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  • #346738
    Shelbyville
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    Hi all,

    I’m okay, I’ve had the test, but am awaiting results, so still in self isolation. I see this thread has been very active whilst I’ve been away from it and I would love to be helpful but I find the collective anxiety, fear and upset in the world right now is weighing on me and I’m getting a little flooded and a little overwhelmed.

    I worry about my family and those close to me, I rarely watch the news but when I do I start to get panic attacks worrying about the poor older and more vulnerable people, I worry about the healthcare staff, I worry about the economy…and so it goes on. I can’t stop thinking about some particular circumstances like the 13 year old who died and their family and how they will grieve without the support for extended family and friends etc, anyway, I do not want to contribute to more anxiety on this thread, I’m just explaining why I’m finding it all overwhelming right now. The global pandemic is A LOT to come to terms with and then of course, it’s not as if other problems in our lives magically disappear.

    My general advice, if worth anything!, to all is to survive, whatever way we need to survive right now, just grit your teeth and believe you can do this. We can do this. It’s tough times, dark times for many, facing the loss of lives as you knew them, but lets just focus on surviving. My therapist has a favourite phrase “sometimes surviving is an achievement’, so do what we can. Walk outside every day where possible and try to focus our minds on things periodically throughout the day to help tackle some of the ruminating.

    I know how hard it is. I’m struggling myself. It’s been almost 11 months since my breakup and I know I’m not over it. Most of my day, especially at the moment due to lack of distraction, is spent thinking about my ex. I stop that line of thought each time I notice it, but nevertheless it’s there. And to be honest, I’m not gonna berate myself for it, i’m accepting who I am for the moment, because things are hard and tough enough without me beating myself up all the time for not being in a different phase or with a different perspective. Family dynamic is definitely a struggle at the moment and mental health struggles are certainly coming to the fore for some close to me, so I’m telling them too….we just got to survive and do what’s needed of us to save as many lives as we can until the day when we look at this in the rear view mirror.


    @kkasxo
    , keep well my friend – i know this can be such an unbelievably tough time with PTSD.

    Stay safe all and remember…’This too shall pass”….the pandemic will pass, the restrictions will pass, the heartbreak will pass, the hangovers will pass….it will all pass. x

    #346754
    Kkasxo
    Participant

    @shelbyville & others,

    Sorry sometimes it notifies me of your posts and other times it doesnā€™t! Ah Shelbs, honestly I feel your pain in what you write. I am right there with you. Although I have been so withdrawn from the world recently I want to cry but I canā€™t. I did get quite ā€˜drunkā€™ the other night though having had enough of this whole situation and managed to have a little cry session – great release!

    Like you, my mental health is defo taking a toll now with the isolation. Iā€™m completing week two, or is it three? I really canā€™t remember anymore. Nevertheless, I miss my family so much and wish I was stuck indoors with them. Quarantine life has definitely revealed to me that me & Mr A absolutely cannot share so much time together.
    I am counting down the days until this is all over. Until Iā€™m no longer worried for my family. Until I can see them and hug them again. And until Iā€™ve got my freedom back to do what is best for me and to enjoy life the best way I can.

    In the meantime we are just going to have to ride this out and support one another.

    I hope your test results come back soon and you will have some clarity. I am sending you lots and lots of lots of hugs, and love and light! Weā€™re going to be okay!

    #346780
    Shelbyville
    Participant

    Itā€™s definitely a struggle at the moment Kkasxo, but it could be worse…..and is for some people, so Iā€™m trying to find gratitude where I can. I really feel ya regarding your family. I miss mine so much, Iā€™m lucky to live with my Dad but I might aswell live alone right now as Iā€™m in self isolation and canā€™t expose him to any risk so we steer clear of each other. I miss hugs, especially with the kids. I didnā€™t realise how much I needed them. The littlest ones donā€™t understand and keep asking why I canā€™t come see them when we chat on FaceTime.

    I can definitely imagine how tense things can get in confined quarters with the same person day in day out. Everyone I know seems to be struggling with that right now, I think I would struggle with it too were I with my ex and we were quarantined together. I feel like this crisis is gonna make some things in our worlds clearer when we emerge, who knows.

    Right now Iā€™m trying to put up a little bit of an inflatable raft around myself at the moment so as not to let my empathy wash me out to sea, there is such collective despair, itā€™s hard not to…..feel.

