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    Anonymous
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    DearĀ  Dee:

    IĀ  readĀ  your post with much interest. I would like toĀ  understand better, therefore I ask: did your husband ever shown you any empathy, did he ever listen with interestĀ  and concern to you?

    Did anyone else, previous counselors, others?

    anita

    #205245
    Dee
    Participant

    Hi Anita, thank you so much for responding. My husband can be very kind hearted, but he’s a fixer. If he can’t give you an instant practical solution to a problem, he can’t and won’t deal with it. He has an incredibly low tolerance for suffering too, his own or others; he loves me, but he literally cannot go there with me.

    I have had much better results with counsellors, and at the time it helps, but you come to a point where you realise, this is a bottomless pit, I could be seeing someone every week for the rest of my life, and just going round and round in circles.

    I am working really hard at my meditation practise, and occasionally I get little glimpses of what it would feel like to feel self compassion and kindness. But oh, how much I wish I just had one person I could look to, as a reference point for love and acceptance and compassion, just so I knew that even in my darkest moments, when the idea that I’m not worthy of life is most compelling, that it wasn’t true.

    #205253
    Anonymous
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    Dear Dee:

    You wrote: “I wish I just had one person IĀ  could look to, as a reference point for love and acceptance and compassion, just so I knew that even in myĀ  darkest moments, whenĀ  the idea thatĀ  I’mĀ  not worthy of life is most compelling, that itĀ  wasn’tĀ  true.”

    Having readĀ  your twoĀ  posts, your very sensible thinking, profound understanding of people (for example, your understandingĀ  of your husband as a fixer wasĀ  enlightening to me, leading me to understand something better than I didĀ  before), the calmness in your writing, leads me to think that someone is contributing something veryĀ  good to your life,Ā  someone other than you, that is.

    You wrote: “I’m successfulĀ  in business, I look good, I’m intelligent”- aren’t these things said to you by your husband, other people in your life? Ā  If so, these things they say to youĀ  are very helpful to you, encouraging, motivating you to keep atĀ  it,Ā  keep beingĀ  successful, keep putting that intelligenceĀ  into good use, keep taking careĀ  of your physical appearance. These things make you feel good about yourself, don’t they?

    You wrote: “everybody I know seems to treat me likeĀ  their own personal life coach. They come toĀ  meĀ  with their fitness problems, their business questions… and t hey say (in effect) ‘… aren’tĀ  you great, aren’t you cleaver, you’re so on top of everything'” – people are communicating toĀ  you that you areĀ  indeed very capable, inĀ  so many areas. This communication helps your confidence in yourself andĀ  promotesĀ  your present and future success in all theseĀ  areas.

    On theĀ  other hand, your experienceĀ  in counseling is that it temporarily helps but then the experience becomes “a bottomless pit…just going aroundĀ  in circles”- meaning long term it doesn’t help.

    I suppose what you need is to sometimes talk about your sadness and despair, a bit, here and there?

    I wonder if when you shared in the past,Ā  with your husband, with friends you haveĀ  helped,Ā  if you went on and on about your sadness and despair and if so, if they noticed that going on and on is not helpful to you. What doĀ  you think?

    anita

     

     

    #205255
    nextsteps
    Participant

    Hi Dee,

    I just wanted to reply quickly to say that you are not alone. Lots of people feel like you do and I think it is difficult to find good friends or people that actually care rather than just aquaintences. We care here at tiny bhudda and will try and help this week when you fee like this and in future times to. You are not alone and your life IS worth living.

    I will write a more thought out response to this when I can- just wanted to reply to say I am thinking of you and will try to help where I can.

     

    Best wishes xx

    #205259
    Dee
    Participant

    Thank you so much for your thoughtful response, Anita. I think, I feel like many people value me for my good qualities, what I bring to the table, but no one seems to want to see the darker more fragile side of me, and to me that’s the authentic part; the rest is just glitter, or at the very least, its as authentic. I don’t feel that I am acceptable just as I am, flaws and weaknesses and all.

    I definitely never go on about my darker thoughts; it doesn’t take much for me shut down at all. And it takes a huge amount of courage for me to even make the tentative approach.

    #205261
    Dee
    Participant

    Thank you very much.

    #205269
    Anonymous
    Guest

    DearĀ  Dee:

    You are welcome. I think your capable part is as authentic as your “darker more fragile” part oy you. Both are you and lots more. If there is no one in your life that allows you to express the darker more fragile part at all, that is, if you don’t have opportunities to express this part to others, in moderation and responsibly (that is in ways that people can handle, without threats of violence, for example), then it is not a good thing.

    You are welcome to express any part of you right here, if it helps (if you try and find it helpful). I will read attentively and respond to you every time I am on the computer (has been daily for a few years now).

    anita

    #205559
    nextsteps
    Participant

    Hello,

    I said I was going to reply to this in more detail but can’t think of anything to add. I think Anita last commnt was really insightful and perhaps your husband isn’t the person to do this with as he just doesn’t get or want to get the darker more fragile side everyone has. He may have done at one point though?

     

    Perhaps you could try journaling or writing your feelings in a blog so that they are being seen by others out there or at least just expressed in writing to yourself?

     

    From my own experience, (although others have alot more than me) it is very rare to find someone who sees you so wholly ie in the ways we want to be seen or if they do it perhaps is the case at the start of a relationship but it’ can be harder as it goes on.

     

    I hope you are doing okay today. šŸ™‚

    #205633
    ally
    Participant

    Hi Dee,

    I am so sorry you feel alone and like you have no one to relate to. I understand that feeling and its especially alienating when you have a dysfunctional family. Have you ever considered support groups? with the addiction in your family there are lots of support groups for the people affected by it, I think Alanon?. Also there are support groups for suicide survivors with afsp.org. I hope that these can be helpful for you. Feeling understood by people who have been through similar situations as you is incredibly healing.

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