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  • #159204
    PearceHawk
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    Natasha,

    When you read this be prepared to get what you deserve, an outpouring of love and compassion from the countless amazingly beautiful people on Tiny Buddha.

    There is so much going on here that I am not sure where to start so I will offer some of my thoughts that I hope you welcome. Also, give Noah all the love you have. It will be a priceless gift to him as he is to you.

    My thoughts now are just off the top of my head, from my heart. I shall get back to you later in detail as I need to digest all of what is hurting you with the hope that I can offer some useful words.

    Know that Carlos’ “illusion on love and men” is unique to Carlos, that I assure you that not all men are that way. In fact, it is those characteristics that you see in Carlos, the alcohol, the partying, the flirtations, that if they are not corrected, they will destroy a relationship thus shaping your negative opinion of men.

    When you said,  “he was the man that was rescuing me.” I am curious how one can place any value in a person who has a self-destructive life style and rescue you and create the ideal relationship that you want. It reminds me of the saying, “Trust me” said the spider to the fly. We all know how that turns out.

    When you reflected on what you said, “the only thing that came out of his mouth is “break up with me if you are so unhappy, I am fine, our relationship is fine.” This reads to me, go ahead. I don’t care. There are other people out there for me. Why do I say this? Because “A week ago we fought over a text message I found in his phone”

    One thing that I find that contributes to this demise is when you said, “And I have always accepted his terms, even now.” This is why this hurt and uncertainty continues, because you ” have always accepted his terms, even now.” Accepting a relationship with him is to willing to be second in his life because ” he was talking to another woman telling her how how hot and beautiful she was.”

    When you said, ” I slapped him, we have a horrible fight, we broke up, he told me a thousand times during the fight, “leave me coward, break up with me,” I see two things, although there are probably more. One being when you slapped him. I understand the anger and frustration taking over but resorting to violence crosses the line regardless of who initiated it. What Noah sees, Noah learns. The second thing that is obviously characteristic of a fractured relationship is him resorting to childish, immature name calling. I am wondering if this name calling is an expression of the alcohol.

    When you asked yourself, ” if I marry this guy, woud I be happy?” With responsibility comes accountability and unless he acknowledges that his self destructive and verbal abuse have no value whatsoever and that he needs to change, and with your willingness to accept his terms as you say, and look toward him to rescue you, you will not only be not happy, but Noah will more than likely learn to live this way as well. Noah DOES NOT DESERVE to be exposed to this way of life.

    Natasha there are SO many amazing, wonderful, beautiful things waiting for you and Noah. Those things are not found in a man who treats women like this. Leave this man, and I use that word loosely, and go for the things that you and Noah deserve, a life full of love, peace, and happiness. Buddha taught dharma. Embrace it.

    Pearce

     

     

    #159218
    Eliana
    Participant

    Hi Natasha,

    I read your post. I would like to reflect a little on it, if I could and get back to you perhaps tomorrow. I broke two toes today, and am in considerable pain, just getting back from ER, and am on Pain meds, so not thinking too clearly. Let me get back to you when my mind is fresh.

    #159234
    Simone
    Participant

    Dear Natasha,

    Thank you for sharing your experience and your troubles. From what you wrote it is clear that you are a strong young woman who loves and cares deeply for others.

    It is my hope that you consider the advice I have to offer.

    Even though you may feel sad and disheartened over the whole situation with Carlos, it may surprise you to find that the answer to all of this lies within yourself.

    I encourage you to fully embrace your motherhood journey. Remember, Noah will be a child only for so long. Cherish and fiercely protect the time that you have together. For now, you are Noah’s entire world.

    Do not despair or give up on love, redirect your focus towards yourself. Your story shows that you do not hesitate to love and sacrifice for others …. Can the same be said about the relationship you have with yourself?

    My advice is to put yourself first. Love and respect yourself enough to know that you ultimately deserve better. Never settle for less. If Carlos is not willing to put in the work to make your relationship functional and healthy, it may be time for you to weigh other options. There are always other options.

    A final note: Noah will learn from the examples you set for him. Choose to be with a man that reflects the values you want Noah to have.

    – S.

    #159386
    Natasha
    Participant

    Pearce, I know maybe here I’m just displaying Carlos defects, but you have to know that when it comes to Noah, he can be such a good man, actually in times a real dad, loving and caring, trust me, my main concern now is give stability to Noah, I can not and I dont want to go through my life changing partners and Noah growing up like that.

    When I said “he was the man that was rescuing me” you have to know his love at that time healed my heart, after Noah’s dad left me, I was broken, in a thousand pieces. Carlos gathered every single piece and his love made my heart almost new, I swear.

    What Carlos is today is not how he showed himself at the beginning, ometimes I think maybe he just got bored, it was such and adventure and maybe even a challenge to be with me, the adrenaline of having a secret relationship. Now we spent weekends together, and I dont know if maybe he got convinced that this “parent life” is not what he wants or needs, or both.

