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January 15, 2019 at 11:47 am #274731VictoriaParticipant
Good Evening everyone,
I am really struggling to keep up with this conversation at the moment. I’m sorry about this, so I have read through the messages and will try to response with a general response.
In terms of advice for anxiety I can recommend a CBT (cognitive behavioural therapy) workbook, you in theory should work through it with a therapist but it is a good flick through if you are feeling panicky. For example, the other day my brain told me naturally “you cant do this” and there was a page in there that gave me a diagram of what exactly was happening and it helped me re-frame my mindset.
I have been having terrible anxiety on an evening now but I am also trying to ignore my emotions for the time being, I need to be logical atm.
In terms of men being maybe less emotional and going out with their mates, getting with others. I think that alot of that is distraction. I too have been on tinder for about five minutes then messaged everyone a polite message telling everyone that I am not interested and I hope they find what they are looking for.
I hope the pregnancy is a success (:
Truthfully I have no interest in meeting someone new, however, I am finding myself being rather isolated so a date is at least a social event I can attend lol
Currently I feel like it is natural for me to skyping or messaging my ex, and some days I can fill that space by reading or just focusing on what I am doing, other days I really want to message him.
However, I have come to a recent conclusion that I am happy being on my own, however as I moved into his that was my “home” so now I feel like I’m going to be homeless (even though I am aware that is anxiety talking).
I hope everyone is doing ok this evening (:
– V
January 16, 2019 at 3:28 am #274853KkasxoParticipantShelby,
Woah when you say it like that, it’s been 7 months since we originally split! :O I am in shock… I am sitting here thinking we are only at the beginning of the journey (probably because of all the times we tried to reconcile). Shocking! I have spent the last 7 months of my life absolutely sulking, hurting and going in no particular direction. That’s very very sad.
The thing that really annoyed me about the message he sent to my friend is 1.) Who do you think you are texting my friends our personal business? Although yes she knows but still! You shouldn’t bother others with your business! And 2.) he wrote her a long, heartfelt message about how much he misses me, how he knows he hurt me deeply and needs advice on how to proceed as he can’t seem to get through to me.. But he hasn’t once initiated such meaningful/ heartfelt communication with me? Yes he has text me, he has reached out but not at one point has he wrote to me a heartfelt long message, or even requested that we meet to talk so he can tell me all those things in person? So that’s really annoying.
I remember you mentioned that you wanted to leave your job last year. Any further thoughts on that? Have you had a look around to see what you might potentially be able to get into? It is important to look for a placement which opens up your opportunities to become more independent, living away from home, funding the travelling that you want to do eventually etc!
Victoria – Hey! I wouldn’t worry too much about trying to catch up with the conversation, SOOOO much has happened since you’ve been away! I think in a nutshell, Shelby is doing fantastic (though she may not see this yet ;)) and I am down in the gutter having walked away from my ex AGAIN! I found a quote yesterday that said ‘There is two types of tired, one where you require sleep and the other when you require peace’ and I really felt that. To keep you updated, I am on day 7 of absolutely no contact whatsoever with my ex and I am doing better than I thought – I say this with my full rational mind in play. Best to check on this again in the next couple of hours haha!
Thank you for providing some insight into how you’ve been dealing with anxiety. I have definitely done a load of reading into it too as yesterday was terrible! Thankfully, I am feeling better today, no heart palpitations, success!
Try not to worry too much about your ex, your living situation etc! Everything WILL fall into place. You really just have to make a conscious choice to change your life for the better. Whether it is taking up the placement you recently mentioned, moving away from him or your mother who you have mentioned before, you really have to do what’s best for your mental health right now. You sound a lot like me in the way that you are tired now. Exhausted from all of the up and down. This isn’t happy. This isn’t what happy is supposed to look like! I am counting down to the days when were all back here telling one another about how wonderful and blissfully happy our lives have become!
How are you ladies doing today?
