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  • #231819
    Shelbyville
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    Kkasxo,

    I know I’m only a month over it, but it honestly feels like I’m getting worse. Last night, I genuinely thought I can’t cope with this, I’m going to end up on medication in a psyche unit somewhere. Today I’m a little more rational, and I guess I need to explore why I feel that way, when many people suffer painful heartbreak but don’t feel as though the world is about to end. It feels like I’m too sensitive a person to deal with this. The last time I experienced a severe anxiety episode I fear I only really recovered because I felt we would get back together one day. I can’t use that crutch this time I guess.

    As for you, I think I know how you are feeling. I’ll explain what happened me, a few years ago after first break up, he contacted me two weeks after to meet up. You would have thought I’d be delighted, but I wasn’t. I had suffered too much of a trauma and my natural protective mechanism had kicked in. Fear I guess. I became sort of numb and felt like my rational brain had kicked in. Later it transpired that all my feelings came flowing back again, I was just processing. Always processing. Who knows what will happen for you over the next few weeks, but take each day as it comes. I know anita wrote to me in a previous response on this thread that the rational brain needs to just start working more consistently because during heartbreak it’s not so consistent. So maybe after 2 months, your rational side is gaining a little more ground in your conscious mind.

    I hope you make it out ok and heal. I have high hopes for you actually. And if you get there, you might tell me how you did it. x

    #231827
    Kkasxo
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    Shelby,

    Honestly feeling like the world is going to end is completely normal, at least I think so. That’s what I refer to as my ‘dark place’. I spiral completely into a different zone where nothing matters, it’s a very scary place to be and although not solely because of him he plays a major part in this and then the idea of running to him each time for his help. And I think the same goes for you, like you say the only thing that got you through last time is the idea of reconciliation with him. You need to get to a point where you realise he cannot save you. It’s a hard pill to swallow and will take time, I only got there recently and I hope you get there too. Until then, when having a worse moment remind yourself that that’s all it is, a moment and it’ll pass. I’m glad you’re feeling somewhat better this morning.

    The rational mind is most definitely clouded a lot of time when going through heart break. But I suppose that’s normal?

    Honestly more than anything I just am so tired of this whole ordeal now, feeling like absolute shit for so long and I want to heal. I want to heal so badly. And I’m afraid that he will only ruin that process rather than help.. this is what’s holding me back.

    Also what’s stuck with me is the comment from your therapist about had you been in your 20’s you would’ve given him more time. I’m in that boat and I realise that getting back with him will only get me back here in a few years time because he is the ‘never ready type’..

    #231829
    Shelbyville
    Participant

    Kkasxo,

    Thank you for saying that, because honestly it feels sometimes like I’m suffering worse than most normal people and that I am actually not physically or mentally able to deal with heartbreak and should never have risked it in the first place as I’m not strong like other people. It’s the most painful thing I’ve experienced and that’s saying something as I’ve already suffered loss in the past.

    I think it’s completely normal that your rational brain doesn’t operate on full throttle during a breakup, the book you’re reading does indeed make it all seem more like it makes sense. As for the comment by my therapist, he did indeed say if I was in my 20s I would have given him more time, but he suspected that even if I gave him 10 years, he wouldn’t have changed and I’ve have wasted a lot more time and more heartache. For me however, it never seemed to bother me to ‘waste time’ as I still feel he was my shot at happiness and that I have no interest, nor will I find anyone I have the same or better connection with. So there’s my difficulty too, I can’t see much ahead which would entice me to move on.

    You on the other hand are young, you strike me as kind, funny, smart, loving a determined! Even though I don’t know you, just what I’ve observed through communication. So I have a feeling that if you set your mind to it, you could eventually fall out of love with your ex and meet someone one day (if you wanted) who would love you beyond doubt.

    Thanks for your advice this morning.

    #231831
    Kkasxo
    Participant

    Shelby,

    No don’t worry, it is absolutely normal. Heartbreak is such an excruciatingly painful experience. You really do loose yourself in the process and so I think its quite normal that you feel like your world is about to end. In a sense it has, your world as you knew it. Its tough trying to find a new world for yourself and one where you are happy also. Especially if you’re not quite enjoying anything you do at the moment. I suppose the answer to that is what everyone else has been telling us, time? Annoying I know!

    Regarding time that’s the issue right there. Although on one hand I am worried about wasting time on someone who I wont have a future with, I was prepared to waste all the time in the world on him because I love him. I guess somewhere in the back of my mind I believe that there is only so much time that can pass before he is ready to progress and I have to be patient? (something I’m not very good at). I even got to a stage where I tried to convince myself that actually all the things I want don’t compare to having him by my side and therefore if not having all those things means having him, i’ll take it. That’s not healthy right? Even as I read back on it it doesn’t sound healthy..