    Trust me, I regret slapping him, with my whole heart and all of my tears, I f could go back I would have said or did nothing, I swear. It was the worst decision, something the best reaction is no reaction at all. I an sure now. But it is done.

     

    Now we are not talking at all, he texted me on Tuesday that he loved me and missed me and I just texted back: me too.

    His cousin is my friend, she talked to him and she told me he is mad and resetful because of my response “me too”

    He said it was too cold, that he expected more, he said he made the effort to take initiative and start a conversation but my coldness killed it.

     

    So he is still on his holiday, havent heard a word from him. But I still have his car with me, we will have to talk on Sunday for it. I guess.

    #159390
    Natasha
    Participant

    Eliana, thank so much for taking time to read my post. 🙂

    #159392
    Natasha
    Participant

    Dear Simone,

    Thank you for recognizing such beautiful things in me through my experience.

     

    There are so many times I’ve heard that you must first take care of yourself, love yourself, and I am sure of that, it is true, but I can help to think on the person I am sharing my life with, either is Carlos or not. Probably it is also because I have no relationship with my mother or father, no brothers or sisters, I do not want to be pessimistic, but I have no one else, and afterall it is not what you have in life, or how much money you make, if you do not have who to share it with.

    Thank God I have Noah with me, and one thing I am sure of, I have to be happy in order to be a good mother for him, and he wants me happy for sure. Right now I feel calm, I am just waiting, as I said sometimes the best reaction is no reaction at all, and I will wait for Carlos to come back on Sunday and I will listen if he has something to say, things must change, a lot of things, we have to go back to basics, and have agreements that can make us both happy. If not, then we are over. For sure. I am not settling for less, not again.

    #159394
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Natasha:

    It reads to me that, as you understand it, “the adrenaline (rush)” died down for him. He may still love you, as he claims, but reads to me he got very comfortable with your attachment to him, believing, maybe, that no matter what, you will be with him, so he doesn’t have to try hard. Not as hard as he tried at the beginning.

    You wrote: “There are days when I feel like I am too demanding, or that I am just too intense or fierce, cause if I could I would spent every single minute of my life with him”- maybe you have been too demanding, maybe you tried to take “every single minute” of his life and it was unreasonable. I don’t know.

    I wish you had better communication with him directly, not through his cousin, that you were very clear about his state of mind regarding the relationship/ breakup with you (whatever the current status in his mind/ your mind). It would be good if there was a … meeting of the minds in this regard.

    anita

    #159396
    Natasha
    Participant

    Anita, yes, you are so right, that is actually what we need, but right now he is on his holiday, and probably he is distracted or not thinking of me that much.

    So there is zero communication at the moment. I will wait until Sunday, he will talk to me for his car, for sure, hopefully we can have a meaningful talk.

    And definitely, he got comfortable, he is now playing his macho role, so fresh and calm, he knows I love him with all my heart, I am really loving and affectionate person, besides telling him, I have always showed him my love and my loyalty. No doubt for him.

    #159432
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Natasha:

    Love and loyalty should be continuously appreciated, not be used as a license to take a person for granted and disrespect the loving and loyal person. When he does return from his trip, I hope you find a way to communicate clearly to him that your love and loyalty deserve respect.

    (After all, if he disrespects your love and loyalty for him, he doesn’t deserve those…)

    anita

    #159440
    Natasha
    Participant

    Thank you so much Anita, I promise to post after Sunday, everything will be fine, I am sure. 🙂

    #159448
    Anonymous
    Guest

    You are welcome, Natasha. I am looking forward to your next post.

    anita

    #159450
    Anonymous
    Guest

    * didn’t record correctly…

    #159488
    Eliana
    Participant

    Hi Natasha,

    I read your post, and felt it made me so sad. Please don’t marry this man Natasha. You are miserable with him now, he is disrespectful, only wants to see you on weekends, talks to other women on the internet. Marrying him, will only make things worse. If he has not grown or matured by now, only he can change, he has unresolved issues, most likely he will need a professional counselor to sort things out. He is a loose cannon. I think deep down you know this.

    You deserve better, for you and your little boy, to be a loving, stable relationship with a healthy and happy man.

    • This reply was modified 7 years, 9 months ago by Eliana.
    #159496
    Rinjaye
    Participant

    I am divorced.  At the heart of it, was that I was expected to be everything to someone and I never had the right to ask for anything back.  He’d get mad and refuse to talk to me for days over some petty thing; it got much worse after we were married.  I’m pretty strong willed about most things and in this relationship I thought I could handle everything without needing the support.  I did, for a while.  And eventually I ended up very resentful of him.  Then eventually I left.  And when I did, I felt relief and then guilt over being relieved, and then just happiness that I was living the way I wanted.  I had and have a good career and the interactions that I had with my coworkers and friends – the fact they were positive – made me realize how much negativity and strife were permeating my life.  They were changing me and in an awful way.  That realization was really what made me leave.

