and meet up with friends, I planned a trip for the summer break and went away for 2 months. I even met a guy when I was away (who I fell for but the feeling was not mutual!)
    Anyway, when I got back, we started seeing each other again – I guess as friends. He had started counselling and he wanted me to know that he was working through things for himself. He seemed better.
    Months passed by and we ended up back together. I don’t even remember how it happened, it’s like he was a magnet or something – we just gravitated towards each other. I had my own flat by then, and I was comfortable living on my own. After a while, I asked him to move in with me.
    That was almost five years ago now.
    Things in general are MUCH better. But our relationship needs a LOT of ongoing work as it is very up and down, and sometimes I just don’t know if I really do love him. He is a much better mental space, and he has a job he really enjoys and loves. We are engaged (that happened three years ago) but no plans to get married. I have postponed wedding plans a couple of times now … he says he is happy for me to just do what I want with the wedding. He says we could just get married, the two of us and he wouldn’t mind. He just wants to be with me and for us to be happy.
    The truth is, I cannot see us getting married. More to the point, I cannot see us growing old together. I look back at photos of us and I struggle to think of good times, that sounds awful doesn’t it. I sometimes wonder if it is me with the problem.
    I have tried to tell him how I feel but he just says things like he is willing to do whatever it takes and we don’t have to get married. I accidentally became pregnant last year and although it wasn’t planned we were both very happy about the prospect of starting a family. Then I suffered a miscarriage which I don’t think I have fully come to terms with yet. I am 36 years old now and worried that if I end things now, I am going to blow my chances of having a family for myself. My feelings go from wanting to end things to thinking we should just get on, get married and start a family.
    Our life is SO much better than it was 7 years ago, but I still have a real niggling feeling that something isn’t right – every single day. Even when he does sweet things for me or tries to get close to me, I just can’t bring myself to let go and be myself. I think I’m almost scared of that feeling of being rejected by him, which is something I learnt to protect myself from years ago.
    Has anyone been/ or is in a similar situation?
    What can I do to really tune in to how I am feeling and what I want? How long do I keep on trying for? When is it time to call it day?
    From, someone who has so much love to give.

    #100363
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear littlemisshoney:

    You mentioned his childhood, a “traumatic upbringing,” that he was physically abused by his mother. How did it affect who he is today, do you think? How did his counseling help him…?

    And, on that note, do you think that your own childhood, your own upbringing, has a role in your relationship situation with this man?

    I will be back at the computer in about 10 hours and would like to re-read your original post and any additional one, if you choose to add to your post.

    Good night:
    anita

    #100366
    littlemisshoney
    Participant

    Hi Anita
    Thank you for taking the time to read and respond to my post.
    In answer to your first question, I think that his upbringing and the way his family treated him has affected his entire view of how a relationship should work. He is rarely affectionate and finds it difficult to talk about his feelings (both things have improved since he has had counselling) But he still has ‘dark days’ I suppose you could call them.
    Before he went to counselling he used to have frequent suicidal thoughts – he says that he no longer feels like that. And I can see that he is in a better place now. He says he loves me and he shows me in his own way… But the communication and intimacy is limited although is probably improved from years gone by.
    I think for me, I almost used to feel bad about thinking badly/ asserting my own needs from our relationship, knowing what he had been through.
    My upbringing was very different I suppose. My parents cared for me and did they whatever they could to make sure we were fed, educated, safe and happy. My own parents were never very happy together, even as a child I knew that. But they would have done anything for me.

    #100376
    Matty
    Participant

    Hello Littlemisshoney,

    I have five points that i wish to make, hopefully they are not to long 🙂

    I think it would be wise to put a line in the sand, namely, i want you to disregard the first part of your life with your SO. From the moment that you got back together should be what should be concerning you. Since, in the past things were different as you have admitted. Your SO has also taken a step to better himself mentally by seeing a counsellor. Now that you have done that (and i know this is hard), try to look back on these memories, which you already are, but try to separate your feelings on the past from the realtiy. When you see a picture of you two together, try to recall the moment, not the image. When we see a smiling face from years before, unless we are in a happy place in the now, the past seems tainted. You have mentioned that you find it hard to think of the good times, i would assume that there are many, especially considering that you two ended up coming back together. I believe there is a flame within both of you, but it’s buried deep down and being repressed by your current feelings.

    My second point is guilt. I feel from reading your post that you somehow feel responsible, almost guilty because you have been unable to help your SO. However, you should not be feeling guilty over something you didn’t cause. As a partner you shouldn’t be expected to carry the burden. You have been a supportive partner, which in this situation is all you can be. You can not fight your SO’s inner demons for him, he must conquer his own darkness within. I also think that’s something that is playing on your mind, if you leave, what will happen? what will he do to himself? Basically, anything that happens afterwards you may blame yourself for, even if you never involved in the process itself. Also, you may also be feeling guilty if you were to break up that you would find happiness he wouldn’t. I think this is natural since you don’t dislike him, you are just not happy within your own life anymore.

