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March 7, 2017 at 8:05 am #136553
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GuestDear Josh:
You wrote: ” we’d bicker, but NEVER fought.”
I am wondering what the bickering was about- how often, about what topics…? And what would the difference be, between bickering and fighting?
anita
March 7, 2017 at 8:39 am #136571Poppyxo
ParticipantHi Josh,
Good on you for being so open & honest.
I understand that the dates didn’t work out for you both – I do feel from what you’ve explained that the majority of the communication you’ve had with each other is via text, is this right? I am tempted to say things like would a face-to-face meet help, but I see she is now in a new relationship. I do feel like, from what you’ve explained that she hasn’t really given detailed reasons on why you split, ok she said she felt awkward etc but she never explained that for so long she felt like this and I feel that because of that you feel like it’s your fault that you almost didn’t pick up on these things. If someone isn’t communicating to you their needs, how can you meet them? If someone isn’t telling you how they truly feel, how could you possibly know, you are not a mind reader?In regards to her being in another relationship, I’d like to share my experience from a few years ago.. I went from relationship to relationship, pretty much merging 3 relationships over 10 years, with as little as a few weeks being single. I done this because I hoped that boyfriend B would fix me from the damage my relationship which boyfriend A caused, then I met boyfriend C hoping he would fix me from the damage both A & B caused (I say caused, but I mean the devastation from our relationship together, regardless of ‘blame’) so basically I was trying to ‘cover up’ my emotions, how I felt, the empty gap within me and the need to be loved after feeling unlovable for a long or short time. I thought finding somebody else would fill the gap – it has taken me a while to realise this is not the case, but I would like to think your ex may be doing this also. You were together for a significant period of time.
It’s hard really to almost give a solution to this as she has said she felt awkward etc, but I also wonder again, how these things were communicated to you? I’m unsure if a conversation/meet would be viable with her?
March 7, 2017 at 8:40 am #136573Josh
ParticipantVery like things. Plans on a particular evening maybe, or something. Honestly, not much cones to mind. Most disagreements we had wouldn’t last more than 5 minutes, and were always resolved pretty easily. And when i say wouldn’t “fight”, I mean there were never raised voices or heightened emotions when we’d dissagree on something. We’d discuss things maturely and cone to a compromise.
March 7, 2017 at 8:44 am #136575Josh
ParticipantVery litte things. Plans on a particular evening maybe, or something. Honestly, not much cones to mind. Most disagreements we had wouldn’t last more than 5 minutes, and were always resolved pretty easily. And when i say wouldn’t “fight”, I mean there were never raised voices or heightened emotions when we’d dissagree on something. We’d discuss things maturely and cone to a compromise.
March 7, 2017 at 8:50 am #136577Poppyxo
ParticipantDid you both communicate a lot about your thoughts and feelings?
You said that she said she wasn’t happy – did she discuss this with you prior to leaving?
March 7, 2017 at 8:55 am #136581Josh
Participant@Poppy Yes, texting was always our method of communication. She hates confrontation, and I’ve always known that, but honestly, I’ll always regret allowing our last conversations to be done knee text, and not face to face. And i really don’t believe a conversation with her is possible at this point. As I said, we shared custody of a dog for afew months after the breakup. The last contact we had was when i asked if she wanted to pick the dog up from a groomer she had promised she’d pick him up from. The text was entirely ignored.
And the awkwardness she was referring to was all felt went i was trying to get her back after she left the note. I was desperate and coming from a needy mindset, i really think ut pushed her away. Once I got the sense that she had one foot out of the door, and was on her way out, I was in full panic mode, and it was less about having a good time and flirting/attracting as much as it was me expressing how much I love her and thugs like that.
March 7, 2017 at 8:59 am #136583Josh
Participant@Poppy not at all. About a year And a half prior, she had left another note mentioning afew issues. It scared me and temporary changes were made and band aids were thrown over the issues. I really wish I had done the work I’ve done since I terms of reading relationship books
March 7, 2017 at 10:31 am #136607Anonymous
GuestDear Josh:
Back to my post to you and your answer: you wrote that you bickered (to bicker: to argue about petty and trivial matters).
