Kimani,

Nice work, keep exploring! I tend to agree more with memm’s observations about archetypes momentarily arising based on the conditions (including neuro-atypical brain structures that make the conditions more enduring), but your curiosity and intention of “sorting out the mess” glows.

Also consider checking out Chogyam Trungpa’s work “Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism” which helps erode the force inside that clings to these archetypes as some enduring trait, or the words we write as some enduring truth. Instead, as the Buddha taught, we are constantly in flux, and the more fluid we become, the more wisdom and joy flows through us. That’s when we can become bridge builders, instead of drawing sorting circles. Does that make sense?

With warmth,
Matt

The greatest benefit I received from learning Myers/Briggs and the Eneagram systems was that it helped see my “robotic” tendencies and thereby gave me a map through which to notice the limitations my personality was placing on me.
I find that using these personality typing systems is a tremendous tool for helping us grow out of old patterns and learning to achieve new goals.
Without these systems, many people stay locked in an invisible prison of personality, unable to notice their own habitual (and often times destructive, if not just limiting) patterns.
They can be a tremendous tool for personal growth!
(sorry, i didn’t really respond to the OP here. apologies)

• This reply was modified 11 years, 3 months ago by David Bederman.

Hi, this is a very interesting discovery to me and I must say I am a little annoyed which I will explain, I was watching the movie Merlin (1998) and realised that Queen Mab fits the personality traits of someone with borderline (massive fear of abandonment by her religious followers) and also Narcissistic personality disorder and Machiavellianism. It kindof entered my mind that Queen Mab is a mythical creature and therefore could be an archetype, and what occured from then was some kindof of reverse logic I cant really explain it which made me come to the conclusion that people with BPD, NPD, ASPD etc must all have some archetypal drives in them. I’m entering university in January to study psychology but I have been doing my own research anyways, so what I’m trying to say here Kimani is that I came to the same conclusion as you did and then googled it and found this, which was very pleasing but at the same time I am a little annoyed you got there first, but I must say congratulations, and the fact that someone else has come to this conclusion too helps to re-affirm to myself that I am not going mad and obsessive over psychology. Thank you very much for this brilliant thread!

Interesting : )