    Today I heard from you though & youā€™re alive and surviving – so Iā€™m gonna put that down in my gratitude column for the day. Stay safe & hang in there x

    #346806
    Doseofreality
    Participant

    A post which might shake some of you out of your funk. Disclaimer: I’m not saying your heartbreak is something to be diminished. Anxiety is certainly not something to mock. However you need to open your eyes and see the bigger picture.

    I have survived far worse, I’m not here to share that story. Your woes are not any less either but I’m here to inspire you to come out of this as better humans, with more appreciation for the sanctity of life.

    You are gifted a life, this pandemic should awaken your soul, we are all in the same boat. The least we can do is inwardly assess our contribution to the world. What kind of humans are we? Who do we associate with? Is it people who make positive strides in life or suck our energy.

    Look at yourselves, really introspect deeply, some of you claim to be empaths. If you can’t help others at this time in some way because you feel overwhelmed then help yourselves at least.

    If we overcome this pandemic and get through to the other side, then do you want to be the exact same person?
    Will you have learnt anything at all or simply just survived and return back to your woes about being heartbroken? Will you continue to live half a life because of old wounds or are you going to wake up and reinvent yourself to be a better human and inspire the future generations by showing grit and determination to overcome and accept what life throws at you and excel.

    Your mind is a weapon. Exploit it correctly. Inspire progression, to be ruminating over an ex lover at this time is stupidity. A virus in itself. You are infecting and destroying your own happiness. So continue along this overthinking path and not learn anything from this pandemic . Or you can wake up and see the bigger picture; you are breathing, you are alive (someone is gasping for their last breath all alone without their loved ones) you have an opportunity to LIVE. If there ever was an opportunity for new beginnings and finding purpose to be happy it’s now. If you can’t see the happiness you have or my words don’t resonate with you to make yourself come out of this a better version, then all I can say is I really pity you.

    Wallowing in self pity will not serve you well. Self pity reinforces the belief that you are not in control. You are in FULL control of your happiness. Don’t just complain about your situation which you keep putting yourself in. Make different choices.

    Remain safe, remain focused and Peace out! It will be interesting to see how much impact my words had. This is not me being cruel, it’s a dose of reality which is needed for many of you I’m afraid.

    #346822
    Doseofreality
    Participant

    A post which might shake some of you out of your funk. Disclaimer: Iā€™m not saying your heartbreak is something to be diminished. Anxiety is certainly not something to mock. However you need to open your eyes and see the bigger picture.

    I have survived far worse, Iā€™m not here to share that story. Your woes are not any less either but Iā€™m here to inspire you to come out of this as better humans, with more appreciation for the sanctity of life.

    You are gifted a life, this pandemic should awaken your soul, we are all in the same boat. The least we can do is inwardly assess our contribution to the world. What kind of humans are we? Who do we associate with? Is it people who make positive strides in life or suck our energy.

    Look at yourselves, really introspect deeply, some of you claim to be empaths. If you canā€™t help others at this time in some way because you feel overwhelmed then help yourselves at least.

    If we overcome this pandemic and get through to the other side, then do you want to be the exact same person?
    Will you have learnt anything at all or simply just survived and return back to your woes about being heartbroken? Will you continue to live half a life because of old wounds or are you going to wake up and reinvent yourself to be a better human and inspire the future generations by showing grit and determination to overcome and accept what life throws at you and excel.

    Your mind is a weapon. Exploit it correctly. Inspire progression, to be ruminating over an ex lover at this time is stupidity. A virus in itself. You are infecting and destroying your own happiness. So continue along this overthinking path and not learn anything from this pandemic . Or you can wake up and see the bigger picture; you are breathing, you are alive (someone is gasping for their last breath all alone without their loved ones) you have an opportunity to LIVE. If there ever was an opportunity for new beginnings and finding purpose to be happy itā€™s now. If you canā€™t see the happiness you have or my words donā€™t resonate with you to make yourself come out of this a better version, then all I can say is I really pity you.

    Wallowing in self pity will not serve you well. Self pity reinforces the belief that you are not in control. You are in FULL control of your happiness. Donā€™t just complain about your situation which you keep putting yourself in. Make different choices.