    Do you feel like he makes you a better person, not just that you love him? If not, there are people out there who will.  Trust me.  It will be an amazing and terrifying experience, but you deserve to have your needs met.  Be insistent on those, I know it is hard, but sacrificing yourself will only work for so long before it takes a huge toll on you and your mental health.  Try to make some connections with other people (meetup was really helpful to me) and see what other relationships look like, to give you a sense of what’s great versus not so great.

    Best wishes to you; I hope you find some peace and happiness.

    #170027
    Natasha
    Participant

    Hi everyone, so  I took my time to put every single bit of my energy, my mind and myself to my relationship in order to rebuild it and feel good about us.

     

    This 2 months have been a rollercoaster, we have had good times and bad times, yes, so Carlos wanted to make things better between us, and of course me too, I love him, and we decided to give it another chance. And yeah, what can I say it was more of the same, with the difference that he started going to therapy, I haven’t seen a lot of changes but I have to mention that this therapy thing is very recent so I guess I have to wait, it actually makes me happy because although our relantionship as a future or not, it will still be good for him.

    During our breakup, being apart, I talked to Carlos’ aunt, since he lost his mother, she kind of plays the “mother” role for him, well long story short, she told me that he wasn’t the man for me.

    As we got back I told him about this conversation and with the purpose to motivate him to change and become a better person even for his family to trust him and so he can show them what he is capable of, and his true and good colors. Because of course I believe in him.

    Well, now, he is upset with me, telling me that I am a “bad person” for telling him this things, “how could I have told him that his own fmily thinks bad things about him, that only a bad person could tell him that.” So now he is resentful. He says his heart cannot forgive me for telling him that. SERIOUSLY?!?!?!

    All I wanted was him to get motivated in order to be successful and prove everyone the kind of guy he is, which after any flaws I do think he is great, and I remember when I told him about that conversation, I told him, that is your family, that is all you have and don’t take this wrong what I am going to tell you this should make you stronger and wiser, jus to push you to work on yourself.

    I swear, my intentions were good, but this guy is resentful, and now that feeling is making him doubt about our relantionship, again.

    Yesterday, I told him I was worried about us, and he said me too, well, conversation went on, and he ended me telling me he loves me, but sometimes he feels like he cannot forgive not only this thing I mentioned about the family and me telling him, but also all the fights and bad things we have said to each other in the past two years we have been together, he said he no longer knows if we will someday get married, he is afraid for out future, etc..

    He is full of insecurities towards our relantionship, and I feel so sad about it, because, again, despite of everyhting that has happenned and we ave experienced, good or bad, I do love him and I do believe we can make it nad we can be happy.

    I know we hav the potential, but sometimes I feel like I am the only one who believes that. His insecurities are eating me up, they are destroying my heart and my mind.

    I asked him if he wanted some time alone, if he needed some days or weeks he could tell me, there is nohing wong with thata and that I would understand, he said he didnt knos, than he said no, I asked him if wanted to stop talking, since we don’t see each other that much, only on weekends, it would make much of a difference stop hanging out, but maybe I should stop texting and calling, but he said no, its fine, lets keep everthing the same, lets hope counseling helps us.

    As far as I know, counseling it is not magic, and it is not that fast or practical, it takes time, and the end the counselor will give us tools to handle our problems but it depends on us, but somehow I dont see that he has a positive attitude or just the energy to make things better between us.

    He has been under a huge stress with work, I understand, I sometimes I try to justify his behaviour on that, but still, I don’t know if this is the end.

    Tomorrow is the first time I will meet his counselor, as we expect to attend together in a few weeks, the counselor has been meeting with him first now me, and finally it will be together.

    I dont know what to do, everything he has said, his doubts, his lack of positivism and LOVE have hurt me.

    At the end he even said, I do love you and miss you sometimes, other times I dont, sometimes I feel like I want to see you, others not, that hurts.

    Not mention my son, Noah misses him, always, and asks for him, but he does not realize he could doubt about me if Noah didnt existed ok, but he is a part of me, and if I suffer, so does he, if we fight, Noah also gets that, and suffers.

    I cant keep up playing like that, as we got back I told him, this is it, we are making it work, I dont care how, but we are staying together, I love you, we are meant to be, and we will be a family, and he agreed, he was excited, of course, every reconciliation is like that, you get back only picturing the great things, lots of dreams and hope, but well it doesnt last much for him.

    Now I dont even know how to act, he is acting normal, like nothing is wrong, he said lets try till the end, till the last consequences, and if it doesnt work , then we would have done all that is within our reach, maybe I should feel some kind of hope about it, but I don’t. Sorry, there is too much sadness, doubt and uncertainty in heart.

     

     

     

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