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October 18, 2017 at 10:09 am #173737AuraParticipant
Hello friends, I am new here but I loved the look of the community and I think the articles posted are very good and insighful. I would like opinions from you, specially since we are strangers, on this delicate topic. Let’s get started, I’m sorry if this gets a little long.
When I was 18 (over 7 years ago) I began dating a guy, an artist with whom I had a lot of fun with, but our relationship was full of tempest, since we were not on the same page about nearly anything: ambitions, life goals, marriage, politics, social injustice, drugs, religion, family, sex, money, you name it. My family hated him, and whenever they talked about it I knew deep inside that many things were wrong, even if I defended him. It was all doomed to fail but I still dated him for nearly 5 years. Fortunately this episode is over, I’m totally healed, but I’m telling you this background because I think I learnt from it and it made me sensible to asking the right questions.
A year later, I began dating my now fiance. Due to all the time, all the things that had happened to me with my ex, I was really not for losing time and I cared about the important questions. I think we asked each other all of these ideological-related and future-oriented questions on the second week of dating, and realized we were on the same page, with a few, complementary rather than destructive differences. Not only this, but we also had a lot of tastes in common, so conversation was always flowing, non stop, and I would always be impatient to see him the next week, even if we texted all day long, all week. We told each other secrets that we had told nobody before and emotional intimacy grew amazingly fast. Needless to say, I fell in love. We saw each other for three months before entering a relationship, which lasted a year before engagement: a year in which I saw him get a promotion, a new car, travel for work, I met and fell in love with his family, I saw him open about his feelings regarding his differences with his work mates. He saw me quit my abusive job and decide to pursue my dream profession in spite of the finances, he supported me during my uncle’s death, he met my family, and saw me try new fronteers in my post universtiy studies. We have nurtured each others’ minds by, and we are smarter an more mature than before we dated. Every month, for a year, we would celebrate little things.
I’ll tell you an important cultural parentheses: I am Mexican, and you might have already heard, that family matters a lot in our culture (to an unhealthy point even, in my opinion). A lot of people are still very traditional and grooms ask the family for approval before asking the girl if she would like to be married. When my family met my man, back when we were dating, they loved him. They told me we were perfect together and that they hoped this relationship would evolve into a marriage later on. My mother would joke telling me I should start looking for a wedding dress. My family is a very jealous one, I have three sisters and none of us had ever brought home a man that my parents liked.
Things radically changed after engagement. My man did not do the traditional protocol, he decided to propose me with a beautiful sapphire ring he had designed on his own for over 6 months… but he did not tell my parents first. When we went home to tell my parents, they were dead silent. After this, there’s been a huge wave of negative feedback from my mother:
That it’s too soon to get married. That he’s too short and ugly for me. (we are the same height). That I don’t really know him yet. That he did engagement all wrong. That his family is too poor. (I’m upper middle class, his family is solid middle class… but his income is above his father’s). That she was going to need “professional help” because she could not let her daughter leave like that…hell, even told me our horoscopes don’t match.
She managed it now, she managed to get to me, and I’m starting to have doubts about my engagement and future wedding. I feel unexcited. I hate parties, and I absolutely hate hosting and planning them… so it was no news to me that the party was not going to excite me, but I was once excited by our future together, and now I’m starting to doubt it. His height, something that did not matter to me before, now bugs me to the point I stopped wearing heels. His family, which I loved, now seems like too humble to me. I start to feel like there might be something better for me out there, and I feel horrible, because I was always the girl who believed in love in spite of looks, in spite of money. This goes totally against what I’ve believed all my life and I can’t believe it got under my skin.
During university, I used to have a therapist and she told me my relationship to my mother was a bit unhealthy, because she’s manipulative and I like pleasing her a bit too much, to the point I confuse her desires with my own. I remember having a very similar issue when choosing my major. I’m wondering now if it’s me doubting my love, or if it’s my stupid mind being manipulated by my mother, like it’s always been.
This guy is truly the nicest, most patient man I’ve met, rivaled only by my own father. He understands me to a level I thought impossible, and he has absolutely never let me down. He’s been there every time I needed, from being a crying shoulder to literally getting me food when I can’t get anything at work. Every time we’ve had a disagreement (althought they’ve been all small), he’s always open to listen and improve, and he really does it. He was financially supportive when I quit my job. He always tries to make me laugh and smile, and his life goals involve me in every beautiful way. He’s not perfect: he cries, he breaks sometimes. He doesn’t always eat healthy and he wakes up very late on Saturdays. He has a weird laugh sometimes, he’s not the definition of masculine.
But even so, I really wonder if I will ever find this type of connection again if we break up. To be honest I feel like his imperfections are not a big deal, but his good things are amazing. I know he’s in love with me and everyone around can tell it too. He doesn’t even turn his head at the sight of a pretty girl when we’re out. I feel like I’m being unfair to him by being this unexcited, and I feel like I should break up, but I can’t help feeling I might be losing a treasure and making possibly the worst mistake in my life. HELP.
October 18, 2017 at 11:24 am #173743RoxParticipantHi Aura,
My mom would always tell me this ” finding a good man is like winning the lottery, it is nearly impossible”. I have dated my share of amazing man and my share of assholes. Don’t get stuck in the idea that there is something better out there for you. What matters, is that you love him. If you love him, fight for the love you have for him. I feel like a lot of the emotions that you are feeling, are due to what your mom has said about him. I am like that too- if someone says negative things about someone that I am dating, I will soon start to believe them- specially if their opinions matter to me. So my questions to you are as follow: Does he make you happy? Can you imagine living life without him?