    Remain safe, remain focused and Peace out! It will be interesting to see how much impact my words had. This is not me being cruel, itā€™s a dose of reality which is needed for many of you Iā€™m afraid.

    #346864
    Michelle
    Participant

    @Doseofreality. First, love the user name, nice.Ā  You won’t be surprised that I don’t disagree with much of what you say and I understand your intention to help this way.Ā  Ā It is absolutely fundamentally our lives to own and our choices are what defines us and our future. My take – it’s a balance – as is everything in life I’ve found. There’s a time to push and there’s a time to recoup. A time to take more risks and push yourself and times it’s ok to want support and reassurance.Ā  As you get older and hopefully wiser, you get better at being honest with yourself about what is the best response, the best choice for you. In my experience it’s usually the one that feels most uncomfortable.

    Helping people through situations that are painful to them – however much we may or may not consider their problems truly painful in the greater scheme of things – likewise requires a balance. A time to push & a time to support. It is pretty much useless to tell people to “snap out of it” if they are stuck in a downwards spiral but a healthy kick up the proverbial when you know they have enough strength to deal with it is way more useful than more sympathy. It’s the ability to understand enough about the person to be able to tell the difference and understand which approach is going to truly help that person – that’s what makes a good friend or therapist in my eyes.

    This forum likewise tries to provide both – so all inputs appreciated and voices like yours will be helpful. I hope you continue to contribute.

    #346880
    Doseofreality
    Participant

    Hello Michelle,

    I went on a few different forum topics to give a few threads, some enlightenment. Mainly the ones that seem to be stuck in a rut.

    It’s not my intention to cause offence. Few might go on the defense. Given the circumstances of the world right now, for many on this thread it is time for a PUSH. I agree one or two cases which are fairly recent need sympathy but even them cases can benefit from seeing the bigger picture and stop the downward spiral you described.

    I couldn’t agree more there is a need for balance between sympathy and dose of harsh reality. Too much sympathy makes our “victim” thoughts feel validated. It makes us repeat the same mistakes. Too less sympathy makes us feel alone and these feeds our insecurities and negative thoughts.

    This is a post based on the perspective of the WORLD SITUATION. It is an opportunity like I said to really come out as better people. Those who are self aware and willing to see beyond the superficial layers of this situation will grasp how now is the time to change. Those who don’t will simply go back to their old ways having learnt nothing. With no new sense of appreciation or understanding of the lessons this pandemic is meant to teach us about every single aspect of life.

    The situations we find ourselves in requires accepting responsibility. It requires drawing a line and making better choices and decisions.

    People always find themselves in situations as a result of their own ACTIONS. We form the wrong type of addictions. If an ex was abusive or an ex doesn’t want you – instead of accepting and removing oneself from the situation , we crawl back again towards the fire then wonder why we are unhappy, hurt or burnt again?

    Become addicted to making the world a better place, helping others. Become addicted to positive mentality. Become addicted to surrounding yourself with better people, making wiser CHOICES!

    Take this virus we all face as an analogy.
    You are taking precautions. Making sacrifices (not seeing your families etc, losing money etc) but you continue to stay inside despite your desperate desire to have freedom because you know it is for the greater good.

    This is how your mind should be rewired to think about life itself. So you learn to accept that shit happens, some things in life are not good for you. You fight it by not indulging in a negative train of thought. That’s protection from desire.

    Going through the same thoughts or ruminating on a situation which can not be changed or is no good for us is also parasitic in nature. You will continue to infect and spread it throughout your mind. What have you achieved – loss of life.

    I’m trying to encourage an awakening in people’s soul and minds. They spend years in therapy. Years mourning. Years wasting their life on negative energy. Not really moving. Just stationary. If this pandemic doesn’t alter their line of thought then I doubt anything will. They will spend their lives continually falling into the same habits, patterns and waste life. If the daily death we are seeing in front of our very own eyes doesn’t make you want to enjoy life going forward as a better, wiser human being. Then sadly this pandemic will have taught you nothing. Is the way you exist today the way a gift as precious as life, should be treated?

    #346902
    Sammy
    Participant

     


    @genie
    @michelle thank you for your continued support.

    @doseofreality last week if I had read your post I would have felt hard done by and aggrieved. I was so intoxicated by the booze and overwhelming emotions that the sensitivity in me would have made me go down the self pity route and accused you of lacking any sympathy. I would have denied the weight your words and refused to see the true intention behind it.