    Thank you for your kind words! I wish I thought all those things about myself. Oh and there’s the thing about potentially falling out of love with him. But do I really want that?

    I’m going to make a pro’s and con’s list this morning to see where my head and heart is really at!

    #231833
    Shelbyville
    Participant

    Kkasxo,

    I wouldn’t mind if it genuinely did take time, but because I’m feeling worse, I’m getting scared of going back to a catatonic state or becoming a crazy cat lady that little children are afraid of! I joke, but not really!

    Ok, so here’s the psychology I was given. My ex couldn’t give me more because it was not his to give. Circumstances in his life and the way he has made his way through life thus far have created the human he is today. I too believed that one day he would see the light and realise he needs to move on or he will be alone and regret it. But genuinely the world is full of men, who never ever come to that realisation. He wasn’t able. He tried, but something inside him stopped him and would always stop him, be it his inability to let go of the apron strings of his own family, his aversion to letting anyone hurt him, or whatever, that’s WHO he is. Yes people can change, but it takes A LOT of work and they have to realise they NEED to and then WANT to. I thought I was nearly at a point where my ex had said he would work on it and figure out the answers but he must have got freaked or something and bailed at the last minute, deciding he was ‘better off’ (easier and less frightening imo) on his own.

    It takes work, usually with a professional to deconstruct behavioural patterns that hinder growth and fulfillment. I’ve been in therapy for quite some time now and I realise I have grown and gotten rid of some belief systems that were holding me back, but it took time and work. So my ex wasn’t willing to do that and in the end went so far as to go back on what he had earlier admitted and said that there was nothing actually wrong with him. I never thought there was anything ‘wrong’ with him, just things he needed to work on. That’s where the regret then steps in. Humans have remained at the top of the food chain for thousands of years because of our innate need to mate and create new life. It’s natural instinct. That comes out at some point in our life, if not now, later. So he may get to the end of his life and realise he didn’t live it fully. He may get to 50 and realise it and then perhaps go about seeking someone else to help him fulfill it, neither of which serves me right now.

    I floated the idea of not getting what I want with my ex and settling for what is on offer with my therapist. He said that I DID try and ‘settle for what was on offer’ for almost 2 years after re-uniting the second time. He feels, it’s unlikely the relationship could be restored but even if it could, he suspects it would ultimately lead to mild to moderate depression down the road for me as I would have not actively sought what I ultimately need.

     

    I don’t know if all that mumbo jumbo makes any sense, but I respect my therapist and his sensitivity and expertise and I just said I’d pass it on!

     

    #231837
    Kkasxo
    Participant

    Shelby,

    Yes it does feel like that sometimes. Not only like you’re not making any real progress but also actually feeling worse than you originally did. I’ve been through it, probably much worse than you because of the stupid light contact situation. BUT please continue reminding yourself that those are only moments. We have shitty moments, and then we have moments that are not so shitty.. not great but nonetheless ones where we are able to survive!

    Also, thank you for sharing that with me. That does provide a sensible insight into what is going on here. Quite frankly, my ex sounds a whole load like your ex in this aspect of things! Yesterday during our conversation he openly said that he is willing to try and do all the things I’ve wanted him to. But I know better, I know he is doing exactly what I was doing. Which is considering the idea that doing things out of his comfort zone is the lesser of two evils if it means that he has me by his side. Ultimately, that facade will soon disappear and the feelings of being rushed or put under pressure on his end will resurface and problems will arise again. Because I know he cannot pull through on this promise, it is just not in his nature. Like your therapist explained, that is not who he is and in the long run he’d be unhappy.. And I too would be unhappy because I yet again am having to settle for less than what I want.

    I always thought when I heard people say ‘we split up because we were on different life paths’ or ‘we wanted different things’ was so cliché. Like what?! If you love eachother and your relationship was great then surely you can work around the different life paths and wants to get to where you both want to be?! Until it happened to me, and I get it now. There are just some things we cannot force.

    Have you realised I’m all rational at the moment? It’s like I’ve shut my heart out completely in my thought process. I wonder how long this will last hehe.. Don’t be surprised if I come back later on crying my eyes out again!

    #231839
    Shelbyville
    Participant

    I do notice the rationale, but the cold light of day often does that to me. I feel not as horrendous at 3am but I definitely have not fully settled. My tummy is upset and I’m jittery.

    I’m not saying your ex is not capable of it, I think anyone is capable of anything, but they really have to want to, they have to go into it with their eyes open knowing the amount of work they have to do. It’s like smoking, it takes real commitment and some tough days, but worth it in the end.

    As for me, I’ve been thrown a curveball…on a day I’m already finding it tough. He sister just messaged me from abroad. Just a casual text, clearly not knowing anything or else, heard from the homefront that I’ve not been around lately and is sussing. I don’t know. My problem is i clicked on the message, so she can see it’s been read, darn, what do I do know. I kid you not when I say my ex is THE most private individual you’ll ever meet in your life. He didn’t tell anyone we split up the last time either. We were apart for months and people just figured it out themselves due to my lack of appearance.

