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  • #373146
    Oceandrive24
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    Dear Anita..

    I have done some research into DBT and from what I understand DBT is a type of talking therapy based on CBT but specially adapted for those who feel emotions very intensely. The aim of DBT is to understandand and accept difficult feelings, learn the skills to manage them, and become able to make positive changes in your life.‘ Dialectical’ means trying to understand how two things that seem opposite could both be true.

    I can see how this would be helpful for my son, but the barrier he has is engaging with people other than immediate family. He literally avoids other people. He has so far refused to engage with professionals who he has been referred to making it exceedingly difficult to access help, support, therapy/treatment. So I am effectively on my own in trying to help and support him. I really don’t know how to reach him to be able to help/support him and I feel at a complete loss..

    #373147
    Anonymous
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    Dear Oceandrive24:

    It’s a tough one. If he met the right professional for him, someone with just the right attitude, someone who would have neutralize your son’s alarm about meeting new people- that would be a wonderful thing, but it didn’t happen. I figure that the reason he engages with immediate family (you and his brother) from time to time is because immediate family is always there around him, and his father is there when he visits with him,  so from time to time he ends up engaging with the people who are there in proximity to him.

    If he had professional always around him, I bet he would have engaged with them once in a while.

    Because he experienced repeated frustration with you regarding being understood, I figure your best bet is to no longer ask him the same/ similar questions, to no longer address the same issues in the same ways with him, but do something different, something in the context of play/ a game. Is there a game the two of you can play together, anything from a board game like monopoly to an interactive computer game that you are comfortable playing with him?

    anita

    #373152
    Oceandrive24
    Participant

    I think your right, had he have had a professional around him all the time he would have probably engaged with them by now.

    I was just a short while ago thinking about how else I might connect with my son, he enjoys playing a game on his console called Minecraft which I sometimes join him with. He also likes to play a game called House Flipper, and away from the console he likes to play poker. He likes to watch certain programmes on TV too, and is also showing an interest in painting and decorating, so I was thinking that may be other ways to connect.

    #373153
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Oceandrive24:

    I agree with you, these are the ways to connect with him, I see no other ways but to play with him- playing is how he relieves his stress. The lower his stress- the more he is available to connect. (Talking about his OCD, about anxiety- that’s just going to elevate his stress, which will cause him to shut down).

    anita

    #376980
    Anonymous
    Guest

    How are you, Oceandrive24

    anita

    #377046
    Oceandrive24
    Participant

    Hi Anita. Thanks for thinking of me. I am well thank you. I have been connecting with my son through playing on his XBox with him which has led to conversations away from the XBox. Sometimes he chats about the here and now and sometimes about the past and how he’s felt in certain situations or places. I let him do the talking and I listen and don’t ask questions but say something like, ‘so it sounds like that was hard for you to hear that…’ etc.

    On the friendship front I became aware that he wanted more than friendship and despite my actually telling him I’m definitely not interested in a relationship, and taking a step back, he continues to pursue more than friendship which is beginning to feel uncomfortable.

    Thanks again for thinking of me.

     

     

     

     

     

    #377047
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Oceandrive24:

    You are welcome, good to read from you again! I am pleased to read how well you are communicating with your son, reads perfect to me. Your son is fortunate to have you!

    Regarding the  man, you wrote: “despite my actually telling him I’m definitely not interested in a relationship, and taking a step back, he continues to pursue more than a friendship which is beginning to feel uncomfortable”-

    – I don’t remember you being definite that you are not interested in a relationship with him- you being definite about it happened after we communicated last, in January, I am guessing. What specifically in his behaviors or words makes you uncomfortable (if you would like to share)?

    anita

    #377063
    Oceandrive24
    Participant

    Thank you, it has taken alot of work on my part with regards to my son, in how I was addressing the situation. Less questioning has led to more understanding.

    Yes, my being definate happened around mid February. Having reached a point of familiarisation of one another e.g. short life history etc.. I began to notice that when in conversation he shuts the conversation down if the subject matter isn’t of interest to him.. which frequently means him saying.. ‘right that’s enough of that subject, let’s talk about something else’.. yet when talking about subject matter of his own, conversation flows until he’s exhausted it. So I feel like I’ve not got anything useful to talk about.. some closed down subjects such as when talking about children (he doesn’t have children) the shut down response was ‘well that’s enough about that they’re mostly all brats anyway’.. and when talking about mental health/therapy (he asked how my boys were).. ‘well Psychology, counselling and all that, it’s all a bunch of codswallop, they don’t know what they’re talking about. Your son is just going through a phase like all teenagers’.. These are the two that have stuck in my mind.