    Today I feel humbled. Last week I contemplated suicide over a heartbreak, I feel absolutely ashamed and your words have really spoken to me. You are right we are in the midst of scary situation which should make us see what is good and what isn’t. People are dying. It is time for gratitude and change in our choices and attitudes. If I was to die tomorrow would I be happy? No. If I can’t be out there like the key workers making a difference. Then the least I can do is work on myself to appreciate the life given and let go of what was. Thank you. Thank you. I don’t want to be ignorant and part of those who choose to remain the same after all this is over. My choice is to live life with a renewed sense of hope and make better life choices. In the grand scheme of it all; there are children who have died and parents who will continue to strive for their other children and family. There are children who are orphans and still prosper because they have gratitude. Something we have all lost in a world full of instant gratification. My ex leaving me is nothing in comparison. To wallow in pity and sadness and refuse to live life with the health I have is selfish. I can achieve happiness for myself by firstly being content with what I have right now. Then making better decisions in the future. Thank you.

    #346948
    Adelaide1
    Participant

    Hi all


    @genie
    Thanks so much for your continued support! You always make me feel good, even when I donā€™t particularly feel like Iā€™m making progress. Download an app called Netflix Party on your PC and you can tune in to Netflix at the same time and chat, though my sister and I have been doing it over video call the last few nights which works as well. Happy romcom watching!

     


    @michelle
    Solid advice as usual, thanks. Yes time is often the enemy of my anxious brain, but I know that distraction is only a band aid really so being forced to sit with these thoughts and work through them isnā€™t necessarily a bad thing, just feels uncomfortable. A few months ago I would have tried to deal with it by seeking a response from my ex but as Iā€™ve learned that just drives further anxiety. And I now value myself enough not to put myself through that. Glad to hear that you are back in the UK and finding things okay!

     


    @Shelbyville
    Waiting for a test result must be really anxiety-inducing! Glad to know Iā€™m not the only one having an annoying amount of thoughts about my ex at this time. Youā€™re right not to berate yourself over it and be gentle with yourself. Love the image of the inflatable raft you are trying to build in your mind. I agree, just have to focus on getting through day by day and exercising gratitude where we can while taking care not to get sucked into the hysteria of the news.

    @Kkkasxo nice to hear from you! Glad you are surviving despite all the challenges of quarantine. Youā€™re right, freedom and being reunited with our loved ones will feel so sweet when this is all over.

    @Doseofreality I know what youā€™re trying to do and appreciate the intention but personally your approach has little effect on me. Iā€™m self aware to know that itā€™s because a lot of my thoughts and ways I react to things are driven by a sense of shame, so someone else shaming me doesnā€™t have the motivational effect youā€™re hoping it does. Personally I am my own biggest critic so thereā€™s nothing anyone else could say that I havenā€™t told myself. Not being self pitying, just honest. Clearly helpful for some people though, as Sammy has articulated above. Like Michelle says itā€™s all a balance.

    Not really much to report from me. Just trying to navigate this strange reality we are in. I lived through some significant earthquakes 9-10 years ago and it feels somewhat easier than that in at least having power and water in the proceeding and not having to worry about further damage caused by Ā aftershocks, but on the other hand the global nature and ultimate invisibility of it all makes it hard I think. Interestingly my anxiety levels are lower than they are when everything in my life is actually fine which if I think about it is messed up, but on another level makes sense. I felt a lot more anxious when I first got into a relationship, for example, even when it was bringing a lot of joy and excitement Ā and I know itā€™s because Iā€™m afraid of being abandoned/alone more than anything else. Anyway, like others have said, just recognising that everyone has different responses and ways of dealing with the stress of this time and supporting each other will get us through! Take care all. x

    #346962
    Doseofreality
    Participant

    Adelaide I respect your response. However if you think the intention was to shame then the whole message hasn’t resonated correctly. Shame errodes the very part of us that believes we are capable of change.

