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May 19, 2015 at 11:59 am #76951KatherineParticipant
When I met my police officer fiancé 3 years ago I was in awe with how calm and logical he was. He didn’t seem to have the emotional highs and lows that I and other people I’ve met often deal with. I constantly examen my thoughts and feelings and am always evaluating my life. It can be mentally exhausting at times. However, I love having deep conversations with friends and find that I get a lot of positive energy from discussing emotions.
Now that I am engaged and am evaluating my new ‘forever’ I have become increasingly aware that my fiancé is not emotional. He is kind to me, respectful and says he loves me, however, I have never seen him upset or even very excited. He lives in a neutral state. He only talks when there is something that needs to be discussed but never ‘just because’. He doesn’t need my opinion on anything unless it relates specifically to us. When we got engaged I expected an emotional outpour and tears of joy but on his end he looked happy…but that was it.
This may sound dramatic but this one-sided lack of communication, in an otherwise perfect relationship, is making me question whether I see him as someone I want to share my life with.
May 19, 2015 at 3:05 pm #76963AnonymousGuestWHether you share your life with him- that is a topic to evaluate and talk about. You do evaluate and talk about much smaller issues than the choosing of your mate-for-life, so i am not surprised you want to evaluate this huge issue. When you brought it up to him, telling him you view him as neutral and asking him to tell you more about his subjective emotional experience, his subjective inner emotional experience that he may not express but feel— what did he say???
anita
May 19, 2015 at 4:08 pm #76965KatherineParticipantI have brought this up many times. He said he’s never been much of a talker and tends to just think things through himself. He said he will make an effort to tell me what he’s thinking more, which he has, but it’s never of personal nature. I find it odd that he doesn’t self-reflect or even want to delve into my thoughts at all. He will sit and listen to me discuss something I’m passionate for hours but isn’t inquisitive – he doesn’t ask questions or get into the discussion. Even when we got engaged, I pictured this greatly emotional experience filled with extreme joy – it seemed like it was any other good day to him.
He could spend hours learning something new or how to fix anything, but has zero interest in his emotional or mental well-being.
Is this simply a quirk or a red flag? I am otherwise happy, I am just severely lacking the emotional connection I get from many relationships.May 19, 2015 at 5:31 pm #76967SuedeaniParticipantRun. I have had 19 years of this.
May 19, 2015 at 5:45 pm #76971May 19, 2015 at 5:59 pm #76972AnonymousGuestDear katherine:
This makes me wonder. I self reflect a lot and i am curious about other people and what make them tic. From your short description of your fiance i acn guess all kinds of things but they will be only guesses. I am sure you know, as one who reflects, that he is very, very unlikely to change. Why would he? The way he is – is working for him. Did you or are you expecting him to change? If you examine yourself deeply, on some deep level, did you or do you expect him to change? Or even hope he will?If you do, what if he does not change (99.999% he does not, my estimation)- will you be able to live with him? Will you want to live with him?
If you need a reflecting man in your life, that kind of emotional connection, WHY will you compromise with one who is not?
I cannot go on with my reply without knowing the answers to these.
take care:
anitaMay 19, 2015 at 10:13 pm #76989PathOfPeaceParticipantHow long has he been on the force? I worked with police for several years and learned a lot. Because of the job, you pretty much have to shut off your emotions. BUT because of this, when you return home you cant turn them back on again….its a bad way for sure. They see so much terrible things that if you kept your emotions going on the job you would break.
Now, on the other hand….if he was always like this before even being a police officer then you might want to really think this one over. Someone with that kind of….lack of may kill your side of Good emotions over time.
“When a rotted apple is put in a basket with a dozen healthy apples the rotten apple doesnt become healthy. It rots the other apples”-Unknown
May 20, 2015 at 4:04 am #76992KatherineParticipant@anita I don’t think I expect him to change, I understand this is who he is. I think I was looking for some insight into how this way of thinking may have a positive side or that not everyone has to analyze every aspect of life the way many of us do. I often think the way I think and my need to talk it out can actually be detrimental at times.
@thethinker2015 – he has always been this way. He said he’s always just dealt with any issue in life by himself and doesn’t feel the need to consult other people. He’s very confident in his decisions. I should emphasize he treats me well, does nice things, just does not really express his feeling about me or life.May 20, 2015 at 6:58 am #76999AnonymousGuestDear Katherine:
I re-read your posts and typed here what you wrote: (He is…)
* Calm, logical, no emotional highs or lows, never upset or very excited.