January 16, 2019 at 6:07 am #274891ShelbyvilleParticipantHi Kkasxo,
Thank you for saying I’m doing well. I guess I’m definitely doing better than when I started this thread and for that I am grateful. I definitely have no impetus to contact my ex right now. I often think about it and then a ‘meh’ feeling comes over me and I don’t bother. So hang in there, when the brain chemistry withdrawal eases off after the initial no contact period, it does seem to get easier and be less of a battle. But in fairness it’s taken me almost 4 months to get here. I still miss him, but the memories are not in HD now, our wonderful little brains protecting us again I guess, they fuzz out the painful memories to give us breathing space!
The most exciting thing happening to me at the moment is I got a 100+ word on Words with Friends. Oh dear…..this is my life now. Lovely! Ugh.
You’re doing really well, taking it each day at a time and before you know it, it’ll be Feb 2 or 3rd and you’ll have survived another hurdle.
I think your ex doesn’t know what to say to you tbh, he’s gauging it as best he can, so doesn’t want to pour his heart out to you by Text and not get a reply. I’d imagine that would hit him hard, so he’s hedging his bets with your friend. But yes, bad decision on his part! I couldn’t imagine reaching out to my ex’s bestie, what’s between us is between us.
Victoria,
I think you have moved along the process. You have reached a conclusion you are happier on your own right now. That is a great piece of insight. It doesn’t mean you will always feel that way, but perhaps it will give you some direction to move forward now and not get as anxious about decision making? I hope so.
I am off work today and just finished the grocery shop and while lots of chores demand my attention, I have been so tired lately, I intend to try and do as little as possible today!
Any plans for later?
January 16, 2019 at 6:30 am #274901KkasxoParticipantShelby,
You are indeed doing very well and although I am further in my journey than you (7 months) I feel miles behind because of the uncertainty, confusion and the up and down of it all! I suppose that’s all down to us ‘trying’ time and time again since the split so it’s like starting over every time. Both you and your ex have been quite good at no contact from the start though, although you had intense feelings of needing to contact him you managed to hold out most of the time which is incredible and I believe has made this easier for you in the long run. Definitely something that both me and my ex have a difficulty with, evidently..
He probably doesn’t know what to say because he knows that there isn’t much to say to make any of what is happening remotely okay. I am really evaluating every aspect of the relationship now and he knows that it is not just about forgiveness or moving forward anymore. He knows that I am analysing and essentially breaking apart everything that wasn’t working in the relationship to begin with and it is making me realise that the only reason I am holding on is because I love him, nothing else. He probably cant do the same because he isn’t the one who sacrificed three years of his life holding on to a relationship that ultimately wasn’t fulfilling his needs, I was. This scares him. He knows that if he could say/do anything to draw me back to him it would have to be everything that was missing; i.e building trust again, prioritising me and only me, seriously progressing in the relationship etc.
Some of my bits for the 1st of Feb should be arriving this week. I feel a slight ease knowing that our accommodation is booked and I am well prepared for the day weeks ahead meaning I do not have to worry about the small details. Although I am wondering now if it is a good idea to go with him as I concerned about the progress I’ve made so far.. However a lot can change until then so we’ll see closer to the time!
Haha I love that game! The most interesting thing in my life right now? I’ve decided to go home and make my famous lasagne this evening. I am beyond excited. How very sad? I still haven’t managed to workout this week despite my best efforts to convince myself that I need to I just can’t bring myself to it. I think I am tired, tired of functioning at the moment and just like you want to continue doing the bare minimum for now so I’m not going to force it for now. Next week though, back to it! No more moping about.
January 16, 2019 at 7:38 am #274925ShelbyvilleParticipantKkasxo,
Tbh I think I would be way more inclined to make contact if he were the type to reciprocate it, but he’s like…..I dunno…..a statue. He doesn’t talk about things, with anyone, he doesn’t get into emotion and if he makes a decision he just gets on with it. So it’s his personality I guess that is making No Contact a bit more feasible.
When I first communicated with you, you believed you were the happiest lady with your ex and couldn’t understand how you would go on without him. Now you realise there were deficiencies in your relationship and you weren’t fulfilled- woah!!!! Progress much?!!! Well done. You did want more and you still want more and effectively unless he is willing to do deep work on himself to be the partner who will fulfill your needs and you his, then maybe no contact is the best route just for now. I agree totally, a lot changes in a week- don’t worry about what the exact plan for the date is until closer the time.
