HomeāForumsāRelationshipsāStruggling with a recent breakup… but it feels so much more complicated.
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November 22, 2018 at 12:52 pm #240409AnonymousGuest
Dear Madeline:
Will beĀ back to readĀ your recent post in about sixteen hours. I hope you feel better, try to relax into this Thanksgiving Day, have a nice walk outside perhaps (that often makes me feel better!)
anita
November 23, 2018 at 7:05 am #244825JeanParticipantThe other topic I started was about a thanksgiving that she was hosting and I was initially supposed to be a part of. It was bare bones in comparison to what it was going to be. Originally the plan was her mother, my parents, her and I, two of her cousins, and our friends. It was just the cousin who lives with her, her, her mother and 2 of our friends who felt obligated to go, considering they donāt like the way my ex has been behaving and they donāt like her cousin/roommate, and left earlier than they were supposed to. I saw some posts from there yesterday, not from my ex but from our friends, and it seemed like they were having some fun, and it made me sad. I talked to that friend this morning who said it went āfineā, but my ex and her cousin bickered a lot. I was sad all day yesterday and spent more time than I should wondering if they missed me at all. My friend said they did miss me, but I donāt know if my ex missed me yesterday like I missed her, and that drives me nuts. I know sheās putting on such a strong front to the world right now to make sure she doesnāt have to face these feelings. Or is she really just completely over me? Does she not miss me because sheās over me, or are the feelings so strong that she doesnāt want to break down and talk about them because it would hurt?
November 23, 2018 at 7:42 am #244831AnonymousGuestDear Jean/Madeline:
It is the day after Thanksgiving and I hope you will feel better soon!
I re-read some of your earlier posts and it occurred to me that I misunderstood.
You wrote in your original post and later: “the first red flag. ‘Nancy’ had lived with a married couple who were two of her best friends… secretly making other arrangements behind their back…Which rightfully pissed off the couple who moved out, and haven’t talked to her since. This is a pattern of her behavior.. She sees something wrong, but doesn’t work on it or say anything before its too lat3e, this has happened to 4 of her BEST friends in the past YEAR, including me.. She isolates, doesn’t goĀ out anymore… she must be depressed… she needs to decide when toĀ get help and see a professional. But I want to be there for her… I just have aĀ lot of guilt about feeling like it was my fault, although everyone I’ve talked to says it’s not my fault”.
My input: it is probably both your faults, not her alone. It is no wonder everyone you talk to says it is her fault because this is how you present her to others, just asĀ you did here. You wrote on this thread, as I quoted here, that she is the problem person, that sheĀ is the problem with all her best friends, including you, that she is depressed, that she needs professional help. So as I read your post I too reacted first with taking your word for it, that she is the one with the problem.
Now I think the two of you contributed tot he endingĀ of the relationship, you no less than she did. I mean, she may very well be depressed but you are and have been very anxious, by your own account. And it seems like you are isolated yourself.
I suggest that you relax best you can, take a long walk, or a hot bath, and ifĀ you want present the history of the relationship, orĀ any part of it, in an objective way,Ā not one that points the blameĀ to her.Ā After all,Ā you haven’t been fooling your own self, feeling guilty, as you stated.
Again, I am sure the troubles of the relationship is the doing of the twoĀ of you. If you wish, present the story objectively, when you are ready, if you are willing,Ā and I will reply further.
anita
November 23, 2018 at 8:06 am #244841JeanParticipantOh no no no, I am not trying to place blame on her in any way, I know full well that I had plenty to do to contribute to it. I have taken responsibility and sincerely apologized to her about what I know I did, and Iām working hard on the issues I had during the relationship. Iām not at all trying to bad mouth her to anyone, I donāt believe she is a bad person at all and know she doesnāt deserve it. Me contemplating if she is depressed is strictly me being concerned about her, and Iām not presenting her in any way to anyone else. Everyone who I have talked to knows her just as well or better than I have, and have come to their own conclusions on their own.
November 23, 2018 at 8:08 am #244849JeanParticipantAlso no one has said it was strictly her fault. Not even me. What people are telling me is that based on her behavior, this isnāt necessarily a reflection of me. not That itās not my fault at all, I havenāt heard that from anyone and Iām not looking to hear that from anyone. Itās a two way street and Iāve known that from the beginning
November 23, 2018 at 8:15 am #244855JeanParticipantI can present the story in a shorter more condensed version, wherein I also talk about my short comings. We were best friends, but when things started changing for me I let my anxiety get in the way and didnāt tell her for years. Around the time that she moved out, I got anxious again and let it get in the way of our relationship and we didnāt talk for awhile. When I finally told her I had feelings for her, I was again anxious, tried to figure things out and got scared, as did she. So we again didnāt talk. Then started dating, I would be anxious sometimes and act out in ways that were wrong based on my anxiety. But what we lacked was communication in the way of being open and honest about what was scaring us at the time and how we could get around it. I think thatās what ultimately led to the breakup. She and I both were scared to directly face the issues, and she was braver than I and called it off when it wasnāt working for her. I donāt resent her or that decision, it was strong of her. The only place Iām at now is worrying that I have all this guilt and regret at how things happened and I wish I could apologize over and over again for how things happened. Me saying that I know she is depressed and isolating is just me searching for some closure that I canāt get from her, it gives me a bit of an understanding why she wonāt talk to me or see me right now. Iām scared to lose the most important person in my life. I want to try again with her, i still love her and know now how to not make the same mistakes again. I feel like I failed her and would do anything if she let me back into her life.
November 23, 2018 at 8:24 am #244863JeanParticipantRealistically I know I hurt her. And she still may be healing. And thatās why I havenāt tried reaching out. because that would be unfair to her.
November 23, 2018 at 8:34 am #244867JeanParticipantThe flat out truth is I know I messed up. I was so scared to lose her that I ended up losing her.
November 23, 2018 at 12:20 pm #247797AnonymousGuestDear Jean:
Maybe you can apologize to her just once (not “over and over again”) for the ways you did “act out in ways that were wrong”. Be specific regarding those ways, not vague.
Next do what you can to lessen your anxiety and the resulting focus on her and what she is doing or not. Maybe quality psychotherapy if you can afford it and if it is available for you. If not, maybe a support group that meets in person weekly or so.
I wish you peace of mind and hope things will work out for you.
anita
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