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June 19, 2018 at 11:58 am #213167SkyWalker18Participant
Hi all,
I am having a rough time at this period in my life. I have been suffering with low self-esteem, depression, and anxiety for a long time now. I am a 28 y/0 male and I am just now beginning to seek help from therapists for my past traumas and mental health. However one area that I am scared and confused to confront is my sexuality. It’s hard for me to talk about because I am so unsure and I am scared of being looked at wrong or judged. I am truly confused by my own thoughts and actions to the point its causing me to be depressed and anxious because of it.
As a man, I have been in relationships with women, and have had sexual experiences with women. However I have had a few drunk moments where I was taken advantage of by a close male friend and I’m not sure I really confronted how I feel about that. (No longer friends with this person)
Growing up being abused as a young child, my abuser constantly told me that I was a sissy, called me gay, made me dress in girls clothes, put lipstick on me, and called me a little girl. This abuse led me to be extremely socially awkward, and I still deal with it to this day. I didnt know how to interact, and would isolate myself constantly. However this also led me to questioning myself as a child if I was really gay or not. As a young child I didn’t know any better so this caused me so much pain. Then on top of it all, I would be bullied and ridiculed in school and called “gay” sometimes. I have had low self esteem about this for a long time. I came to believe I wasn’t masculine enough. My abuser stopped tormenting me around 9 years old, and the bullying in school kept up until about middle school.
Once puberty began for me, my low self esteem really caused me to have weird behavior in my teens. I liked girls, and wanted to date girls but I was introverted, shy, quiet, and would isolate myself from people. I used porn as a sexual outlet, but my low self esteem caused me to begin comparing myself against other guys and feeling inadequate against them. So I started to watch gay porn and I dont know why this began but I had serious self esteem issues with penis size. I dont watch the hardcore stuff (anal, male on male sex) but just other men masturbating. I dont find myself attracted to other men just other mens penises who are bigger than mines which is weird…, but I dont want to do anything with them sexually, nor do I want to be in a relationship with another male, and the thought of it turns me off.
However where it all gets crazy for me is, after high school I had a few relationships with other women, and dated women also. However one night I went out with a family friend who happens to be gay to a local bar. We hung out before and never had any issues but this night was different. He got extremely drunk and began telling me he had a crush on me, and had feeling for me but knows im straight and didnt want to ruin our friendship. I politely declined his advances and told him I appreciate the fact that he finds me attractive etc but I dont feel the same. He got the message at that point, but after getting back to his place I asked to use the bathroom before I went home. I was drunk but I never had a problem before. Once I got finished using the bathroom, I made sure he was ok and told him I was leaving. I remember calling an uber, and things get fuzzy from there and I remember bits and pieces. I remember him pressing up on me and groping me, etc. I then remember him reaching for my pants and I kept saying no. But he was persistent, and since I am passive agressive and meek I think I got tired of fighting him off. He began to perform oral on me, and after that experience I left quickly and didnt speak to him again.When I woke the next day I was just so tormented and kept thinking I must be gay because my penis was erect, and I allowed him to do that to me.
So now, I’m just lost because so many thoughts are going through my head. Could I be gay, bisexual? I just dont know it all doesn’t make sense to me.
Any inputs, thoughts, or just advice? Thanks
June 19, 2018 at 12:29 pm #213179AnonymousGuestDear SkyWalker18:
I am not a professional anything, not an expert on sexuality and sexual preference (gay, bisexual, etc.). As a non-expert, a non- diploma holder on the matter, it reads to me that you are a heterosexual (straight) man. There is nothing at all that you shared that leads me to think that you are not heterosexual.
It is very unfortunate that you were abused as a child and bullied in school. I wish those things didn’t happen to you. I do hope therapy will help you process these hurtful and scary experiences and that you gain clarity.
I need to be away from the computer for about fifteen hours. Maybe other members will respond to your thread before I am back. If you would like to post again, I will be glad to reply when I am back.
anita
June 19, 2018 at 12:38 pm #213185SkyWalker18ParticipantAnita, thanks for your quick reply. I keep trying to tell myself that I am straight also. But the incident I had and plus my porn viewing habit really left me questioning myself. I have cut the porn out, and am working on my self esteem issues, and stopping the comparison to other men and it seems to be helping. My social awkwardness and my tendencies to isolate myself however is causing me to have doubts because I cant find women I am interested in to date. I simply go to work, back home, rinse and repeat. I think the negative self talk I have with myself, and my past experiences with my abuser is really holding me back. Also I am having a hard time letting go of what my “friend” did to me. I tried just moving past it all but it seems keeps rearing its ugly head again and again. I don’t hate gay people, and I don’t think there is anything wrong with being gay. I never really got a chance to deal with it all, and I have no one to talk to or trust enough to talk to about it.
June 20, 2018 at 3:26 am #213225AnonymousGuestDear SkyWalker18:
I read your recent post and re-read your original post. You wrote that your thoughts and actions confuse you (“I am truly confused by my own thoughts and actions”). Let’s look at those thoughts and actions and try to understand them better, clear that confusion:
1. As a child younger than nine you were abused by a person who “constantly told me that I was a sissy, called me gay, made me dress in girls clothes… As a child I didn’t know any better”.
2. You were “bullied and ridiculed in school and called ‘gay’ sometimes”, that stopped sometime in middle school.
3. As a teen you liked girls but was shy, feeling inadequate, less than other guys. You “used porn as a sexual outlet”. You were very concerned at the time with your penis size, fearing it was inadequate, less than other guys’ and you watched naked men in videos paying attention to their penis size. It was not a turn on to you (“I don’t find myself attracted to other men… I don’t want to do anything with them sexually, nor do I want to be in a relationship with another male, and the thought of it turns me off”).