* Kind, resepectful, says he loves me… treats me well, does nice things
* Discusses only what needs to be discussed, not ‘just because’… not self reflective…does not really express his feeling about me or life…will listen to me for hours but is not inquisitive, does not ask questions
* ‘Thinks things through himself, not much of a talker… he’s always just dealt with any issue in life by himself and doesn’t feel the need to consult other people. He’s very confident in his decisions.
* Has zero interest in his emotional or mental well-being.
*… I am otherwise happy, I am just severely lacking the emotional connection I get from many relationships.
*… insight into how this way of thinking may have a positive side or that not everyone has to analyze every aspect of life the way many of us do. I often think the way I think and my need to talk it out can actually be detrimental at times.My input today: If I was you I would see a good psychotherapist for this very purpose: to decide on the future of this relationship. There is MORE here than can be solved in this forum. Having said that, let me see what comes up in my brain as it does:
1. I noticed you used the words “always” and “never” when you describe him, this is pretty extreme- is he really always this way and never that way- or is it your always and never thinking (a thinking distortion “all or nothing”), I wonder.
2. You wrote he has “zero interest in his emotional or mental well being”. Again there is the ZERO, an all or nothing thing. Then, in this very statement I sense anger on your part. Do you agree? If so, there really is a need to seek good counseling before marrying him, if you do. See, I disagree that he has zero interest in his emotional well being EVEN THOUGH I don’t know him at all. This statement I quoted here is loaded, I believe.It suggests he does not have emotional/ mental well being. It suggests he is careless or neglectful about his (and yours?) mental well being, an accusation, a disapproval on your part.
3. Telling as well is the last quote: “I think and my need to talk it out can actually be detrimental at times.” How detrimental, I wonder. What is the nature of your distress? Do you envy his apparent lack of distress? Again, what is the nature of your distress- what is going on with you, inside? Before you met him…???anita
May 20, 2015 at 9:26 am #77015HilaryParticipantKatherine,
It’s funny I stumbled upon this post… I deal with the same thing myself and it used to really bother me. I used to question our relationship but I actually haven’t thought about it in a while. I am not engaged yet, but am in a 2+ year relationship, and like you, I am always thinking (often over-thinking) my thoughts and actions, as well as other peoples thoughts and actions. While this introverted quality of his used to get to me (I used to spend hours researching introverts and how to deal with them) when I stopped worrying about it, everything worked itself out. I now realize how well we balance each other out. I’ve brought out the best in him, allowing him to be himself and sometimes let out his goofy side, and he has brought out a much more introverted side of me that I now love! I understand that our brains work differently and I often reach out to my family and friends when I want to deeply connect and talk about what’s on my over-analytic mind. It’s allowed me to form relationships outside of ours that I probably wouldn’t have made if I had a partner that talked about everything that I wanted to. I look forward to seeing what qualities our kids will carry on. Whether they’ll me like him, me or an equal split of both 🙂
In short, look at this as an opportunity. He was placed in your life for a reason and it’s something you can learn and grow from. In the end, whether you decide to marry him or not is up to you. I challenge you to look at your relationship in a new way and maybe form some new relationships to meet your emotional needs. Research introverts as well;)! You’ll learn alot about how wonderful they can be.Best of luck! Everything will work out in the end, I promise!
May 20, 2015 at 2:52 pm #77029KatherineParticipant@anita – when I say “always” or “never” I do mean that. He has zero interest analyzing his brain or how it works. He’s content with life and takes it at face value where I am not like that. Again, I am not angry, just simply trying to understand the pros and cons of this type of person. I am not sure whether I am apprehensive simply because it is different than my own way of thinking. When I said “my own way of thinking can be detrimental”, I mean simply because I spend a lot of time over-thinking different situations in my life. I think how I could have been better, what my life goals are, how I can achieve them, how I am feeling, and just anything I can get my brain going on 😉
@hmgale – thank you so much for sharing your personal experience. I agree wholeheartedly with your comments and they’ve actually given me a positive new perspective. Is your partner also relatively unemotional? Do you ever find it hard to share experiences when he doesn’t verbalize how he feels?
I think there is something to be said for having a “yin yang” type of relationship. I just wasn’t sure if that inability to connect with our partners on our over-analytical thoughts was something to be concerned about. I felt we should be able to connect on every single topic and level. Perhaps that’s unrealistic? Sounds like from your experience it’s not something to be concerned about. 🙂May 20, 2015 at 8:27 pm #77043florafaunaParticipantI was in a very very similar sounding relationship for 4.5 years. It was a bit different as we were trying out polyamoury, so the lack of ability to communicate emotions on his part was actually incredibly detrimental. It’s only been a year since we broke up, so I still have lots of feels.
