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November 13, 2015 at 7:33 am #87335AnonymousGuest
Dear Jack:
I woke up at five am or so and my brain started percolating as to how I was going to therapeut you, ha ha… ha. As to your question if I achieved unconditional self acceptance- my answer: I know-know-know what self acceptance means. I heard it many times before, of course, decades ago, that is the kind of superficial knowing, the kind of knowing that made no difference in my life. Now I know it on a deeper level, the kind that is making a difference in my life: it is much, much more peaceful a place in between my ears and I can SEE better and better into me and outside me.
As far as the unbaked idea: you hit the nail on the head with what we do need to have if we were to go about it, to experiment: trust. I trust you and you trust me- do you? You know I am a real person? You do know I have your (and mine of course) well being in heart and mind, that I am on your side? Do you trust that I have something to give you, that what I write to you I will not write to you if I think it will be taken with a grain of salt just because it is online, not in physical presence?
There is that. And then, if we were to go about it, it will be a no BS therapy experiment. My position will be someone equal to you with more experience walking the path of healing and evolving. Not a therapist. Not superior to you in value or intelligence or anything but this one point: more experience walking the healing path.
Either one of us can stop at any time, with an explanation and honest input, of course. It must be completely honest although not ALL dirty laundry is requited to be aired; this is not Confession time. But everything that is shared must be real and true.
Always respect between us regardless of feelings rising, such as anger and objection and disagreement. Always ask before assuming: what did you mean by this? Think, for example: anita wants my best. This or that sounds like she is negatively criticizing me and it hurts, I will ask her what she meant by this, maybe I am missing something.
Always, of course, rely on your own thinking and evaluate what I write, I am no guru (who should never be followed blindly, no matter who what etc).
Thoughts… toward starting a what shall we call it thread?
anita
November 13, 2015 at 1:19 pm #87346jockParticipantA momentary lapse , lapse of sanity, lack of faith is what Jack had. Jack’s lack of self-belief, lack of confidence is really a lack of faith in God. If he trusted God more, stopped trying to control every little thing in his life, and just prayed more, he’d be fine. But his ego is the culprit. His ego is the one that leads him down the garden path, convincing him that life is a fight and he must battle all the way on his own.
Let go and let God, Anita.
Simple as that.
Praise the Lord!November 13, 2015 at 2:17 pm #87350jockParticipantAnita
I just realised that last post might annoy you . Sorry if it does.It was done for my own benefit, nothing to do with you.
I appreciate your offer of therapy but I’m going to pass this time. That might come across as ungrateful, even delusional but I’m just sticking to my gut instinct. You could very well go into professional practice Anita, in my opinion and a lot of others would agree with me. Is it not too late to do your Masters? I can appreciate the cost might be not worth it. Take care.November 13, 2015 at 3:14 pm #87352AnonymousGuestDear Pious Pete:
I read your post before last. Pious indeed. Jack: it is fine with me that you pass on my mostly unbaked offer. Really. It was going to be a lot of work for me and I would have attempted it only if you were very, very interested.
Now, about the post before last, I thought it was humorous, not? I mean Pete really took over? If so, you must have been distressed, Jack, when that happened. Jack… are you there?
anita
November 13, 2015 at 3:42 pm #87353AnonymousGuestJack:
I was going to start the experiment with the following question: what will you like to change in your life experience? What would you like to be different than what is now?
No, no, we are not doing the half baked idea. I respect your choice.
What will Jack like to be different? Now, it is just a question, not connected to any plan of things to come but my response, if you do choose to answer.
anita
November 13, 2015 at 4:27 pm #87354jockParticipantI’m in a self-accepting mood Anita. So nothing really bothers me today. My pain-body is far far away.
November 13, 2015 at 4:31 pm #87355AnonymousGuestMay your self accepting mood extend through the night and into the next day and the next… May you not be bothered. May your body give you no pain. May the pain vanish into the eternity of … and so forth.
anitaNovember 13, 2015 at 11:11 pm #87455GlendaParticipantLet go and let God,
Simple as that.
Praise the Lord!Oh I’m so glad I’m not the only Christian on here.
Alleluia Jack!
May God transform you into something precious!
Remember God is the potter, we are the clay.
Let him do his work through us!!
Oh I’m absolutely thrilled!November 14, 2015 at 7:53 am #87474AnonymousGuestPious Pete: you have a friend in Glenda. Indeed a transformation of sorts, since Pete is Jack.
Dear Jack: you don’t need to be transformed into something precious, you already are, is my position.
anita
November 16, 2015 at 2:22 pm #87683SaiishaParticipantJack – if I remember right, that pain body chapter (was it chapter 3?) was the longest in the book – Tolle had a lot to say about it 🙂 The way I understood it, it’s almost like an independent entity (separate from the pure non-self part of us) that has been built up over thousands of years of hurt and pain – from our own family, community, society, culture, country, race, religion – all those institutions that have written or unwritten rules and expectations; and some form of punishment(s) for not meeting them. And so the pain accumulates, and we carry it with us – and it rears its head whenever any of those unwritten events show up in our life in some form.
This is how I understood it – and experienced it.
November 16, 2015 at 3:18 pm #87685jockParticipantthanks saisha for your input here
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