Lasange? Yum! Although I had to switch to gluten free pasta a few years ago. I used to be all gluten free but reintroduced bread and a few other things and they seem to be fine- but I still can’t do regular pasta or pizza. Lucky for me pizza express do both! That will be a nice reward for you after your effort to make it! Well done!
January 16, 2019 at 10:58 am #274967KkasxoParticipantHaha I love that statue comment! Honestly, I can relate – my ex was very much like that at the start. Absolutely no sign of emotion, just rational mind on full blast. And yes it did make it a whole load easier to move on so you’re probably right in that sense!
Oo I’ve never tried gluten free pasta, does it taste any different? I’ve currently got the lasagne in the oven and I’m sitting down evaluation, over analysing again. Meh. He reached out AGAIN asking if he could take me out to eat. Oh how very poor of him. He could’ve at least come up with something more creative. Perhaps a location in which we could actually talk?! Seeing as that is what’s required right now! In any case I didn’t respond but I really want to now. I really just want to say GOD DAMN NOTHING YOU SAY OR DO IS GOING TO CHANGE THE FACT THAT YOU’VE HURT ME!!!!!
But at the same time I miss him terribly. I’m just pondering on the idea of do I really miss him as in him as a person or how he used to make me feel before all the hurt? It’s interesting.
I think we tend to run back to comfort and love encouraging environments, which I considered him to be before all of this. My rock. I just have to keep telling myself it isn’t that anymore/right now.
I often think about contacting him or agreeing to meet but really when I think deeply about it I actually haven’t got anything new to say to him, I’ve said everything that I needed to say already so it would be absolutely pointless. And I’m almost certain that he wouldn’t have much to say either. And even if he did it would just be his desperation talking, giving me promises that he will not be able to keep up to a few weeks down the line. So I continue, Day 9 of no communication.
January 16, 2019 at 11:47 am #274977ShelbyvilleParticipantKkasxo,
I genuinely don’t notice the difference in gluten free pasta at all. Slight difference in pizza alright but I’m used to it now. My Dad always scoffs at my gluten free choices but I made him a gluten free pizza last night & he didn’t notice! Lol!
I was thinking more about my situation today. It’s just nothing. I kind of feeling nothing at the moment. I can’t say I’ve accepted it, because if that were the case, I’d see why we didn’t work and understand I couldn’t be with someone like that etc. I don’t feel that way. But neither am I reaching out to retrieve it. I do believe I’m waiting for him! I wouldn’t want to be holding my breath while doing so! He could be in S.America by now for all I know!
Thats great that you see things more clearly in a way. I think you’re incredibly strong to withstand all the contact. However, would it be an idea to reply and say, I appreciate the effort you have made to communicate with me, but I would sincerely appreciate some space right now, with no contact with you. Thank you. Or something like that.
I think you’re getting there, slowly but surely, but by bit, you’re getting there Kkasxo! x
January 16, 2019 at 12:24 pm #274991KkasxoParticipantShelby,
It’s crazy how our minds fool us to believe something! My sister has been a vegan for the past 5 or so years and sometimes when she cooks for us I honestly think the food is delicious, but I wouldn’t actively go out of my way to cook myself a vegan meal! In fact, she’s been using those Quorn ‘chicken pieces’ in some of her meals and recently told me my mum had cooked, I assumed it was actual chicken and couldn’t tell the difference! It’s crazy!
You mentioned last week that you were feeling a bit distant, almost like you are an outsider to your situation standing there patiently watching but without any real feelings/emotion tied into it. Now you mention the feelings of nothing. I do believe this is just another stage of the process. I do believe that you have to an extent accepted your predicament, sometimes it’s hard to accept that you are now in acceptance with it so it is easier to say ‘i’m waiting on him’, or maybe you are, who knows? All that is evident is that you have made such amazing progress when just a few weeks ago you thought you wouldn’t! You give me such hope! Honestly, you give me hope that if I just continue this no contact, despite how i May feel right now the natural process that everyone told us about initially will just happen anyway and before you know it I’ll be at ‘nothing’ and accepting where I am.