4. After high school, you “have been in relationships with women, and had sexual experiences with women”.
5. One night, after high school you went out with a family friend who was gay. The two of you were drunk at one point on. He got “extremely drunk” and told you he had a crush on you. You “politely declined his advances”. Next you went back to his place, called an uber and intended to leave. He then pressed his body to yours, groped you. You said No, he persisted and you “got tired of fighting him off”. He performed a sexual act on you ad as a result of that act you had an erection. After that you “left quickly and didn’t speak to him again”
Now, trying to understand these experiences:
#1, like you wrote, “As a child I didn’t know any better”. You had zero responsibility to what happened. Whatever he said to you, whatever he did to you was all about who he was and none about who you were. When he put girl’s clothing on you, it was not because you liked girl clothing but because he did. You were the victim of abuse, that is all you were.
#2 You were a victim of bullying. Sometimes peers called you “gay”. Why did they call you that- it may be that you have delicate facial features or that your voice was more high pitched than others. I don’t know. But what is clear to me from observations of people is that lots of men with delicate facial features and higher pitched voices are heterosexual and lots gay men have rough facial features and deep voices. Teenagers in school, once they have their target, will say anything that sounds offensive, anything that comes to their mind as randomly as a thought occurs. They don’t consider or research the truth of what they intend to say.
#3: a clear indication (and there cannot be a clearer indication) that you are not gay or bi sexual, that is, that you are not sexually attracted to men. The reason you watched those videos was, as I understand it to be, to find out if and by how much your penis is smaller than other men’s when at rest, I suppose, and when erect.
#4: more evidence that you are heterosexual.
#5: you were drunk, not at the best position, for anyone, to make thoughtful choices. The fact that your body responded favorably to a sexual stimulation by a man is not an indication of being gay. Your body part itself does not know who or what is stimulating it, it does not see, nor does it think (there are sayings on the matter..), it simply, automatically reacts.
Clearly, you didn’t want to hurt his feelings, this is why you declined politely. You are probably not in the habit of asserting yourself, so you resisted but didn’t push him away forcibly because you were tired, drunk and not in the habit of being assertive.
The fact that you are no longer friends with him is yet another indication that you are not gay.
I hope you read my post attentively and that you re-read it. I put much thought in it, trying to view these items objectively, that is, not with the intent to come to any one conclusion.
anita
June 21, 2018 at 2:37 pm #213519StealthInfosecProgrammerParticipantYou were sexually assaulted. Have you gotten any treatment or help with the PTSD associated with this? I think this is where the confusion part is coming in. Did you talk to anyone about this abuse/crimes that happened to you, like family, did you report these crimes? My heart is breaking for you. I think from the assault and the bullying, you’re dealing with the trauma still from this. Make no mistake, these were crimes committed against you. That was sexual assault, and the bullying was/is called, criminal harassment.
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June 22, 2018 at 2:29 am #213557AireneParticipantHello SkyWalker 18,
It’s so good that you posted here. My heart breaks for you.
I agree with Anita and StelthInfosec, and also wanted to share my thoughts as I read your initial post.
I, too, read that you are heterosexual. The experience with your former friend was an assault. I can see why you question your sexuality, but the things that have happened to you have been perpetrated upon you. The abuse you suffered – that was also something done to you by another person.
You describe being confused and unsure…I wonder if you have muted your feelings about your abuse, and this has made defining big things in your life like your sexuality harder for you to recognize.
I will write more, but need to head out to work. Just wanted to share my two cents’ and some support.
Airene
June 22, 2018 at 9:25 am #213637AireneParticipantHello again SkyWalker 18,
I wanted to add more to my response – it may or may not help.
Where you say “since I am passive agressive and meek I think I got tired of fighting him off. ” I wonder if you blame yourself for what happened. Try to be more forgiving of yourself and place the blame squarely where it belongs. Your “friend” took advantage of you.
As Anita points out, you were drunk, and not in a great position to be clear about boundaries or enforce them. Anita also breaks down things for you very objectively. I hope you heed what she has posted, and give it some thought.
I would also encourage you to find someone you can trust to talk to about the abuse you have endured and get in touch with your feelings regarding it. Sometimes people who have been abused learn to avoid any and all feelings about the abuse and the abuser because it’s so painful, and children especially, are taught to comply with people in authority. The understanding you gain about the feelings surrounding that will help make things clearer for you.
Airene
July 2, 2018 at 10:53 am #215125SkyWalker18ParticipantThank you all so much for your encouraging words. I am seeing a therapist and trying to work through my issues. I realize that I need not put myself intoxicated around people who do not respect my boundaries. I also am quitting watching online erotic video because that really does distort my sense of who I am. I cannot change the past, this I know. But I am looking forward to moving forward and a better future with a better sense of who I truly am. I know it wont be easy, but I am willing to do the work.
July 2, 2018 at 2:13 pm #215171AireneParticipantHello SkyWalker18,
I’m so glad you posted, and happy to hear you are seeing a therapist. You are on a great path, looking forward and willing to do what you need to so you can heal. Wishing you the best.
Airene
July 4, 2018 at 8:25 am #215391AnonymousGuestYou are welcome, SkyWalker18. I hope to read from you again as you do the work and move forward to a better future, wishing you well.
anita
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