Here are a few things I wish someone had encouraged me to think about earlier in the relationship as it pertains to what you’ve shared:
>What do I NEED in a relationship? Specifically, you addressed that you have emotional connections elsewhere. Does that feel good? Or do you need specific things, such as sharing openly emotions, from your partner? Sometimes it can be all well and fine to have the idea of “well this friendship serves this need, and this one serves this one” and that can work. And it might not. So deciding that is huge.
>Whatever you decide is a need in a relationship is ABSOLUTELY VALID. It is perfectly okay to recognize things like needing that emotional sharing in a life partner. For some people, they don’t need that. I know that I absolutely need that and I spent a lot of time trying to talk myself out of that perspective and shaming myself for not just being able to accept it. It’s hard to validate our needs in a relationship, especially in the context where “everything feels fine.” except for this REALLYBIG thing.I also spent a lot of time thinking things like, “hmm, if I just do this or that differently. If I wasn’t so xyz demanding. If I wasn’t so emotional. If if if…” which ended up with me just feeling resentful of him and also myself.
I would echo sentiments of talking to someone with some schooling behind them about it. I think it speaks a lot that you are identifying this, and clearly concerned, via posting it for feedback.
you’re amazing. don’t forget it.
May 21, 2015 at 3:35 am #77047AllisonParticipantRun. Don’t walk away, run. Run calmly and definitively. Run without stressing out…but go, now. There are guys who enjoy conversing for the sake of conversing, there are men who are introspective, and while this man’s qualities make him a great officer of the law…from what you have shared it does NOT make him a good match for you.
Your happiness will be askew if you do not stay true to you.
It’s better to have six months of sadness than a lifetime of regret.
May 21, 2015 at 7:26 am #77059HilaryParticipantKatherine,
I do find it hard sometimes when I tell him what’s on my mind and all I get is a monotone “Yeah…” or “It’ll be ok…” I often get jealous of my friends because I know they can talk about emotional stuff with their boyfriends for hours and I don’t have that deep level connection, but there are so many other things that I do love and he shows his love non-verbally. We love to just cuddle and feel each other’s closeness, and he is always good about getting me flowers and expressing his love with a simple “I love you”. I now love that we can sit in silence and not have to blabber on about pointless things and he loves that I don’t sit and gossip and complain like most of my girl friends. When we do have conversations and he does open up to me about a stressful day or something, I make sure and support what he says 100%, make sure not to judge, and enjoy every minute of his openness. Connecting on deep levels is unrealistic knowing the type of person your dealing with. Try not to over-think this. Find the positives in your partner and focus on those. Hearing these comments saying “Run” makes even me question my relationship again, so I have to remember how much I love him in so many other ways. This is ultimately your decision so no one here can tell you to stay or run. I deal with the same issues, but he is also VERY kind, loving, generous person that I can’t wait to share kids and my life with. We had a talk about communication when we first started dating, and we still struggle with it today. But it’s worth working on, and your fiance has to be willing to work on it too if it’s bugging you that badly. Be proactive and be sure that it’s something you’re willing to be with forever. Don’t stress about it, it only makes things worse! I too am guilty of over-thinking this, but like I said, before I saw this post I completely forgot we even had this issue, haha. Have another talk with him about your communication, tell him it’s been on your mind, feel things out these next couple days/weeks/months and go from there. See if things improve!
May 21, 2015 at 7:38 am #77060AnonymousGuestDear katherine:
I read your original post, the after post and others’ replies to yours. I believe that the answer is in you, one for you to draw out: is it okay for you, good- enough for you to live with this man in a lifetime commitment situation, marriage? Is it good ENOUGH for you, is the question. This is a highly personal question. The answer is not in the intellect alone. It is IMPOSSIBLE to figure this question out using the rational mind alone. Impossible. The answer has to come from the rational mind AND the emotional mind. The conviction you are looking for, that knowing-for-sure, you will not find it in any other way. You wrote that you reflect a lot but maybe you got stuck in rational- only reflection.I have no doubt that it is not a good idea to marry this guy for as long as you are not absolutely sure, and feeling sure and calm about marrying him the way he is, expecting him to continue to be himself and being okay with it. If you marry him otherwise, you will not only harm yourself but you will be harming him, being unfair to him. If you marry him, you have no right to complain after you marry him about the way he is, as if it was news to you. He is not pretending to be anything he is not… accept him or leave him, don’t marry him and then give him the message, again and again, that he is not okay. Let him marry a woman who accepts him the way he is, be it you- or someone else.
I hope you connect- with help or not- with the emotional part of you, one knowing your needs, and find out within yourself what is right for you.
Take care:
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