The thing about the contact that he has made is that it is absolutely pointless. Not at one point did he say ‘Hey, just wondering if we could meet to speak? I think it’s really important that we do’ instead he has gone from complete desperation mode with the I miss you, to acts of kindness by sending flowers to my house, then sending me updates about failing his assessments for work (trying to remain some kind of normality) to being super organised about the weekend, to asking me out for a meal – as if that is in any way appropriate right now! He has not changed one bit. I think any normal human being whether in desperation mode or not would understand that the inevitable thing here is a completely honest, heartfelt, putting it out there kind of conversation. But not my ex no, he thinks he can fill my belly with good food and all will be well.
But I’ve always been the kind of person to either say things as they are outright or to throw in little suggestions here and there to try and lead people in the right direction of how i’d like to be treated and this time I refuse to do so, so for that reason I won’t text him back. He has been with me long enough and knows me waaaaay to well to know exactly what to do. This is on him. He needs to come to his own conclusions so i’m leaving him to it!
January 17, 2019 at 1:30 am #275077KkasxoParticipantMorning all,
I am feeling sad this morning. I spent the whole night tossing and turning with the weirdest dreams which included my ex of course. Upon waking up the sadness was very prominent and it didn’t help that on my way to work the radio station seemed to play all of my favourite sad songs! Halsey – without me, is just one of them at the moment! Seems to be a thing with Thursdays, with my therapy sessions, maybe Thursday’s are just sad days! I want to contact him. I really really do. But thankfully my rational mind is active and keeping me focused on refraining contact, it is winning at the moment although no doubt this could change shortly!
How are you all feeling this morning?
January 17, 2019 at 3:16 am #275083ShelbyvilleParticipantMorning Kkasxo,
I understand where you are coming from with the no contact. At the end of the day, I guess it is work he needs to do himself and not just continuing doing the same things he always does, therefore not changing deep down. Well done on refraining from contact. Maybe discuss with your therapist too and see what she thinks.
The morning sadness, that’s all part of it. Remember when I used to get it so bad. Now I feel it has switched more to evenings. But it too shall pass. A big thing for me with the no contact is that I don’t expect any contact from him whatsoever, so it is a little easier in that sense. I dreamt of my ex too last night. I dreamt we were back together, in his house, but in a different room and his brother had a second child at this point and they were visiting, but at all times in the dream my head was fuddled and I couldn’t clear the fog of where I was and who I was with. I was with him and he was saying the right things, but I couldn’t unfuzz my head to appreciate it. Weird!
Don’t talk to me about songs!!!! I’m not doing too bad with some of them, but I nearly puke when I hear George Ezra’s ‘Give me a minute to hold my girl’….also, I listen to Ann-Marie’s ‘Then’ when I’m mad about the situation!
Work is insanely busy today due to bad management so I have a super bad headache trying to get everything done. Oh and I developed a little twitch on my left eye lower lid since last Saturday and honestly, it’s driving me to distraction! Anyone ever hear of this?
You’re doing really well the past while and I think you are going into things a lot stronger that previous events such as your birthday or anniversary etc…
January 17, 2019 at 4:03 am #275085KkasxoParticipantShelby,
Yeah I do think the fact that you expect no contact from him makes it easier on you because you know whatever progress you’re making won’t just be tarnished at any given moment should he make contact. Now I guess everyone else would say why don’t you block him? 1. He will find a way to contact me anyway. 2. I am simply not ready. I find when it comes to him setting myself big goals such as no contact for a month terrify me and send me into complete panic – I can’t do it! But I could quite happily set myself little weekly goals of, just do the week and look here I am on week two and so far I’ve survived! So little goes a long way for me!
Hmm that is a strange dream indeed! It is probably all of the confusion in reality showing up in your dream, hence you couldn’t really feel the happiness you think you’d feel whilst with him and back together. I cant quite remember my dreams but all I know is it was bothering me and as a result I kept waking up!
Haha songs have that effect don’t they! I’m just glad that our song hasn’t come on the radio because I almost instantly go into a panic attack when I hear it and run in the other direction! Avoid at all cost! But at the moment my two faves are Halsey – without me and Kehlani – nights like this – both have very relatable lyrics.