    The third point; parenthood. I’m sorry that you had a miscarriage. I think getting over it will take time, nothing more nothing less. I think it plays on couples minds, it was so easy for them, why me? why us? I think time will heal these emotional scars, and i hope for the best for you in this part of your life. THis is also where i would like to bring up parenthood. If you feel you partner is emotionally distance, this isn’t necessarily going to change if your SO becomes a father. I believe that people can change their opinions, understandings and perspectives, but i don’t believe that one can truly change what they inherently are. Can you see your SO as a father? a role model? Being a parent isn’t an easy life, you become responsible for another life. Even if you became parents, do you think your SO would support you? Will he be that shoulder that you lean on for comfort? If you can’t, in your heart answer one way or another, then that in itself is an answer.

    Fourth; he is good enough. I think you have the frame of mind, that your SO is just good enough. You have a biological clock ticking in your ear and you feel that you would rather be a mother before anything else. I believe that you clearly don’t think you are attractive enough to hook another guy. You clearly don’t think you have enough qualities that would make someone interested in you both sexually and romantically. Once again, i believe this is because you keep viewing yourself through your current lens. Do you really want to live your life, especially when you become a mother with someone that was just good enough. Sure, your feelings may change for your SO, he may prove himself capable, but this is the catch-22. Do you risk everything for uncertainty, or risk sanity for certainty?

    My final point; you. My mother has a saying, “I would rather wake up alone and know who and what i am. Knowing that i have my own back, knowing that i can do whatever i set my mind to”. When you are in a relationship, my understanding it is meant to be a team, a team that works well. Sure, sometimes the team has issues with purpose, direction etc. But it still a team that both are mutually invested in. When you wake up, you should feel that your SO has your back, encourages your notion of who and what you are. A partner should be able to put your mind at rest, because with him by your side; you are validated. You are a girlfriend, a partner, a friend, a lover, a member of the team. You know who you are in relation to your SO. Do you know who you are now? You mentioned that you started to gain your confidence back after the first dissolution of your relationship, have things changed? I think you need to weigh up whether or not you want to continue to wake up feeling like the opposite of who you are or want to be; or do you want to wake up and look @ the mirror and say “i love you”? Do you love yourself, littlemisshoney? This is why i like my mother’s quote. I would rather spend the rest of my life alone, in my own company knowing that i’m who i want to be, that i love myself for my strengths and weaknesses. WHat about you?

    At the end of the day, if you follow your heart, take the fall, and it’s what you want…..then it was worth it.

    THanks for reading everything, I hope this has helped. Please if you have something to add or wish to comment, please continue to post.
    Sincerely,
    Matty

    #100386
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear littlemisshoney:

    I re-read your original post and your last one. In the original you wrote that something is wrong. You also wrote: ” I cannot see us getting married. More to the point, I cannot see us growing old together. I look back at photos of us and I struggle to think of good times, that sounds awful doesn’t it. I sometimes wonder if it is me with the problem.”

    In the second post you wrote that your parents were never very happy together and that you knew that as a child.

    I think that the line right above indicates what it is that is wrong in your current relationship on your part. When you wonder sometimes if it is you with the problem, you are 50% correct. You own part of the problem in the relationship, something you bring into it from your own childhood.

    Your not-knowing and hesitancy, and things just happening in your relationship indicates to me that you are troubled by the relationship between your parents still. That you carry with you distrust in the reliability of a relationship with a man, a distrust you carry from your childhood.

    Your boyfriend and you are carrying injuries from childhood, different kinds but injuries they are nonetheless. Your relationship is an opportunity for him to keep healing from his injuries as he is engaged in doing. Get more involved with his healing so to support his process. And at the same time get engaged in your own healing and have him be involved in it. That way you will get closer to each other, helping each other.

    Take it from there.

    anita

    #101992
    littlemisshoney
    Participant

    Hi Matty
    Thank you for taking the time to read my post and respond to it with such depth.
    Your reply really got me thinking about what it is I want the reasons behind my feelings.
    A lot of what you say rings true, I am worried that I will never find someone else and more than anything in the world right now, I just want to have my own family. I always knew that, but after falling pregnant and then suffering a loss, it has just amplified that
    feeling of wanting to have a child
    of my own. I do try to tell myself that things could be a lot worse and that my SO is a good person and I should count myself lucky. I always see the good in people and situations, and it’s very hard for me to have a non-emotional view on whether this is the right thing for me right now.
    I do feel guilty even thinking about leaving… I guess because he never seems to reflect the doubts that I have and he always tell me that he wouldn’t be able to live without me.
    I am also scared about the prospect of ‘starting over’.
    I am planning to take some time away just to have the opportunity to try and see things through a clearer lens… I am working my way towards talking to him about this.
    Thank you again for your time and words x

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