    And then things like.. I was talking about something daft I’d done during the week and he said ‘that was a bit silly, it’s just as well I like you’. I respond that yes it was a clumsy thing to do, and he looked at me and said ‘no, your supposed to say, well I like you too’, to which I didn’t respond and he said in a mock hurt way ‘she doesn’t like me’.

    A text message asking how my day had been to which I responded it had been nice and I’d been doing some gardening, and I asked how his day was.. his reply was ‘its nice to be wanted!’, to which I could see no relation to the response I’d sent, so I sent back ‘?’ then he replied, ‘you run a taxi service’.. I wasn’t sure where this was going so I asked ‘I run a taxi service?’, and he said ‘you run mums taxi’. He then messaged with ‘same shit different day’ and asked my plans over the weekend which I relayed back, and asked what he was going to do over the weekend. His response was ‘tart the house up a bit, tank modelling, TV, and elevating feet.. open to suggestions after that?’.

    It feels like he’s trying to pressure me to invite him to meet up, he’s not once asked if I’d like to go for a walk/cuppa etc despite my saying way back, ‘you can ask me if I’m free and if I’d like to go for a walk/cuppa, I won’t always say yes but that doesn’t mean you can’t ask’. He instead bombards me with texts throughout the week and beats about the bush waiting to be invited/asked out for a walk etc.

    It’s uncomfortable I think because with all my other friends some text once a month/every few months and we arrange to meet up for a long walk etc, some text once a week just to check in/catch up, and some I speak to over the phone or facetime once every few months. So I find this guy overwhelming and not particularly on my wavelength hence my stepping back.

    I know I probably sound quite cruel in stepping away, but I don’t really feel particularly free to talk or heard within this friendship. I appreciate he may be feeling lonely living alone, with no family nearby, but I don’t wish to be the security blanket so to speak. Again sorry if that sounds harsh.. we really don’t know someone until you take the time to get to know them and although they may play a part in your life, sometimes they’re not always meant to stay in it?

    #377066
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Oceandrive24:

    You are welcome and thank you for caring to be a better parent and for accomplishing it with a lot of work. I wish more parents had this motivation and willingness to do the work.

    The guy’s comments about children, “they’re mostly brats anyway”, and regarding your son, “Your son is just going through a phase like all teenagers” are more than adequate, valid reasons, to be “definitely not interested in a relationship, and step back”, and to not allow him any access to your teenage sons.

    Although more reasons to step away from him are not needed, he provided them anyway, particularly, (1) closing conversations on topics that interest you while going on and on about topics that interest him, (2) judging a clumsy behavior on your part , “that was a bit silly, it’s just as well I like you”, (3) telling you what you are supposed to say to him instead of what you just said, “no, you’re supposed to say, well I like you too”, and more.

    “I know I probably sound quite cruel in stepping away… sorry if that sounds harsh”- not at all cruel or harsh to step away from him, it’s the right and wise thing to do.

    “we really don’t know someone until you take the time to get to know them and although they may play a part in your life, sometimes they’re not always meant to stay in it?”- I agree and he is definitely is not meant to stay in your life!

    anita

     

    #377149
    Oceandrive24
    Participant

    Many thanks for listening Anita, much appreciated.

    I’ve slowly stepped away from him by reducing the amount of contact I have with him. I saw him when I was out walking a couple of times this week and I stopped briefly to chat. He texted a couple of times this week and I’ve responded, but I’ve not initiated contact. I appreciate it may hurt his feelings by my gradually stepping away, but I’ve tried to be a friend and to made it clear to him I am just a friend, and he has chosen not to hear me and his behaviour signals that he is wanting more than friendship and more attention and time than I feel comfortable in offering. However, I need to do what’s best for me and and my boys and I need friendships that are nurturing and supportive and not draining, pressurising or demanding.

    I always find it difficult to walk away from what does not serve me best in life, but at the same time I know when it is the right thing for me to do.

    Thanks again for listening 🙂

     

    #377156
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Oceandrive24:

    I will read and reply to you in about 12 hours from now.

    anita

    #377188
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Oceandrive24:

    You are very welcome, anytime you post- I will read/ listen.

    Good to read this: (1) “I need to do what’s best for me and my boys”, (2) “I need friendships that are nurturing and supportive and not draining, pressurising or demanding”, and (3) that you are doing what’s right for you and your boys even though it is difficult to do.

    The title of your thread chosen on Jan 7, regarding this man is: “Was I wrong to offer friendship.. feeling I’ve done wrong”. What you learned since is that not only a relationship with him is the wrong choice, but also a friendship: “to walk away from (him) .. is the right thing for me to  do”, April 3.

    anita

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