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May 2, 2018 at 9:06 am #205241
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GuestDearĀ Dee:
IĀ readĀ your post with much interest. I would like toĀ understand better, therefore I ask: did your husband ever shown you any empathy, did he ever listen with interestĀ and concern to you?
Did anyone else, previous counselors, others?
anita
May 2, 2018 at 9:21 am #205245Dee
ParticipantHi Anita, thank you so much for responding. My husband can be very kind hearted, but heās a fixer. If he canāt give you an instant practical solution to a problem, he canāt and wonāt deal with it. He has an incredibly low tolerance for suffering too, his own or others; he loves me, but he literally cannot go there with me.
I have had much better results with counsellors, and at the time it helps, but you come to a point where you realise, this is a bottomless pit, I could be seeing someone every week for the rest of my life, and just going round and round in circles.
I am working really hard at my meditation practise, and occasionally I get little glimpses of what it would feel like to feel self compassion and kindness. But oh, how much I wish I just had one person I could look to, as a reference point for love and acceptance and compassion, just so I knew that even in my darkest moments, when the idea that Iām not worthy of life is most compelling, that it wasnāt true.
May 2, 2018 at 10:00 am #205253Anonymous
GuestDear Dee:
You wrote: “I wish I just had one person IĀ could look to, as a reference point for love and acceptance and compassion, just so I knew that even in myĀ darkest moments, whenĀ the idea thatĀ I’mĀ not worthy of life is most compelling, that itĀ wasn’tĀ true.”
Having readĀ your twoĀ posts, your very sensible thinking, profound understanding of people (for example, your understandingĀ of your husband as a fixer wasĀ enlightening to me, leading me to understand something better than I didĀ before), the calmness in your writing, leads me to think that someone is contributing something veryĀ good to your life,Ā someone other than you, that is.
You wrote: “I’m successfulĀ in business, I look good, I’m intelligent”- aren’t these things said to you by your husband, other people in your life? Ā If so, these things they say to youĀ are very helpful to you, encouraging, motivating you to keep atĀ it,Ā keep beingĀ successful, keep putting that intelligenceĀ into good use, keep taking careĀ of your physical appearance. These things make you feel good about yourself, don’t they?
You wrote: “everybody I know seems to treat me likeĀ their own personal life coach. They come toĀ meĀ with their fitness problems, their business questions… and t hey say (in effect) ‘… aren’tĀ you great, aren’t you cleaver, you’re so on top of everything'” – people are communicating toĀ you that you areĀ indeed very capable, inĀ so many areas. This communication helps your confidence in yourself andĀ promotesĀ your present and future success in all theseĀ areas.
On theĀ other hand, your experienceĀ in counseling is that it temporarily helps but then the experience becomes “a bottomless pit…just going aroundĀ in circles”- meaning long term it doesn’t help.
I suppose what you need is to sometimes talk about your sadness and despair, a bit, here and there?
I wonder if when you shared in the past,Ā with your husband, with friends you haveĀ helped,Ā if you went on and on about your sadness and despair and if so, if they noticed that going on and on is not helpful to you. What doĀ you think?
anita
May 2, 2018 at 10:02 am #205255nextsteps
ParticipantHi Dee,
I just wanted to reply quickly to say that you are not alone. Lots of people feel like you do and I think it is difficult to find good friends or people that actually care rather than just aquaintences. We care here at tiny bhudda and will try and help this week when you fee like this and in future times to. You are not alone and your life IS worth living.
I will write a more thought out response to this when I can- just wanted to reply to say I am thinking of you and will try to help where I can.
Best wishes xx
May 2, 2018 at 10:40 am #205259Dee
ParticipantThank you so much for your thoughtful response, Anita. I think, I feel like many people value me for my good qualities, what I bring to the table, but no one seems to want to see the darker more fragile side of me, and to me that’s the authentic part; the rest is just glitter, or at the very least, its as authentic. I don’t feel that I am acceptable just as I am, flaws and weaknesses and all.
I definitely never go on about my darker thoughts; it doesn’t take much for me shut down at all. And it takes a huge amount of courage for me to even make the tentative approach.
May 2, 2018 at 10:41 am #205261Dee
ParticipantThank you very much.
May 2, 2018 at 10:51 am #205269Anonymous
GuestDearĀ Dee:
You are welcome. I think your capable part is as authentic as your “darker more fragile” part oy you. Both are you and lots more. If there is no one in your life that allows you to express the darker more fragile part at all, that is, if you don’t have opportunities to express this part to others, in moderation and responsibly (that is in ways that people can handle, without threats of violence, for example), then it is not a good thing.
You are welcome to express any part of you right here, if it helps (if you try and find it helpful). I will read attentively and respond to you every time I am on the computer (has been daily for a few years now).
anita
May 4, 2018 at 7:15 am #205559nextsteps
ParticipantHello,
I said I was going to reply to this in more detail but can’t think of anything to add. I think Anita last commnt was really insightful and perhaps your husband isn’t the person to do this with as he just doesn’t get or want to get the darker more fragile side everyone has. He may have done at one point though?
Perhaps you could try journaling or writing your feelings in a blog so that they are being seen by others out there or at least just expressed in writing to yourself?
From my own experience, (although others have alot more than me) it is very rare to find someone who sees you so wholly ie in the ways we want to be seen or if they do it perhaps is the case at the start of a relationship but it’ can be harder as it goes on.
I hope you are doing okay today. š
May 4, 2018 at 2:49 pm #205633ally
ParticipantHi Dee,
I am so sorry you feel alone and like you have no one to relate to. I understand that feeling and its especially alienating when you have a dysfunctional family. Have you ever considered support groups? with the addiction in your family there are lots of support groups for the people affected by it, I think Alanon?. Also there are support groups for suicide survivors with afsp.org. I hope that these can be helpful for you. Feeling understood by people who have been through similar situations as you is incredibly healing.
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