Then you wrote: “Most disagreements we had wouldn’t last more than 5 minutes, and were always resolved pretty easily.”
That is “most (disagreements)”. What about some of the disagreements?
anita
March 7, 2017 at 10:37 am #136609Josh
Participant@Anita I’m sorry if I’m sounding abit confusing or glib, but i just hesitate to say all arguments, because it sounds so unrealistic, but i can’t think of any that got serious.
March 7, 2017 at 11:28 am #136623Anonymous
GuestDear Josh:
If you’d like to continue to look into this, figure out what happened best you can, we can continue with this examination (let me know if you want to do this; maybe it will help you letting her go?)
You wrote regarding you being surprised about her leaving you, that note she left: “Hindsight is 20-20, and the clues now are obvious”
What were those clues?
anita
March 7, 2017 at 11:56 am #136639Josh
Participant@anita I don’t know if it’s overwhelming feelings of loneliness or what, but I think it helps talking about it here. I have strong feelings of wanting to contact her, and I think talking my emotions through places like this helps.
The thugs I’ve read since the breakup has kind of opened my eyes to a whole new aspect of relationships. Things like how women communicate if they won’t verbally. Things essential to keeping long term relationships healthy and interesting (none of which i was doing) ect. Being the leader. The rock of that relationship. I was in the habit of letting her make the plans when I skulls have taken that lead. Growing up in the household I grew up in, I was under the impression that if only I didn’t verbally or physically abuse her, and was stable and supported her, I e’d pin the right track. I was wrong.
Its ironic now though. I never liked getting out too much, I’m abit of a homebody. But now, that’s all i can think about on weekends. “If only she were here, we could go do this or that”.
And
March 7, 2017 at 12:08 pm #136647Anonymous
GuestDear Josh:
Assuming you were trying to answer my question (?)- do you mean that the warning signs were what you later read in self help books, that you were not the leader in the relationship?
You mentioned her lack of communication, as I understand it. You wrote that she avoided confrontations. That is congruent with her not sharing with you her dissatisfaction and leaving a note behind, then texting without in-person communication (and the dreaded confrontations)-
you spent a lot of time with her family. I wonder if you noticed a dynamic there that could possibly explain her dread of being assertive and of confrontations?
* Will be away from the computer for a while.
anita
March 7, 2017 at 1:07 pm #136673Josh
Participant@Anita yes, after reading the books, there was were quite afew things that i could have done better in order to keep her interested in the relationship. There were red flags i missed in terms of non-verbal communication of her level of unhappiness with the relationship (less effort put forth in house work, spending more time with friends ect)
And honestly i never noticed any problems Roth communication in their family dynamic. Het mother is a little shy but definitely speaks het mind. That’s the only thing I can think of
March 7, 2017 at 3:22 pm #136679Poppyxo
ParticipantHi Josh,
Realisations are good, as they help you learn what may have gone wrong & what to work on for the future.
But you must’ve go into ‘victim’ mode and blame yourself. It was a two way relationship & sometimes the things she could’ve changed, may have changed your responses & reactions & vice versa. As humans we are triggered & act in ways that are determined by our upbringing/childhood & good & bad experiences along the way.
The fact is, nothing can be changed in the way that they played out, everything happens for a reason.
Would you say your situation now is more so how to heal from this situation as opposed too wanting her back?
March 7, 2017 at 3:49 pm #136681Josh
Participant@Poppyxo Ugh that’s such a loaded question. I can’t even begin to describe how much i want her back with every fiber in my being. I’m confused, lost and hopeless without her. If there was ANYTHING I could do, nothing would be off limits.
I’m realistic (as much as I can be in the emotional state I’m in at least). She’s ignored my last attempt at contact, she’s replaced the dog we’ve shared, and she’s got a new boyfriend. This doesn’t stop me from wanting her in the least, but it makes me realize that she’s in an entirely different place emotionally, and any attempt at reconciliation would only serve to push her away, and possibly further into this new guys arms. I’ve been telling myself that if i truly want her back, I’ve got to let her go. And mauve some time later down the road, we can reconnect. This is much easier said than done when there’s not a minute in a day where i don’t think about her, and her ghost still lingers ibn the house we shared together.
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