    The message was the pandemic should be a time to awaken you to change. Everyone is capable of being better human beings me included. An individual should see the pandemic as a reset! Humans making better choices for themselves by breeding positive thoughts not ruminating over things you have no control over anymore. To find contentment you have to practice gratitude, break bad habits (I.e. shaming yourself, ruminating over the past or past mistakes), break the negative attitude, help others. Be content with what you have. We can all work on those to be better humans. The landscape if the world is about to change drastically. Life is too short. Live it happily. That is my point.

    #346966
    Doseofreality
    Participant

    Sammy, again if you felt ashamed by my words I apologise. However I’m glad you recognised ending your life os not the way forward as you have the power to change it. That is what you should work on. Change the negative virus that infects your mind – all those negative thoughts which make you feel unworthy and have a positive attitude to believing by making wiser choices and decisions you will create a better version of life for yourself. Again have gratitude for what you have- focus your thoughts on that. This will have a ripple effect on your anxiety and life thus you will make more conscious well thought life choices.

    #346968
    Adelaide1
    Participant

    Doseofreality, again appreciate your intention but donā€™t feel your blanket approach recognises the nuances of peopleā€™s experiences and circumstances. For example, as someone who fits the category of potentially being ā€˜not worth savingā€™ should the health system be overwhelmed with cases, due to assumptions about my quality of life and the value that people like me bring the world, I am rightly most focused on simply surviving- literally. I can still practise gratitude for what I have, try to focus on positive thoughts etc but the reality is life is more complex than that for many people, especially at the moment. Sure, some people may be able to see this situation as the ā€œresetā€ you describe but thatā€™s a privilege in itself.

    #346972
    Doseofreality
    Participant

    Adelaide, it is not a blanket approach nor do I wish force it upon anyone. We are all adults and have a choice. I’m giving a different perspective.

    I have faced severe trauma in life so am well aware of complexities one can face and how some people suffer more than others. I am assuming you have some pre existing condition or ailment thus your life is not valued or put first, you would not be chosen to be saved over others- I am in the exact same position. Your main focus is to survive. Rightly it should be. My main focus is to survive but if I don’t which is a high likelihood to leave an impact behind – encourage people to respect the gift of life. To invoke change in people’s attitudes. I’m trying to get people to understand the fleeting nature of life and be happy. So if they do survive this pandemic their life isnt spent with anxiety or sadness. It is spent with more self worth, contentment and a belief to be better/do better as some of us won’t get that chance. I’m being realistic about life. The positions we put ourselves in are a result of our own actions and negative trail of thoughts.

    I’m encouraging people to deal with life in a more positive way. If you do not wish to heed any of my advice that is your choice and you are 100% entitled to but it may resonate with someone else who will put forth the tips and hopefully lead a more content life. I wish you well and hope you find inner peace and happiness in whichever way you can. Please of anything do not shame yourself. That is not what my message is intending. Every moment on this earth should be considered a privilege.

    #346976
    Genie
    Participant

    Wow, so much I feel an information overload.


    @sammy
    you’re welcome chick. I’m glad you are in a better place and more stable with your thoughts. Keep going and you will make it out. I’m glad you feel inspired just be aware if you have a down day to talk to your friend or vent on this forum we are all here for you.


    @shelbyville
    you’re alive chick. So glad to hear from you and I hope your results are normal. I miss my family and the hugs from Jay. But keep remembering we are doing this for our loved ones and to stop the spread. Maybe we are the lucky ones, no one to throttle from being in our own company. Instead can focus on what positive things we will do after this is done with. Stay away from the news! It really got me spiralling. Thankfully this forum and Jay sorted me out. How’s things with your friend?


    @Michelle
    again so good to hear from you! I’m glad you have found it ok to acclimatise to being back. I’m glad isolation isn’t too challenging with your partner. If anything it gives me hope when you have the right person by your side it works. I hope you stay well and healthy.


    @kkasxo
    glad to hear you haven’t killed your partner yet hahaha and you released your emotions rather than let them consume you. Keep going.


    @adelaide
    you’re awesome chick so don’t you ever forget that. I see few messages have been exchanged with you and @doseofreality I just want to say reading you feel so much shame made me so sad. You are a wonderful person, please do not be so harsh on yourself. You have helped me so much with your great advice. Because of you I have something to look forward to with Jay, you encouraged me to communicate and gave me pointers when i needed. So you are awesome. I will definitely be downloading that and can not wait to watch a rom com. I can’t wait for my real moment with him still giddy as a teen.