    I’m rattled a bit now.

    #231841
    Kkasxo
    Participant

    Oh dear, just what you need right now isn’t it! I think you should respond and be just as casual about it however remain honest. She has probably sussed out that somethings not right and is therefore carefully approaching the situation to find out information from your end. I think you should play it cool but be absolutely honest IF she asks.

    Were you and his sister close?

    #231849
    Shelbyville
    Participant

    @Kkasxo,

     

    I used to think I got on really well with his sister, we had common ground. But then at a family event recently, I thought I saw another side to her and I wasn’t as sure. Anyway, I’m cautious, I don’t feel its my place or job to inform members of his family. It’s very awkward now. I’ll have to have a think about it.

    #231851
    Kkasxo
    Participant

    I think you’re right. It shouldn’t be your responsibility to break the news directly to them, but I also think it shouldn’t be your responsibility to cover up the tracks of his actions. He has made his bed, now he can lay in it with all the questions from everyone!

    Perhaps just find out what the reason for her message was?

    #231853
    Shelbyville
    Participant

    Kkasxo,

     

    She was just was thinking of me lately about something to do with the gym. The thing is, even if I told her, his family won’t ask questions. They know better. They will all just raise their eyebrows at each other in silence and no-one will address it because they know he’s not a sharer.

    I’ll leave it for now and see how things are later, may reply when the time difference ensures I won’t get another reply.

    Also, I hate hate hate that it gave me a little tug earlier that I’m not completely disconnected from his life, and that maybe not telling anyone is a good sign. That’s heart talking, not the rational brain I know. He could have had open heart surgery and that guy wouldn’t tell a soul.

     

    How are you doing this afternoon?

    S x

    #231867
    Kkasxo
    Participant

    Who knows, you may be right.. Maybe he hasn’t told anyone because his decision is not yet set in stone? I always feel like once everyone knows it kinda does it because if you was to ever reconcile there would be the whole ordeal of having to answer all the questions!

    I’m not doing particularly great. My heart is surfacing now a little.. I’m so lost between heart and mind. If im honest, my pros and cons list didn’t help at all because the pro’s list had maybe 3 things on it.. the cons on the other hand flowed onto the second page! But nonetheless, the most important thing on that list was the fact that I love him and quite frankly I think i’d be prepared to storm any weather as long as its by his side! Ridiculous, I know!!

    I’m going to have to give myself time on this one.. Although I do think that by the time that ‘time’ comes, he’ll be long gone!

    I’ve actually been invited to meet with some old work colleagues tonight and the pub we are going to is located two roads down from where he lives eeek! Because of this I originally said no, but then I thought if I’m not live my life hiding from him forever then I may aswell relocate to another country! I cant pull that off forever right? So I may just go..

    #231871
    Shelbyville
    Participant

    I would love to believe he doesn’t think it’s set in stone, but alas, that’s not the reason, he’s just private, he’ll never tell anyone and few months down the road someone might just casually mention me and he will shrug it off and won’t elaborate, that’s just him. He’s made a decision so he’ll stick to it.

    I do think you need time. He won’t be long gone, if he believes your the one for him….doesn’t that seem more correct to say. If he would be gone, then he’s not as committed as he thinks.

    You should go enjoy tonight as long as the alcohol and close proximity to him don’t cause any complications! 😉 At the end of the day, do you feel your best chance for a fulfilled and happy life is with this man. That’s what it comes down to I guess.

    Youre braver than I, Im barely managing dinner with my sisters tonight. Eek. But has to be done I guess.

    #231875
    Kkasxo
    Participant

    When you put it like that, no I don’t think my best chance at a fulfilled and happy life is with this man. Because ultimately how can I be fulfilled when I’m lacking everything I want and need which is progress? BUT I would still do it because I love him. And he loves me. And he does make me happy in other ways!

    Sounds an awful lot like settling right?

    You’re doing just fine! Glam up and enjoy your dinner! I’m only a message away if you need a pick me up 🙂

    #231881
    Shelbyville
    Participant

    Kkasxo,

    I would completely sacrifice too to be with him, if it would work out long term. But would you feel deep down it would always come to a fork in the road again because us humans tend to have our emotions seep out of us one way or another.

    Have you asked yourself what you want? In life, like really want ultimately? With this man? Two years ago I thought all I wanted was him as a partner but as time went on I loved him more and whatever desires I had deep down came to the fore.

    Do you just want progress or ultimately would you like a certain kind of life with this man? If so, can he give you that, or is he willing to give you that?

    I’ll do my best tonight, but I’ll def be back on the forum here, I just know it! Thanks for the support!

     

    S x

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