Love is soooooo much more than physical appearance. I rather be with a man that is not the best looking out there but that treats me like a queen. I now appreciate a good man because I dated assholes so be careful in your decision.
I wish you all the best!
Rox
October 18, 2017 at 12:47 pm #173777AnonymousGuestDear Aura:
You wrote: “My family is a very jealous one, I have three sisters and none of us had ever brought home a man that my parents liked”- and so it goes, four sisters who didn’t bring home a man (your mother) liked. Well, she liked him at first, but she corrected herself.
He reads like a loving, wonderful man. Your thinking and going about this relationship, the way you proceeded, taking your time, asking the questions, noticing all that you have, all are reasonable and quite impressive, if I may say so.
Unfortunately, what a girl’s mother thinks is so important to a girl, and the girl in you, that child that is in you (aka inner child) cares so much, that the importance of what I type here, of what anyone shares with you, pales in comparison, pales by a whole lot.
For a child, a little girl, there is no difference between herself and her mother, the two are one, a unit. With functional maturing, the girl separates from the mother. What you are experiencing is a going back to that unit. The answer, of course, is in reestablishing the separation that you did achieve, the undoing of the blur.
If such is not possible, this separation from her, mentally, then a marriage will not be fair to him.
It may be time for quality psychotherapy. If your mother continues with her negative and unreasonable input regarding this planned marriage, I do not see how you can establish and maintain the separation I am talking about. If she doesn’t change her input, and you keep hearing it, keep receiving it, your mental health is at great risk as well as a marriage with him, if it is to materialize.
If you keep contact with your mother and she continues to give her input regarding this man and the marriage with him, then your marriage and your emotional health are in trouble.
If she wouldn’t stop all of her input regarding this man and the marriage, all negative or positive input (at this point I don’t see how the latter can be trustworthy), then I think that the following choice is in front of you: end the relationship, cancel the wedding or cut all contact with your mother/ all contact that will deliver to you her input and resurrect the wonderful relationship you had and get married.
anita
October 18, 2017 at 2:09 pm #173787MelissaParticipantAura,
I like Anita’s sentiments and I want to add a few more questions for reflection.
1) Imagine your mom’s opinion did not make you look at your fiance any differently, what would you do then?
I read this article here on tinybuddha recently. https://tinybuddha.com/blog/3-ways-to-decide-whose-opinion-of-you-matters/. It may be helpful to you. It asks questions to clarify if you should actually accept the opinion being offered.
2) Why is your only option to get married or breakup?
If your fiance is as kind, thoughtful and loving as you say, I would hope he would be open to extending your engagement for you to work through your issues with your mom and to work through the thoughts she has planted in your head. This give you and he more time to work through this together, possibly building stronger bonds.
2) How heavily is your dislike of parties weighing on your decision?
While I understand the expectation to have a big wedding (I am also from a Mexican family) I also understand that some of us do not desire to have one, plan one or be the center of attention. Please know that there are alternatives to a big celebration that still allow you to celebrate with those you love.
One option is to have a very small ceremony with just those few people who are important enough to you to have them there. Then have smaller get togethers with groups of people that either really want to celebrate with you or you want to celebrate with. My husband and I did this and it was perfect. We got married in a small ceremony with just our moms in attendance (both our dad’s have passed) and then we had several smaller get togethers, for cake, or dinner (but always champagne)- with different parts of each of our families, with different groups of friends-all without us having to plan- we simply told people that we would celebrate with them the next time we were going to see them. It created a reason to spend time with people we loved and we had 5 cakes and more champagne that we could count.
Of course you don’t have to do it like we did, but understand there are other options than a big wedding, even in a mexican family.
I hope you come to find some peace with your mom and are able to accept that the best part of your fiance far outweigh the things your mom is finding to criticize.
Melissa
October 18, 2017 at 4:48 pm #173795AuraParticipantDear Anita, thank you for your honest and insightful reply. I regret stopping my therapy back in university, my lack of dissociation from my mother is quite in fact the problem the therapist mentionned to be the most important one I had to work on. I feel like my man is not the problem, it’s the fact that, whichever man I bring into the family could take me to an unhappy relationship and even marriage if I never establish the limits.
I think the wisest and less impulsive choice will be to ask my fiance for time, take a step back so I can work on this issue, and go back to psychotherapy. As for now, you and Melissa gave me a lot of information to start my mental journey and I can already feel some peace and hope after this peril.
October 18, 2017 at 4:55 pm #173797AuraParticipantDear Melissa, thanks for your insight as well, it is very understanding of my current situation. I think I was going too extreme by thinking in marriage or breakup, talking to a friend today and reading all the replies here has given me some light and I think what I need is time to work on myself. In the end, the problem is me – my fiance did not change, he’s still the guy I fell in love with and more, and my mother’s opinions are just that, but I’m taking them too deeply.
Thanks also for the article- I’ll be sure to give it a read and meditate on it!
October 19, 2017 at 9:34 am #173869AnonymousGuestDear Aura:
You are welcome. Regarding your aim to “establish the limits” with your mother, I think one such limit would be for her to give you no input whatsoever about your boyfriend/ husband to be and about your marriage to be (or not to be). Any input from her, I think, will undo future progress in therapy.
Post again if you’d like, any time.
anita
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