I’ve had a twich in my eye before but it normally lasts a few days and then goes, I think it may be stress related?
Thank you for your kind words, I guess I rationally realise that I have survived the recent no contact and somehow manage to continue to do so, but I still feel extremely sad. More so today then on the other days so far, it’s like a weight sitting on my chest and I cant seem to shift it! I really feel like caving into contact but I must not!
January 17, 2019 at 9:46 am #275141ShelbyvilleParticipantKkasxo,
Dont worry about caving to contact- I caved every single time I needed to….remember? Now I’m not fighting it any more. I just don’t want to contact him. I don’t know why, fear, acceptance, whatever it is, this is where I am.
I think if you’re expending so much energy on fighting the urge to contact, maybe you’re not there yet. I don’t think you wake up one day after struggling with no contact and magically feel like hey I don’t want to contact him now. That’s just me anyway. I struggled and struggled and it was wearing me down. I contacted him a couple of times when I needed to, for whatever reason and now the need seems not so great. So don’t worry about what you do. Remember whatever happens, whatever action you take will not be wrong, it will be part of your path.
I hope the therapist helped this eve?
January 17, 2019 at 1:16 pm #275229KkasxoParticipantShelby,
What I would do to be where you are right now! So strong willed! The need for contact on my end is still quite strong and creeps up on me many times in a day however I’m grateful that I am able to rationally explain to myself that it simply will not make a difference right now.
I think more than anything I am just sad. Really really sad. My therapist actually asked me to represent my current relationships through some images of couples and it was interesting to see I picked all the photos that portrayed distance, dishonesty and betrayal. The truth I guess.
Some of my bits for the 1st of Feb have arrived this afternoon, I am pleased with them and feel at comfort that I am somewhat prepared or doing my best to make the memory as special as it possibly can be.
Other than that it’s just utter sadness..
The only hope I have is remembering you being at this stage only a few weeks ago! Where everyday you spoke of how sad you were and nothing at all was shifting it… and look at you now!
January 17, 2019 at 1:27 pm #275231ShelbyvilleParticipantKkasxo,
Genuinely two weeks ago or more I thought I would be sad forever. I don’t know what I am now. I feel very detached. A protective mechanism perhaps, or denial? I can’t be sure, but I’ll talk to my therapist on Monday and see how I get on.
If I could describe it better I would. It feels really weird. I just don’t feel……anything. I don’t feel sad as such, I don’t feel happy, I just….am. Tbh though, whatever it is, I welcome the reprieve.
Even if it’s only temporary, the one thing I’ve learned the past couple of weeks, is that I CAN go on living without him. Okay, it might not be a particularly exciting existence but before that, I honestly believed I’d die of a broken heart!
im really glad your bits and pieces are giving you some comfort and more strength. Well done and also well done on the therapy exercise…..I remember when you were completely apprehensive about going to therapy!!!
January 17, 2019 at 2:12 pm #275241KkasxoParticipantI get that… I think with heartbreak you can never be sure as there is a hell of a lot of ups and downs and that’s probably why you’re sounding a bit apprehensive BUT you are doing soooo much better! I literally recall you going through such a sad stage not too long ago.. it just was not shifting. You’re okay, you got through it, you’re alive and not even just in survival mode anymore. You’re making plans, exercising, speaking to friends! The progress is incredible! You must read back through your posts a little further along into your journey and you will be just as amazed honestly!
You give me hope!
My issue is I know that I can live without him. I just don’t fully want to, I say fully because before it would be a straight up I DO NOT WANT TO! Now my rational mind realised that not all that glitters is gold! There are major issues that he needs to work through and for that reason I don’t know if I want to continue living with him in my life. But the part that doesn’t want to live without him is definitely stuck in the past. In the person I knew, the person he was to me for those wonderful years together, everything prior to the summer I want that back. None of this.
Therapy at the moment is helping, I feel that i’m opening up a little more and really being raw with everything that’s going on in my life, maybe that’s why it’s starting to help!
I just feel like I sound like some extreme loser right now who’s been at this up and down journey for a stupid amount of time and no better off! I thought i’d be in a completely different place this far along if I’m honest, kinda kicking myself for that!
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