    Just like I try to take on board some advice from everyone, id say try and not be completely dismissive, what I think @doseofreality is trying to say is don’t forget the goodness within you. You as I said above are so brave and good to others. You have a wonderful heart and strength.

    @doseofreality is saying after this if we survive we should change our outlook and this crisis is the perfect time to evaluate how we are going to make our lives more healthier or happier mentally so we can shake of our insecurities, issues etc and live life more happy than sad. I don’t think @doseofreality it is something that should happen overnight but maybe we should start to reflect also as we have been given time. So instead of using that time thinking about our idiot exes or other issues we should plot what we will do to make life more better should we survive?

    A lot of the tips mentioned I feel you are so incredible and already doing. You don’t feel the need to contact your ex anymore as you value yourself. Again this means you are moving forward to create a happier life for yourself. You already recognise the hard reality of things and what to do.

    We have control. I don’t think the message was to shame and you shouldn’t feel ashamed for your feelings. Everyone feels differently but I guess @doseofreality is saying…don’t let your sad feelings control your life.

    @doseofreality I think your intentions are good but your dose was a little too real and hard to swallow ? Because even though i like a reality check i thought at first what you was saying was rather a strong shock value kind of message without recognising every individual has their own complexities.Then I read your last message and I see you may be withholding your story and if that’s the case what you are doing is actually incredibly brave, nice and a reminder of the fact life is short and you are trying in your own way to reach out and encourage people to be happy because that’s the impression you want to leave behind to have helped people. Maybe if you shared your story it would resonate with more people?

    I do love your analogy of our minds being infected by negative thoughts (virus) and we need to fight it. The antidote being positive thoughts and better choices.

    I love you all. Xxx

    #347018
    Michelle
    Participant

    Hey all. Good to hear from everyone.

    Different perspectives are great, it’s how we all learn and look to grow out of our comfort zones,. Few thoughts from my perspective on this one;

    – A wake up call is all fine and good – but what really makes the difference is sticking with it and helping people use that initial motivation to translate it into action.

    – In my experience,Ā  few people take much real responsibility for their own lives. They are used to being led and influenced in some way or another, be it family, partners, media, history etc etc. It’s easier than thinking for themselves and therefore having ownership of both mistakes and successes.Ā  It takes effort to first understand this, let alone then work out what they actually want. And that’s all before they get into the real hard work of figuring out what choices are going to help make it happen. So yes, motivation is important but unless you follow through, it’ll fizzle out quickly.

    – Don’t expect giant leaps, small steps are how true change happens and sticks. Positive thoughts are great but only if paired up with action. For example, someone looking to improve their fear of confrontation can think about having the courage to speak up, imagine themselves saying their truth. But only when they actually do it, can they feel just how powerful it is. Thinking about it ahead of time and choosing a small situation to begin with increases the likelihood of it succeeding – and therefore encouraging that person to try something bigger/harder next time. Both are needed to actually be able to conquer the fear over time.

    – Absolutely, there are some people on this forum who are worrying about things that seem insignificant to us, magnified by the current crisis for sure.Ā  It can be easyĀ  to see and judge from our perspective that they really don’t matter in the grand scheme of things.Ā  Without being in those people’s shoes and trying to understand their fear, it is impossible to understand and I’m not a fan of judgement. Everyone makes their own choices – so long as they accept the consequences of those choices and they don’t impact others – it’s their choice.

    – Do I hope the pandemic helps people take a step back and think about their lives – absolutely. And if you can help a few see this – awesome. As Adelaide mentioned, whilst it works for some – there’s a big shame element in your message even if unintentional.Ā  If you really want to make a difference – try and stick with it and help people through to that next stage of being able to make better choices and improve their lives. In reality, I’ve found most people are prompted more on a personal level but I do think a few healthy changes will come out of this. I do expect it’s going to be tough on a lot of people for a long while and so the more of us there are able to support, encourage & push as needed, the better.

    @ DoseofReality. Am curious why you think you don’t have a high liklihood of survival. I’m going to assume health reasons. Regardless, I understand why that would prompt you to want to ensure your life has impact and it’s a good way to choose to respond – hopefully you will understand my thoughts are aimed at having maximum long-term impact, best as I’ve learnt how so far. Look forwards to hearing more from you.

    Cheers all.

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